98 Replies to “The World Is Being Run By Crazy People”

  2. Toronto already does this and thankfully we have the healthiest crack heads in the east.
    They used to only be able to break into 6 cars a day, now with the help of the gubmint, our healthier crackheads are breaking into 10 plus cars a day.

  3. this is the drug addict version of leftoids thinking increasing borrowing and deficits solves a debt problem.
    Works so well for the economy, should be big success for drug addicts, right?

  4. I wonder if these pipes are being handed out to government employees. They dreamt up this program, probably a conflict of interest.

  5. The best solution to a non-existant problem is to do nothing.
    Crack-heads succumbing to Hep C etc is a self correcting solution….Nature’s way…like natural…organic…GREEN…

  6. This is certainly one of those times when I am so damned ashamed of being a British Columbian. Is there no way to be rid of the idiot Robertson and his crew of destructors?

  8. Just so you know the vancouver coastal health authority is unelected and is appointed by the province. So it wasn’t peace moonbeam this time but I don’t doubt he’s a supporter. Think about it this way though. With that 50k you could just about pay for a full time nurse.

  9. I don’t see a problem with this as long as they are hand-crafted, fair trade, sustainable crack pipes and not McCrack Pipes from capitalist overlords.
    I’m not convinced that harm prevention strategies are the best way to help addicts but crack pipes are lot less dangerous to the public than carelessly discarded tax-payer provided needles. Frankly, the whole idea of preventing Hep-C while facilitating the crack addiction is like offering a band-aid to someone who is bleeding to death from a gaping stab wound.

  10. “Across Canada, only a handful of cities, including Calgary and Winnipeg, hand out crack pipes.”
    Welcome to the club,Vancouver! Vanc. is SO fortunate to have elected a forward-thinking Mayor. Now,Vancouverites can grow wheat in their front yards,raise chickens in their back yards,and and watch crackheads and junkies do their thing all year ’round!
    Oh,forgot to mention those bicycle lanes.
    They might as well cut to the chase and hand out the dope to whomever declares himself an addict,as “richfisher” says,they have to do B&E’s to support their lifestyles now,so for the sake of the taxpayers,give it to ’em free.
    It’s the next step, and the governments will get around to it eventually anyway.
    Allah almighty,what a society we’ve become.

  11. From the article:
    “Mouth pieces alone are not enough. Health consequences don’t just come from the mouth piece; they come from unsafe pipes.”
    News flash – “healh consequences” come from: Smoking. The. Crack. In. The. First. Place.
    See LC Bennett above – right on, LC!
    Can’t say it any better myself, so I’ll let you say it…

  12. I’ve got a basket case friend who can’t make things meet up month to month that I’ve been helping at about $500 per year. He don’t smoke crack but he can’t get an extra $40 a month. A hundred of his like is a better investment than crack pipes.

  13. I was wondering if it wouldn’t be better to spend the 50 grand on crack and distribute it to these poor craving addicts.
    But then I caught on. It’s kinda biblical.
    Give a man a hit, and he’ll be stoned for a day.
    But teach him how to smoke, and you’ll have a job for life.

  14. Give them free drugs; as much as they want. It’s the logical and effective approach to true harm reduction.
    The high cost of drugs fosters property crime and prostitution to feed the habit and organized crime gets rich off the ludicrous mark-up on street drugs. If drugs are free to registered addicts then they have a chance to get their life together out of the crime world.
    Yes, some will undoubtedly OD; they probably would have anyway.
    There are more addicts than the system can treat; adopt a triage approach to save the savable and make the end as painless as possible for the others.
    Getting them out of the crime loop gives them the best chance to control their addiction.
    Just giving out free paraphernalia only makes the drug lords richer.

  15. james at 1:36pm
    Quit making excuses for Mayor Moonbeam. All he had to do was act like an honourable leader and simply say “Not in my city!” to any nutbar promoting a lunatic idea. However, I guess that may be expecting too much of that pretty-boy jerk.

  16. as long as they are purchased at retail from the local head shop and not at a gubmint discount. hate to run those head shops out of business. I cant steer far enough away from vancouver these days.

