Red Deer resident Anthony Sowan is a full status Cree Indian. And he doesn’t agree with Idle No More whatsoever. So he expressed his opinions publicly and this is what happened. Here’s his original Facebook posting that started the ball rolling.
When republished on the Huffington Post Canada, one Idle No More supporter inadvertently let the cat out of the bag about the real purpose of the movement:
Idle No More is about forming a socialist government, in equal partnership with Indigenous people and settlers, where building community, culture, and sharing is the common goal, not a capitalist selfishness, that borrows off the less fortunate. It’s a reverse way of thinking, contribute to my community FIRST, ask for what I need last. Not everyone gets it yet!
The stench of Marxism is strong with this crowd…
Ah, communal serfdom for the 99% and lives
of luxury for a North Korean style elite.
Sounds like the ravings of some demented cult.
contribute to my community FIRST, ask for what I need last
That’s funny! The supporters and voters who continually choose to support these socialist movements are the ones who are taking from the community first, and only ask for more and more!
Give that guy the Order of Canada!
Well Pete, it would be rude to demand the Escalade up front wouldn’t it? This “community first” circumlocution is much more polite.
Good for Anthony Sowan.
Ah, the collective. Are we sure that it was Charles23 that wrote this and not The One.
However, I think most of us here knew all along who and what was behind this.
Last time some minority tried to build socialist society 100 millions were expended for the better future. Ken will attest. Since then every time I hear that a movement for building socialist society is formed in my country, I buy more guns and ammo.
PS: 223 and 30 cal FMJ bullets are sold out across Canada. Anyone knows where I can buy them in bulk?
PPS: Kate will delete this post in 3… 2… 1…
Try Russia, 454guy. They are not currently under the thumb of the Chimp in Chief.
This is not about native rights this is about a anti Harper agenda and the Occupy movement who lets be honest they want communism.
Playing devils advocate here. It could be that this DJ used his status to reach this pinnacle in his career and finances,and now advocates denying that opportunity to his peers. Just something to consider before going into idolization mode.
Not everyone gets it yet!
That’s funny — I thought pretty much everyone who was not part of Idle Forever pretty much got it.
just have to throw in the old capitalists are bad canard.
Might as well, Mark. If I’ll proceed that way, I will be buying a container load.
You can’t make a socialist omelette without breaking capitalist eggs.
this probably off topic a bit but i was thinking about indians and multiculti sillyness. the bloodlines that are now in my family as it exists in 2013 are as follows. scottish, english, french, italian, mohawk, mic mac. our ancestors have been here for sometime now. it irritates me that any one group thinks they have a lock on the right to disrupt anyone elses life in any way. i wonder how they would feel in scotland if i went there and demanded my little piece of stornaway? that is silly isn’t it. it is time that all canadians stand up and demand a stop to nonsense like idle no more, ows and any other unlawful disruptions to our lives.
He’s gone viral. Attempts to silence him have been wildly unsuccessful.
OWG said: “it is time that all canadians stand up and demand a stop to nonsense like idle no more, ows and any other unlawful disruptions to our lives.”
Like I said on the other thread, we’ll see what’s what when the OPP go on strike after Hudak brings in Right to Work legislation. The only thing keeping these illegal demonstrations going is the cops. No cops, nobody is going to even slow down for ’em. Should make for some awesome YouTube.
Now is the time to add a nice big kangaroo catcher to the front of your pick-up my friends, before they get sold out. Early bird gets the worm, right?
Those disruptions are only illegal, old white guy, if “Law Enforcement” will arrest and the “Legal System” will prosecute. Seen any sign of THAT lately?
On a side note, I wonder what would happen if Mere Citizens started to sing or play this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZclddLcOYYA
at Idle No More events…
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It is becoming increasingly obvious that Aboriginal radicalism/protest/trouble making/revisionism is being inflamed and cultured by extremist anarcho-Marxist elements attached to large unions. The Native protest movement has been hijacked by radical unionists and exploited as a tool to intimidate and smear any government whom they deem an impediment to their drive for political influence and expansion. I think the ultimate public sector unionist goal is some sort of extortionist merger with government as a public policy maker and public trough parasite.
