Hear my prayer: “the San Francisco County [plastic bag] ban is associated with a 46 percent increase in deaths from food-borne illnesses.”
h/t Kevin B
Hear my prayer: “the San Francisco County [plastic bag] ban is associated with a 46 percent increase in deaths from food-borne illnesses.”
h/t Kevin B
Here’s the paper, in case anyone is interested.
I went shopping this weekend at Toys R Us, where I was asked if I’d like to spend five cents toward a bag. Carrying a kid and a bunch of small items, I of course said I’d like a bag.
After, I was at my local Shoppers Drug Mart and noticed on the receipt that they too charge five cents per plastic bag.
Lovely, that.
How much of that money is used by these corporations to generate income to be used as charitable-based tax write-offs?
That’s OK. The fish are now living and the people are dieing. That’s alright with me if the people are typical Kalifornica libruls.
Got that stupid bag ban up north, I love telling the liberal nitwits who forced it into law, that they are directly culpable when the next outbreak occurs.
Nobody washes those cloth plague carriers, the germs they mate and mix at the grocery store, then fester in a nice warm cupboard and repeat.
And the consequence is more durable garbage bags being purchased and then thrown in dump, the thicker bags should only take an extra few hundred years to decompose.
“…associated with a 46 percent increase in deaths from food-borne illnesses.”…”
Could be worse. I mean they can still but their dope in baggies, right?
I recall “Polution Probe” etc blocking adoption of biodegradable plastic for garbage bags. Their justification was this biodegrable plastic frustrated recycling……
Now……who recycles garbage bags?
Sure but if the Liberal Left can save the life of just one bacteria, just one small colony of E. coli, isn’t it worth it?
Jeez, E-Coli on sacks in San Francisco.
Who’d have guessed?
I prefer using cloth bags, but only because they don’t rip halfway across the parking lot sending your groceries everywhere. I wash them between uses so I doubt I’m reducing my carbon footprint any. It’s mainly about me not having to skitter across icy pavement chasing a canned ham that has eloped.
He dose not want to ignore climate change for the children but and its a big but it is okay to saddle them with the most debt the universe has known.
On another note I wonder if David named after a car wet himself when he read or heard this dribble.
oops should been posted under Obama’s speech about environment.
We need shopping bags registered and people who wish to use their own bags licensed. We need bag police testing personal shopping bags at grocery stores entrances!!!!
$1000.00 fines to owners of any bags guilty of having bacteria. Children should be removed for offender’s homes.
All offenders should wave their rights to search and seizure including their vehicles and residences.
This NEEDS to be done for their own protection and public safety.
Nobody washes those cloth plague carriers
Smart people do, dumb people who don’t might get sick, so what? It’s just Darwin cleaning the shallow end of the gene pool.
You can’t make the world idiot proof, human nature will always provide a better idiot.
Apparently ‘smart’ people like things as inconvenient as possible.
We first put ALL produce in the available free clear plastic bags, make sure meat is not leaking, accept the credit for using our cloth bags, and keep the bags in the (lately usually sub-zero) car trunk between shopping trips. No problems so far.
Er… maybe the solution is informing people to start washing their bags every now and again? Crazy, I know, but it’s possible, since we already wash things like plates, cutlery, and underwear, but no. The answer is to just keep using plastic bags. Maybe we could all just move to using disposable plates because they must be safer, right?
And where is the study? Who are these dudes who made the link? A law professor hardly seems qualified to make this claim. Perhaps the rise in cases is due to unwashed bags, or perhaps other factors like Republican cuts to the FDA.
This sounds like the perfect post to use the header: “The Sound of Settle Science”
John >
Its better I think to just inform the authorities when you find someone in noncompliance.
Janet Napolitano’s Homeland Security should set up another Hotline specifically for these domestic terrorists.
Bags should be registered and owners Licensed.
This is Kalifornia after all.
Bags should be registered and owners Licensed.
Absolutely, and wrapped in plastic when not in use…:)
stradivarious >
“….and wrapped in plastic when not in use”
Great idea!
I think they should all be forced to go out and buy expensive steel safes to store their biohazard weapons as well.
They should have background checks, and family doctors should report any potential “mental health issues” they think their patients may have to the government.
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In our household we have always used the plastic grocery bags for room size garbage can liners. Now we have to buy plastic bags for said cans. The entire logic from Gaya’s standpoint eludes me. I do understand the power trips these elected morons go on to satisfy their bloated egos.
Yes, yes, a thousand times yes!
What the hell is everyone else using for garbage bags?
The latest liberal meme-du-jour (for those of you on Twitter) is to whine that American conservatives who can read and understand the Constitution (and specifically the Second Amendment) are putting “guns over people.”
They say the same thing about corporations (“profits over people”) and energy exploration (“oil over people”).
But when their ideologies — environmentalism, economics — damage lives and kill people, they’re suddenly mum on the whole “X over people” thing.
north-of-60 said: “Nobody washes those cloth plague carriers”
“Smart people do, dumb people who don’t might get sick, so what? It’s just Darwin cleaning the shallow end of the gene pool.”
Not picking on you N-60, but I hear this thing a lot. “Just wash the bag!” they say.
