Bronwyn Eyre, Saskatoon StarPhoenix, 18 Aug, 2010: But those who apparently find no problem in the consequent deaths of millions who die from malaria and other insect-caused illnesses — or who would rather put up with the bedbug affliction than acknowledge the wonderful efficacy of DDT — still celebrate that 1972 ban as a great victory.
Faisal Moola, writing for Drosophila, CNews, 17 Aug, 2010: These tactics have had an effect. Many people do fear change, and it’s often easier to hold onto what you have – even if you know it isn’t working – than to embrace new ideas. But beyond the scientific predictions, it’s getting more difficult every day to deny the very real and immediate impacts of climate change. Environmental damage from climate change is already killing 300,000 people a year, with an economic impact of $125 billion a year.
Related:About 3.3 billion people – half of the world’s population – are at risk of malaria. Every year, this leads to about 250 million malaria cases and nearly one million deaths. People living in the poorest countries are the most vulnerable.
Holding on to what doesn’t work, eh, Suzuki?
Silent Spring, written by Rachel Carson in the 1960’s started this whole “Save the Planet” thing.
Since she succeeded in getting all the lefties on side, they have been responsible for millions of deaths in poor countries, deaths from insect borne diseases especially.
I have often wondered if her true motive was to depopulate the world and leave it to the bugs and the bears.
“Environmental damage from climate change is already killing 300,000 people a year, with an economic impact of $125 billion a year”.
Really?
How the hell do they get away with making these kind of claims without one iota of backup?
What exactly did these people die of? Is there a coroner’s report listing cause of death as “environmental damage from climate change”? How does anybody read this crap and beleive it?
BTW, these questions are rhetorical, I’m not really expecting any answers.
If children dying of malaria is progress than we will have a lot to answer for some day…
Stuck on STUPID.
Wow. A newspaper article that was factual, concise, and lacking in emotional hysteria. Thank you StarPhoenix!
Maybe, just maybe the human race has finally jumped the shark. In the last hundred years the world has become much smaller. We see these areas of the world that are suffering from natural, NATURAL, disasters and we rush aid to them. By so doing we perpetuate, prolong, and enlarge the suffering when the next disaster strikes. In the natural world if an area cannot sustain itself the population is weeded out until only the stongest survive. We have upset this balance of nature by shipping aid and food halfway round the world to ensure that there will be a larger and weaker population that will require more aid and food in the next disaster. Look at Somalia and Pakistan, we’ve been shipping aid there for the last three or four generations and now we’re being blamed for not getting enough aid there quickly enough. When are we going to learn. When these areas of the world cannot support themselves the natural selection will kick in and the birth rate will drop, the west must steel itself into accepting that there are some things that should not be changed.
Osumashi, don’t you know…this is the plan, as according to one National Post female financial columnist and to those on the left, there 6 billion too many people on earth.
Sly and Ken stole my thunder. I was going to say that:
If your agenda is to reduce the population of 3rd world countries; banning products that save lives is a good start.
Two words: Death Cult.
“They reject the research of close to 98 per cent of the world’s climate scientists, as well as numerous scientific institutions, that shows humans are contributing to rapidly increasing global average temperatures that threaten our future on this finite planet”
From the article by David Suzuki. I wonder where he gets the 98% figure?
I guess it doesn’t matter, as long as it helps scare the hell out of the doomsayers.
The superior morality of progressive greenies.
What’s a few million dead brown or black kids when they have their greenie ideology to wrap themselves in so comfortably?
I can hear them slurping down soy lattes and dancing around in their Birkenstocks.
I don’t consider myself an anti-environmentalist just because I don’t agree with David Suzuki. That’s his word. Another loaded word like “denier”.
Do you know that many thousands of army personel died because of lice, malaria, etc? That is something that is never, ever told. The first thing they did to retreaved POW’s is to douse them head to toe with DDT. It saved many thousands of lives. Rachel Carson wrote the book without any real knowledge of the effects of using DDT. Her claims were later shown to be false. She was asked once if she felt bad for writing false effects of its use. Her reply was that it only causes problems in places like Africa anyway, so what does it matter if it kills off some of the poor pathetic black people a little earlier, it’s not like they aren’t going to die anyway. She was obviously unrepentant. There is underlying racist feelings by many on the left. Antenor, we have come out of the dark ages. I believe that under God it is my responsibility to feed the hungry and help the poor. It is not for me to decide who lives and dies, only to do my part in helping. I will have to answer for my thoughts and actions on this earth, maybe you won’t.