Unfortunately the Native protesters who have been radicalized,mobilized and funded are oblivious to their exploitation in carrying forward a unionist political agenda. This is probably why we see the vast difference in the attitudes and politics of common native people and the native activists/political class.
When unions are put back in the cage with accountability laws, we will see far less radical native staged events.
Socialist FN activism, I wonder where that came from? Could it be the residual memory augmented with revisionist fiction of the tribal and communal utopian condition pre-contact? How about from life on the reserves where no private property rights exist and the text-book model of “socialist utopia” is all around. Or perhaps it comes from the entitlement and grievance (non-native) pimping class, drunk on multi-culti Stockholm syndrome, reinforcing the above while mostly educated from the finest institutions of sophomoric Marxism. That, and their flat screens are likely tuned to the CBC!
Good for Mr.Sowan. He did use some big words so I doubt if the Idle no more crowd would understand him.
It’s SO good to hear from one of the Indians that IS making a good life for himself!
He makes damned good points about the environment and politics,those issues are settled by consultation between governments and interested parties,not by activists blocking railroads.
Of 1.2 million Indians in this Country, only about 350,000 live on the Rez’s.
Some folks have said that the Indians who are interested in bettering themselves are the ones that already left,and the rest are determined to just live off the “government” the rest of their lives. It’s hard to disagree with that.
Too many “Aboriginals” involved in the latest demonstrations have expressed support for Chief Theresa Spence. I doubt very much that they would give the same benefit of the doubt to a white Mayor who had millions of dollars unaccounted for in his town.
There is no logic to their protests,they have no clearly articulated plan,and their demands are so vague as to be meaningless,what DOES “consultation” really mean,for instance,regarding ANY development on Indian claimed land?
Only the naive would suggest it means anything more than ,”I want a piece of the pie”.
Many Canadians have concluded that the activists are merely tools of the Indian politicians who want things to stay just as they are, with even more money flowing through the hands of the Chiefs, with no accountability.
They’re probably right.
Check out the link to the Black Rod, an excellent story there about how the Treaties were negotiated.
Kudos to Mr Sowan.
It is good to hear common sense coming from someone involved in this situation.
Just read this from Barry Cooper:
Aboriginals have no claim to sovereignty
Yeah well, all this has me comparing London Ontario’s reaction to Mayor Joe Fontano’s genuine graft and The GTA reaction to Mayor Rob Ford’s mistaken use of office supplies while supporting charity…..
our ancestors have been here for sometime now. it irritates me that any one group thinks they have a lock on the right to disrupt anyone elses life in any way.
Well said and I agree completely.
There are a few examples that come close to socialism in Canada, one would be Hutterite colonies, the other would be aboriginal reserves. The Hutterites appear to have made it work successfully. Perhaps some of the aboriginal communities have too. Clarence Louie, Chief of the Osoyoos Indian Band is a good example of successful aboriginal government. Chief Escalade Porkahauntus is a good example of the abject failure of aboriginal socialism.
It’s a Communist revolution — commenters like Ken(Kulak) and myself have been alluding to it for years.
Don’t be fooled by the word “Socialism” which people often confuse with “social benevolence”, “social progammes”, etc. Socialism is in fact Communism, at least according to Marx himself — in Marxist theory Socialism is in fact the hightest state of Communism — it’s the Communist “utopia”, as it were. It’s supposed to occur after the “dictatorship of the proletariat” is established.
“Social benevolence” etc. is something entirely different — it’s something that all civil societies throughout history have practiced to some degree or another long before Karl Marx came on the scene. All free Western democracies have some sort of system of social benevolence to help the less fortunate, the disabled, the poor, the elderly, et cetera., and it’s very much rooted in the Judeo-Christian ethic. But the Commies love to confuse that traditional system of benevolence and “good Samaritanism” with “Socialism”.
The fact is Socialism is in fact fascist, dictatorial, and indistinguishable from classic Communism except for its various permutations and the different brands or fronts its proponents choose to operate under.
Hutterites, Mennonites, et cetera are not in fact Socialists or Communists — they’re about the farthest thing from Big Government you can get!
