Still got their fingernails? Still got their testicles? Still got their eyes? Shut up, then.
According to a new poll released Tuesday by The Washington Post and ABC News, a majority of Americans believe that torture of suspected terrorists can be justified — even in the wake of graphic revelations by a Senate Intelligence Committee report of exactly what such tactics look like.
Related: “More journalists have tried the experience of being waterboarded than terrorists were subjected to it.”
Looks like a majority of Americans can better imagine themselves as victims of a completely random terrorist attack than they can picture themselves as terrorist suspects in need of enhanced interrogation.
What a shock.
The percentage of people who think that the enhanced interrogation is unjustified just happens to be the similar to the percentage of people who think Obama is doing a good job as POTUS.
Just an observation.
To me “Enhanced Interrogation” isn’t the problem but transparency is.
All is fine while people are comfortable that their man or government in charge to dish out the “Enhanced Interrogation”, but people are usually not as keen on the idea when it’s not their people doing it.
At the moment I’m not at all comfortable with Obamba’s NSA spy apparatus and militarized police state having the idea that using Obamba’s National Defence Authorization Act to detain citizens without warrant or trail indefinitely is a legitimate use of law enforcement.
It might be fine to use these tactics on toothless murderous sand hillbilly’s 10,000 miles away, but when does it become an acceptable practice at home, and by whom?
Is waterboarding the best our intelligence agencies can do, what with all the new drugs that have been developed over the past fifty years?
How about holding a suspected terrorist in a small cell complete with a rottweiler? Or,in a pinch,a large Yorshire boar? (I know,I know, it wouldn’t work well with the many Quaker or Mormon terrorists, but I’m talking about terrorists of the “don’t mention their religion or they’ll kill you” school of terrorism.)
Waterboarding shows a real lack of imagination, these guys should read some books on how prisoners were treated by the Gestapo, Japanese, KGB,etc., waterboarding is child’s play.
Now, how about we start with the tried and true tiger torch applied to the testicles,and get back to me with the results.Or if we really want to be brutal,make ’em watch an endless loop of “The View” 24/7.
Y’know,if we keep pussyfooting around with these people,eventually we’re going to LOSE!
Will these UN scum suckers concem the murder of innocent kids by a bunch of savage monsters like this? I have my doupts since many terrorists supporting natiosn are in the United Nations and sit on the UN HUMAN RIGHTS COMMITY
Just a question: How many guys who get paid to torture people for the government do you want walking around in your country?
I think its a legit concern.
Is now when I’m supposed to mention the religion of peace?
The Phantom >
“I think its a legit concern”
Indeed.
As is the governments definition of “homegrown terrorist”. I don’t know about anyone else but I doubt half the SDA commenter’s would pass the Obamba short-list.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/23/fusion-centers-expand-criteria-identify-militia-members/
MIAC Report:
http://tinyurl.com/MIAC-Report-PDF
The UNHRC has responded:
“Senior officials from across the Organization echoed the Secretary-General’s comments, with UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, Zeid Ra’ad Al Hussein, also condemning “an utterly despicable and incomprehensibly vicious attack on defenseless children.”
“The Taliban have sunk to an all-time depth with this attack,” Mr. Zeid said. “Everyone must now unite to combat this type of savage extremism. No Government or intelligence agencies, no religious figures, no wealthy sponsors, no members of the general public can possibly justify continuing support for the Taliban, ISIL, Boko Haram, Al Qaida or any of these takfiri groups which appear to be competing to attain the highest level of human barbarity.”
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=49616#.VJH_T3vQMjw
It appears that, once again, Islamist nutjobs have gone to far, with blowback sure to follow; we will see
One of the demographics that believes torture is OK is people living in the Northeast (blue state central). Higher approval rates for enhanced interrogation / torture than Southerners, Midwesterners, and Western US.
Could it be because Boston, the former WTC towers, Pentagon, and Shanksville PA are all located in the Northeast?
“Now, how about we start with the tried and true tiger torch applied to the testicles,and get back to me with the results.”
This one is tricky. First you would have to find these alleged testicles. Second you would have to deal with the stench of burning goat juices and that is quite disgusting I imagine.
Phantom, I will be happy to do it for free. No need to pay me. As long as the taxpayers provide a pen full of starving pigs and a crane to lower said savage into the pen, I’ll be happy to contribute my time and learn how to operate the crane.
First do the Silence of the Lambs treatment to one that knows nothing but is particularly viscous and just make the rest watch. They will have no doubts about the who the Strong Horse is and will sing like canaries after that.
Any of the cbc,toronto star pretend journalists care to ask the sitzpinkler who leads the progressive liberal party of thieves what he thinks the root causes are ? Maybe ask if he/they would inflict a blackened pinky finger to prevent this if they had the opportunity.
well…If letting 140 children die will save a few terrorists from water boarding, well I guess that average leftist will be happy with this.
