Kelly McParland eviscerates the Idiotic Left in this hilarious column.
51 Replies to “The Conservatives’ Super Secret Anti-Gay Agenda”
The comments are priceless to,Robert. Some people(leftards in particular) must have had their humor/sarcasm detecting gland removed at birth,along with their frontal lobes.
If you are gay the best course of action to take is by flying to Saudi Arabia with your “partner” to make out in protest on the front steps of Mecca. The Canadian government will then step in if there is any trouble.
There shouldn’t be trouble anyway, after all gays do support and stand by Hamas when they march in Canadian streets demanding Israel and Harpers blood. In the loving world of rainbow dreams void of heterosexual white males everyone has everyone else’s back, you’ll do just fine.
“I didn’t know it could possibly come out of mouths of one of our Conservative government members,” she said. “Kudos to Mr. Baird for stepping up.”
Some people can’t even acknowledge an action with which they totally agree without taking a cheap shot at the current government. What a complete lack of class!
Helen Kennedy, executive director of Egale Canada, said she was both “stunned” and “delighted”
“Stunned” is a fitting adjective in this case, however probably not in the sense that Ms. Kennedy had in mind.
And Harper’s secret agenda is so cleverly concealed that after many years, we still don’t know about it
That piece seemed like a spoof. I cannot believe that an alleged scribe with a (more or less) serious publication would be so stupid as to write such a thing. What he wrote was something one would expect as a comment on a Lefty Hate Site.
Okay, I get it .. it is a spoof. Everything is so screwed these days it’s hard to tell what’s serious and what a joke.
No doubt the Ministry Responsible for Fairy Dust and Unicorns will be weighing in at any moment.
Cheers
Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
What’s secret about Harper’s agenda regarding gays?
One of the first things his minority government did when it gained power in 2006 was to have a free vote in parliament on same sex marriage.
Since SSM had just been voted in by Paul Martin’s minority government it was a slam dunk to be unheld by the majority of MPs when Harper’s minority came to power.
Thus Harper could claim to have fulfilled his promise for a free vote and put the SSM issue to rest with his social conservative base as permanent losers in the equation.
That homos and Lefties(not to be redundant) still pretend the CPC has an anti-gay agenda is as laughable as CPC supporters pretending the CPC has a Conservative agenda.
The CPC are populist with a vaguely libertarian bent.
You spelled liberal as libertarian Oz
You spelled liberal as libertarian Oz
Liberals would never repeal the gun registry, section 13 of the CHRC, or pull out of Kyoto.
Those were libertarian actions, as is support for homosexual rights.
I agree with biff(1:35). When Helen Kennedy, executive director of Egale Canada a Toronto based human rights organization for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people, says “I didn’t know it could possibly come out of mouths of one of our Conservative government members…” it shows quite clearly that bigotry knows no bounds. Despite the lefts sincere belief that they carry a natural immunity from catching it!
Nambla is waiting patiently for all this to be resolved so that they can join the warmth and love offered by liberal society. Nature abhors a vacuum and they just know they are next in line. http://www.nambla.org/bulletin.html
Nature abhors a vacuum and they just know they are next in line.
Polygamists are next in line.
They have the backing of more than one protected religious sect, have a cultural history, and produce mucho offspring which require economic support/services provided by legislative legitimacy.
Additionally, polygamy would embrace bisexual groupings of 3 or more adults which are logically the next step after plain vanilla SSM limited by the number ‘2’.
Baby steps.
Could be true ,but Nambla is a bigger perversion and therefore will get greater sympathy from the liberal media. Anyway,..polygamists are probably content with the status Quo. Look at the happy children and wives in Bountyful.
What don’t people get about Conservatives being the party of human rights? Homosexuals should have every right to practice their perversion just as I have a right to believe it is a perversion.
peterj >
Polygamy defamation is all in the eyes of religious and racial bigotry.
The Mormons and other Christian polygamist groups are vile freaks in society worthy of genocide; Islamic polygamy on the other hand is an honoured cultural tradition to the Liberal left.
Scar >
“….just as I have a right to believe it is a perversion.”
There it is in a nutshell.
I would add that the Gay Rights advocates also have no right to force their particular fetishes or lifestyles on my defenceless children in schools. It is my right to disagree and protect my children from their peculiar ideologies in a government institution that I help pay to even exist.
If gays want a school for their own children to drone in whatever psychological babble outside of core academics, they should start their own and pay for it.