Lurking behind this so called movement . You can see in the shadows the Unions along with the NDP. Waiting like vultures to prey on our society to engorge themselves by corruption.
This is where these people indelibly get their funds. That with the Communist party of Canada. If they ever got away with truly doing this. They would be the first in the landfills of mass murder by the “progressives”. Just a peak at history shows where National socialism ALWAYS ends.
Took courage for this guy to state the obvious truth. Thats why people resonate with his post. Even socialists nuts know the verity of this when they see it. Its why this guy will be punished by the parasites in his community.Some where, sometime. Communists hate reality more than cats do dogs.
It’s like the world began yesterday ……
How many years of this socialist incursion have passed? How deep does it run?
No doubt there are people who can’t distinguish between communism, socialism, Marxism, fascism, and dictatorship. To educated people those terms have significant differences. That’s why those different terms exist. The real world isn’t black and white, but a wade range of shades of grey. Black vs white extreme polarization is more what I expect from Americans. That of course is the fundamental cause of their dysfunctional society. Fortunately, most Canadians are smarter than that.
It’s so simple. Classify Indians as enemies of the state. Nullify all treaty arrangements, freeze all funding and send in troops to arrest all the leaders (chiefs). Then ship them all to a swath of land in northern Manitoba to ‘live off the land’. I’ll donate a few bucks so they can have a liquor store up there.
Classify Indians as enemies of the state.
I concur there have been incidents of Sikh terrorism, but isn’t that reaction a bit extreme. I’m sure we have adequate laws to deal with whatever any Indians or any other immigrants might do.
Ricardo, you get to say bingo.
I do agree Ken (Kulak), Ricardo has nailed the situation! The cat is out of the bag, a lot of fur will be flying somewhere.
Socialism is a government at war with its own citizens, a government run by a criminal gang of parasites. Running that criminal gang is what many of the Occupy and Idle No More protesters aspire to.
PMSH is doing the best thing by standing back and letting Idle no more self-destruct.
I would suggest that you need to brush up on your Communism/Socialism/fascism/Marxism/dictatorship knowledge — and I would suggest that you take a lesson from the Americans who actually study these subjects in school. Canadians in fact don’t study them in school — I have lived in four different countries and I can state categorically that Canadians are probably the most uneducated people in the Western hemisphere on the subjects of Communism, Socialism, etc.
Karl Marx himself defined Socialism as the highest state of Communism, following the imposition of dictatorship.
That sentence alone covers all of your terms and how they are inter-related, except for one: “Fascism”.
Fascism is also a form of Socialist dictatorship — usually associated with Nationalistic types of Socialism rather than International Socialism (The Nazis were in fact “National Socialists” — look it up).
Fascism comes from the Latin word “fasces” which mean “bundle” as in a bundle of sticks. It symbolizes the collective nature of Fascism, and the strength in acting as a socialist collective rather than as individuals — an individual stick can easily be broken, while a collective bundle of sticks is almost impossible to break.
Fascism, Communism, Socialism, and even Nazism do in fact have nuanced differences, but they share more things in common than they differ. All are Socialist, all are dictatorial, they are all cut from the same cloth and signify the same thing if they seize power: tyranny.
BTW, traditional Native tribalism is not Socialism or Communism — that sort of collective sharing by tiny hunter-gatherer bands was for survival purposes, a practical adaptation to the economics of the wilderness. There was also nothing intrinsically “anti-capitalist” about Native tradition — archaeology demonstrates that Natives from ancient times practiced free market economics, from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego, South America.
The idea that Natives were the first “Communists” or “Socialists” simply because they voluntarily shared some of their items collectively is a total myth. Neither does that sort of voluntary economic cooperation eliminate their identity as individuals. Karl Marx first propagated the false “anthropology” of tribal peoples in his “Communist Manifesto” (I urge you to read Marx’s Communist Manifesto for yourself).
Anthropology and archaelogy do not in fact support Marx’s ethnocentric view of Native social structure. Tribal societies did not in fact function like the Socialist dictatorship envisioned by Marx.
The above comment was supposed to be a reply to “North of 60” — didn’t work for some reason.