The time has come to position our forces along the Alaskan border.
The Canadian government demanded an answer immediately on the long-delayed Keystone XL pipeline. It has now received a reply from the United States government that amounts to: Maybe next year.
The project is now paralyzed for an indefinite period, with the U.S. administration Friday announcing another delay in a process already beset by political and legal challenges.
The announcement made it clear that Canadian pipeline backers will not get the answer they wanted in time for the summer construction season, pushing completion of the project until 2015 — at best.
Related: ‘Bought the president’: Does lib billionaire Tom Steyer hold all the Keystone cards?
China, living in China.
(Men Without Hats)
The Americans have their national interests.
And we have ours.
Time to take our oil trade elsewhere.
I agree except I say time to give priority to our own national interests.
Off to the east coast and sell to europe.F-ck the west-coast hippies / natives where work is a 4 letter word.
America has become such a joke over the last 5 years. Billion dollar elections and they best they can do is to elect this idiot? Christ.
“The Americans have their national interests.”
I beg to differ.
I think what we have is an international asshat.
Halt all cooperation with the US. Recall the F-15s from Poland. Undermine all USA diplomatic positions where possible. No NATO or diplomatic support. Withdraw the ambassador.
Covert payments to US Repubs, sanction US enviro groups, just f**k them any way we can.
Bloomberg, Gellen, Soros, & Steyer………. other than being billion airs and extreme lefties, what have they in common. Hint, the word starts with a “J”
As a Canadian, it only saddens me that the USA is not our friend, but a country captured by communists.
Nov. 19th, 2013
Quietly and with no fanfare a presidential permit was signed by Obama to allow the reversal of the Kinder Morgan Cochin pipeline to transport gas from Eagle Ford Basin, Texas to Alberta, Canada.
Who owns Kinder Morgan?
Tom Steyer.
http://desmogblog.com/2013/11/26/obama-approves-border-crossing-fracked-gas-pipeline-used-dilute-tar-sands
Vote them out and keep them out.. Its the only solution..
*bingo!*
The Americans are buying our oil at a huge discount. Why in the world would they want to scre* with that arrangement.
Oh I think we Canadians received a very good answer. It is “no”, but we are to be kept
twisting in the wind so long as we allow ourselves to be so treated.
I do not think, JJM, that the present US administration is acting according to US
interests. Many Americans, possibly a majority of Americans, would agree with that.
Present!
What do people expect from a guy that never made a decision or held an executive position in his life.
He is looking for the exit now , he only has to last another year of indecision before they get to phase one of the American election cycle
Obama will soon be needing “support” for his bungling with Putin, surely we can put that on hold, indefinitely. Have a good war without us this time.
I am American and totally agree. It’s your oil, and Obama is being an a-hole.
The American people want it, the unions want it but Obama gets lots of dough from the enviro-fascist movement and that is that.
Besides, Warren Buffet owns BNSF RR and they are the biggest movers of Bakken oil and Buffet is a big supporter of Obersturmbannfuehrer Obama.
So ,sell it to Asia or ship it to Eastern Canada or do both.
Northern gateway. Just do it.
Don’t be bothering Obama and Steyer. Like any good leftists with power and influence, they’re busy organizing America’s defeat.
Capitulation and the ‘new order’ yet to come.
Dear America,
It sucks. We have tried and tried. Well, there is only that much we can do. When you look at the world today, it does not appear to be very reset relative to five years ago. To quote the spiritual advisor of your dear leader “America’s chicken are coming home to roost”. One could think that in such troubled times having access to more oil as opposed to less oil would be in your strategic interest. Especially if that oil does not come from people who actively hate you and on top of it comes at a discounted price. Seriously, can you even imagine a better deal? Well we have tried. But you leave us no choice and we are forced to cope with your rejection. We are kinda feeling like a progressive who just got raped by a muslim. Things just do not add up. Fortunately we have oil. And it is easy to make friends when you have oil. Just ask your friends the Saudis, Venezuelans and Nigerians. I am sure we can find someone on this planet who would like to buy our oil, perhaps even at a non-discounted price. So good luck to you and when you come to your senses feel free to give us a call. We’ll see what we will be able to do for you then.