  18. i love it when crypto-marxists use the economic argument to justify enabling illegal, hazardous, and self-destructive choices. You betcha treating HIV, constant emergency room visits, ambulance calls and sundry other medical support cost money. But at the heart of the problem is the decision to save these buggers in the first place. When Narcan started saving every junkie stupid enough to overdose costs soared! If it’s about economics I have to submit that letting them die quickly is awfully economical.
    Hard hearted, I know, but when my best friend has to shell out of pocket for the needles that keep his son alive while addicts get them free, I get a little steamed.

  19. what’s fallacy is the belief that criminals will stop commiting crime if you feed their habit.
    it’s not a zero sum game. trash is trash, no matter how you got there.
    the bright side is… it’s never too late to turn back to the good side.
    this whole fiasco is naught but another creative way to spend OPP.

  20. Libby and the Dippers of BC must be ecstatic at this news.
    Is Vancouver completely cracked, totally wasted or both?

  21. brother, can you spare a ‘pipe?
    not convinced crackheads/needle users care if they “share a hit”.
    what’s more important, gettin’ high or health?
    not rational peaople makin the decision…..

  22. Why not just sell them the crack?
    Give them a park, pipe and all the free crack they can smoke in an hour.

  23. The only problem I see with the free drug approach, N of 60, is that this is basically what we do with alcoholics. Alcoholics use their welfare money to go on a lifetime bender while the taxpayer pays for subsidized housing, utilities, medical care, dental care, etc… and police services (addicts commit crimes due to inhibition and temperament with or without the presence of drug lords). I grew up living across the street from a welfare drunk and his total cost to taxpayers over his age 30-something to age 65 of social benefits must be in the 100s of thousands. Society should not be expected to carry the cost of the useless who contribute nothing to society – drunks or drug addicts. Time limits of welfare are long overdue.
    *Depressing story about the neighborhood drunk -at 65 he was moved from welfare to the public pension plan, his biggest complaint is that he has less disposable income (for booze I assume) because he is required to pay bills that the province takes care of for welfare recipients.

  24. Isn’t worrying about ‘the health consequences’ of not using CLEAN crack pipes sorta like worrying about the health consequences of getting shot in the face by a DIRTY :45 hollow point bullet?

  25. I think that the Coastal Health authorities should be handing out capes as well – just to show how ‘capable’ these people realy can be even if they are stoned. (Google “Capes+Florida”). It would be a nice gesture, I think.

  26. If you want less of something: Tax it.
    If you want more of something: Subsidize it.
    Draw your own conclusions.

  27. Vancouver. One of the most beautiful cities in the world. And downtown loaded with drug addicts and beggars (the two terms are inter-changeable).
    A few months ago I parked my car at a meter, on the street. A creature, thinly-disguised as a human male, emerged from a doorway and said “Hey mister…give me ten bucks and I’ll make sure nothing bad happens to your car”.
    I looked at him and said that I had an even better deal involving no money exchange, that I would be finished my business in about an hour and a half and if, upon my return, no damage had been done to my car, I wouldn’t shoot him in the gut.
    Heh. I may have been having a bad day, but regardless, no damage ensued, and no money changed hands (like I’m going to fund this moron’s next fix).
    They come here for the climate. And because of the fact that our civic leaders are idiots….grrrrrrr

  28. Still only a rumour but the BC Human Rights folks are taking the city to court for inhumane treatment by NOT filling the pipes when they hand them out.

  29. OT: It’s time for another YouTube like/dislike poll to go horribly wrong.
    Oh look, the “Obama Board” from a Toronto centre of the known universe lefty with a midi toy.
    “Canadians, they love Barack Obama hands down, their most favorite politician.”
    Vote now!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T2b6_k4Qus

  30. Sigh..keep ’em on crack, heroin, meth..anything to addle the mind and keep the middle class paying for all the social engineering not to mention global warming and it’s ‘stark consequences’…. and you can be assured of a left vote every time.
    When they run out of other people’s money they will come for their hide.
    Best we get tough now and end this fantasy socialist experiment. EVERYWHERE we find it.

