54 Replies to “I want me some of that.”

  1. Stupid politicians and bureaucrats. Now they are going to start making decisions based on appearances rather than origin. Racists!
    Don’t the idiots who want to be so inclusive realize that virtually all Quebecois have some Indian ancestry and as many as half those on the prairies have some. I haven’t discovered my Indian ancestry but I’m looking.

  2. My ancestors were . . .
    Coureurs de bois
    Coureurs de bois were itinerant, unlicensed fur traders of New France known as “wood-runners” to the English on Hudson Bay and “bush-lopers” to the Anglo-Dutch of Albany (NY).
    What are the chances? Do you think I qualify?

  3. Another gong show arising from trying to have just a little bit of apartheid. Given the payola associated with being “First Nation”, it’s like trying to meet the demand for free lottery tickets — good luck with that.

  4. I have several blonde blue eyed cousins in Nfld. than suddenly became very native aware. I think their EI ran out .

  5. It will be interesting to see what happens to this fraudulent house of cards when the Solutrean theory of North American influx is proven correct and the old notion collapses. Of course, the established cottage industries that have been extracting untold hundreds of billions out of taxpayers will fight tooth and nail to stay plugged into the money machine.

  7. Cripes. Why not just declare ALL newfies,wherever they are,native,give them 50 G’s,then re-introduce C-25. Only this time word it so that the trough of Indian affairs is being terminated NOW and we can all live as equal Canadians(as soon as we lose Queerbec)

  8. What a scam. Plain & simple. And not only funded by, but even encouraged by, our own governments.
    This line is pretty telling: “We’re talking about lifelong entitlement to Indian status and band membership. Recognition of your heritage.”
    Key word: ENTITLEMENT. That encompasses, what, 80%? 90? Of what it means to be Indian in Canada today. Entitlements. Free stuff. Tax exemptions. Goodies paid for by the rest of us. Bah.

  9. I knew a red hair Metis who was really ticked when an obviously racist US Border Guard didn’t believe she was native enough when she was returning to her job in the US, despite her Canadian Metis card. Hadn’t the guy ever heard of Jay’s Treaty? Not being much of an historian but didn’t Jay’s Treaty expire in 1806. Also, Indians weren’t a party to the treaty.
    “It is agreed, that it shall at all times be free to His Majesty’s subjects, and to the citizens of the United States, and also to the Indians dwelling on either side of the said boundary line, freely to pass and repass, by land or inland navigation into the respective territories and countries of the two parties on the continent of America, (the country within the limits of the Hudson Bay company only excepted) … and freely carry on trade and commerce with each other.”

  10. My wife’s grandparents immigrated from Russia. One of their daughters (wife’s aunt) although 100% European blood, managed to get a status card in Saskatchewan.
    System is seriously flawed.

  11. Hey, I watched the movie “Dances with Wolves” does that count for status?
    And if we want to go all tribal and that; what about the Huns…?
    I’m sure a few of the applicants will sign up under their new Indian name:
    “Dances for Dollars”
    Cheers
    Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
    1st Saint Nicolaas Army
    Army Group “True North”

  12. So what is the ‘treaty’ with this band?
    The article says that they are supposed to be ‘landless’. Good luck with that. There will soon be land claims on the whole province. If BC is an indicator, it will be claimed two or three times over.
    I’m a conservative, but the CPC just seems senseless so much of the time.

  15. Proof that when “free” stuff is offered by government, people will bend logic into pretzels to get it.
    “Ralph Loder is one of those who discovered his Mi’kmaq heritage just four years ago. He traced it back to Jane Matthews, a Mi’kmaq woman who married an Englishman, Ralph Brake, in the late 1700s. He says he’s not surprised by the large of number of applicants. On his family tree there are 1,700 people “and they’re all native,” he said, even if few are recognized as such. He lives in an area traditionally inhabited by Mi’kmaq, but he’s not sure if he’ll be approved.”
    Assuming a generation every 30years and that Jane Matthews and Ralph Brake had their first child in 1790, six generations (180yrs) later it is 1970. So Mr Loder is perhaps 1/128th Native. That is a generous assumption as people married and had children at much younger ages than today in previous centuries. He could easily be 1/256th or 1/512th native.
    “He lives in an area traditionally inhabited by Mi’kmaq” is proof of nothing. Following that logic every white South African is a Zulu or Xhosa.”
    All those Newfoundlanders who are falsely claiming native status should be ashamed of themselves.

