The Sun News Network page on Facebook provides for interesting reading from a wide variety of commenters. Reading through many of the comments from the recent stories about Justin Trudeau and David McGuinty, one is struck by two things:
- No matter what the political topic, there appear to be a plethora of Canadians whose lives seem mostly energized by one thing: A deep-seated hatred for Stephen Harper. It would be most interesting to learn the findings after these folks had a few sessions on a psychiatrist’s couch. Perhaps that would explain why they spend oodles of time & energy espousing their hatred of Harper at every opportunity and on every venue. So weird.
- Those in Western Canada who are unphased by a politician (Trudeau) who clearly & calmly said that Canada belongs to Quebec, following on the footsteps of another politician (McGuinty) from his same party who said that politicians representing Albertans are too small minded to make the really big decisions about Canada.
They can spin these quotes any which way they want – saying they were taken out of context or didn’t really mean what they said or whatever – but any reasonable person knows that these words were coming directly from their core hard drives and precisely represent their innermost thoughts.
How ANYONE in Western Canada can cast a vote for a party represented by the likes of Trudeau & McGuinty is truly an example of cognitive dissonance.
Harper represents a government wanting people to be responsible for themselves and the consequences of their actions. Terrifying.
They need to change the name of the party to the Quebec Party which would be more accurate.
Well L, for the most part I agree. Though there are several bills and laws that I strongly disagree with that the government of the day has either tried to get passed, or has passed. Most of those revolve around copyright issues, and copyright reforms. Being that we already have stringent laws on them, there’s no reason to change them to suit the US(which we did).
Some Western Canadians voted for Mr. Trudeau in 1968. Trudeau spent his time as Prime Minister throwing our trust in him in our faces. The media party manipulates the message to hide what really happened to all of western Canada in those years.
Three thoughts about Liberal or the left…
For a liberal history starts every morning!
A liberal is someone who’s own interests are not at stake at the moment!
Liberals are so “open minded”…their brains have fallen out.
That explains everything.
Two comments:
1. The Liberals need to change their name to the Liberal Pork Party of Canada (LPPC) to reflect their true attitude.
2. I’ve long held the opinion that I will NOT vote for any party led by someone who isn’t from West of Ontario. That leaves out ALL of Eastern Canada.
I actually would love to hear from a federal Liberal supporter in Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, or B.C. How can you support a party in which two of its prominent higher-ups have stated unequivocally that the fate of you, as a Western Canadian, is to be ruled by those in Ontario or Quebec?
If you agree with sentiment, why? Did you move out West from the East and still believe in the supremacy of Eastern Canadians over their Western sisters & brothers?
At every venue the comments re Harper are of the “frothing -at-the-mouth” variety. I’ve had the opportunity to question WHY some liberals hate Harper,the answer is usually a repeat of the MSM’s headlines/talking points,”destroying democracy”, “fascist”, “selling Canada to China”,etc.
Beyond that, they have nothing to say, no reasonable explanation.
When they ask,”why do you hate Justin”? My reply,”I don’t. I just don’t think the man has the experience,knowledge, or intelligence to lead a political Party or a Country.”
Now,I’d add,”and he’s shown he’s a Quebec elitist,anti-Western Canada bigot, just like the rest of the Quebec Liberals”.
Canada DOES NOT “belong to Quebec”, but they DO owe us BIG TIME,and we’ll never collect.
No, Eli, the new copyright law is in line with decisions of the Supreme Court of Canada and makes precise and greatly extends
the principle of fair use. It is a godsend to academics and students all across Canada, and has saved us from the fangs of Access Copyright.
As far as scholarly use is concerned, C-11 is the best thing that has ever happened in Canada, especially when coupled with one or two
recent Supreme Court decisions.
As for whether it makes it easier (cheaper) to watch porn and vulgar music videos, I don’t know and couldn’t care less.
Let’s see how Calgary center votes on monday. That should tell us everything.
