Yesterday Sun News TV’s Brian Lilley interviewed transplanted American agitator / community organizer Luam Kidane (h/t ‘batb’). Warning: Severe nausea may ensue.
Just imagine for a moment if a right-wing conservative came up from America and started spouting such drivel. The Left in Canada would go absolutely apoplectic. And rightly so by the way. But because one of their own is saying such things, it’s all perfectly fine.
SDA regular ‘lookout’ had some brilliant commentary on this matter:
Last night, watching SUN TV’s Byline with Brian Lilley, who exercised ADMIRABLE restraint, my husband and I were stunned too by Luam Kidane of the radical, brain dead group “No One’s Illegal”—well, we weren’t really surprised because this entitled, arrogant, ignorant, and stupid ninny is typical of a critical mass of the brainwashed “Whatever Generation”.
In even and silky tones, she insisted that Lilley adhere to HER definition of words—he didn’t—and she refused to answer Lilley’s main question (paraphrased), “Do you agree that Canada should have no immigration policy and no borders, so that anyone may enter Canada?”
Kidane finally admitted that, in fact, she and her group do not acknowledge Canada as a sovereign nation at all. They think it’s illegal, occupied territory, “Turtle Island”. Lilley then asked her if she ever used the services of this non-country—like the library, public transit, or the health care system. Kidane demurred. I wish that Lilley had pressed her on that one—and had asked her who was supposed to pay for services if the whole world has access to Canada and just anyone can enter any time.
Kidane’s ideas are radically and certifiably insane but there are a whole lot of other “youngsters” just like her, whose brains have been programmed by the lefties who run our education systems from kindergarten to post graduate levels. These people are dangerous. I don’t think breaking the law to achieve their revolutionary ends would bother them at all. In fact, I’ve just checked their web site and it seems they’ve probably already broken the law. Here’s part of this group’s April, 2011 blog message (note that Lilley’s question, which Kidane refused to answer, is unambiguously answered here):
“ . . . Close to one year ago, No One is Illegal joined with thousands on the streets of Toronto and dared to dream of a world without borders and fences. We marched with Indigenous people, migrants, poor people, people of colour, queer and trans people, feminists, disabled people, anarchists, anti-poverty activists, rank and file labour activists, anti-capitalists, environmental justice activists, and community organizers to confront the G20 leaders in Toronto . . . .”
Read the rest.
Kidane is a total nut case;
she came off
like an alien from outer space.
From a comment I made this morning:
I watched Luam Kidane with growing wonder: How could someone with such ludicrous, down-the-rabbit-hole, views take herself [so] utterly seriously. …
… I guess she thought those pink earrings gave her alot of cred: They looked like flying saucers.
Kidane is perfectly typical and actually more sane sounding than most university students I’ve met in Toronto.
I was lucky enough to see that segment. I roared and laughed through the whole thing. It was comic gold. It does go to show that all you need to thrive in today’s academic environment is a sense of identification as a victim and the ability to parrot a certain kind of jargon.
Holy crap, that is some kind of stupid
I couldn’t believe what I saw; at the time I thought they must be playing a joke on the audience. No one could be so fantastically stupid and thankless for the beneficence of the western world. It was balanced somewhat by an interview with Don Cherry, later.
So this ‘nutcase’ refers to North America as Turtle Island. Allow me to introduce the Green Party’s election platform:
“Canadian democracy is more secure when human rights are respected – starting with the First Nations and indigenous peoples of this continent, Turtle
Island.”
Elizabeth May of course now sits in Parliament.
Its too bad stupidity isn’t painfull.
Maybe she’s really angry at whoever landed that hard right hook on her nose.. must have been a white male capitalist. Anyway, back to Hockey Night in Turtle Island for me…
Send her back to one of the African invaded Countries her ancestors colinized. Dos she rally think people have always stayed in one place?
Most invasions where not done by white people.
You use your land or lose it. Its been that simple all through history or we would still be Hunters gathers. Which is probably this carck pots vison of Human heaven.
JMO
So if no one is illegal then how can Turtle Island be occupied?
“Canada” supposedly belongs to everyone, yet take away the infrastructure built by generations of Canadians and all these loons aren’t anymore interested than they would be moving to the Antarctic.
The same applies for all the third world freeloaders, native aboriginal complainers and granola’s alike.
Apparently it all belongs to them, whitey get out! But can we take the buildings, parks, social programs, businesses et all with us? Hell no, that part of it stays, “we want the old ways but we be building no teepee villages in the middle of BF nowhere”. “It’s Chevy pick-up trucks, free healthcare and lots of modern bling all the way man”.
The rest of the world is tripping over themselves to get to Canada/ US for what? Smoky mountain vista’s and buffalo runs? The most flabbergasting thing about them, is that once they get here, they sh!t all over the country trying to change it over to the old country they just abandoned. The Aboriginals and Lefies love it, CHANGE and messing with the “white man” so all is good. Very messed up.
*of course I exclude most Asians, because they for the most part (certainly in the past) have adopted their new homes and it’s societies ways. That seems to be changing more now also. At least they bloody well look after themselves by working , contributing and not complaining about it.
