57 Replies to “Meet Shrethsa”

  1. See how dangerous those things are!?
    They should have a registry for those! And then ban people from carrying them in public. If you want to transport one from one place to another then you should need a special permit, and they ALWAYS must be locked away securely when at home. I mean really, who needs these things anyway? They only exist to kill people.
    Instead of defending the 18 year old girl who was going to be raped, they should have called the police. These vigilantes are just sickening – ruining the nation.

  2. “Police escorted Shrestha to the Railways Hospital after the rescued girl told them about his heroic deed.”
    In Canada this would read, “Police escorted Shrestha to the police station and charged him with 3 counts of murder and 8 counts of attempted murder. The 8 injured dacoits were taken to hospital and have since recovered. They are suing Shrestha for $16,000,000.”

  3. Cesare Beccaria 1733-1794
    “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.
    Such laws make things worse for the assulted and better for the assailents. They serve rather to encourage than prevent homicdes, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidance than an armed one”.
    Not much has changed in 230 years apparently.
    I think the lone Gurkha is one very brave man.

  4. I think the lone Gurkha is one very brave man.
    Posted by: Bubba Brown at February 4, 2011 10:26 AM
    Seconded. An inspiring story.

  5. Its quite a state of affairs when poor old India is a more free and civilized nation than Canada.
    If there are any lawyers out there, I wonder if there might be a class action lawsuit against the Crown in Mr. Thomson’s situation? Worth a try, or no chance?

  6. Excellant edge….
    delivers a blow like a Katana….doesn’t require the skill and strength, and can be operated in a telephone booth.
    Mine (close at hand) is not as perdy….a Garung associate made it for me from their preferred raw material….old car springs.

  7. This kind of puts into perspective the cowards on the bus when Vince Li was killing and beheading Tim Mclean. They fled like good, orderly Canadians should.

  8. Yes bull, but he had a mental problem of some sort, and of course the police had to secure the perimeter around the bus, and we know the prairie out there stretches for thousands of miles in every direction!

  9. I like his statement:
    “…taking on the dacoits in the train was my duty as a human being…”
    What’s that old saying about “all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing…”
    I worked with the Ghurkas in Afghanistan. They are the most cheerful soldiers I have ever met.

  10. According to the National Post article, Constable Nilan Dave of the Niagara Regional Police Service stated “That’s why the courts are there, to give a person an opportunity to explain their actions”.
    This does not sit well with me as it suggests that the person is guilty until proven innocent.
    Call me naive (I know I am to a large degree), but I had always been under the impression that the courts were there to ensure that the police (as representatives of the state) adequately explain themselves for interfering in the lives of the private citizen. Innocent until proven guilty.

  11. This kind of puts into perspective the cowards on the bus when Vince Li was killing and beheading Tim Mclean.
    There are differences in the situations:
    For one, Vince Lee was the only one armed and the other bus riders were unaware they had a problem until Lee had mostly sawed Mclean’s head off.
    For two, Lee came from the back of the bus and buses being tighter accomodations than trains, nobody could have got past Lee’s knife and behind Lee.
    For three, Mclean was already dead and nobody else got hurt so what was the reason the other bus riders had to put themselves at risk?
    The bus was stopped, the other potential victims debarked, and the police were summoned.
    Its quite a state of affairs when poor old India is a more free and civilized nation than Canada.
    Well India ought to be more civilized because of it’s age compared to Canada but it isn’t.
    Pitched battles where one group of Muslims burn down a Hindu neighbourhood and kill scores of people and then the Hindus retaliate and do the same to a Muslim neighbourhood happen quite frequently in India.
    Great comment Calculus.
    I agree.

  12. Would these be the same police who won’t interfere with the little darlings in Caledonia? It seems there has been some careless use of a firearm there.

  13. That’s downright insane. Masked intruders hurling Molotovs in the night, and the government of Canada expects the attacked landowner to what? Go out and ask them nicely to please stop torching the barn?
    Like hell.