@ Knight99
OOhhh,……..low blow to Romney. Look at the money he spent on adds stating he is just like you and me. With a little more in the bank of course , but otherwise identical.
Peterj >
Naw not really, it is what it is. I could care less if Romney was Mormon; they seem like pretty decent hardworking people if you can just get your head around the crazy religious belief system at their core. It’s sort of an enigma to me because they seem so grounded otherwise.
Islam on the other hand is a direct threat to our existence. I also could care less for their polygamy freakishness, aside from the political protections they receive from the left including the multiple welfare check fraud that gets a Liberal pass because they are generally “brown and would hate us even more if we didn’t”.
*For what it’s worth, every presidential candidate outside of a close maybe with Ron Paul is a sign of the wreckage the USA has become. Including Obamba et al…….
@ Knight99
I agree completely. No longer the world I grew up in. We have to adapt but don’t have to like or accept it. Mormon beliefs seem trivial when I compare it to Islam.
You can’t adapt to Islam. No Nation in history has. You either submit to its Sharia law with Muslim supremacy, or die. Islam has no Nations but the Ummah, embodied in a Caliphate. It has no senses of culture beyond the Koran. All the Nations you see in the Middle East where made up by the British & French.
Islam is anti-Nationalist.
It has no senses of culture beyond the Koran.
~Revnant Dream
And from there we can bring the discussion full circle back to the CPC’s secret agenda regarding homos by observing that the Arab hegemonic culture of the Koranimals is on a collision course with the new rights of non-traditional sexual practitioners.(a certain narrowly defined polygamist view excepted)
Stop lumping all gays together. Most gays i know work in the oil industry or other similar industries, and vote conservative. “Gay rights” activists speak for all gays like PETA speaks for all animal lovers.
Stop lumping gays together with child molesters and polygamists. It’s so dumb as to be too stupid to talk about. You are curious why people expect the conservatives to repeal ssm or be against gay rights, it’s because of comments like these on these sites. It’s unfortunate that the silent majority of Conservative voters don’t argue against the small number of bigots like knight99, hans, and peterj.
As for schools, they should teach math, sciences, languages and history without ANY sex education or gay interest crap or whatever. That should be saved for home. They should also avoid politics, global warming should not be taught as fact, and creationism should be left for home as well.
wo of the posters here who get it right are Oz and Scar. Oz is correct about the libertarinism of this whole situation and Scar is right that he has the right to his opinion but I have the right to my mine. That’s what this country is all about.
Funny how the only country in the world they can actually point to for having “an anti-Gay agenda” is Uganda. Although they mention “the Caribbean”, no one can actually name any country in the Caribbean where the persecution of homosexuals is systematized. There’s a reason for that: in fact, Caribbean culture is quite “laissez faire” about everything — whether underground economies, marijuana use, or consensual Gay sex, nobody worries about these things.
The “Gay persecution” narrative is usually a red herring, and it’s a red herring just about everywhere else in the world; except, the elephant in the room that the media refuses to talk about: THEOCRATIC ISLAM — the only culture in the world where Gays are not only systematically persecuted but can be legally and publically executed.
And stop saying homos and know that most gays didn’t march in support of Hamas and aren’t in support of Hamas. Most gays support Israel, recognizing that the Jewish people have historically been discriminated against, just like gays have.
ricardo, how about you do some research instead of making yourself look ignorant. I’m not very informed on this situation but I can point to other countries, yes even in the carribbean, where enforced laws discriminate against gays. Yes gays are persecuted in Islamic countries, and yes they are persecuted in Africa and yes they are persecuted in the Carribbean and many other places all over the world every single day. People are dying, but because you only read about one situation in one article doesn’t mean that bs isn’t going on.
steven burton >
The only obvious bigot here is you.
None of my comments towards gays was malicious, and I have a right to not care for their lifestyles any more than you care for mine.
I will call BS on the gays in the oilfield comment you made. I’ve worked in the oilfield for over 30 years across the globe, and never once has someone openly identified themselves as gay to me or anyone else I know. Not that they don’t exist to be sure, but they for certain do not proudly advertize the fact, as you suggest.
Therefore I believe you are being disingenuous and pushing a gay agenda with BS.
You are correct about the core curriculums in schools; I believe that was my point as well. As far as your silent majority conservative spout, understand that is why we are slipping into this Liberal Left mess in the first place. That is why conservatives that you want to so casually label as bigots are indeed starting to stand up and voice their opinions, against the lazy roll over ones like your own.
