44 Replies to “To The Good Citizens of Toronto Sweltering Through This Heat Wave”
Finally a disaster we can blame David Susuki for rather than George Bush!
“The transmission system serving downtown Toronto is operated at its limit, with no capacity to spare…Environmentalists, including the Ontario Clean Air Alliance, the David Suzuki Foundation, World Wildlife Foundation Canada, Peter Tabuns of the Ontario NDP and Toronto Councillor Paula Fletcher, have played leading roles in blocking the development of another transmission line into the city’s core…these environmentalists have launched a sophisticated, provincial government-backed lobbying campaign to restrict any transmission developments within Toronto to projects that would allow local generation developments to connect with the grid…”
In related news, the neighbours of a Parkdale family whose house was on fire defended their decision to disconnect fire hoses from the hydrants: “Fresh water shortages are the next big thing,” one of them lisped. “I saw it on the CBC. Try telling that to them rural folk, though.”
Pull up a chair, everybody – we’re just getting started. This whole worldly, urbane-thinking thing is solid gold.
I don’t know why we waste perfectly good $$$$’s on such nonsense. The David Suzuki library at the U of Toronto should of course be our primary concern.
I am wrong, how could I not be right thinking, each and every city should have a hallowed hall of meditation and contemplation. A place of, how shall I say it, a place of worship to the fly guy with a large and spectacular fly above the entrances to Suzuki’s libraries at every University in the country.
Imagine if you will with me for a minute gleeming white towers set in lovely pristine meadows, powered by section after section of mirrors and windmills.
Mirrors polished by those of us who are useless to society and of course we can not hope to attain the sanctity of the most Holy Suzuki.
He requires slaves to do the good works that will enable him to establish salvation on all who in their ignorance can not possibly see what he has been blessed to see.
Patience brethren the most Holy Suzuki can and must raise 10’s of millions more to complete the works that only he and he alone has foreseen.
So forsake your all worldly comforts, forsake all ambition, believe not that your filthy desire be worthy of this greenery. Only the Suzuki may make pronouncement upon such as that, and ye shall fail.
Thank you Tom Adams!Finally a report that hangs out the dirty laundry .
Mcguinty and his rainbow chasers have taken Ontario down the tubes.
What the heck does the Trillium Foundation have to do with electrical transmission?
Green blackout indeed…sounds like horizontal shifting of money…while Mcguinty looks after his friends.Why do I get the feeling that further investigation will connect the teachers union to this mess?
I’m having a good time with this story.The Trawwnna family scolded me more than once for not ‘blue boxing’ religiously…..bwa ha ha.
Toronto is still a beautiful city even at Dark 30.
environmental organizations claiming that wind power developed offshore from Toronto would help eliminate the need for real transmission reinforcement.
We can also send help.
President Bambi has vast herds of Unicorns standing by
prepared for any windmill slowdowns.
We love ours-
She turns the mill longer and faster than my wife,
and it only took two weeks to get her to eat dog food.
I can’t see the heat being a significant problem in Toronto. After all, most of the inhabitants are from countries that are located in much warmer climates than Canada. They dress appropriatley for the weather, wearing turbans, long flowing robes and face coverings.
As an electrical engineer, I offer my deepest sympathies to my brethren at Ontario Hydro, who must have had so many “bang head on desk” moments over the past years dealing with these enviro-nuts and their government enablers that they’ve probably suffered multiple concussions by now.
Fortunately I’m in the private sector and largely outside the view of said nuts. I don’t think I’d be able to tolerate dealing with them.
You beat me to it, EBD — the money quote from this article, indicting environmentalists and their blocking the development of another transmission line into Toronto’s city core. What a bunch of maroons, and I’ll bet they’re cooling their jets here in steamy TO with central air.
atric, as for the many new Torontonians who are used to this kind of heat, yesterday I saw the kind of thing that makes my blood boil, which is just what I needed in 33-degree heat, humidity index taking it up to 42: a Muslim woman in long pants, long-sleeved shirt, closed-toe shoes, and hijab, walking beside a very Muslim-looking man in T-shirt, shorts, and sandals. ‘Makes the mind boggle.
I can’t see the heat being a significant problem in Toronto. After all, most of the inhabitants are from countries that are located in much warmer climates than Canada. They dress appropriately for the weather, wearing turbans, long flowing robes and face coverings.
Now let’s not get too snarky, At. Immigrants from those warmer countries are also experienced in intermittent power supply. Consider this blackout just part of Toronto’s contribution to multiculturalism.
Help is on the way..cbc this am has a ‘fashion do’s and dont’s’ segment with Heather Hiscox (blonde bimbette supreme)and some fashionista from G&M.Good Lord,now they have to be told how to dress.