Robert of Ottawa, we don’t have any F-15s. If only we did. We have a fleet of clapped-out F-18s now long overdue for replacement. 128 were in the original purchase; barely half of them now fly. The rest are either hangar queens or stripped for parts.
Many of you have been noting the need for Canada to shoulder a greater share of the burden in its defence. I agree with you, strongly. But are you really willing to do so, given the financial cost this will entail? Because there’s no room for b!tching and whining about high taxes if we’re serious about significantly enlarging Canada’s defence capabilities.
Glick’s comments about America’s loss of power and influence are spot-on. Never I think since the Revolution has the US had so greatly diminished a status, and it has all manifested in the last six years. Her point about defining failure as a success is also well taken. In 1943 with the loss of the Solomon Islands, the imperial Japanese government denied there was any setback to its expansion plans at all. It claimed this was merely “Advance by Turning.”
The United States has now resorted to mere bribery in its attempts to influence foreign governments. The paying of Danegeld is not new. One of the symptoms of the final death throes of the western Roman Empire was the annual tribute (we now call it subsidy, development fund) paid to various tribes of German barbarians annually for them not to violate the borders. A nadir of the Empire was the reign of the Syrian usurper Heliogabalus. In modern times however, it’s not clear that there’s an Aurelian, a Probus or a Diocletian waiting in the wings to breathe another couple of centuries of life into the American body politic.
Sorry Canada. Our country’s been taken over by a dbag commie. Do what you gotta do. I still love ya’s.
If Nebraska is truly the stumbling block in this thing then why can’t they build the pipeline down to Omaha right now and the rest when the issue is settled? If you are going to ship it by truck and rail anyhow then ship it from Omaha. It will be shorter distance to travel by costlier means and there will be 60,000 workers on both sides of the border working while the lawyers play.
BTW, Saw Dipper Doer, the Canadian Ambassador to US on Fox News and must say that he was very clearly on the Canadian “build it” side and actually praised the PM on his logical thinking on the whole deal. For a former NDP premier that is something out of the ordinary.
Time for CSIS to set up a double “O” section, and simply do what the fictional James Bond did to the Queen’s foreign enemies. Or renegade Canadians hiding somewhere in Asia.
I’d pay damn good money right now to be a fly on the wall in Harper’s office when he got word of this.
If I were him, I wouldn’t even take that POS’s phone calls any more.
Time to tell obozo to take a hike. Put the pipeline in canada and refine it here. Nationalize the resource if yoy have to.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/3483376768001/reaction-to-wh-delay-of-keystone-pipeline-decision/?playlist_id=930909819001#sp=show-clips
Here is Charles Krauthammer on the Keystone XL pipeline on a veritable tear:
“A spit in the eye of Canada!”
“Absolute disrespect of our friends on the highest order.”
What else would you expect from the Obama-Nation(tm) on Good Friday…
Happy Passover!
Cheers
Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
Of course Obama isn’t going to commit to Keystone. Midterm elections are coming up in November.
Support for XL is higher in the US than Canada. If we’re left on the hook now it’s just a taste of what Americans have been getting from Barack. If we see an east-west pipeline come out of this I’ll be quite happy in the end. It would be nice to see a national project like that bury memories of the NEP.
the Obama administration might try to punt the politically sensitive decision until after this year’s midterms. That’s because even if the project has solid support from the general public, it has sharply divided Barack Obama’s Democratic party.
That’s been a foregone conclusion for about a year if anyone had been paying attention.
The pipeline from Alberta to the West coast is currently on schedule.
Round up the polar bears on Canadian territory, set up a website “Polar Bear Hunting 4 Obama” and shoot a bear every 12 hours until Obama OKs the Keystone XL pipeline.
Success inside of 6 weeks is my guess.
We have a fleet of clapped-out F-18s now long overdue for replacement. 128 were in the original purchase; barely half of them now fly. The rest are either hangar queens or stripped for parts.
The USN has decided to upgrade to the Super Hornet configuration of the F-18. Why wouldn’t Canada do the same? If it’s good enough for the USN it should be good enough for Canada.
Put the pipeline in canada and refine it here.
OK, then who pays for building the additional refinery capacity in Canada to handle it? The oil companies don’t want to, they’ve already got excess refinery capacity on the Texas coast in a much more favorable tax/export position.