The second post on this is yours Knight and it’s offensive and I will call it.
I’m pretty sure if this is how you talk I wouldn’t let you know I was “proudly” gay either you know. What gay agenda am I promoting exactly either? the only recommendation I made you agreed with..
We need to stand up and yell about big government spending and massive government programs. We need to shut up about small stuff like gay marriage and other bs that just leads us to losing elections.
I’d be more supportive of gays if they were less supportive of Islamofascists.
We all have the rights to our opinions, but don’t tell me to take my “partner” and fly to saudi arabia and make out on the steps of Mecca and I won’t call you a bigot.
I will admit I got a bit heated reading some of these comments, and there is no tone so it could be sarcasm or jokes but I can’t hear it. I know I just read an awesome and funny article and came here to my most visited site to feel very unwelcome. It’s the one issue in the Conservative “base” that gets me p/o’d and I honestly think that most Conservative voters don’t give a rat’s ass about same sex marriage.
steven burton at January 24, 2012 6:19 PM,
I think Steve has a point. We have no way of knowing if the anti-Israel people marching in Gay Pride are homosexual or are actually Palestinian radicals (who hate homesexuals) or their Left heterosexual sympathizers in the West, who have attached themselves to the parade to dissimulate the political motives. It would serve a dual purpose: to defame Israel, as well as to place the blame on the Gay community for said defamation, hence whipping up “homophobia”. Both purposes would clearly serve the interests of radical homophobic Islamists as well as any anti-Israel/anti-Semitic types on either the extreme Left or the extreme Right.
And how can you tell if anyone is actually homosexual? There’s no sure-fire way even if the person claims to be homosexual, they can be lying (unless they give a public demonstration by same-sex fornicating in the street — which is illegal). That’s the “catch 22” about Gay rights politics — it can easily be manipulated by any outside group for ulterior purposes.
There is no way of publically proving that one is actually a member of a particular gender/sex-based group, since sex occurs — ipso facto — in private between consenting adults.
Ellie, that’s why I’m rotted, the gay activists don’t speak for us, and just try shutting them up!?! I know quite a few gays. The activist type which takes an uninformed stance on things, supports islam – but I can’t figure why as they don’t support us back. Sadly, like most young people now adays a much larger group have no idea that islam and Israel don’t get along because they don’t read or watch news. And the embarassed majority of gays who want no part of either the stereotypical tv gay or the activist gay or whatever, who work hard and live life like most straight couples who post on this site. Who have more in common with you and Knight99 than any liberal straight couple. The last group, of which I am a part gets offended when we’re lumped in with Nambla or Polygamists or Beastiality. Heck even the term LBGT gets my goat cause I get gays and lesbians, but why crossdressers and body mutilation?
@ Steven Burton
I support your right to a free opinion. Mine is that I liked the whole subject better when it was closet material. Now it’s being shown as normal or even preferred in our school system. I will never see it as either and I’m not even religious.
steven burton at January 24, 2012 6:25 PM:
“ricardo, how about you do some research instead of making yourself look ignorant.”
Hold your horses buddy, I think I supported you — at least in principle.
But as far as “Caribbean” countries with systemic homophobia, you still haven’t named one. I happened to live there for many years…
Ricardo, thank you for supporting me. I wish I could believe that those marches had been co-opted by other interests, but I’m afraid I believe they are uninformed gays.
Jamaica is the answer to your question. I’ve even been warned about travelling there. Resorts are probably safe places all the same.
Peterj, I think we agree it should be kept out of schools. They should be places of fact, and not opinion.
At any rate, that article was hilarious lol. Sorry for spoiling the tone of everything. I’m just a guy and like all people I hate being lumped into a group that doesn’t represent me, just because I happen to share one characteristic of that group. I also very much hate when polygamy, and child molestation are lumped into a group with gays because I have even less in common with child molestation and polygamy than I do with most other gays.
Just seems to me that saying all gays are the same is like saying all capricorns are the same or all blacks are the same or all derrickhands are the same. Gay is a pretty minor part of what i think on the political field. My only recommendation to gay activists would be to work to repeal hate crime laws. If someone gets beat up there are already laws against assault on the books. The reason for the beating shouldn’t matter, the fact of the beating should.
@ steve burton: “The reason for the beating shouldn’t matter, the fact of the beating should.”
