15 Replies to “PLA Unit 61398”

  3. I give up. How could one tell if the Times content were being edited by Chinese communists rather than the Times own editors?

  5. The report lifts the veil on a Chinese operation, pinpointing the activity to a specific unit – PLA Unit 61398 – located in a building “on the outskirts of Shanghai,” the Times says.
    “Either they are coming from inside Unit 61398,” Kevin Mandia, the founder and chief executive of Mandiant, told the Times in an interview last week, “or the people who run the most-controlled, most-monitored Internet networks in the world are clueless about thousands of people generating attacks from this one neighborhood.”
    ….
    Because the Chinese military hackers are most likely operating from inside Unit 61398…Bingo, we have a winner!
    Obviously, the security lax are leaving the back doors on their servers open; presenting an easy target to exploit.
    Wonder why corporate sales numbers are down, when the military Chinese ‘hack-ta-vists’ are “eating your lunch”.
    Multiply by several million ‘hack-ta-vists’ and hey Houston we have a problem.
    Cheers
    Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
    1st Saint Nicolaas Army
    Army Group “True North”

  6. The current scuttlebutt is that EVERY PC in North America is hacked within 15 minutes of first going online….after that…

  7. Howcum you can only contact Revenu Canada by mail or telephone…not email….for security reasons and yet the Firearms Registry was/is online and insecure?

  8. Hans; The real vulnerability is in our hardware. The chips are made in; guess where, even military hardware. Not too big a stretch to speculate a “hole” or two made for the hacker with the right code, is built in.
    I tried to get a data sheet for a common chip recently; no way possible. It used to be an easy GOOGLE for NA made chips but no longer for ones made in the big C.
    We have been too damned naive and blind with this (free for them) “trade” to decide that certain industries are strategic.

  9. Christ Gunney99….34 years ago,the tubes and transistors used in the attack radar on our ships was made in…..the Chezq Republic. Why change now, just because one commie state went down? Besides,they are building a pretty good one just south(or north) of us.

  10. The scuttlebutt I got is that since basically all the hard-drives are made in the PRC the Chinese pre-format them so that they can access ‘their hard-drives’ whenever they want to, no ‘hacking’ necessary.

  11. The fact of the matter is that the Chinese government does operate cyber warfare centers.
    I work with a guy right now who spent 10 yrs in China developing legal software …. he interviewed and hired software engineers whose previous job had been cyber hacking.
    Q – “So what do you do Jingbo?”
    A – “Viruses.”
    Q – “Security? Detection?”
    A – “No. I make viruses for networks.”
    Truth is that over there it is out in the open and nobody who works in this area even care to hide it.
    Americans ARE forkin stupid.

  12. Oz,
    most hard drives are manufactured in Singapore and Thailand. Western Digital and Seagate both have their facilities located here. That’s why the floods in Thailand wiped out the world supply of drives for a couple months, sending prices skyrocketing. Samsung has facilities in Korea, Hitachi used to have a big Hungary operation as well as one in South East Asia. Toshiba has a facility in Thailand. I don’t know of any hard drives that are manufactured in China…

  13. You can probably count on that, Oz.
    And even if they aren’t manufactured in the PRC, you can get your bippy that the Chicoms are paying off the software engineers in other lands to do just what you said they’re doing.
    I know nothing about software, hardware, or ‘puters – but if a state can install sleeper agents, I’m pretty sure they can do something similar in cyber land.

  14. When a former communist tyranny turns to global merchantilism, industrial spying takes the place of cold war espionage. At the last large tele-communications company I worked with there was a standing policy to never allow Chinese nationals to tour the facility or get near a company terminal. I guess Bill gates helped them step it up a notch.

  15. justthinkin: The difference is that 34 years ago the technology in electronics was Jurassic. Today you could have a more powerful computer than the ones I worked on in 1980(that filled a 2000 sq. ft. room)in your car key fob. (one kilobyte of memory was the size of 4 refrigerators stood in line.)
    There has to be industries deemed to be strategic. It was wrong 34 years ago and is wrong today.
    Dare I ask where our Army’s ammo is made?

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