The only reason Ontario, and Toronto in particular do not experience even more severe power outages this week is that much of our manufacturing sector is idle.
Not only is the province way behind in investing for new power generation and transmission, much of the infrastructure now in place is years beyond its normal expected lifespan.
To add insult to injury, Ontarians will pay 20% more for electricity starting this month.
Windmills, solar panels and unicorns on tread mills,
The Suzuki/Dulton/Bambi solution in action.
If the good people of Ontario think a heat wave is bad, wait until they have a power out in Mid January when the temperature is -20.
At least then the beer can be kept cold.
GreenNeck: “… much of the [Toronto/Ontario] infrastructure now in place is years beyond its normal expected lifespan.”
Yeah, because most of our monetary resources are going into salaries. The Toronto councillor mentioned in the article has a STAFF OF FOUR. All these maroons are high maintenance on our dime.
It is to weep.
“Well doggies*!” Newfie Tea. Black Gold. Better’n ex-GGJ’s Voodoo seal flippers.
But, wait … here’s the Darth Vader:
>>> “our progressive regulatory regime”.
…-
“N.L. explores new offshore drilling sites” http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2010/07/08/14643946.html
(*H/T Jedd)
So the enviros are saying gereation should be local….sound familiar.
Generally this is a good idea, because of reduced transmission loss. Nothing wrong with local generation, that is until the locals have a say. It tends to stir up a s**tstorm of local protest.
The Liberals will lose a seat in the Western Suburbs of the GTA, Oakville, because they insisted on putting a gas plant in Oakville. Excuse, local generation to match demand. Now Toronto has very little generation capacity. Watch the fur fly on that one.
But the linkage is the insane idea. Toronto lacks redundancy not access to power right now. And what happened was more a cause of underinvestment in even the existing transmission capacity.
The priority would seem to be upgrade what you have to make it robust, build redundancy and add capacity last, since you dont need it now, can buy on the secodary market if need be.
But as Ian pointed out, I am sure the engineers at Hydro One have cracked skulls from eith banging their head against teh wall or slapping their foreheads at the current governments decionmaking and decisionmaking process.
Sometimes in life…not very often, what comes around, goes around.
The wonderful folks of GTA re-elected Dalton and supported David the zit. Now live with it!
Greenneck- Right on!
I had a conversation with the Head of one of Ontario’s coal generation plants. He said that McGuinty could shut down all coal fired operations and Ontario would still have a surplus of power.
The reason? To quote him ” McGuinty has de-industrialized the Province”-end quote
Right on, Tom Adams! Thanks for calling a spade a spade.
Er, wasn’t the cause of the problem failure of transmission equipment at the transformer plant? How, exactly, does another transmission line overcome this problem?
I can understand how a network operating at capacity can be difficult to maintain, especially when it’s starved for funding so idiots like Miller can use their profits to pay for more welfare. I can understand that Toronto Hydro might have wanted to expand or build additional transformer plants, but were prevented from doing so because of spurious concerns about radiation from power lines. I can understand that the problem of building redundancy into the “last mile” is prohibitively expensive in any physical network (Bell doesn’t build two sets of telephone poles on every street), so that there are going to be individual problems from time to time. But I seriously don’t understand how another set of hydro towers addresses any of those issues. To me, it’s like saying that if a truck turns over on the Don Valley Parkway, the ensuing traffic problem wouldn’t happen if only we had another expressway in the west end of the city.
It wasn’t that long ago that I remember Ontario Hydro being castigated by the public for “gold plated” engineering, when they designed in extra capacity and redundancy for their systems. As usual, doing it up front is cheaper and better in the long run than trying to bolt it on afterward, but you can never convince anyone whose hydro bill is going to go up by $3 a month that it’s worth it. As the old Fram ads used to say “You can pay me now, or pay me later”.
Yeah the GTA brethern visit not just for an environment to celebrate the Sabath with powder and shot……
I regard them more as refugees than tourists…..
IMHO…the GTA is not a great place to visit….living there is totally out of the question.
Today, July 8, here in Ottawa it is sweltering and there is hardly any air movement. Oh yeah, wind power is the answer.
I discovered the other day that if you sit on a BMW seatbelt, you can actually brand yourself on the ass with that famous logo. I’m just glad I don’t drive an Audi.
This is what happens when essential services are turned into social experiments – police into social workers, courts into rehab centers, reliable electricity production into “sustainable” eco-generation. Too many funds get diverted into unnecessary, flavor-of-the-day campaigns and not enough into core responsibilities.