Soon to be 500,000,000 deaths a year and $5,000,000,000,000 economic impact because of global warming. Its just getting really bad out there.
And using DDT to kill bugs is murder.
Drosophila melanogaster – fruit fly – heh lance!
Well, maybe it’s good to have DDT for future use in our armamentarium.
By rotating out pesticides, it may be beneficial rather than constantly applying them and facilitating resistance.
S Z: The point I was trying to make is that in the Wests desire to assist and relieve the suffering we may have only increased it. I was not making a statement about race or religion.
Too bad those 300,000 corpses weren’t handed over to … “Belgian undertakers (who) have drawn up plans to dissolve the corpses of the dead in caustic solutions and flush them into the sewage system” to, you know, minimize environmental damage.
Environmentalism kills people, and it is just a malign form of liberalism. It’s as simple as that. This is the most egregious case of it; but locally thousands of people die each year on our highways unnecessarily because of government-mandated CAFE fuel standards. Insurance groups, think tanks and even USA Today (not exactly a conservative publication) have noted that the more the government mandates better fuel economy, additional people die on the roads. Q.E.D.
With the millions of people who have died of malaria (mostly children) since publication of Silent Spring, if there is an afterlife, one hopes Rachel Carson is busy shoveling coal into Hell’s flames as a reward for what she instigated.
mhb23re at gmail d0t calm
Talk about clinging to bad ideas.
Consider how many people in the Western world are still “hanging on” to socialism.
It has been demonstrated time and again that it doesn’t not and cannot work. It is a flawed idea, yet it is continually being foisted upon us.
Why?
“climate change is already killing 300,000 people a year…”
Oh yeah!
Name six.
“climate change is already killing 300,000 people a year…”
Oh yeah!
Name six.
“climate change is already killing 300,000 people a year…”
Oh yeah!
Name six.
Sorry about multiple comments – result of usual absence of patience.
Nothing happened at first click, so we click and click and click again.
I’m surprised it hasn’t appeared 20 times.
Jack
Still trying to figure out just what level of maggot Dr Fruitfly has made it to now.
Gotta be well above my red-neck Nova Scotia level.
Must be nice that his proselytizing clears his slate and allows him to live as he chooses.
But why do all those preaching at me on this topic seem to be rich and own more than one home?
Just curious.
I’d still like to have the names of half a dozen people who karked it due to GM.
Also like to know if any SDA readers understand the fine Australian term “karked it”.
I read an article claiming global warming is killing people in Moscow. What a load of garbage. The government thinks its “American ” secret weapons.
You would figure folks have NEVER heard of heat waves in summer or in the US cold waves. I guess droughts never happened before the car?
Thousands actually died daily from dysentery, yellow fever, & other miladies. They where called epidemics. Which goes to show you, our leaders are as loony as theirs.
Liberals think death is an option.
Time to put these people where they belong. On a boat far from all of us or a desert Island.
Suzuki makes us all queasy straight to the gullet. With his self aggrandizement, using fad theories as fact. To puff his own reputation up. To foll us into making him rich. What a maggot. On our dime to.
I wish I had more space to really tell you what I think of this walking bag of scum water.
JMO
Antenor, I fully agree with your post. Reading the aricles on Pakistan and the slides in China both noted that the population had cut down the forests hence there was no absorbtion of the rains and its slow release of water just flash floods. Very similar to Haiti and its deforestation.
S Z good for you helping to contribute to increasing destruction as each natural calamity happens or thoughtless welfare in our society.
Small example in Africa: the village women had to travel many miles and spend lots of time getting water while, as usual, the men sat on their ass. The children were fairly healthy and the population was stable. A UN group came in and dug a well. The women didn’t have to travel and weren’t so exhausted so the men, being men, gave them lots more children. Now all the children were not nearly as healthy with major food problems in the villages as the population grew. The UN do-gooders had left of course after another job well done never considering the consequences of their action.
“Consider how many people in the Western world are still “hanging on” to socialism.
It has been demonstrated time and again that it doesn’t not and cannot work. It is a flawed idea, yet it is continually being foisted upon us.
Why?”
Abe Froman
Because men always look for leaders, and some men always want to be leaders.
Leaders have ‘ideas’ like expanding their leadership. They create subdivisions of their leadership and appoint its own sub leaders. All these sub leaders have their own ideas…and so on.
