From “The case for doing nothing about the Islamic State”, by Rick Salutin:
So imagine being a villager. From high overhead, others are raining Hellfires, literally, on you. You can’t see them but you know they don’t look like you or speak your language, and care only in the most abstract way. Then along come the Islamic State thugs. They look and talk like you. They’re brutal but they create some administrative order…
It’s hard to imagine a more morally bankrupt way of putting it.
“Obamba & Hillary have never done anything right. I boggles the mind that so called conservative people think they have it right “this time”.”
Bombing ISIS helps your pal ASSad. So what are you bitching about this time?
Again, go back to the Toten’s article I have linked above. It was your pal ASSad who has helped radicalize his opposition so useful idiots like you would see him as a savior and not as the cause of the problem.
Now, I am saying let ASSad and ISIS kill each other and you are complaining that Ogabe wants to help your pal. The west now is doing exactly what your pal ASSad (and his puppetmaster Putin) wants them to do. You should be happy about it.
Could you perhaps stop contradicting yourself?
Reposted, looks like the name of Knight’s friend got caught in the filter.
[quote]Obamba & Hillary have never done anything right. I boggles the mind that so called conservative people think they have it right “this time”.[/quote]
Bombing ISIS helps your pal A$$ad. So what are you bitching about this time?
Again go back to the Toten’s article I have linked above. It was your pal A$$ad who has helped radicalize his opposition so useful idiots like you would see him as a savior and not as the cause of the problem. Now I am saying let A$$ad and ISIS kill each other and you are complaining that Ogabe wants to help your pal. The west now is doing exactly what your pal A$$ad (and his puppet master{Putin) wants them to do. You should be happy about it.
Could you perhaps stop contradicting yourself?
“The Soviet Union did itself in,”
Funny thing, it did not do itself in when the castrati were running the white house. Coincidence I am sure.
” America’s MIC Imperialism had little or nothing to do with it.”
Nope exactly the opposite, it was the great savior of the world; the American, imperialism/colonialism and their faithful companion the great military industrial complex that rescued the world (at least temporarily) from communism and the Siberian hordes. Their work is never done, long may they live and long may they give stomach ulcers to pathetic isolationist libertarians and other assorted useful idiots.
Another great headline!
My “I wish I said that” file is loaded with your headlines.
You mean the national socialists.
Hey, Obama wants to cut the A10.
EBD is right to call it morally bankrupt, but Salutin has a point, which I will get to at the end. Knight at 10:54 is right; anything dreamed up by Obama is virtually guaranteed to fail; his track record is one of unmitigated failure in his entire foreign policy, not just the ME. This latest venture will not succeed either, it’s simply another variation of the Brier Patch strategy that Al Qaeda and its affiliates have been following successfully for the past 20 years.
And it goes without saying that ISIS and its predecessors may be the most disgusting and recidivist movement we have seen in centuries. The only significant difference between these swine and the mass murders of the 1930s and ’40s is their current lack of capacity to commit them on a far larger industrial scale the way the facists and communists did starting about 75 years ago. Unlike the earlier ones, these religious fanatics seem to really like killing, perhaps the first such movement of its kind since the Thuggees were wiped out in India in the 19th century. And they’re bringing back institutionalized slavery, an abomination mostly wiped out in the 19th century as well.
That said, Salutin’s column really points out the hollowness and vacuous leadership of the west. They, and we, don’t have the guts to do what is really needed, specifically to go in and exterminate ISIS right down to their pet gerbils and the lice in their stinking sandals.
Given such lack of resolve, there are no good choices here. And in that regard, I agree with Colonialista as well as Knight.
CGH >
Fairly said.
The reality is that currently there is no going in and exterminating anything down to it’s stinking sandals. Soldiers get three bullets and can fire them when fired upon, after getting HQ legal approval to do so.
In other words, it’s a waste of time and resources to even bother.
What needs to be done with our resources is cleaning up our own houses of the Liberal vermin that have left our borders open and start putting resources into educating the low information voters that plague our societies, and blogosphere.
“Taking the fight to the enemy” obviously hasn’t worked out so well since 911 for our own security. Leaving our borders open hasn’t helped much either.
I wonder when ISIS will get the idea that running into a military checkpoint with a suicide vest is’t as easy as catching the ebola virus and walking across the border for a few Mcmuffins and a bus ride downtown.
..and recruit the blacks as ‘storm troopers’..”
That is great comedy, really..
Knight, you are right that “taking the fight to the enemy hasn’t worked out so well”. This has been a feature of the west since at least 2003, and one might even extend that view to 1991. In general, I view this as a result of weak, flabby leadership (yes, even Bush in 1992 when he could have dealt with Iraq under far easier circumstances than 12 years later).
So I agree with you about “waste of time and resources”.
That said, this is the purest form of evil that has emerged in the past century, as I noted in my previous. Not to oppose it as the Dippers propose is to condone it. To have others do all the dirty work as the Libs propose is simply pusillanimous. And what the government has proposed under the leadership of a flaccid United States is simply inadequate.
Interesting. I posted a comment on the article. It was critical of Mr. Salutin, but neither rude nor scatalogical. It was removed a couple of hours later. I wonder how many other comments have been sent down the memory hole.
cgh >
Agreed.
“That said, this is the purest form of evil that has emerged in the past century,” – ugh
Also true.
The issue here goes back to my original comments on this post. These guys weren’t born in test tubes yesterday, nor did they build all those modern armaments and military equipment they flaunt today themselves. They didn’t even clear the way for their rise in the Middle East and give themselves the sanctuaries of places like Iraq and Libya.
Yet the people who did all of these wonderful things to aid the rise of ISIS/ ISIL conveniently leave our borders open and fight to disarm us.
The same people who demand of us our money, so that they can afford to what? Go take care of ISIS.
ISIS is a problem, but at the moment it’s not our biggest problem.
What you said.
“…….Mulcair is just exhibiting the same anti war for whatever reason attitude that socialists have exhibited since the run up to WWI…….”
Same as Duranty lying to western media. A combination of useful idiots and Soviet moles/agents.
Socialists promoted pacifist policies to degrade western military capabilities.
Remember the desperate, froth at the mouth opposition to the US air-launch cruise missile…..something that could be airborne, unlaunched, but able to be recalled, on mere warning…invulnerable to a Soviet first strike….that would take about 3 hours after airbourne launch to arrive?
The air-launch cruise missile was useless as a first strike weapon but made a Soviet first strike suicide.
The air-launch cruise missile was stabilizing, not destabilizing, but the socialists went ballistic….but were strangely silent with the Soviet deployment of the intermediate range missiles in Europe, a destabilizing development.