Agreed. But I would add one caviat to that: if the reason for the beating was official State policy, then you have a serious human rights problem. That’s what I meant by “systematized” — when the State endorses it, which is clearly against International human rights as understood by all constitutionally free democracies who are signatories.
Agreed Ricardo.
@ steven burton
Damnit, I’m starting to like you. Goes against my preconceived notions and new years resolution.
lmao Peterj. Honestly I like everybody here and agree with 90 percent of what gets posted on almost every topic. I just feel, as a gay male, I don’t have a voice – that it’e being co-opted by hollywood and activists.
The single 2 gay characters on TV that I ever liked were Brian and Steve from The Sarah Silverman Program because they have shitty jobs, live in filth, dress like losers, etc. Normal people!
steven burton >
“The second post on this is yours Knight and it’s offensive and I will call it.”
Yea, offensive to whom?
Do you really care if I’m offended seeing thousands of naked gay men parading in pink thongs dancing through the streets of Toronto in front of children? Then why should I care what offends you?
“…but don’t tell me to take my “partner” and fly to saudi arabia” – steven burton
Who told anyone to do anything, my second post was a sarcastic open suggestion, and you are welcome to take it or leave it. No need to get you’re panties in a knot and start pointing fingers and foaming at the mouth. “Many”/PC tag Gay people do seem to love to get verbally nasty with no holds barred language when it’s they doing the talking. A little dark humour thrown their way and it’s time for meds and a strait jacket. And no you didn’t need to see the humour in it; the information world isn’t just your little personal empire to control.
On a friendly note, don’t take things so personally, your last few comments sounded genuine and rational and would have sufficed to get your viewpoint across to begin with without the personal attacks.
For some it is a learned behavior and that is why I object to the agenda being rammed down the throat of my grandkids. Other than that, they can do whatever they wish in their own bedrooms, well, except for maybe those disgusting pornographic parades that everyone else would get arrested for.
Knight first of all I think I made it pretty clear that I am offended by the stupid float riders. Second you’re seriously gunna say all of that and end with how my last few posts were rational?
Ken agreed nothing of the sort should be rammed down kids throats. I’d home school my kids, sorta feel everyone should. Schools aren’t about teaching math and science anymore they’re about politics and I for one think it’s awful.
Think straight kids will grow up to be straight though that’s sorta how it works. Why anyone would choose the ridicule I faced as a teenager is beyond me I would have killed to be like everyone else… unfortunate at the time but fortunately I grew up and realized that who I sleep with is way less important than what I do with my life and how I choose to be an upstanding person who helps in the community and lives a healthy lifestyle.
steven burton >
“I think I made it pretty clear that I am offended by the stupid float riders”
That’s precisely why my comments were not directed at you in the first place. They were directed to the float riders, the Hamas supporters of any ilk but in particular the hypocritical gay Hamas supporters and the homosexual sex educators of our children in publicly funded schools.
Otherwise I think I also made my viewpoints clear “to each their own”.
Yea, the very last friendly comment of mine was genuine; otherwise I was pulling your pisser. You sounded like you needed a good bitch slap for the bigot crap. 🙂
Thank you, I hate that there needs to be the qualifier but those wing sporting, string wearing, dick flapping float riders don’t represent me or anyone besides themselves. (Same with the activists.) Its a party nothing else and it shouldn’t be outdoors.
steven burton >
Agreed 100%.
That’s g-string wearing lol stupid auto correct
steve burton: “Stop lumping gays together with child molesters and polygamists.”
Fine. ‘Happy to oblige.
I’d also be obliged if gay activists would stop lumping conservatives together with bigots and homophobes. Having an opinion on the homosexual lifestyle does not mean that a person is bigoted and/or homophobic.
Sorry, freedom of speech/ expression is a two-way street — or it’s not freedom of speech/expression. I wish gay activists would get it.
Batb what are you sorry for? Everybody here is about freedom of expression. I’m not commanding anyone to stop I’m just pleading with Conservatives to stop saying it because we have bigger fish to fry. No point in alienating Independants worrying about gays at all while the worlds economy is circling the drain.
The Harper Conservatives recognize this and are trying to gather extra support and lose that “evil” stigma they have with younger voters. They are doing this with the ssm free vote, legislation they say they will introduce to preserve gay marriages already performed, and now John Baird going to other countries to promote gay rights.
We should be welcoming new conservative voters here gay or not. I was unbrainwashed per se by Damian Penny’s site which eventually led me here to so much truth. I’d hate for someone to read this post first, then never learn a thing because of a few stupid comments.