Socialism is to attain and exercise power over others at a certain cost over others who are willing but at their own cost: Security in return.
millions of deaths in poor countries, deaths from insect borne diseases especially.
Population control in regions which have unsustainable overpopulation. Nature will try to restore balance. Human meddling only makes imbalance worse.
Soooo, lets take this over to north america shall we. Are you telling me that lending any kind of helping hand in New Orleans was a mistake? I’m pretty sure I remember a few lefties blaming Bush for not getting in there quick enough. I guess to go along with your theory we shoulda just left them to go thru that ” natural selection ” thing huh? Or is it just a problem if’n it’s over there somewhere
Ken-
d’oh!
Yes, the attempts to wipe out whole swaths of people according to their Asian or African backgrounds won’t be forgotten.
The evil fossil fuel industry offers consumers a product that provides reliable, affordable energy to heat their homes, drive their cars and enjoy a high standard of living. This “burning stuff, caveman” technology has not just survived the test of time but has been essential in increasing prosperity and lifespans.
The angelic greens force consumers via government to buy expensive, unreliable power, remote controlled “smart grid” thermostats, crappy cars and live with less disposable income….and that is a best case scenario. In practice, environmentalism, NIMBYism and BANANAism fails miserably. It hobbles economies, increases taxes, destroys jobs and, in the case of DDT bans, actually kills people.
The choice seems pretty clear to me, “Burn, baby, Burn”.
lets take this over to north america shall we. Are you telling me that lending any kind of helping hand in New Orleans was a mistake?
I didn’t say that, you did. Just focus on posting your beliefs and opinions about the subject of discussion, instead of trying to twist the words of others to fit your agenda.
BTW, the “98% of climate scientists believe…” is probably based on this survey.
“However, close examination of the source of the claimed 97% consensus reveals that it comes from a non-peer reviewed article describing an poll in which a total of only 79 climate scientists chose to participate. Of the 79 self-selected climate scientists, 76 agreed with the notion of AGW. Thus, we find climate scientists once again using dubious statistical techniques to deceive the public that there is a 97% scientific consensus on man-made global warming; fortunately they clearly aren’t buying it.”
Yep, a sample size of 79. If you think that’s bad statistics then don’t look at the Yamal tree ring temperature reconstruction. The climate scientists used about 13 trees to determine the global temps for a couple of hundred years before thermometers were invented. On this basis, they eliminated the MWP and declared present warming “unprecedented”.
Maybe if we’d have left the Mississippi Delta in its natural state instead of building levees, there wouldn’t have been the death and destruction after Katrina. All I’m saying is that we’ve jumped the shark when we try to assist against nature. You can’t compare the assistance that is renderded locally to the assistance we provide world wide. You can bet that if a Katrina were to hit the same spot ever year or even every five years people would not live there. And by the way tell me how much international aid gets to the towns in the American southeast that are ravaged by tornados every few years. No, there the people in the area pitch in and get themselves sorted out without crying to the UN. Not into discussing the rights and wrongs of it or the morality of assistance.
s.z.:
FEMA stepped in at the appropriate time according to the laws of the day.
First response to the breakdown of levees in the wake of Katrina, constitutionally, is a local, then a state responsibility.
There are reasons the levees did not hold, environmental concerns about building a better containment system being one of them.
All of which has nothing to do with the DDT ban.
syfree The levees may have had termite infestations as well as other shortcomings.
Sorry, to get sidetracked and OT.
GW is too busy supporting the troops and being villified to bail bambam’s arse out of a crack. If I were him I would let bambam turn on the spit he created for himself. Then they can blame Bush for not being as stupid as the left has portrayed him.
I think tha analogy between the ban on DDT and New Orleans is right on. Both resulted because people refused to see the the consequences of their actions.
The US Corps of Engineers turned the Mississippi into a straight pipe rather than a meandering river causing the massive 1,000s of years of silt at its delta to wash away allowing the storm resistent reed beds to gradually disappear. Allowing New Orleans to exist as a city below sea level. Filling it with huge amounts of welfare recipients that you have conditioned to do nothing except hold out their hands. The L1 Katrina undermined the levees which the state hadn’t maintained with the money provided. Welfare recipients did nothing but continue to hold out hands while entire Gulf coast got to work and repaired the damage.
DDT, same thing, the left used false info on bird eggs, anything to discredit its proven value. Restricting DDT’s use to just spraying inside the huts in poor countries would have helped immensely but the environmentalist would not hear of it.
