58 Replies to “SDA Firearm Safety Tip For December”

  1. Yeah, but can you keep ammo nearby under the current regs? Me, I go for the small safe with a handgun and charged magazine lying beside it. It meets the letter of the law in Canada and gives me access if I need it. The only regret is I wish I splurged on the fingerprint scanner model. This is the one I want: http://www.buyasafe.com/Wall-Safes-p/sl-20700.htm

  2. @rat —
    Who cares about “the letter of the law”? From my understanding, the moment you point a firearm at an intruder — even unloaded — it all goes out the window. You’re done.
    A cop advised a friend of mine, if you end up shooting an intruder, make sure you finish him off. Nice, eh?

  4. The police are only a call away…so keep your shotgun between your bed and the telephone.

  5. That devise looks like it might be a viable option, but only if you live in a country that will allow to have a shotgun.

  9. when they kick down your front door , how’ere gunna come. with your hands on your head or on the trigger of your gun?

  11. Sgt Lejaune – If I you’ll forgive me, what I think you mean to say is: “nah, mate. That’s not a recoil. This is a recoil.”
    Or perhaps: The dingo ate your shotgun!”

  18. Arguing with a gun-grabber is futile….they live in a fantasy world threatened by CO2…..
    I just agree with them…..and they go away….
    If they don’t…I just say…yeah I live in an old farm house….no need to own a gun…..real safe…Hell I haven’t had an armed home invasion for..let’s see about 5 years……..
    Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

  19. sasquatch – tonight – me: “But why is it so awful that Sarah Palin hunts? It’s meat! You’re eating meat right now! When did hunting become bad?”
    smug female dinner guest – “When they invented grocery stores.”

  20. My point being that if said dinner guest were to wander into a farmhouse, and someone should happen to be counting his ammo at the time, it would be unfortunate.

  24. In answer to the question of which choke tube to use, Cylinder Bore. You really don’t need to reach out. My thoughts are that long range trap loads are perfect (7 1/2 shot). Enormously destructive at close range and have less chance of over penetration and killing somebody that does not need killing. SSG and Slugs penetrate excessively for in-house use.

  26. To be more specific – IMO (Shotgun)
    – Cylinder Bore
    – 18.5″ – 20″ barrel length
    – 8+ round magazine
    – Semi Auto
    – Tactical mounted light
    – #4 buck – 00 buck
    – Practice

  27. Tactically outfitted guns are generally the most efficient defensive weapons. The big drawback is that it looks bad in front of a Liberalized jury, via determined prosecutor using Hollywood logic. Everyone would rather you try to defend your family from liberalized street animals with grandpaws old wooden side by side shotgun. It makes them feel warm and safer inside for some unknown reason.
    The point is that many, if not an increasing trend, of home invasions are by multiple assailants. They can be drugged out with Liberal approved rights to narcotics and almost for certain are carrying a couple of the millions of unrestricted and prohibited weapons that they personally never cared to register.
    That puts you at a big disadvantage with grandpaws old shotgun. You are left with a choice of either facing down the product of decades of liberal engineering or facing the Hollywood jury knowing your family is out of immediate danger.
    I know what my choice would be.

  30. M
    [……Knight 99
    I think the 3rd option would be to destroy the evidence and not call the cops >;)….]
    I’m not counseling anyone to commit an indictable offence(s).
    Hypothetically and academically………
    The third option has a signifigant chance of success because the brigands, in principle, didn’t tell anyone where they were going etc. and have an enemies list that looks like a telephone book.

  32. Nope, not trap loads. Bird shot may chew up flesh but it is proven to have poor penetration. At LEAST BB. I agree that large buckshot or slugs, I’d rather not shoot in the home.

  33. Kathie Shaidle 9:26
    00 buck is .33″ dia and a 20gauge has .615″ dia bore. This does not allow the pellets to stack properly in the load cup. That results in inconsistent pattern and accuracy . Get a 12gauge 870

  34. First- Kathy 00buck for a 20 guage, have to load it yourself. Don’t use the chinese gun powder the buck won’t make it out of the barrel.
    Good load for the pump. #1 Rock salt #2 7 shot #3-7 00 Buck. Just in case you want to give them a chance to run.

  35. Kathy: Sounds like it’s time to get into hand loading. It’s a much more affordable way to build your personal arsenal than buying factory loads. Remember, when it comes to ammo, there is no such thing as being ‘overstocked’.