The comments are priceless to,Robert. Some people(leftards in particular) must have had their humor/sarcasm detecting gland removed at birth,along with their frontal lobes.
If you are gay the best course of action to take is by flying to Saudi Arabia with your “partner” to make out in protest on the front steps of Mecca. The Canadian government will then step in if there is any trouble.
There shouldn’t be trouble anyway, after all gays do support and stand by Hamas when they march in Canadian streets demanding Israel and Harpers blood. In the loving world of rainbow dreams void of heterosexual white males everyone has everyone else’s back, you’ll do just fine.
“I didn’t know it could possibly come out of mouths of one of our Conservative government members,” she said. “Kudos to Mr. Baird for stepping up.”
Some people can’t even acknowledge an action with which they totally agree without taking a cheap shot at the current government. What a complete lack of class!
Helen Kennedy, executive director of Egale Canada, said she was both “stunned” and “delighted”
“Stunned” is a fitting adjective in this case, however probably not in the sense that Ms. Kennedy had in mind.
And Harper’s secret agenda is so cleverly concealed that after many years, we still don’t know about it
That piece seemed like a spoof. I cannot believe that an alleged scribe with a (more or less) serious publication would be so stupid as to write such a thing. What he wrote was something one would expect as a comment on a Lefty Hate Site.
Okay, I get it .. it is a spoof. Everything is so screwed these days it’s hard to tell what’s serious and what a joke.
No doubt the Ministry Responsible for Fairy Dust and Unicorns will be weighing in at any moment.
Cheers
Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
What’s secret about Harper’s agenda regarding gays?
One of the first things his minority government did when it gained power in 2006 was to have a free vote in parliament on same sex marriage.
Since SSM had just been voted in by Paul Martin’s minority government it was a slam dunk to be unheld by the majority of MPs when Harper’s minority came to power.
Thus Harper could claim to have fulfilled his promise for a free vote and put the SSM issue to rest with his social conservative base as permanent losers in the equation.
That homos and Lefties(not to be redundant) still pretend the CPC has an anti-gay agenda is as laughable as CPC supporters pretending the CPC has a Conservative agenda.
The CPC are populist with a vaguely libertarian bent.
You spelled liberal as libertarian Oz
You spelled liberal as libertarian Oz
Liberals would never repeal the gun registry, section 13 of the CHRC, or pull out of Kyoto.
Those were libertarian actions, as is support for homosexual rights.
I agree with biff(1:35). When Helen Kennedy, executive director of Egale Canada a Toronto based human rights organization for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people, says “I didn’t know it could possibly come out of mouths of one of our Conservative government members…” it shows quite clearly that bigotry knows no bounds. Despite the lefts sincere belief that they carry a natural immunity from catching it!
Nambla is waiting patiently for all this to be resolved so that they can join the warmth and love offered by liberal society. Nature abhors a vacuum and they just know they are next in line.
http://www.nambla.org/bulletin.html
Nature abhors a vacuum and they just know they are next in line.
Polygamists are next in line.
They have the backing of more than one protected religious sect, have a cultural history, and produce mucho offspring which require economic support/services provided by legislative legitimacy.
Additionally, polygamy would embrace bisexual groupings of 3 or more adults which are logically the next step after plain vanilla SSM limited by the number ‘2’.
Baby steps.
Could be true ,but Nambla is a bigger perversion and therefore will get greater sympathy from the liberal media. Anyway,..polygamists are probably content with the status Quo. Look at the happy children and wives in Bountyful.
What don’t people get about Conservatives being the party of human rights? Homosexuals should have every right to practice their perversion just as I have a right to believe it is a perversion.
peterj >
Polygamy defamation is all in the eyes of religious and racial bigotry.
The Mormons and other Christian polygamist groups are vile freaks in society worthy of genocide; Islamic polygamy on the other hand is an honoured cultural tradition to the Liberal left.
Scar >
“….just as I have a right to believe it is a perversion.”
There it is in a nutshell.
I would add that the Gay Rights advocates also have no right to force their particular fetishes or lifestyles on my defenceless children in schools. It is my right to disagree and protect my children from their peculiar ideologies in a government institution that I help pay to even exist.
If gays want a school for their own children to drone in whatever psychological babble outside of core academics, they should start their own and pay for it.
@ Knight99
OOhhh,……..low blow to Romney. Look at the money he spent on adds stating he is just like you and me. With a little more in the bank of course , but otherwise identical.