Of course, as per usual the cloud dwellers blame everyone else never themselves for ignoring the law of unintended consequences.
Dave – re “clouds dwellers” – like it!
“Green is the first socio-political movement in which every single leader and spokesperson is filthy rich.”
http://tinyurl.com/2e4x92r
She may be talking about HRH Prince Flower Head, but the same is true for Saint Al or our very own
world class Eco-Grifter . . . the one and only Dr. Fruit Fly.
Once you realize the same people who funded the junk science in Rachel Carson’s book were the same people who drove the DDT ban through the UN. And once you accept the fact that these well heeled green zealots are also proponents of global population control (particularly of 3rd world or undeveloped populations). Their removal of the primary method to alleviate malaria in Africa And the 3rd world becomes totally logical – certainly sinister and anti-human but logical from the perspective of these depopulationists who permeate the upper echelons and funding foundations of eco-fanaticism.
The banning of DDT was a coup driven an inhumane elite class who think there are just too many of the wrong type of people on this planet.
The DDT ban, and the resulting malaria deaths, is just another manifestation of the modern form of the progressive’s “Final Solution”.
We must start with the indisputable fact that a lefty’s brain is definitely not the sharpest knife in the drawer. The ideas that they put forth have been proven time and again to be out of step with reality. Maybe this is why they constantly need “projects” to ensure that they can stay on the public purse.
Like the DDT “facts” they were based on junk science the global warming “project” is following the same path and hurting the same people the most – namely, those in underdeveloped countries.
Because the lefty’s brain cannot conceive that maybe they should try and accept indisputable fact for what it is he continually strives to build arguments based on wished for facts that, as we see with climategate, will help him hone the junk science medthodolgy to the point where the media begins to accept the lie as truth.
The difference between educated and wise is revealed when listening to greenies.
I particularly note in the Suzuki/Moola piece this sentence. “Our earliest advances were based on burning wood or dung for fuel. Now we’re still using our paleolithic trick, burning decayed organic materials in the form of fossil fuels”
‘Decayed organic materials’ ie dead trees and plants. Did it occur even once to Mr Suzuki to inquire as to how those prehistoric trees acquired the carbon in their cellular structure 150 million years ago? Could it have come from atmospheric CO2?
By the way, Mssr. Suzuki and Moola state that burning fossil fuel is an advance, a variation of burning wood or dung. Wouldn’t that mean that to shun fossil fuels is a regression?
Silly question, since mosquitoes can transfer West Nile virus from birds to humans can bed bugs
transfer blood-borne diseases such as Hepatitus C or HIV from one person to another? If yes, there could be a catastrophic epidemic on the horizon.
Meanwhile, I am going to research how to make DDT in my garage.
Malaria is probably the only thing that keeps us from drowning in brown sh1t.
DDT…..
That made possible the Allied advance into Rome.
Through the malarial swamps that flanked the south of Rome making the Allied advance the first successful taking of Rome from the south.
One of the persistant lies the warmongers propagate is that malaria is a tropical exclusive.
Dover township, south of Chatham Ont, was once a repository of malaria….many early residents were killed /infected. The Soviets had a malaria epidemic in Siberia in the ’30’s.
The Tajikstan/Afghanistan border area is malaria central…….central Asia.
Rachel Carson, Margaret Mead, Paul Ehrlick were all genocidal eugenicists……
1. The U.S. ban on spraying DDT on cotton ended at the U.S. borders. DDT has never been banned in Africa, nor most of Asia. Even under the POPs Treaty, DDT can be used anywhere with a simple notice to the treaty organization.
2. Rachel Carson was right. No piece of research she cited in Silent Spring has ever been refuted, and most not even rebutted.
3. Malaria death rates now are half what they were when EPA banned DDT use on cotton.
4. Malaria death rates now are a third what they were when DDT use was at its peak.
5. Malaria made a resurgence in the late 1980s when the pharmaceuticals used to treat the disease in humans caused the malaria parasites to evolve resistance to them. No malaria resurgence can be tied to lack of DDT.
It’s easiest not to let facts get in the way of a wrong-headed rant if one does not bother to get the facts in the first place.
“Our earliest advances were based on burning wood or dung for fuel. Now we’re still using our paleolithic trick, burning decayed organic materials in the form of fossil fuels”
Go look up “exothermic” in a dictionary. How else is stored energy extracted?
Stupid git!