Have some compassion for this woman, folks. Life is hard and it’s even harder when you’re stupid
That womyn is crayz
This brought back a flood of University memories.
The trick is to steamroll and not apologize. Groups like this get bogged down in process and have trouble making progress.
What are the practical applications of her group?
Answer: Nothing.
Let them circle slap on the bongos while normal folks build the world.
It shows what soft-headed pseudo-academic drivel is produced by our “education” system. It exists on state subsidy simply because it could not exist without it. Time to pull the plug on this sham. The sooner these loons are forced to confront reality and grow up, the sooner they’ll be able to do something worthwhile with their lives. The existing “education” sham cheats our young.
This strategy they have of redefining language and fabricating new terminology is extremely annoying.
“We marched with Indigenous people, migrants, poor people…”
Did they march with anyone who was employed? Or even employable?
ah.. I see from her bio that she’s studying “Transformative Education”. It’s not working, she should get her money back.
I like turtle soup…clarified turtle soup.
A whole new bowl of crazy.
Turtle Island, by the way, is an Iroquois term. Why give preference to only the Iroquois? Don’t the Inuit matter?
This girl is a robot, pure and simple. This is why a decent discussion about immigration cannot be had between leftists and the people with frontal lobes.
I could only watch about 2 minutes of this. HTF does someone become this stupid? Where does this idiotic mindset come from? My ancestors expanded into territories where they killed off the indigenous inhabitants and took over the land for themselves. They didn’t lose any sleep over it. The first settlers in N. America came here, claimed the land for themselves and they won the various wars involved in settling land ownership issues. Unlike the Spanish, the British colonials didn’t kill off all the Indians and they’re far better off now than they were 200 years ago. I’ve yet to have a Native Indian tell me they want to give up their pickup truck and rifle and go hunting on foot with a primitive bow and arrow.
I think the interviewed moron should leave “turtle island” out of respect for the indigenous people and go to the eastern part of Congo to preach her message of open borders and “no one is illegal”. Hell, I’d even support the Canadian government paying for a first class one way ticket for her to get to Congo.
She’d likely make Cabinet under a Layton administration
Holy crap, that is some kind of stupid
~The Greek
Pharmaceutical grade stupid.
“Its too bad stupidity isn’t painful.”
~ryan
If they get their way it will be painful, for all of us.
If they get their way I vote we take our pain out on people like her.
Road flares and piano wire come to mind as a thoughtful form of pain release.
They want to bring down the civilized order?
Chaos is a double edged sword, and I still have a strong sword arm.
“So if no one is illegal then how can Turtle Island be occupied?”
~Sarnia Jim
Perfect comment, too bad the interviewer didn’t ask that one.
I’ll bet she would have made a truly hilarious response!
Leftie logic is so funny.
1:28 I was done.
Any more and I’d vomit, unfortunately not on the young lady.
Takes all kinds, I know, but REALLY?
Hey, she has a point. We all know that the original Turtle Islanders welcomed newcomers with open arms and that turned out so well for them, didn’t it. Why even today, we all live in such harmony with one another and we fully respect each other’s sacred burial grounds and so on.
A couple times I thought her eyes were going to roll entirely backwards and we’d get a glimpse of the squirrel in there.
You want dignity and respect. Fine, you got it, just no free money, no free homes and no free medical. I respect you too much to demean you by giving you anything. I will respect you by letting you earn everything you need to get by.
The premise of the organization is based on an idiotic fallacy, so their choice for a spokesperson was perfect.
She’s a community organizer. Where have I seen that term before???
Its like watching a parent argue with a tiny child….
Ryan: first post
It is, but not for the stupid.
Make that Ryan @ 10:09
@chrisinmb: “This strategy they have of redefining language and fabricating new terminology is extremely annoying.”
Well… I’d like to engage you in a conversation here Chris, but you make it difficult with your distorted definitions of “redefinition”, “language”, “terminology” and “annoying”, as they are based on a false dichotomy of systematic hegemonic oppression.
ChrisinMB: Agreed. The deliberate obfuscation of language is a standard leftist tactic. It’s really a “knock over the chess board” approach. Things like, “Capitalism is murder” etc are simply ways of making any coherent, meaningful discussion impossible thereby allowing them to preserve the illusion in their own minds of having “won” the argument. It’s also the argumentative equivalent of sticking their fingers in their ears, closing their eyes and saying, “la, la, la, I can’t hear you.” It’s only frustrating if one makes the false assumption that the perpetrator of this nonsense actually wants a rational discussion. When the lefties try this rubbish on me, I call them on it and label the tactics for exactly what they are — intellectual laziness.
The irony is that no-one is forcing her to live based upon the profit motive. Hence the problem.
I finally watched the whole thing.
She is ludicrous.
I used to point out, disparagingly, to my wife that so many women wore earrings that looked like fishing lures, but this is the first woman that I have ever seen who has earrings that look like they were beer mats filched from a Disco.
The terminology thing?
We all have a right to free speech.
She doesn’t have a right to redefine the definitions of words to limit the questions of someone who is interviewing her so that she can feel comfortable with a society she rejects who share the interviewers word definitions without drawing ridicule.