  14. If you’re unlucky enough to have a Liberal or NDP MP, but a Liberal non the less….phone them and thank them for the policies regarding ownership rights, the right to self defense, and the current gun control laws. This country is just open season for crooks.

  15. Yikes! I hadn’t read about Ian when I posted – I was referring to the Ghurka.
    This “arresting and charging ‘vigilantes'” stuff is really starting to tick me off. Since when is a man not allowed to protect his property?
    When seconds count, the police are only minutes away!

  16. Give the police cattle prods. Its the appropriate tool for the today’s Canada. mooooooove along folks, nothing to see here. Oh, that’s bad!

  17. At some point in Ian Thomson’s trial, the jury should be made aware that they are sovereign and are allowed to find for what they believe is just, this includes, “not guilty on all counts”.
    The judge’s instructions, are guidelines, not absolutes.
    This of course will apply as well to that man in Atlantic Canada that scared the kids off a few months ago, the guy was a former Canadian ARMED Forces member…
    As for the idea of a man on a train with the khukuri for his personal protection, well that is his right in all countries is it not? good for him.

  18. The gut is a hero and he gets treated like criminal.
    The guys with the molotov cocktails should be the ones going to jail for a long,long time.

  19. Oz
    “For three, Mclean was already dead and nobody else got hurt so what was the reason the other bus riders had to put themselves at risk?”
    That’s the same mentality the police had while they let the dude desecrate the body for hours. If bull wants to talk about cowardice we would be remiss if we didn’t mention the people who we pay and equip to stop acts like that. Then again it’s so much easier to arrest the guys that are only defending themselves and are foolishly deferential to law enforcement.

  20. Yes, I read about Shrethsa on an American blog the other day, and commented that it’s a good thing he injured and killed those guys in India, for if he’d done so in Canada the cops would have his a$$ in the clink.
    Canada is royally $crewed up on matters of self-defense and possession of weapons.

  21. It isn’t the same mentality, M, because the police are armed and their risk is very low.
    The police had the option to use lethal(bullets) and non-lethal force(tear gas, stun guns) but didn’t.
    Contrast how those RCMP handled Lee with how they dealt with Robert Dziekanski.

  22. “Mr. Thomson said he has added extra security to his home after the firebombing and hardly sleeps anymore. The charges, he said, have destroyed him.”
    The process is (part of) the punishment. Where have we heard that before?
    It’s simple: The cops hate competition and to maintain their franchise fear must be spread near and far.
    If he had called the cops they likely would have set up a perimeter half a mile away, the house would have burned to ground and Ian injured or killed.
    google:Did Police Negligence in Cheshire, CT Contribute To Tragic Home Invasion Murders?

  23. I fear that I will end-up in jail if I’m ever witness or victim of such a thing.
    I believe that regardless of what the law says, I still have the right and obligation to protect innocents from creeps. I just hope that my kids are grown by then so the conflict of going to jail vs. raising my kids doesn’t enter the decision.
    When I was younger, I was a trouble maker and raised a lot of iSht, and I’ve been in more than my share of brawls/fights. I’ve always had a nagging feeling that one day I will be confronted with such a situation, and I’ve made a commitment to myself to act, not be a bystander.
    also, that fellow in India has demonstrated exactly how cowards will react when they are confronted by grown men. The same goes for that failed hijacking on 9/11. Just a few good men can make all the difference; but, we and our kids have been indoctrinated in school to avoid physical conflict at all costs. Even if that cost is the the life of a loved one or yourself.
    This bystander paralysis we suffer from here in Canada and the US is rooted in the fascist education system; but, I’m sure none of the teachers round here will take any responsibility for this either; but I digress.JMO

  24. Oz
    Actually Oz they did taser him after he got bored from eating a corpse for 4 hours. At that point it gets cold and kind of stringy so he made a break for it and they tased him. BZZZZTTTT.
    You’d think they’d actually go in and save the family from burying a half chewed corpse with all the other things done to it but who needs that kind of stress right?