@ Knight99
As to your post at 4:04, I think you missed the boat on that one.
http://bctf.ca/SocialJustice.aspx?id=21406
Peterj >
Naw not really, it is what it is. I could care less if Romney was Mormon; they seem like pretty decent hardworking people if you can just get your head around the crazy religious belief system at their core. It’s sort of an enigma to me because they seem so grounded otherwise.
Islam on the other hand is a direct threat to our existence. I also could care less for their polygamy freakishness, aside from the political protections they receive from the left including the multiple welfare check fraud that gets a Liberal pass because they are generally “brown and would hate us even more if we didn’t”.
*For what it’s worth, every presidential candidate outside of a close maybe with Ron Paul is a sign of the wreckage the USA has become. Including Obamba et al…….
@ Knight99
I agree completely. No longer the world I grew up in. We have to adapt but don’t have to like or accept it. Mormon beliefs seem trivial when I compare it to Islam.
You can’t adapt to Islam. No Nation in history has. You either submit to its Sharia law with Muslim supremacy, or die. Islam has no Nations but the Ummah, embodied in a Caliphate. It has no senses of culture beyond the Koran. All the Nations you see in the Middle East where made up by the British & French.
Islam is anti-Nationalist.
It has no senses of culture beyond the Koran.
~Revnant Dream
And from there we can bring the discussion full circle back to the CPC’s secret agenda regarding homos by observing that the Arab hegemonic culture of the Koranimals is on a collision course with the new rights of non-traditional sexual practitioners.(a certain narrowly defined polygamist view excepted)
Stop lumping all gays together. Most gays i know work in the oil industry or other similar industries, and vote conservative. “Gay rights” activists speak for all gays like PETA speaks for all animal lovers.
Stop lumping gays together with child molesters and polygamists. It’s so dumb as to be too stupid to talk about. You are curious why people expect the conservatives to repeal ssm or be against gay rights, it’s because of comments like these on these sites. It’s unfortunate that the silent majority of Conservative voters don’t argue against the small number of bigots like knight99, hans, and peterj.
As for schools, they should teach math, sciences, languages and history without ANY sex education or gay interest crap or whatever. That should be saved for home. They should also avoid politics, global warming should not be taught as fact, and creationism should be left for home as well.
wo of the posters here who get it right are Oz and Scar. Oz is correct about the libertarinism of this whole situation and Scar is right that he has the right to his opinion but I have the right to my mine. That’s what this country is all about.
Funny how the only country in the world they can actually point to for having “an anti-Gay agenda” is Uganda. Although they mention “the Caribbean”, no one can actually name any country in the Caribbean where the persecution of homosexuals is systematized. There’s a reason for that: in fact, Caribbean culture is quite “laissez faire” about everything — whether underground economies, marijuana use, or consensual Gay sex, nobody worries about these things.
The “Gay persecution” narrative is usually a red herring, and it’s a red herring just about everywhere else in the world; except, the elephant in the room that the media refuses to talk about: THEOCRATIC ISLAM — the only culture in the world where Gays are not only systematically persecuted but can be legally and publically executed.
And stop saying homos and know that most gays didn’t march in support of Hamas and aren’t in support of Hamas. Most gays support Israel, recognizing that the Jewish people have historically been discriminated against, just like gays have.
ricardo, how about you do some research instead of making yourself look ignorant. I’m not very informed on this situation but I can point to other countries, yes even in the carribbean, where enforced laws discriminate against gays. Yes gays are persecuted in Islamic countries, and yes they are persecuted in Africa and yes they are persecuted in the Carribbean and many other places all over the world every single day. People are dying, but because you only read about one situation in one article doesn’t mean that bs isn’t going on.
steven burton >
The only obvious bigot here is you.
None of my comments towards gays was malicious, and I have a right to not care for their lifestyles any more than you care for mine.
I will call BS on the gays in the oilfield comment you made. I’ve worked in the oilfield for over 30 years across the globe, and never once has someone openly identified themselves as gay to me or anyone else I know. Not that they don’t exist to be sure, but they for certain do not proudly advertize the fact, as you suggest.
Therefore I believe you are being disingenuous and pushing a gay agenda with BS.
You are correct about the core curriculums in schools; I believe that was my point as well. As far as your silent majority conservative spout, understand that is why we are slipping into this Liberal Left mess in the first place. That is why conservatives that you want to so casually label as bigots are indeed starting to stand up and voice their opinions, against the lazy roll over ones like your own.