  36. The name of my blog isn’t a joke. I really am only 5′ tall, and female. I couldn’t handle a 12. I have an 870 but it is the Children’s Super Compact Micro something something model, with the shortest l of p available as it is.
    Thanks guys!
    Meanwhile, what is the best alternative to 00 that is available for a 20 gauge and is suited for, er, big game in close quarters?

  38. A word of advice: having treated people shot by a variety of shot, I wouldn’t recommend birdshot if you are say cleaning your firearm and suddenly “have to defend your life against something determined that stands on two legs”.
    Just saying.

  39. @ Kathy: you can also buy low velocity slugs for your 20. They aren’t likely to go bouncing down the street if they even go through your exterior walls, but have the necessary effectiveness…
    Next time I go shopping I’ll pick you up some things and send them to you.

  41. My apologies for the longer post, but I need the space to make my hopefully helpful point.
    Amazingly enough, I’ve served on jury duty twice, both being murder trials. Without any help from a Human Rights Commissioner, we Waspy White Canadians were able to weigh the evidence and find the black defendant not guilty and convict the white underage ‘kid’.
    The first guy claimed self defence. I’m not breaking any rules by discussing that while there was plenty of evidence presented to assume he wasn’t the most upstanding of people, it was not proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the shooting wasn’t self-defence (sorry for all the double negatives, but even though I’m a mouth-breathing right-winger, I still managed to digest and apply all the big thinky legal stuff).
    Anyway, both murders involved money, drugs, and robbery, meaning many of the witnesses presented weren’t the most savoury of characters. Since part a juror’s duty is to assess the believability of witness testimony based upon all the evidence presented, one is more likely to accept testimony that makes sense – based upon the facts at hand – from Johnny Citizen over Jimmy Drug Dealer (and not that it’s especially relevant, but I happen to largely agree with the small (l) liberalization of drug laws, for both libertarianish reasons and ‘cut down on societal violence’ reasons. In my life, I’ve known model citizens who sell a little pot, and I’ve known violent dickheads who would be violent dickheads whether they dealt drugs or not.)
    My awkwardly made point being, I would accept any logical testimony from any witness (drug-dealer or not), if it fits with the facts at hand, even if I don’t believe ALL of their testimony
    So from a juror’s perspective, if I heard (per Allan above) “I was cleaning my guns and counting my ammo when all of a sudden….”, from a law-abiding father of four who shot an intruder (hopefully centre-mass!), I’m most likely to go right ahead and accept that testimony. Based upon my recollection of the judge’s jury charge, the self-defence claim in this hypothethical trial would be easily accepted, and as a juror I’m certainly not going to work too hard to convict Johnny Castle Defender of some asinine nanny-state gun storage charge.
    Of course I’m not advocating perjury, nor would I shirk my duty as a juror and wilfully ignore a preponderance of evidence that ‘proved beyond a reasonable doubt’ a charge for breaking a law that I as Matthew Voter might not believe should be a law…but to repeat myself, I’m not going to work too hard to convict someone for it.
    If that makes sense.
    I probably could have shortened this post by simply repeating the maxim that Sasquatch did:
    “Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6”

  44. “Where does the shovel go?” Posted by: Edward Teach
    Uh oh… now that I think of it, yesterday my GF asked me to pick a shovel up while I was shopping…

  45. Shovels?
    That Stuckinthe Mud contest suggests easier ways to deal with the after-effects of univited guests.

  46. Good idea to plan ahead.
    Scanner yesterday said five “Alberta Warriors” were in town yesterday…..whoever the phuk they are.

  48. @ Matt Hillier:
    “nor would I shirk my duty as a juror and wilfully ignore a preponderance of evidence that ‘proved beyond a reasonable doubt’ a charge for breaking a law that I as Matthew Voter might not believe should be a law”
    Actually, you are well within your rights as a juror to refuse to convict someone of a criminal act that has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt, but you believe should not be a crime. It’s called juror nullification. The trick is that the judge is not allowed to present it as an option, nor is the defence allowed to suggest it.

  49. @ Bull:
    Heh…interesting. That’s something I kinda/sorta thought was the case but since it was never relevant to the trials I didn’t bother to edify myself.
    Appreciate the information…something to read up on during the slower parts of this weekend.

  50. Kathy, if all you need is a few 20ga rounds for self defense, why not casting your own buckshot?
    Casting buckshot is very easy, you need Lee melting pot, custom buckshot mold that you can get from the folks on Cast Boolits forum, and Lee Load-All-2 press for equipment.
    Kate: One for the ceiling means you were not in immediate danger that you had time to warn them.

Proudly powered by WordPress & Skyrocket Themes

MENU

Navigation