  31. What a wonderfull idea; we should buy new cars for gangbangers who do drive-by’s so they won’t injure themselves driving an unsafe vehicle. Also we should give out free .45 auto’s to potential armed robbers so that there’s less likelyhood of having increased medical bills from paraplegic victims as a result of using an underpowered firearm. Poor people like Breivik who toiled in dangerous conditions mixing ANALFO should be provided with a fully equipped industrial production facility with all of the latest safety gear. I’m so glad I no longer live in the moonbat capital of Canada.
    The reason that coke users get HepC is that they inject the stuff and the coke high lasts for maybe 5 minutes and then there’s an unpleasant crash. The first thing on a cokeheads mind at that point is grabbing the nearest syringe, used or not, and getting their next hit together so the can get that 5 minute rush again. HepC is tough to spread sexually and none of the couples in my practice where one partner was HepC+ and the other wasn’t seroconverted in the 10 year period I monitored them.
    There used to be a perfectly good way of ingesting cocaine and that was as the hydrochloride salt, finely ground and insnufflated through a tube (preferably a rolled up $100 bill) into ones nose. Longer high, less of a crash and no chance of tranmission of HepC if everyone used their own C-note. There are losses in converting cocaine hydrochloride to free base cocaine and a considerable amount of cocaine is pyrolyzed to other compounds during the far from gentle sublimation process. Most cocaine afficionado’s I knew in the 1970’s rejected free-basing as it was a highly inefficient way to ingest a very expensive product. Only people like Richard Pryor could afford to do so. The price of a gram of pure cocaine in 1975 was $150 and I believe it’s down as low as $50-75 in Vancouver now. How’s that for success of the “war on (some) drugs” in causing a deflationary spiral in the drug market?
    AFAIK, the Vancouver Health Department are a bunch of moonbat morons. If I was running this program I’d spend the money on 50 kg of pharmaceutical grade cocaine hydrochloride and give out free grams with a straw and instructions on the seemingly lost art of snorting cocaine.

  32. The left are bound and determined to use whatever measure necessary to jam the square peg of their ideology into the round hole of reality – and it doesn’t matter how many lives they help destroy in the process (indeed that would seem to be the goal)

  33. In Calgary the pipes are distributed along with condoms(other items too)in a plastic bag that has been dubbed the ‘party pack’.
    I agree with the practice. We also give methadone to addicts,maybe at your neighbourhood Safeway, depending on where you live. There is also something very similar to safe injection sites in the city,they are not advertised,you have to know where to go,and they are not the ‘stroll on in’ places like Vancouver.
    I’m all for ‘harm reduction’ with the gov’t supplying the drugs,this would ultimately reduce the harm to my pocketbook.

  34. Qu’elle horror!
    The next thing you know, government agencies will be selling alcohol and raking in tax money from tobacco.(2 addictive substances that have killed far more people than crack).

  35. Next it wil be free drugs paid by you & me. In the name of public safty of course. Can’t have people doing bad dope. They may OD.
    We are now sunsidising a new clas of drug addled beggers. YEt Canadians that work all their life here get a 1000 dollars less than an Old age Minority pensioner just off the plane. For a pension not worked a day in Canada. Sweet eh?
    JMO

  36. What? No free cars for the little car-jackers? I see a Human Rights case in the future.I also smell Libby Davies all over this stupidity.

  37. The next thing you know, government agencies will be selling alcohol and raking in tax money from tobacco.(2 addictive substances that have killed far more people than crack). -Posted by: Observer at August 2, 2011 5:26 PM
    Actually, there are quite a few SDA posters who don’t give a damn what an adult chooses to snort, shoot, drink or inhale into their body. Legalize, tax it, whatever…but don’t ask taxpayers to foot the bill. Right now tax money is spent to help addict become safer addicts, subsidize their lifestyle, give government grant to activist to lobby on drug addicts behalf *and* use up police time and jail space on behalf on the war on drugs. Stupid and expensive.

  39. Since the old model of “The War on Drugs” has worked so well, why bother trying something new?
    While I realize that Compassionate Conservatives feel that drug addicts are less than human and as such should just be allowed to just die in the streets, the sane of people in this country would like to find a way to mitigate harm to these individuals, perhaps give them the opportunity to rehabilitate and ultimately save the taxpayer some money by not having these people put an additional strain on our health care system.