The second post on this is yours Knight and it’s offensive and I will call it.
I’m pretty sure if this is how you talk I wouldn’t let you know I was “proudly” gay either you know. What gay agenda am I promoting exactly either? the only recommendation I made you agreed with..
We need to stand up and yell about big government spending and massive government programs. We need to shut up about small stuff like gay marriage and other bs that just leads us to losing elections.
I’d be more supportive of gays if they were less supportive of Islamofascists.
We all have the rights to our opinions, but don’t tell me to take my “partner” and fly to saudi arabia and make out on the steps of Mecca and I won’t call you a bigot.
I will admit I got a bit heated reading some of these comments, and there is no tone so it could be sarcasm or jokes but I can’t hear it. I know I just read an awesome and funny article and came here to my most visited site to feel very unwelcome. It’s the one issue in the Conservative “base” that gets me p/o’d and I honestly think that most Conservative voters don’t give a rat’s ass about same sex marriage.
steven burton at January 24, 2012 6:19 PM,
I think Steve has a point. We have no way of knowing if the anti-Israel people marching in Gay Pride are homosexual or are actually Palestinian radicals (who hate homesexuals) or their Left heterosexual sympathizers in the West, who have attached themselves to the parade to dissimulate the political motives. It would serve a dual purpose: to defame Israel, as well as to place the blame on the Gay community for said defamation, hence whipping up “homophobia”. Both purposes would clearly serve the interests of radical homophobic Islamists as well as any anti-Israel/anti-Semitic types on either the extreme Left or the extreme Right.
And how can you tell if anyone is actually homosexual? There’s no sure-fire way even if the person claims to be homosexual, they can be lying (unless they give a public demonstration by same-sex fornicating in the street — which is illegal). That’s the “catch 22” about Gay rights politics — it can easily be manipulated by any outside group for ulterior purposes.
There is no way of publically proving that one is actually a member of a particular gender/sex-based group, since sex occurs — ipso facto — in private between consenting adults.
Ellie, that’s why I’m rotted, the gay activists don’t speak for us, and just try shutting them up!?! I know quite a few gays. The activist type which takes an uninformed stance on things, supports islam – but I can’t figure why as they don’t support us back. Sadly, like most young people now adays a much larger group have no idea that islam and Israel don’t get along because they don’t read or watch news. And the embarassed majority of gays who want no part of either the stereotypical tv gay or the activist gay or whatever, who work hard and live life like most straight couples who post on this site. Who have more in common with you and Knight99 than any liberal straight couple. The last group, of which I am a part gets offended when we’re lumped in with Nambla or Polygamists or Beastiality. Heck even the term LBGT gets my goat cause I get gays and lesbians, but why crossdressers and body mutilation?
@ Steven Burton
I support your right to a free opinion. Mine is that I liked the whole subject better when it was closet material. Now it’s being shown as normal or even preferred in our school system. I will never see it as either and I’m not even religious.
steven burton at January 24, 2012 6:25 PM:
“ricardo, how about you do some research instead of making yourself look ignorant.”
Hold your horses buddy, I think I supported you — at least in principle.
But as far as “Caribbean” countries with systemic homophobia, you still haven’t named one. I happened to live there for many years…
Ricardo, thank you for supporting me. I wish I could believe that those marches had been co-opted by other interests, but I’m afraid I believe they are uninformed gays.
Jamaica is the answer to your question. I’ve even been warned about travelling there. Resorts are probably safe places all the same.
Peterj, I think we agree it should be kept out of schools. They should be places of fact, and not opinion.
At any rate, that article was hilarious lol. Sorry for spoiling the tone of everything. I’m just a guy and like all people I hate being lumped into a group that doesn’t represent me, just because I happen to share one characteristic of that group. I also very much hate when polygamy, and child molestation are lumped into a group with gays because I have even less in common with child molestation and polygamy than I do with most other gays.
Just seems to me that saying all gays are the same is like saying all capricorns are the same or all blacks are the same or all derrickhands are the same. Gay is a pretty minor part of what i think on the political field. My only recommendation to gay activists would be to work to repeal hate crime laws. If someone gets beat up there are already laws against assault on the books. The reason for the beating shouldn’t matter, the fact of the beating should.
@ steve burton: “The reason for the beating shouldn’t matter, the fact of the beating should.”