  25. A glaring example of how dystopian law and order has become under the direction of demented progressia. Here we see the crown (knowingly) misapply the law and openly persecute a victimized civilian for a purely political purpose – the message here is big brother fears/hates citizen gun ownership and will pervert law and justice to run an official persecution of them through the police and justice function.
    Note to our ruling class “igits”: there was no justice served here and we are all aware of it. All that was accomplished was officially sanctioned injustice. Secondly we are getting fed up with social engineering being foisted upon us through the misapplication of the law and justice system. The tipping point is near.

  26. At that point it gets cold and kind of stringy so he made a break for it and they tased him. BZZZZTTTT.
    ~M
    Yeah, that’s what the media told us.
    I guessing the cops were getting near the end of their shift, wanted to wrap it up, and that’s when they tazed him.

  27. From the good old days of Anglophone Democracies’ Common Law justice: “Thus, in English law, the general common law principle is stated in Beckford v R (1988) 1 AC 130: “A defendant is entitled to use reasonable force to protect himself, others for whom he is responsible and his property. It must be reasonable.”
    No more. Ian Thomson, meet Tony Martin.

  28. i own one of those kukris….but mine has two smaller knives which fit into the larger sheath..
    …for picking your teeth or paring your nails mebbe?
    i use mine as a carving knife for dinner parties(roasts mostly…doesn’t work that well on poultry) …cause sometimes things can get out of hand and well, you know waving that sucker around gets everybody’s attention real fast..

  29. I’m reluctant to even call myself free. If I say the wrong thing, I could end up standing before the human rights kangaroo court. Lose all my money maybe. If I defend myself, I could end up sitting in jail. Bunking with some charming fellow I’m sure.
    Still, in the end, its better to be judged by six than carried out by twelve. An armed society is a polite society.
    I’m a little fuzzy on the chicken part, but if the chicken had just been replaced, it might have saved a lot of trouble. On the other hand, maybe it was a really great chicken and worth all the trouble. Strange days indeed.
    just my opinion

  30. Oz
    Well my problem isn’t the fact that they tased him. My problem is that they wouldn’t go in and tase him. They just kind of sat around for hours. If you’re endangering civilians yeah I could understand that but they’re not. I just got my back up when Bull called the passengers cowards when the police were just like “hey whats happening? I dunno we’ve been out here for hours. More coffee? sure. Pizza’s on the way eh? oh cool.”

  31. i own one of those kukris….but mine has two smaller knives which fit into the larger sheath..
    …for picking your teeth or paring your nails mebbe?
    I have one , I traded for it from a Ghurka 35 years ago, the small squared off bit is a sharpening steel, the other small knife is to draw blood from your own finger if you draw the kukris in error.Ive kept it sheathed ever since the explanation that evening in the Wainwright bar. He had had a lot to drink ( we both had) and I think he would be in big trouble for trading that knife as I think they are near sacred.

  32. I just got my back up when Bull called the passengers cowards when the police were just like “hey whats happening?
    ~M
    Same with me, that’s why I replied to Bull’s comment.
    The government and police don’t care what happens to us but they’re extremely jealous about keeping their monopoly on the use of force.
    It’s time that the government and the police didn’t have the benefit of weapons to protect them either.
    What’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

  33. How about a verdict of Not Guilty of all charges and because the “Crown” wasted his time, energy and patience, they have to pay him besides? A few decisions like that and a message would be sent. Not going to happen, I know, but it ought to.

  34. That’s not a knife….
    Different countries, different values.
    We cannot expect everyone to be a commando but we should at least be able to defend ourselves without the Crown breathing down our necks.

  35. Osumashi Kinyobe said: “…we should at least be able to defend ourselves without the Crown breathing down our necks.”
    Not really. The efforts made by the crown these last twenty years or so have been to make it extremely clear to people that it will be cheaper and easier to let their house be burnt down than to defend it.
    I’m really not kidding here, we need to all understand that this business with Mr. Thompson is not an aberration, this is official public policy in this country. We’ve just been through all this with David Chen the grocery guy who captured a shoplifter and got charged with forcible confinement, kidnapping and assault with a weapon.
    You defend your life and/or property with a weapon, be it a gun, knife, stick or a chunk of frozen cow manure, you are going to get put through the meat grinder by the cops and the crown both.