We’re talking about a government -ban- here, not something people do by choice. In the People’s Republik of Kalifornia, you don’t get to pay extra for plastic. You get to use what they TELL you, and shut the h3ll up about it.
Thing is, not -everybody- has a washing machine in their home. Many, many people have to use laundromats, sometimes the bathtub/sink and a box of Tide. In my miss-spent youth, that was me. I fondly remember the first place I lived with a washing machine of my own.
Two things with the bags.
First, do you want to be washing your underwear in a machine some lady just took a bunch of grocery bags out of? Do you want to be washing your grocery bags after some guy’s underwear? Seriously, soap doesn’t kill -everything-.
Second, isn’t a government that’s decided they need to control what kind of bag you shall schlep your groceries in very close to being a much bigger problem than an e-coli outbreak? When is it too much? When they chose your transportation for you? When they chose your food?
How about when they chose if you even get food?
Er… maybe the solution is informing people to start washing their bags every now and again? Crazy, I know, but it’s possible, since we already wash things like plates, cutlery, and underwear, but no. The answer is to just keep using plastic bags. Maybe we could all just move to using disposable plates because they must be safer, right?
Exactly. People learned how to safely handle chicken without contaminating their kitchen with salmonella as well as learning other basic food safety issues. This is a consumer education issue. Nobody is restricting your precious ‘freedom’.
People who insist on having plastic grocery bags can buy whatever bags they want. They’re sold as small garbage bags.
[plastic bag] ban is associated with a 46 percent increase in deaths from food-borne illnesses.”
it’s only killing stupid people, a net positive gain for society if it gets them before they reproduce.
Black Mamba said: “What the hell is everyone else using for garbage bags?”
Those frigging reusable cloth things they keep giving me at stores periodically. Every once in a while, there’s a “special” and a bag comes with.
Makes an awesome single use can liner. I use them in the shop for all manner of oily rags, spent oilsorb and other horrible toxic sh1t I don’t want to sully the disposable 5 gallon plastic paint bucket with. Then I put it in a plastic bag in case it leaks.
Because I’m just a evil b@st@rd that way.
not -everybody- has a washing machine in their home.
then wash them in the kitchen sink and rinse with a bit of bleach in the water. It’s basic kitchen hygiene not rocket science. As I said before this ‘dirty bag issue’ only effects stupid people, so why worry about it. We can’t make the world idiot proof, human nature will always provide a better idiot.
Second, isn’t a government that’s decided they need to control what kind of bag you shall schlep your groceries in very close to being a much bigger problem than an e-coli outbreak? When is it too much? When they chose your transportation for you? When they chose your food? How about when they chose if you even get food?
God is obviously punishing America by not opening up the San Andreas Fault and letting it slide into the Pacific.
BTW, has anyone heard of the Great Pacific Garbage Patch?
It’s a floating garbage dump between California and Hawaii and is estimated to be anywhere from twice the size of Texas, to twice the size of the continental US.
“Estimates of size range from 700,000 square kilometres (270,000 sq mi) to more than 15,000,000 square kilometres (5,800,000 sq mi) (0.41% to 8.1% of the size of the Pacific Ocean), or, in some media reports, up to “twice the size of the continental United States”” – Wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch
There are some neat documentaries on it as well, just Goggle or Utube.
Second, isn’t a government that’s decided they need to control what kind of bag you shall schlep your groceries in very close to being a much bigger problem than an e-coli outbreak? When is it too much? When they chose your transportation for you? When they chose your food? How about when they chose if you even get food?
Taking something to ridiculous extremes is an invalid argument.
north_of_60, the plastic bag campaign is just a test to see how gullible and lemming-like the world’s humanoids are. Plus, the World Wildlife Fund is building up its coffers with the proceeds. Canadian Tire’s ECO bags are made in China. Pristine? I doubt it.
the Great Pacific Garbage Patch is a monument to human stupidity and irresponsibility.
addressing someone personally on a public forum is foolish grandstanding
Interesting Knight99
“Logically the land based sources of pollutants and plastics come from the great rivers from around the world. The Ganges in India is an example of a source of major sea pollution Pollution of the Ganges. The pollution levels in places like Bangladesh or Nigeria are more examples of pollution sources. It has been noted that the levels of pollution in and around these rivers constitute a major health hazard to people living and doing business around the water.” Wiki.
So…as a small country of 34 million, we recycle. They don’t. Something wrong with this picture. India has a billion people and still use their rivers as dumps. Why has Elizabeth May never mentioned this ? Where is the UN’s Agenda 21 in all this? Suzuki ? Gore’s carbon tax ? The MSM ? OH…I know….they would just tell them all to F*ck off. That could hurt their feelings.
“addressing someone personally on a public forum is foolish grandstanding”
? How personal could ‘north_of_60’ be?
peterj >
He he absolutely.
Here is a short but good summary speech about the Oceans Plastic problem.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=FrAShtolieg
No doctor fruit flies when there’s no money to be made.
Hmmm, I would have thought California’s unchecked illegal immigration from Meh-hi-co would have caused this.
File under “dirty hippies?”