Super Hornet is not an upgrade to the existing Hornet, it is an entirely new airframe. May as well wait for more capable F-35. F-22 would be ideal.
Buying the president favours: http://billmoyers.com/
WHAT THE 1% DON’T WANT YOU TO KNOW
Forget Keystone…forget Northern Gateway.
Build a pipeline or pipelines east to Halifax and Churchill, and ship as much crude as possible to Europe. That would hurt Russia more than any sanctions would.
Northern Gateway is already proceeding on schedule. Another pipeline to the East will happen when it’s profitable for the petroleum companies. It’s their decision; our taxes shouldn’t be building pipelines or refineries.
Obama is a man of principle. Unfortunately, his principles reflect those of the looters and thugs of the left along with the anti-industrial revolutionaries of the green theocracy culture. What’s worse is that Canadians are arguably as rotten as the above when it comes to giving support to new pipelines to move Oil Sands crude in either alternate direction.
The great Canadian pipeline debate of almost 60 years has now bubbled back up to the surface. BC’s watermelons and NIMBYs typify Canadian hypocrisy of relishing the spoils of socialism in health care, pensions, education and welfare but strive to kill jobs and economic activity that can actually pay enough taxes to cover the cost for their soothers (entitlements). Service sector jobs don’t pay the bills when it comes to big government.
Keystone XL is (was?) the easiest way out for Harper and Obamugabe has just Putined him, again. Apparently Obama won’t stand up to big bullies like Russia and China or psychotic bullies like Iran but has no qualms with a friendly and submissive Canada. Time to get our own Nukes?
Send in the Clowns. Maybe next year.
Why buy American?
http://www.eurofighter.com/
There’s already discussions about putting a pipeline through to New Burns wick. The Irving’s have refineries there and would likely expand them.
yup, and poor OLD north of 90 is on full stupid rant, full moon fever I think
The hypocrisy of the enviro-billionaire Tom Steyer, he opposes both Keystone XL and the Northern Gateway pipelines, but not his own companies, Kinder Morgans, twinning of it’s pipeline to Vancouver, BC.
north of 60, don’t know where you get your info…….unicorn’s?
Eagle Spirit Energy’s alternative to Northern Gateway, backed by the owners of the Vancouver Canucks, the Aquilini family;
http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/1338831/first-nations-alternative-to-northern-gateway-pipeline-announced
David Black’s refinery proposal for BC;
http://www.timescolonist.com/business/kitimat-refinery-would-benefit-environment-david-black-says-1.952995
On 4 March 2014, TransCanada submitted a project description [Filing A59129] for the proposed Energy East pipeline project. The proposed project would include:
Converting an existing natural gas pipeline to an oil transportation pipeline;
Constructing new pipeline in Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Eastern Ontario, Québec and New Brunswick to link up with the converted pipe; and
Constructing the associated facilities, pump stations and tank terminals required to move crude oil from Alberta to Québec and New Brunswick, including marine facilities that enable access to other markets by ship.
What does this mean? A project description is a summary of a project. It provides preliminary information, which allows the NEB to prepare for the application, and begin outreach activities. TransCanada will file a detailed application at a later date.
I can’t see why we Canadians are not building a pipeline to eastern Canada and a super refinery somewhere along the way. Why not simply follow the trans Canada hiway and use what ever resources we have already have?
Surely we have the engineers and people able to do this.
Cancellation of the F-35 purchase would be a good start.
Yeah well, the F35 is predictably gonna be stillborn.
This is way off topic…..nothin’ to do with Keystone….
Delays, cost overruns on a flawed concept design will doom it.
In a real world combat environment, the F35 would compare to early WW2 disasters, such as the Fairy Battle bomber and the Bolton Paul Defiant (Turret fighter) or the Bf110 (the heavy fighter which required a fighter escort)…..
The F35 would be easy prey for even Canada’s clunky CF18’s…
BTW stealth is a myth….long wave radar (a primitive concept) can see them…..Maybe Saddam’s new radar couldn’t see ’em but the Serbians old sets sure did…..and down the F117…..and made the B2’s nervous.
The Chinese have copied the F22 concept but stayed away from the F35 “multi-role” concept…..
Maybe we can buy them from Walmart……..