Politicians are just not bright enough to be able to grasp the realities of business. To them long term planning is the four years between election cycles. They are out off office and unaccountable before the decay really sets in.
Tip for Ontario residents – buy a back-up generator.
Tom Adams for Premier of Ontario, or at least mayor of Toronto! He gets it!
Kevin B @ 9:22 How, exactly, does another transmission line overcome this problem?
See the fourth paragraph, third sentence of Adams’ article:
“The transmission system serving downtown Toronto is operated at its limit, with no capacity to spare. As a direct result, maintenance schedules are squeezed or eliminated, a factor that may well have played a role in initiating the event. The ability of grid operators to transfer load from one transmission path to another in the event of failures is severely limited, a factor that directly determined the scale and duration of the blackout. The large number of customers blacked out and the duration of blackout was a function of the system’s flawed design.”
No alternate line to route power to limited Hydro’s ability to mitigate the length and extent of the blackout.
My daughter was stuck on the subway, got off and began walking home, an hour away, in that heat. Fortunately her landlord driving by saw her and gave her a ride home. Between the riots keeping her from work downtown the week before and the power outage, she was none too impressed with TO this last little while.
😉
I love watching the Great Toronto Suicide (and the rest of Ontario) in slo-mo. One lunatic liberal policy at a time all taking Toronto down to third world functioning.
How long before rickshaws start to replace those smelly cars.
It couldn’t happen to a more deserving gaggle of bastards.
Let’s keep our eyes on small gas burning power generator sales. I don’t think all those people will wait quietly to get their air conditioners or TV going again.
“Just think of it as practice.” Kate sums up what the future holds so well.
No doubt McGuinty will be considering shutting down even more industry through other socialist policies.
Transmission issues are the least of ontario’s power worries: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2010/05/26/nb-point-lepreau-delay.html
Candu reactors are absolutely godawful (as mr Adams knows better than anyone BTW) and Ontario is essentially completely dependent on them – in part to lousy tie-ins to neighbouring power juristictions. I know one guy very high up in Ontario hydro who has a diesel gen set for his house for the inevitable day when one or more of the reactors has to be shut down indefinitely and at the very least rolling blackouts become a several months long necessity.
The cheapest and most reliable method to provide electricity locally is to set up garbage incineration plants around Toronto. Four or five of them could supply the city with a reliable source, stop them from shipping their garbage to other cities’ landfills and stop the spread of useless windmill, solar panels and other non-effective means which rely on public sector money (because the private investors know it’s a scam).
Have I mentioned that the Japanese have been using the said incinerator method for decades? I wonder why the pantheists don’t think of these things.
Fiumara,
Oddly these have been proposed a number of times and really opposed every time….in error in my opinion. The shipping of garbage 500 miles to Michigan is insane to me.
MAyor Miller opposed the inceneration plants as well. It always comes back to he would rather preach using less, whether it happens or not is another question, especially given the city continues to grow….although he and his cronies might eventually stop that.
Dear Toronto: you voted for it. Enjoy!
Lord knows, I’m enjoying watching it. I love the smell of schadenfreude in the morning.
It’s great hay making weather!
Bring on the heat!
The beans and corn are loving it!
Syd B: I discovered the other day that if you sit on a BMW seatbelt, you can actually brand yourself on the ass with that famous logo. I’m just glad I don’t drive an Audi.
Looks kinda cool if you line it up just right, Syd.
Should I ask how you know that? No, I don’t think I should.
Anyway, with my luck, one of the “O’s” would go missing.
This illustrates the utter folly of McGuinty’s Green Energy schemes. As pointed out on SDA recently from viewsfromscience.blogspot.com and I quote:
“I’m not sure there can be a much clearer illustration of why wind power doesn’t work in Ontario. Sure, you can produce electricity maybe 18.8% of the time on average, but the other 81.2% of the time you require another source of electricity, like coal”.
Canada is blessed with ample reserves of oil, natural gas, and uranium, so why do we not simply use some of these fuels to produce electricity?
McGuinty and his Green advisors believe electricity can be produded without fuel, by giant mirrors and windmills. Our great-grandparents abandoned wind power in the 19th century because fossil fuels were efficient and reliable. McGuinty, FruitFly and others would have us return to that era.
The only hope from these summer blackouts is that the MSM may begin to seriously examine some of
the consequences of McGuinty’s energy fantasies.
Somebody must have hit a nerve. The headline on this article changed, from early this morning from “Green Blackout” to “Blame environmentalists for blackout”. Wonder why?
This is clearly a AGW and GWB issue. More taxes please!
Radio? Live transmission! Video? Live transmission!