Agreed. But I would add one caviat to that: if the reason for the beating was official State policy, then you have a serious human rights problem. That’s what I meant by “systematized” — when the State endorses it, which is clearly against International human rights as understood by all constitutionally free democracies who are signatories.
Agreed Ricardo.
@ steven burton
Damnit, I’m starting to like you. Goes against my preconceived notions and new years resolution.
lmao Peterj. Honestly I like everybody here and agree with 90 percent of what gets posted on almost every topic. I just feel, as a gay male, I don’t have a voice – that it’e being co-opted by hollywood and activists.
The single 2 gay characters on TV that I ever liked were Brian and Steve from The Sarah Silverman Program because they have shitty jobs, live in filth, dress like losers, etc. Normal people!
steven burton >
“The second post on this is yours Knight and it’s offensive and I will call it.”
Yea, offensive to whom?
Do you really care if I’m offended seeing thousands of naked gay men parading in pink thongs dancing through the streets of Toronto in front of children? Then why should I care what offends you?
“…but don’t tell me to take my “partner” and fly to saudi arabia” – steven burton
Who told anyone to do anything, my second post was a sarcastic open suggestion, and you are welcome to take it or leave it. No need to get you’re panties in a knot and start pointing fingers and foaming at the mouth. “Many”/PC tag Gay people do seem to love to get verbally nasty with no holds barred language when it’s they doing the talking. A little dark humour thrown their way and it’s time for meds and a strait jacket. And no you didn’t need to see the humour in it; the information world isn’t just your little personal empire to control.
On a friendly note, don’t take things so personally, your last few comments sounded genuine and rational and would have sufficed to get your viewpoint across to begin with without the personal attacks.
For some it is a learned behavior and that is why I object to the agenda being rammed down the throat of my grandkids. Other than that, they can do whatever they wish in their own bedrooms, well, except for maybe those disgusting pornographic parades that everyone else would get arrested for.
Knight first of all I think I made it pretty clear that I am offended by the stupid float riders. Second you’re seriously gunna say all of that and end with how my last few posts were rational?
Ken agreed nothing of the sort should be rammed down kids throats. I’d home school my kids, sorta feel everyone should. Schools aren’t about teaching math and science anymore they’re about politics and I for one think it’s awful.
Think straight kids will grow up to be straight though that’s sorta how it works. Why anyone would choose the ridicule I faced as a teenager is beyond me I would have killed to be like everyone else… unfortunate at the time but fortunately I grew up and realized that who I sleep with is way less important than what I do with my life and how I choose to be an upstanding person who helps in the community and lives a healthy lifestyle.
steven burton >
“I think I made it pretty clear that I am offended by the stupid float riders”
That’s precisely why my comments were not directed at you in the first place. They were directed to the float riders, the Hamas supporters of any ilk but in particular the hypocritical gay Hamas supporters and the homosexual sex educators of our children in publicly funded schools.
Otherwise I think I also made my viewpoints clear “to each their own”.
Yea, the very last friendly comment of mine was genuine; otherwise I was pulling your pisser. You sounded like you needed a good bitch slap for the bigot crap. 🙂
Thank you, I hate that there needs to be the qualifier but those wing sporting, string wearing, dick flapping float riders don’t represent me or anyone besides themselves. (Same with the activists.) Its a party nothing else and it shouldn’t be outdoors.
steven burton >
Agreed 100%.
That’s g-string wearing lol stupid auto correct
steve burton: “Stop lumping gays together with child molesters and polygamists.”
Fine. ‘Happy to oblige.
I’d also be obliged if gay activists would stop lumping conservatives together with bigots and homophobes. Having an opinion on the homosexual lifestyle does not mean that a person is bigoted and/or homophobic.
Sorry, freedom of speech/ expression is a two-way street — or it’s not freedom of speech/expression. I wish gay activists would get it.
Batb what are you sorry for? Everybody here is about freedom of expression. I’m not commanding anyone to stop I’m just pleading with Conservatives to stop saying it because we have bigger fish to fry. No point in alienating Independants worrying about gays at all while the worlds economy is circling the drain.
The Harper Conservatives recognize this and are trying to gather extra support and lose that “evil” stigma they have with younger voters. They are doing this with the ssm free vote, legislation they say they will introduce to preserve gay marriages already performed, and now John Baird going to other countries to promote gay rights.
We should be welcoming new conservative voters here gay or not. I was unbrainwashed per se by Damian Penny’s site which eventually led me here to so much truth. I’d hate for someone to read this post first, then never learn a thing because of a few stupid comments.