  16. Lately, I’ve had a strange urge to hoop dance and sit in a sweat lodge. I think I will get me some of that treaty status too.

  17. “The size of the response was “neither reasonable nor credible,” the federal government said. The financial implications were significant, considering the health and education benefits due to status Indians in Canada. ”
    SURELY the Government is NOT suggesting that Aboriginals get a little bit MORE than the rest of us!!!
    My nephew traced our family tree several years back and found an Injun in the woodpile in Quebec about 150 years ago.When I suggested I was entitled to free hunting and fishing licences I was laughed at! Oh,the humiliation!
    Woe is me. Here’s hoping all those 100,000 Miq’maqs get full Injun status and all rush off for dental work immediately. That should put Canada into an American-style health care crisis.

  18. That would mean you’re French too, River-Rat. Are you willing to get involved in Quebec politics? Myself, I avoid La Belle Province except to visit my relatives.

  19. We are not going to lose Quebec. It’s ours by right of conquest and occupation (which is how the French got it from the aboriginals who got it the same way from each other) so if any Quebecois don’t want to be Canadian their claim to the land is inferior to ours. We can lose the separatist Quebecois anytime they care enough to get lost. One suitcase each to be paid for by Canada and a six month passport, bon voyage.

  20. Not exactly a new problem, folks.
    Letter from John Ferguson to William Claus, Deputy Superintendent General, Indian Affairs, 5 March 1819, concerning threats made by Mohawks of the Bay of Quinte to passers-by; the influence of white lumbermen over the Mohawks; lineage (in relation to a General Order on 2 November 1818 that presents should not be given to the descendants of Europeans):
    “Will not a difficulty arise, as to who these people are? In the Mohawk village here, a large proportion are the immediate (perhaps the second generation) descendants of Germans; there is also a family of immediate descendants of Africans: Are they to be considered as Indians? There are also some descendants of Americans, whose ancestors were Europeans. Will they come within the intention of the Order? In fact there are but few real Indians amongst them.”

  21. I’m a pure blooded aboriginal Scotsman, that ought to be good for a couple hundred thou’ in grant money, eh?
    This is the part I like: “Now a new law before Parliament would allow the government to review and revoke the Indian status of those who’ve already been approved. The Bill, C-25, would also bar anyone from suing the government for the way an application was handled.”
    Yep, the Parliament giveth, the Parliament taketh away. Including the right to sue for damages, which is really rich.
    Dear Indians: Like us White people, you don’t have any rights. None. Welcome to Reality ™. Be happy they didn’t confiscate your guns like High River.

  22. I played cowboys and Indians when I was 5 years old. Since I was the designated Indian I will surely qualify for native status. Where do I pick up my cheques? When can I get my free snowmobiles? How do I get the money to set up my tax free smokes shop on my front lawn. No more tax returns! Yippee!

  23. I sent my claim to aboriginal status to the German government as my ancestors were forced to leave what became Germany in 1732. I cannot understand why I never heard back?
    So much of the ‘native industry’ is simply a fleecing of Canadian taxpayers. Why would natives shirk away from freebees when looking how well it has worked for Quebecers? IMHO when your blood mix drops below 1/8th your status is done. End of
    conversation.

  24. A good friend from NL says he is 1/64 native and has his little card. It allows his daughter free tuition at any university. Why doesn’t the government declare everyone has some native background thereby negating making the native bands anything different that anyone else hence no special treatment. Sounds like a plan.

  26. This is one of those planned activities that work flawlessly on paper, but found to have features later that are, problematic. Regardless, a few hundred bureaucrats, officials, and lawyers will by the time the features become obvious, planned their lifes career on keeping the program going.
    I sigh, and think….
    Its a wonderful plan until you run out of other peoples money.