This is how the Marxists & Communists of Ontario. Voted by the denizens of Urban Toronto. Will drive the population of Toronto into the potato fields. Toronto! On a mission to live for Pol Pot great plans.
This is what kills cities. Just ask Detroit.
JMO
Ex-GGJ’s Revenge.
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“Environment Canada Issues Severe Weather Watch for Ottawa”
“If threatening weather approaches take immediate safety precautions.” http://www.cfra.com/
“Green blackout”
“Toronto desperately needs a new transmission line to prevent power failures, but environmentalists have blocked it
By Tom Adams” http://opinion.financialpost.com/2010/07/07/green-blackout/
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Red-Green Alert: Al-Reuters diddles the original report.
Al-Red-Green-Reuters edited/changed the headline and the pic.
This was removed:
>>> “Toronto desperately needs a new transmission line to prevent power failures, but environmentalists have blocked it”
“Blame environmentalists for blackout” http://www.financialpost.com/opinion/columnists/3247806/story.html
Finally a disaster we can blame David Susuki for rather than George Bush!
“The transmission system serving downtown Toronto is operated at its limit, with no capacity to spare…Environmentalists, including the Ontario Clean Air Alliance, the David Suzuki Foundation, World Wildlife Foundation Canada, Peter Tabuns of the Ontario NDP and Toronto Councillor Paula Fletcher, have played leading roles in blocking the development of another transmission line into the city’s core…these environmentalists have launched a sophisticated, provincial government-backed lobbying campaign to restrict any transmission developments within Toronto to projects that would allow local generation developments to connect with the grid…”
In related news, the neighbours of a Parkdale family whose house was on fire defended their decision to disconnect fire hoses from the hydrants: “Fresh water shortages are the next big thing,” one of them lisped. “I saw it on the CBC. Try telling that to them rural folk, though.”
Pull up a chair, everybody – we’re just getting started. This whole worldly, urbane-thinking thing is solid gold.
I don’t know why we waste perfectly good $$$$’s on such nonsense. The David Suzuki library at the U of Toronto should of course be our primary concern.
I am wrong, how could I not be right thinking, each and every city should have a hallowed hall of meditation and contemplation. A place of, how shall I say it, a place of worship to the fly guy with a large and spectacular fly above the entrances to Suzuki’s libraries at every University in the country.
Imagine if you will with me for a minute gleeming white towers set in lovely pristine meadows, powered by section after section of mirrors and windmills.
Mirrors polished by those of us who are useless to society and of course we can not hope to attain the sanctity of the most Holy Suzuki.
He requires slaves to do the good works that will enable him to establish salvation on all who in their ignorance can not possibly see what he has been blessed to see.
Patience brethren the most Holy Suzuki can and must raise 10’s of millions more to complete the works that only he and he alone has foreseen.
So forsake your all worldly comforts, forsake all ambition, believe not that your filthy desire be worthy of this greenery. Only the Suzuki may make pronouncement upon such as that, and ye shall fail.
Dr. Fruitfly won’t be happy until he drives us back to the good old days.
http://i25.tinypic.com/2l9sf1w.jpg
Thank you Tom Adams!Finally a report that hangs out the dirty laundry .
Mcguinty and his rainbow chasers have taken Ontario down the tubes.
What the heck does the Trillium Foundation have to do with electrical transmission?
Green blackout indeed…sounds like horizontal shifting of money…while Mcguinty looks after his friends.Why do I get the feeling that further investigation will connect the teachers union to this mess?
I’m having a good time with this story.The Trawwnna family scolded me more than once for not ‘blue boxing’ religiously…..bwa ha ha.
Toronto is still a beautiful city even at Dark 30.
We can also send help.
President Bambi has vast herds of Unicorns standing by
prepared for any windmill slowdowns.
We love ours-
She turns the mill longer and faster than my wife,
and it only took two weeks to get her to eat dog food.
I can’t see the heat being a significant problem in Toronto. After all, most of the inhabitants are from countries that are located in much warmer climates than Canada. They dress appropriatley for the weather, wearing turbans, long flowing robes and face coverings.
As an electrical engineer, I offer my deepest sympathies to my brethren at Ontario Hydro, who must have had so many “bang head on desk” moments over the past years dealing with these enviro-nuts and their government enablers that they’ve probably suffered multiple concussions by now.
Fortunately I’m in the private sector and largely outside the view of said nuts. I don’t think I’d be able to tolerate dealing with them.