L at November 24, 2012 1:11 PM
and that is the essence of conservatism, lefties want the gov’t to do everything for them, with your dollar
cognitive dissonance?
I would call it blatant stupidity, Rob.
So “free” Quebec. Problem solved.
The lefts venom is always spilling over.
Look how the commenters reacted when the thought Romney had a chance to win. everything form assasination to burning this Motha F—pr down.
What great examples for the youth who are being guided by far left teachers and Professors.
dmorris and robert – yes, I find it astounding, the frothing, rabid screaming hatred of Harper that one finds in the comments section of such as the Globe and Mail, CBC and etc. It is so irrational, so intense, constantly calling him ‘fascist, dictator, evil’.
And when one askes ‘why’, there’s no rational answer. When one asks, what is fascist about him, there are no answers, just the attacks turn against me, the questioner.
Sometimes, they’ll come up with ‘he wants to stop abortions and he’s against gay marriage’. That’s all I’ve ever heard. The fact that Harper refuses to allow these social issues to become the topic in his government – is utterly ignored. When told this, the rebuttal is ‘but, when he gets the power, that’s what he’ll do’.
When one brings up the only topics to which Harper devotes himself, namely, the economy, establishing more trade networks for Canadian businesses, transportation, etc, etc – they have absolutely no idea what the federal govt does in these areas.
As for Justin Trudeau, an ignorant, arrogant and totally inexperienced pop star – if he’s chosen by the Liberals that will show that they are choosing media pop star appeal over policies and programs. Fine, they’ve always been like that. But, apart from the West, they have one other niggling little problem. Mulcair and the NDP. Mulcair is ruthless; it might be fun to watch him go after Justin.
How ANYONE in ONTARIO can cast a vote for a party represented by the likes of Trudeau & McGuinty is truly an example of cognitive dissonance.
There, fixed that for you.
The national Media has been acting as the Harvey Locke cheer leading squad since the Calgary Centre by-election began.
What would the media reaction be if it was this way?
In November 2010 Harper told an Alberta television show that he was tired of Quebecers running the country and that, whether it was John Diefenbaker or Arthur Meighan, Canada is better when westerners are running the country.
“Canada isn’t doing well right now because its Quebecers who control our community and socio-democratic agenda. It doesn’t work,” Harper said in English to interviewer Patrich LaGlace on the Tele-Hick program Les Huskies are Wild.
LeGlace Asked Harper if he thought Canada was “better served when there are more Albertans in charge than Poutine gobbling surrender weasels?”
Harper replied: I’m a conservative, so of course I think so, yes. Certainly when we look at the great prime ministers of the 20th century, those who really stood the test of cliches, they were MPs from the West…This country, Canada, – it belongs to us.”
What would the reaction of the lefty fifth column then?
ET @ 2:44 PM, great comment,spot on.
Haven’t heard a better description of Justin Trudeau.
peterj- I would caution against reading too much into the Calgary Center by-election results. This federal riding’s boundaries encompass’ the whole of the provincial riding of Calgary/Buffalo. Provincially, Calgary/Buffalo has a long history of backing red tories and Liberals. The current CPC candidate, Joan Crockatt, represents the Reform/WRA wing of the conservative movement and as such, IMHO, started the campaign without the advantage of party incumbency. As a matter of fact the CPC nomination process was one of the bloodier fights in recent memory. Calgary Center is probably the reddest riding in Calgary. That said, Dave and Justin have done their damnedest to give Joan a leg up.
The East thinks of us as just colonies as England did America. For 8 years now like the USA did we have been slowly making the West into an economic bloc. Where we can trade ,Have the Priemiers meet on political issues, & allow cross border certification. All in preperation for the day we know is coming when Centeral Canada comes alooting yet again. The ground work for total seperation has already been done. They live in a fairyland if they think to enforce there rule on us again while gorging themselveson our Resources.
Its why they have people like Redford sent out here as scouts to imobilize us.As they once did the RCMP.
It won’t work once people see the contempt from the EAst & its political legions marching.