  40. No, Iberia, drug addicts are fully human. Progressives, OTOH? More like leech-human hybrids whose “compassion” goes not further than their desire to skim 90 cents of every dollar intended for social justice projects.
    People should be free to do what they want to themselves but they should not have the right to demand that society subsidize their crappy choices. I’d rather pay for the direct health care costs for the addict than the direct and indirect costs of the social justice racket.

  41. Iberia is a drama queen, yeah we conservatives want to see them die in the streets, what a moron.
    On another note, anyone who lives in Vancouver and drives downtown gets to see a whole different view of the city and they sure don’t look to be lining up for rehab, far from it.

  42. No, Iberia
    We are compassionate. We want them off the poison. The so called “progressives” want them to continue their self destructive lifestyle slowly killing themselves in order they can feel good about themselves.
    We are also more compassionate to the poor schmoo’s paying for this false compassion (generally us conservatives).
    On another note, we should start a rumor that the needles and pipes are laced with poison. Maybe they could be more responsible and take care of their own needles and pipes…..bahahahahahahaha

  43. Multirec, I’m glad you read all the comments:
    “The best solution to a non-existant problem is to do nothing.
    Crack-heads succumbing to Hep C etc is a self correcting solution….Nature’s way…like natural…organic…GREEN…”
    Posted by: sasquatch at August 2, 2011 1:07 PM
    “…When Narcan started saving every junkie stupid enough to overdose costs soared! If it’s about economics I have to submit that letting them die quickly is awfully economical.”
    Posted by: the rat at August 2, 2011 2:20 PM

  44. I honestly thought the crack thing had peaked in the ’80s. Aren’t they all dead by now? (BTW my understanding is that, while even opiates are not nearly as physically addictive as most people believe, cocaine is a drug that requires herculean effort to get hooked on. If I’m right then this would indicate that crack addicts really, really, really want to be screwed up.)

  46. “People should be free to do what they want to themselves but they should not have the right to demand that society subsidize their crappy choices.”
    The latter necessitates the former. If the market for drugs was a free market, I would certainly agree with your assessment. However, since our government is artificially inflating the cost of drugs by criminalizing their use, I certainly can’t blame users for wanting a subsidy, nor can I see a good argument against providing it. We either legalize drugs, or we provide assistance to users – take your pick.

  47. If you read any of my posts, alex, you’d see I am for legalizing drugs as long as drug users take responsibility for the consequences and welfare is reformed.
    Take your pick
    Pretty dumb reasoning – How about none of the above. Don’t do drugs if you can’t afford current prices. Drug use is a personal choice. Millions of us manage to function without them.

  48. Why not the take all the druggies and make them join the army for 2 years. That should fix them.
    In Vancouver you have all manner of druggies, including the maggot infested, filthy pot smoking hippies who happily smoke pot in public. Who is going to pay for their burned out lungs and fried brains? That’s right, the taxpayer.
    Vancouver should just bulldoze the Downtown Eastside, and put up new buildings, condos, etc. Long ago it used to be a perfectly fine part of town, but the never-ending stream of left-wing socialists at City Hall have allowed it to go to ruin.
    Now they think that handing out free drugs and crack pipes is the solution. Kate’s headline was bang on the money.

  49. “If you read any of my posts, alex, you’d see I am for legalizing drugs as long as drug users take responsibility for the consequences and welfare is reformed.”
    That’s stupid. May as well criminalize apples until welfare is reformed.
    “Pretty dumb reasoning – How about none of the above. Don’t do drugs if you can’t afford current prices.”
    Pretty dumb reasoning – first you state that people should be “free to do what they want to themselves”, then you argue that inflating the price of freedom is ok, and people should just give up if they can’t afford it. Maybe we can start charging for freedom of speech, next. If you can’t afford it, you can go home and shut up. That sound about right?

  50. So Alex-who-isn’t-a-troll, just to be clear, if drug use is legalized then you will be happy to see addicts die in the metaphorical gutter or else see them pay full legal penalty for the actions they commit because they are under the influence of drugs and/or to aquire money for drugs?
    It’s a legitimate position, but I honestly doubt you’d have the stomach for it.

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