  27. I think treaties are living documents that must be reinterpreted from generation to generation.

  28. David “I think treaties are living documents that must be reinterpreted from generation to generation.”
    So $5 a year plus food in times of famine isn’t enough? I like the treaties as written. More on Jay’s Treaty. It allowed all citizens of the UK and US plus natives to cross the border freely. If it’s still in effect, which it isn’t, why can’t I cross the border without a passport?

  29. I’m actually pure blooded Canadian with an A. My great grandparents came out West in 1902 from Trois Rivieres. Before that my ancestors came from the Languadoc region in France. I don’t speak French except for a few odd phrases and some cuss words and that’s good enough for me.
    As for Quebec . . . Good riddance and pass the sucre creme.

  30. last week this native said we will pay for this ourselves till we get the right answer
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/aboriginal/new-cancer-study-needed-says-fort-chipewyan-chief-1.2609313
    oilsands and cervical cancer? what are you putting on your wahoo?
    of course living on a lake with a uranium mine and binge drinking are other independent variables.
    remember the farmers of southern alberta doing the same jig. and complained even when it was shown that they lived longer than most and asthma might we caused by particles in the wind . what wind?

  31. “I think treaties are living documents that must be reinterpreted from generation to generation.”
    Have you discovered immortality?

  32. “dave says… A good friend from NL says he is 1/64 native and has his little card. It allows his daughter free tuition at any university.”
    my son knows some kids from the mohawk rez at bay of quinte… they told him they get free post-secondary tuition as well as a $900 a month living allowance from the bay of quinte (translation: taxpayers of canada) band. obviously part of why the feds are on the hook for 10 to 12 billion dollars a year for aboriginal affairs. not sure which savvy aboriginal negotiator thought to include this education clause in the treaties of two centuries ago.
    otoh, we’ve calculated we’ll be shelling out $15,000 a year for my son to get his degree.
    curiously, i’m still waiting on my cheques from the british royal family to compensate my family for the highland clearances. oh well.

  34. Key word: ENTITLEMENT. That encompasses, what, 80%? 90? Of what it means to be Indian in Canada today. Entitlements. Free stuff. Tax exemptions
    Judging from the comments, many roundeyes want the same entitlements and free government largesse.
    “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.”
    attributed to ― Alexander Fraser Tytler

  35. at the risk of being declared r**ist, why not run a DNA test on each applicant?

  36. were does the line start, I’m certain that thieves….erm gypsies are closely related to injuns, if not by blood then in kind!!!

  37. I have light brown hair and very blue eyes and do not tan even after being left out in the sun to roast, yet I could easily obtain a status card. My grandfather was full Miramichi Mi’kmaq which bestows all his living descendants status under current law. However, I choose not to do that for reasons that are no-one’s business but my own. My grandfather (the “injun”, as has disgracefully been said here) taught me that there is no dignity in expecting others to carry you through life. Nor that anyone should take pride in forever reliving the troubles of one’s ancestors. But I guess my family are just a bunch of lazy, greedy injuns eh? Never mind that my brother, sister and me combined employ over a hundred people.
    It’s comments like some in here that make me wonder just what the hell I am doing hanging around here. As long as some of the comments made in this thread are around for all to see there is no way in hell that it can ever be claimed that racism isn’t alive and well in Canada.
    Just plain disgraceful.

  38. “It’s comments like some in here that make me wonder just what the hell I am doing hanging around here.”
    Well,for one thing,those comments are allowed because our gracious hostess doesn’t belive in censorship.
    Second thing,if you are really and truly proud of your heirtage (which you should be), get over the comments. You are a better person than the one’s making those comments.As in ALL cultures, there is the good,the bad,and the just plain butt-ugly.