Lets not over egg the pudding here. Federal Liberal rule was good for western Canada in the 1990s. McGuinty has been tossed, Trudeau is not yet leader although his comments are certainly disturbing and if the Liberals nominate him they can forget about the west.
Which isn’t necessarily good. The West would benefit from having something to ‘offer’ and take away from the Trudeau Liberals should they form government as opinion polls show they will.
Polling data for elections three years out is almost as accurate as temperature projections thirty years out.
ET. Mulclair and Trudeau have the same sentiment for Quebec. Trudeau bashed alberta while Mulclair slam the ‘essence’ to Canada’s economy- the Alberta’s oilsands and his party want to shut down the oilsands completely. Mulclair to show how much he is still part of Quebec and for Quebec alone issued a request from the fed government, ‘two budgets’-one for Quebec and one for the ROC.
Mulclair must be ecstatic that a liberal like Trudeau favours Quebec which a coalition rather than any bickering would help each other for the ‘LOVE’ and probably Quebec’s seperation.
I live in Calgary: Calgary Centre will vote either Green or Liberal on Monday, but not Conservative. The political Party that would really represent these people living in that riding or others like it in Canada, hasn’t been birthed yet.
Occupy isn’t it, but something close to it.
syncrodox at November 24, 2012 2:56 PM
Agree , but still Albertans. I don’t know the demographic make up of Calgary Center but if it’s like Vancouver East end and home of the druggies/gays/societal losers and escapees from mental institutions, then you would think they would be drawn to the NDP as the Liberals have no status and can only offer a Shiny Pony. Why vote for the pretty boy’s empty basket and promises when he is not in a position to do anything ? Can they really be that dense ?
yeah well don’t put so much credibility in polls.
US polls were inaccurate because they had no anticipation that 126.87% of dead people would vote early for the “won” (sarc/)…
I think even the donkeys were surprised at the results…and to a point embarrassed…..
Polls are not guages/estimates of opinion. They are poorly disguised propaganda. Advertising people are those who have the least respect for polling.
@ Po’ed
I think you answered my question.
peterj- The analogy to Vancouver East is probably as accurate as any. As Po’ed in AB notes, the GPC candidate is probably as likely as the LPC candidate to win. Joan Crockatt, as a Reform/WRA type conservative was always going to face a tough battle in this riding, especially considering this is a by-election. I worked for a NGO in this riding some years ago and many of the usual grasroots lefty special interest groups would hold meetings in the facility. In short…they are that dense.
Who is this waste of tax dollar Liberal Party anyway?
Forget the honorable Stephan Harpers nation saving party, the last I checked even the loony left NDP party of druggies, welfare abusers , and communists had them beat back somewhere into the dusty pages of Canadian criminal history.
Do these Liberals actually have any seats? If so someone should call the RCMP and investigate them, no doubt their doing something illegal.
Divide and conquer. Fear and class envy/warfare.
Worked for Barry.
I can see where the crazies are going with this.
US polls were inaccurate because they had no anticipation that 126.87% of dead people would vote early for the “won” (sarc/)…
Do you want a Kleenex? Here have one. Now listen up: the polls were exceedingly accurate and Nate Silver (PBUH) was more so. DEAL WITH IT.
Crockett has actually said that it’s her job to support Harper in everything he does. I think Canada has enough of these automatons in parliament. I could vote for her and I’m gladly not.
There’s still the matter of taxpayers $100 million stolen under Cretin’s watch.
Yes…Stolen.
Been a while since I mentioned that. I’m slipping.
Robert; I believe the following link goes a long way to explaining such behaviour. While the article deals with an Islamist kind of cultist thinking it also rather aptly describes the mentality of a “Harper Hater”. They have been programmed to tune out reality.
http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2012/10/25/the-cult-that-plans-to-kill-you/?singlepage=true
Canada needs another referendum for Quebec separation!
You are now older and wiser, once bitten and twice shy, so this time around don’t waste your bloody vote. Get them the hell out of here!
