So, given this, doesn’t that then mean the opposite of this?
The importance of the loss of sea ice is twofold – first, it shows undeniable evidence of global warming, and second, it reduces albedo.
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Polar ice reduction during warmer summer months is proof of anthropogenic global warming and climate change. Polar ice expanding during colder winter months is just the weather.
These idiots on the left will point to a rock casting a shadow and claim that it constitutes proof of climate change.
I’m sure they even claim capitalists in SUV’s are the reason for deep dry cracks on Uranus.
I found the ‘scientific’ opening sentence, “The Arctic Ice is preparing itself for a large reduction in sea ice area this summer.” rather telling. And that was as far as I could get.
Mike T
rock is wet = rain
rock is white = snow
rock is hot = sunny
rock is cool = cloudy
Reality is probably more complex than bloggers on either side could easily fathom. The increase in ice this season is mainly in the Sea of Okhotsk and Bering Seas which have shown faster ice accumulation than previous winters due to extreme cold in their vicinity. The situation over the larger Arctic Ocean basis remains fairly static from year to year. It is true that we are in a 20-30 year period of relatively low ice extent. The main reason for this is probably sooty deposition from eastern Asia. Political processes at work ask those countries to do very little while asking developed countries to cut back on greenhouse gases. This will have almost no effect on trends. The only right answer in all the conflicting and confusing white noise would be to require better air quality standards in eastern Asia. That would be like asking alcoholics to stop drinking. Good luck with it. But on the larger scale, I don’t think these processes can totally flip the climate over and so we will probably survive with sea levels generally stable. In other words, the whole business is much ado about nothing.
So that’s what’s been reducing my albedo. Here I thought my testosterone levels were getting low.
@ foobert 2:24 PM The Y2K problem is the electronic equivalent of the El Niño and there will be nasty surprises around the globe.
John Hamre, United States Deputy Secretary of Defense
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2000_problem
// So, given this, doesn’t that then mean the opposite of this? //
Nope
The ice maximum in the winter months has little effect on albedo because the sun ain’t shining up there. [& where is is the angles are small]
In the summer, the less ice the more heat absorption, because open water has a much lower albedo than snow & ice.
That curve will turn downward this month.
I’m getting confused. Last week they were attributing the extreme cold in Europe and Asia to the lack of arctic sea ice.
Polar ice reduction during warmer summer months is proof of anthropogenic global warming and climate change. Polar ice expanding during colder winter months is just the weather.
These idiots on the left will point to a rock casting a shadow and claim that it constitutes proof of climate change.
I’m sure they even claim capitalists in SUV’s are the reason for deep dry cracks on Uranus.
I miss Y2K.
No wait, we just had an incident just this last week.
Microsoft’s Azure cloud leap-day meltdown
I found the ‘scientific’ opening sentence, “The Arctic Ice is preparing itself for a large reduction in sea ice area this summer.” rather telling. And that was as far as I could get.
Mike T
rock is wet = rain
rock is white = snow
rock is hot = sunny
rock is cool = cloudy
Reality is probably more complex than bloggers on either side could easily fathom. The increase in ice this season is mainly in the Sea of Okhotsk and Bering Seas which have shown faster ice accumulation than previous winters due to extreme cold in their vicinity. The situation over the larger Arctic Ocean basis remains fairly static from year to year. It is true that we are in a 20-30 year period of relatively low ice extent. The main reason for this is probably sooty deposition from eastern Asia. Political processes at work ask those countries to do very little while asking developed countries to cut back on greenhouse gases. This will have almost no effect on trends. The only right answer in all the conflicting and confusing white noise would be to require better air quality standards in eastern Asia. That would be like asking alcoholics to stop drinking. Good luck with it. But on the larger scale, I don’t think these processes can totally flip the climate over and so we will probably survive with sea levels generally stable. In other words, the whole business is much ado about nothing.
So that’s what’s been reducing my albedo. Here I thought my testosterone levels were getting low.
@ foobert 2:24 PM
The Y2K problem is the electronic equivalent of the El Niño and there will be nasty surprises around the globe.
John Hamre, United States Deputy Secretary of Defense
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2000_problem
// So, given this, doesn’t that then mean the opposite of this? //
Nope
The ice maximum in the winter months has little effect on albedo because the sun ain’t shining up there. [& where is is the angles are small]
In the summer, the less ice the more heat absorption, because open water has a much lower albedo than snow & ice.
That curve will turn downward this month.
I’m getting confused. Last week they were attributing the extreme cold in Europe and Asia to the lack of arctic sea ice.