  39. It’s a bit vague as far as my memory is concerned,
    but apparently there is something called DNA.

  40. Hoist on their own petard, the G** D***ed Federal Government is. It was well known in Nfld., even in academic circles, that
    the only Native group were the Beothuk (and we conveniently wiped them out). The Mikmak, it was pointed out, were
    not native to NL at all; in fact they came over with us whites. Then the G** D***ed F***ing Federal Government stuck
    their G** D***ed F***ing noses in the matter. And it wasn’t just the bloody Liberals who did it. The Conservatives sat around
    doing their usual stupid Conservative thing of grinning and drooling like the morons they are, while this all went ahead.
    I hope that all the new MikMak and the new Metis bankrupt the stupid buggers.

  41. TrueNorthist;
    My best friend growing up was full blooded Mohawk. This is out here in BC so no reserve living for him or his family. No father in the house and his mother worked hard her whole life raising 8 kids who never expected a handout. He now owns a company that employs +800 workers and is a leader in his community.
    The absolute tragedy in native affairs is the leeches who suck the cash out of whatever monies are directed to Natives. That includes whites and natives (mostly whites) I fundamently disagree with idea that taxpayers fund the cultural industry. White, native, black, yellow or whatever blend is pointed out. IMO the native industry have raised culture to such a pedestal that the ‘here and now’ is not dealt with. Chief Louie in BC has a great grasp of what is required. My friend should be a role model of what any person can do with hard work and diligence.
    Canada should end the taxpayer supported culture movement in Canada. Treaty making should have a deadline with penalties to all parties for not concluding. I have
    serious questions about the reservation concept. Individual land title has to be established. How can natives establish role models otherwise.

  42. Oh joy! Natives never having recognized that white man’s construct – borders – next we’ll have Elizabeth Warren claiming Canadian citizenship and taking a run at NL Premier.

  44. I use the word “Injun” deliberately to diss the politically correct,who have segued in their terms from “Injun” to “Native” to “Aboriginal” without ever doing or caring anything about the Indian people of this Country.
    I have Indian ancestry,as I mentioned, and my Dad hired many fellow WW2 veterans,all “Injuns” on his commercial fishing boat. I worked along side and befriended those guys for ten years and have more respect for the people,no matter what the politically correct name is today,than all the politicians of any stripe who infest the Indian Industry.
    The true racists in the Indian Industry are the PC whores who want to keep”em down on the Rez so as to control their lives and never let ’em advance.
    The people who love to change the description of the people whom they see as lesser beings are always quick to excoriate those who refuse to play that game. Are the people of the United States of America any better off because they are no longer “Negros” or “Black”, but are now “African-American”?
    No,but the politically correct can tell them selves they are wonderful because they advanced the terminology.

  46. I did a significant amount of work on a reserve back 20 years ago. all of our contracts refered to ” the Indians” not the band , not the first nation , even though the sign said “First Nation ” as you went in . Anyway , they were Cree, who arrived here in Alberta just ahead of the whites, they were the trading partners

  47. Wait a minute….Newfoundland Indians???? I thought the native natives, the Beothuk, all sort of died off.
    So where did these Newfoundland Indians come from? The mainland????

  48. Scar…
    While I cannot 100% vouch for the redman, the whiteman who does his/her primary and secondary education in the Knife will get 5 years at the University of Alberta….guaranteed. Now this was only a couple of years ago but I doubt that the entitlement has changed much.
    Of course, there are some expected returns from the Government of the NWT and the tuition and expenses must be paid back on a pro-rated basis if expectations are not met.

  49. They are at best “First Immigrants”; very few established ‘nations’. The Iroquois Confederation was a notable exception, as well as the Moundbuilders and the Pueblo people in the SW.
    However, for all aboriginals to claim some sort of special treatment for being first immigrants is ludicrous. Canada should have settled land claims like Alaska did 40 years ago. Every Alaskan became equal. Google “Alaska Land Claim Act” to see how it was done.

  50. Every Canadian citizen should be granted Indian status. Then all Canadians can be equal before the law. We will all qualify for income and sales tax exemptions, free tuition and healthcare, and generous handouts. Don’t tax you, don’t tax me, tax the guy behind the tree.

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