@ LAS at November 24, 2012 3:46 PM
And the Liberals , NDP don’t have the same automatoms in Parliament ?
Let me guess LAS…doubling up the GPC caucus is in order?
No. None of these clowns deserve support.
“No matter what the political topic, there appear to be a plethora of Canadians whose lives seem mostly energized by one thing: A deep-seated hatred for Stephen Harper. ”
Robert, I’ve noticed the same thing and I find it very troubling. I don’t understand the hatred of Harper. Indeed I think it is almost a form of racism against conservatives.
LAS, the only wons needing a kleenex are the 62 Percent who don’t want to take responsibility for the errors of their ways, be it socially or economically. They are the automatons who want government, any government, to solve their life’s expectations – at their neighbor’s expense. That includes you LAS. As one of the neighbors to be fleeced.
All we have heard in Canada, since the Conservatives won, is that they shouldn’t have. It is beyond the 62 Percent’s comprehension that they actually “won” and they have been trying through any means possible to reverse that reality since. Conservatives in power is “un-natural” in their POV. They rage like spoiled, two year olds, their antics are juvenile and they contribute little to the national debate be tired, old central Canadian group-think. They are broke, bankrupt and morally bereft of any reasonable conversation on how to run this country, other than for their own local benefit, using other people’s money. They don’t have any.
The Cons aren’t the best, but they are the best on offer for any rationally thinking person. As a libertarian none of the above suit your POV, so WTF are you doing here extolling the Liberals or Green or NDP virtues over the Conservatives? You haven’t contributed any ideas on how to do things differently, just typical Downtown Ontario snipe, snipe, snivel. You’d be more comfortable posting with like minded folks at Rabble.ca sport.
All very well said Po’ed with one exception…I figure LAS is a juxtapositional goldmine…
A friend in the US lamented prior to the Nov 6 election that “There are people here who would vote for Idi Amin if he was on the ticket” … ditto for anyone named Trudeau in Canada it seems.
With regard for the left hate of PM Harper , I believe it represents the failure of their beloved Liberal Party losing the last election , which they have not reconciled.
Another reason is that many on the left become depressed that a utopia can never be created , and thus they want to destroy everything out of spite. Their Canadian utopia was endless rule by the Liberal Party , which did not happen . They cannot destroy PM Harper which enrages them to spew the hate.
Watch for CTV (which may as well be a proxy agency for the Liberals ) to become the MSNBC of the north come the next election .
SYNCRODOX: LAS is that. Actually, LAS uses the same “talking points” that the Harper-haters use to talk down to anyone espousing the Conservative POV. They cross all political boundaries on that side of the equation.
So, he ain’t no Libertarian. He/she/it IS a 62 Percenter.
@LAS…didn’t you say you could vote in Calgary Center..?..have you been voter suppressed?
Po’ed…I’m with ya there…unclear on the meaning of libertarianism…hence the goldmine..;-)
Libertarianism = Occupy
In theory I would posit the opposite but in practice that’s a viable definition…
Syncro: Think a dodgy set of rules if any, changing by the moment and go from there.
I have never understood the great disconnect between Canadians and Mr. Harper. Could I venture that Canadians, being politically immature, have always, in their shame at not being American, had some great need of a super hero or pretty face or other shallow paladin to lead us. Personally, I am not in need of a friend, nor those here, but in need of a good administrator with “common sense”, something that is, these days, very uncommon.
I don’t understand the hatred of Harper. Indeed I think it is almost a form of racism against conservatives.
While a chunk of the Harper hatred is irrational it does not excuse the persecution complex you people have. The projection here is also pretty strong; HarperBots are as committed in their devotion as Obamabots.
so WTF are you doing here extolling the Liberals or Green or NDP virtues over the Conservatives?
I’m not. I guess you’re one of the posters here that lacks basic reading comprehension.
If the 62% are takers who want ever more from the government, then Harper and the CPC are part of the 62%. Government has only grown in scope and size under Father Steve’s watch and it only will.