  37. I don’t know about sacred, but they are very expensive, here there or anywhere that they are traditionally made. It’s like a good sword, in the right hands it’s a formidable weapon.

  41. The two small knives are for skinning and sharpening the others.
    The ever present notch on the cutting edge is to act as a guard to prevent another blade reaching your hand….it’s called the CHO.
    That bit about a khuki having to draw blood before returning to the sheath is a myth/ghurka joke. The Garung, the Nepalese tribe from which Ghurkas come, get their first khukri before puberty. It is a ubiquitous tool, even for chopping wood. If the bloodletting myth were true all garung would die from exsanguantion(bleeding) prior to puberty.
    WW2 Allied groundtroops preferred an issue Khuki (made in England) to a machette for slashing through dense undergrowth in the Burma theatre.
    Ghurkas are basically Budhists with some grissly rituals.
    In Canada, when attacked you have a constitutional right to…RUN AWAY……..
    According to Allan Rock….self defence is a criminal offence.

  42. So, are there any defence funds being set up for these gentlemen? Why are we sitting on our hands and whining about this rather than taking action? If there’s a fund out there, I’d donate.
    What we need is a think tank/foundation aimed at defending people under fire for defending themselves, with the resources to provide them with top legal talent, with an eye to changing public attitudes and putting pressure on government to come around and recognize that defence of self and property is the basis of all other rights. To this end, we can start collecting defence funds and shaming the Allan Rock brigade in public NOW.

  43. Monique, I just said that to my husband: if there’s a defence fund for Ian Thomson, count us in. I’m going to Google that right now.
    I like the idea of an HRC War Chest too. Let’s roll!

  45. Hope the poor girl wasn’t a Muslim. That would be a case of stoning her for luring those poor train robbers.
    On the other hand, Crocodile Dundee would have been impressed with this Gurkha’s khuri.

  46. We should remember the Niagara Regional Police is the same Police force who botched the murder/rape investigation of teenagers.
    Homolka who participated in the incredible brutalizing of the young girls and probably facilitating the death of her own younger sister by Bernardo walks around free due to the incompentent performance of the Niagara Regional Police.
    They will now hide behind “the Crown Attorney made me do it” instead of manning up and recognizing a person is entitled to protect self and property before their Port Colborne property is burned to the ground.
    Why do bullies, even those who are not first nation bullies, which we recognize have superior rights and are capable of putting the Ontario Provincial Police on the run,have similar rights as first nation anarchists.
    What specific rights, religion, ethnicity, gender do the individuals throwing molotov cocktails have?
    This the net result of political correctedness and indifference or fear by the very well paid protecters of Niagara’a typical citizens. Cheers

  47. I wonder if any Canadian girly-men in the same situation would have done what Shrestha did? At least in India his actions were seen as brave and appropriate. Perhaps we can start importing some of the Indian police and judges to replace the defective ones in Ontario.
    What I find concerning is that people now grow up without learning to fight and with the attitude that one waits for the proper authorities to deal with situations. Schoolyard fights are no longer considered to be a normal childhood event and there are lots of people now who have never been in a fist fight in their life. Also, there is an atmosphere in Canada that if one just wishes away violence and bans all nasty reminders of violence that violence will vanish.
    What’s needed in Ian Thompson’s trial is for the jury to return a verdict of not guilty and I’ll be contributing to his defense fund. Everyone who contributes to Ian Thompson’s defense should send a note to PMSH letting them know that this is money that’s not going to CINO’s.
    The only mistake that Ian Thompson made was to shoot in the air. He should have shot to kill, then buried the bodies somewhere deep in the bush. Unfortunately that’s the most pragmatic approach to use in Canada’s insane legal environment.

  48. Sask.. It is a fine looking piece of metalwork..440c stainless no doubt.

  50. And Monique.. Fine idea, and I hope you have started something.

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