Either she learns to make her point within the widely agreed upon definition of the terminology or there is no conversation.
I wouldn’t worry about her and her ilk making many converts, what I would worry about is that her and her ilk will become frustrated with their lack of progress(with their cultish terminology) and take radical actions to advance the ideas behind that radical terminology.
(if I were the Director of CSIS I’d find out who defines their terms and get real close)
eg. Weather Underground, Baader-Meinhoff, Red Brigades, Simbanese Liberation Army
A quick search revealed that in 2008 Luam Kidane was part of a Radical Feminist Soccer League. Apparently their exclusionary founding principles saw the league fold in 2009. 🙁
I’m not making this up, folks!
“Every village needs an idiot. Turtle Island has clearly found its national champion in idiocracy!”
The womyn [sic] of colour, Luam Kidane, shares her brilliant eloquence for all you simple-minded capitalist heathens! LOL
You laugh at the radical feminist soccer league, but take a look at olympic women’s hockey for a minute. We’re the only country that can put together a credible team, for cultural reasons, and it shows in the scores and in abysmal attendance. So our answer isn’t to accept that fans simply aren’t interested in watching high-school level sport and move on, but instead we lobby internationally to shoehorn this one-sided debacle that makes a mockery of faster, higher, stronger.
Unless the teams are wearing bikinis, they will need seatbelts to sell out women’s hockey in Sochi.
Dearest ‘root’,
You win the Gold Medal for … ENTIRELY missing the point!!!
root, if this Luam Kidane gets her way there won’t be any Olympics because there won’t be any nations because there won’t be any nationalities.
That said, the best thing about the Canadian Womens Olympic Hockey Team was that they smoked cigars on the ice after their gold Medal performance.(did anyone notice how pale they looked? not very ethnically diverse…)
root=max=typo. Maybe I missed the point.. it certainly wouldn’t be the first time. I’m saying that mocking some bush league soccer team is moot since everyone is forced to endure radical feminist global olympics.
I started to watch it and had to stop because I began to boil, I have had too many discussions with these people that are more interested in semantics than facts or ideas. I eventually went back and watched the rest and swore at the computer screen repeatedly. Then I remembered when you try to argue with a person who suffers from the ID ten T syndrome you lower your self to the same affliction (idiot).
Quote: “Close to one year ago, No One is Illegal joined with thousands on the streets of Toronto and dared to dream of a world without borders and fences. We marched with Indigenous people, migrants, poor people, people of colour, queer and trans people, feminists, disabled people, anarchists, anti-poverty activists, rank and file labour activists, anti-capitalists, environmental justice activists, and community organizers to confront the G20 leaders in Toronto” (cross-copied from a post by “lookout” in yesterday’s RTs).
This is standard political correctness agenda stuff — recruiting all these “victim” groups as a substitute working class for the purpose of attempting to overthrow capitalism. It won’t necessarily work, because even the supposely disadvantaged have their pride and generally prefer not to allow themselves to be used as cannon fodder by deranged Marxist thugs.
I’m not particularly concerned about the gays, immigrants, indigenous, “people of colour”, etc., who are big boys and girls and quite capable of looking after themselves.
The frigging problem is the parasitical anti-poverty activists, labour activists, anti-capitalists and related riff-raff. They’re the ones with no productive purpose in life who therefore set out to make life miserable for the rest of us. They’re the ones who need to be informed once and for all that laissez-faire capitalism is founded on the principles of justice while their own system is the epitome of evil — as both the theory and the history prove.
This is all further evidence as to why governments should cut off all funding for all activist groups immediately.
“So if no one is illegal then how can Turtle Island be occupied?”
BINGO! Another leftist contradiction exposed!
Excellent, salient expose, Knight 99 @10:29.
You have said what has needed to be said for a very long time in this nation. The whiners don’t want the land, they all want the money and the infrastructure built by our very courageous, very determined ancestors. Our ancestors built for the good of the country that their kin would live in; not for the likes of this whining sniveler. Most of the native north American Indian people liked the improved live styles that our ancestors shared with them.
This gal does not strike me as the type of person who would build a sod shack on 40 acres, out in the middle of nowhere, live in it and do without until the first crop she planted matured and was sold. Not much ‘pioneer’ in her genes if I know anything about character.
She honestly seemed to believe that her clueless bafflegab was winning the debate. I strongly suspect that when mommy and daddy stop paying the bills, reality will not be kind.
I watched that interview and thought it was like shooting fish in a barrel for Sun TV. It reminded me of the CBC when they invite some inarticulate mouth-breather on to represent the conservative viewpoint and then claim to have achieved a “balance” of views.
With this nutbar doing rebuttal to the findings of the Fraser report on immigration, Brian Lilley didn’t even have to break a sweat. I would much rather have watched Lilley use the Fraser report to confront one of the immigration industry parasites who are always praising the system that lines their pockets.
And the Turtle Island concept is part of the aboriginal creation myth, the kind of religious idea that the progressives mock when it’s used as part of the Christian religion. IN other words, they’re attempting to enforce a theocracy.