@ Knight 99 and Phantom. The poll question shown is quite telling with a vast majority in virtually every category saying torture is justified. Why you bring up the domestic issue when the question really pertains to terrorists abroad is puzzling. Even if it were to pertain to terrorists on US soil…a terrorist committing a terrorist act be they a US citizen or not has no protection would likely not see much sympathy from Americans – as the poll indicates. If one of my family members committed a terrorist act I could care less if they were tortured. I may offer to help depending on the circumstance.
http://waltherpragerandphilosophy1.blogspot.com/2014/12/powerful-massacres-and-weak-mourners.html
Sporty >
“..a terrorist committing a terrorist act be they a US citizen or not has no protection”
The point I’m trying to make, but you’re not picking up is that government administrations aka: The Obamba administration define what a terrorist is at will and by the stroke of an Executive Order.
You may not care about your family members much, but you may very well find yourself labelled a “Terrorist” by Obamba simply for disagreeing with his policies – Think Tea Party/ IRS.
Be very careful of the powers you give your leftist leaders.
As far as the bastards killing the children, welcome to the real world. Have you not noticed that the more we meddle in these foreign shitholes, the worse it seems to get?
And then we import it wholesale, open borders and mass Third World immigration. Not very smart really, yet it does appear to give the excuse to exercise a militarized police surveillance state in our own backyards “for our own protection”.
Hey why don’t we all turn our guns in to Obamba while we are at it?
It’s simply hilarious that so called conservatives advocate following this totalitarian freak on his global bombing & ass kissing dictator campaigns, bring in Islamic refugees by the millions after leveling their homelands, and simultaneously allow his police state to slowly cage them in.
Nice.
Sporty said: “Why you bring up the domestic issue when the question really pertains to terrorists abroad is puzzling.”
Because what starts out as a one time thing, used only in dire emergencies on guys who kill 140 kids for giggles, will become a permanent fixture used on shop lifters and jay walkers. It gets enshrined in law, with a budget and middle management and secretaries and a f-cking retirement fund. And a -union-. And it will happen -fast-.
How fast did y’all get used to being frisked at the airport, hmm?
Don’t be so excited to enshrine torture and “enhanced interrogation” as a government prerogative. Its a bad idea and all the wrong people are pushing it.
“Don’t be so excited to enshrine torture and ‘enhanced interrogation’ as a government prerogative. Its a bad idea and all the wrong people are pushing it.”
Well said.
JJM, I think its an argument that doesn’t get made much, because deep down nobody thinks it can happen here. We’re all deluded into thinking that government really means to do the best for all of us.
Somebody might want to ask Ken Kulak how he feels about governments having the power to do torture on detainees. His opinion would be enlightening.
I’ll tell you frankly, these Mooselimb terrorist sh1tbirds don’t frighten me even a tiny little bit. They are worthless, toothless hillbillies that Westerners are taking down with both hands and one foot hogtied behind our backs by the Lefties.
You want to know what does scare me? Our government. No logic, no morals, no restraint, no SENSE, and no real limitations on what they can do to you if they want to. We want to give those @ssh0les the power to torture detainees?
No. I think we really, really don’t.
Well Phantom, one of my grandfather’s sisters was able to visit the oldest brother in the Cheka prison in the city of Orenburg in 1929. She saw skin hanging from his legs, the result of beatings he received. Later the Cheka would not allow visits. This great uncle survived his first five year term working on the White Sea Canal. He did not survive his second five year term, but died in 1942 collapsed in the snow from heart failure while the prisoners were going to their timber cutting day. The guard dogs tore at him until other prisoners told the guards that he was sick.
Before 1917 no one thought a government would treat people like that. Governments change, and governments will change here. Suzuki wants to jail AGW deniers, and Trudeau admires the Chinese Communist government. It is not much of a stretch to think it could happen here.
Well Phantom, one of my grandfather’s sisters was able to visit the oldest brother in the Cheka prison in the city of Orenburg in 1929. She saw skin hanging from his legs, the result of beatings he received. Later the Cheka would not allow visits. This great uncle survived his first five year term working on the White Sea Canal. He did not survive his second five year term, but died in 1942 collapsed in the snow from heart failure while the prisoners were going to their timber cutting day. The guard dogs tore at him until other prisoners told the guards that he was sick.
Before 1917 no one thought a government would treat people like that. Governments change, and governments will change here. Suzuki wants to jail AGW deniers, and Trudeau admires the Chinese Communist government. It is not much of a stretch to think it could happen here.
The communists were far worst then the nazis when it comes down to mass murder and especialy the Chi-Coms