You beat me to it, EBD — the money quote from this article, indicting environmentalists and their blocking the development of another transmission line into Toronto’s city core. What a bunch of maroons, and I’ll bet they’re cooling their jets here in steamy TO with central air.
atric, as for the many new Torontonians who are used to this kind of heat, yesterday I saw the kind of thing that makes my blood boil, which is just what I needed in 33-degree heat, humidity index taking it up to 42: a Muslim woman in long pants, long-sleeved shirt, closed-toe shoes, and hijab, walking beside a very Muslim-looking man in T-shirt, shorts, and sandals. ‘Makes the mind boggle.
I can’t see the heat being a significant problem in Toronto. After all, most of the inhabitants are from countries that are located in much warmer climates than Canada. They dress appropriately for the weather, wearing turbans, long flowing robes and face coverings.
Now let’s not get too snarky, At. Immigrants from those warmer countries are also experienced in intermittent power supply. Consider this blackout just part of Toronto’s contribution to multiculturalism.
Help is on the way..cbc this am has a ‘fashion do’s and dont’s’ segment with Heather Hiscox (blonde bimbette supreme)and some fashionista from G&M.Good Lord,now they have to be told how to dress.
The only reason Ontario, and Toronto in particular do not experience even more severe power outages this week is that much of our manufacturing sector is idle.
Not only is the province way behind in investing for new power generation and transmission, much of the infrastructure now in place is years beyond its normal expected lifespan.
To add insult to injury, Ontarians will pay 20% more for electricity starting this month.
Windmills, solar panels and unicorns on tread mills,
The Suzuki/Dulton/Bambi solution in action.
If the good people of Ontario think a heat wave is bad, wait until they have a power out in Mid January when the temperature is -20.
At least then the beer can be kept cold.
GreenNeck: “… much of the [Toronto/Ontario] infrastructure now in place is years beyond its normal expected lifespan.”
Yeah, because most of our monetary resources are going into salaries. The Toronto councillor mentioned in the article has a STAFF OF FOUR. All these maroons are high maintenance on our dime.
It is to weep.
“Well doggies*!” Newfie Tea. Black Gold. Better’n ex-GGJ’s Voodoo seal flippers.
But, wait … here’s the Darth Vader:
>>> “our progressive regulatory regime”.
…-
“N.L. explores new offshore drilling sites”
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2010/07/08/14643946.html
(*H/T Jedd)
So the enviros are saying gereation should be local….sound familiar.
Generally this is a good idea, because of reduced transmission loss. Nothing wrong with local generation, that is until the locals have a say. It tends to stir up a s**tstorm of local protest.
The Liberals will lose a seat in the Western Suburbs of the GTA, Oakville, because they insisted on putting a gas plant in Oakville. Excuse, local generation to match demand. Now Toronto has very little generation capacity. Watch the fur fly on that one.
But the linkage is the insane idea. Toronto lacks redundancy not access to power right now. And what happened was more a cause of underinvestment in even the existing transmission capacity.
The priority would seem to be upgrade what you have to make it robust, build redundancy and add capacity last, since you dont need it now, can buy on the secodary market if need be.
But as Ian pointed out, I am sure the engineers at Hydro One have cracked skulls from eith banging their head against teh wall or slapping their foreheads at the current governments decionmaking and decisionmaking process.
Sometimes in life…not very often, what comes around, goes around.
The wonderful folks of GTA re-elected Dalton and supported David the zit. Now live with it!
Greenneck- Right on!
I had a conversation with the Head of one of Ontario’s coal generation plants. He said that McGuinty could shut down all coal fired operations and Ontario would still have a surplus of power.
The reason? To quote him ” McGuinty has de-industrialized the Province”-end quote
Right on, Tom Adams! Thanks for calling a spade a spade.
Er, wasn’t the cause of the problem failure of transmission equipment at the transformer plant? How, exactly, does another transmission line overcome this problem?
I can understand how a network operating at capacity can be difficult to maintain, especially when it’s starved for funding so idiots like Miller can use their profits to pay for more welfare. I can understand that Toronto Hydro might have wanted to expand or build additional transformer plants, but were prevented from doing so because of spurious concerns about radiation from power lines. I can understand that the problem of building redundancy into the “last mile” is prohibitively expensive in any physical network (Bell doesn’t build two sets of telephone poles on every street), so that there are going to be individual problems from time to time. But I seriously don’t understand how another set of hydro towers addresses any of those issues. To me, it’s like saying that if a truck turns over on the Don Valley Parkway, the ensuing traffic problem wouldn’t happen if only we had another expressway in the west end of the city.
It wasn’t that long ago that I remember Ontario Hydro being castigated by the public for “gold plated” engineering, when they designed in extra capacity and redundancy for their systems. As usual, doing it up front is cheaper and better in the long run than trying to bolt it on afterward, but you can never convince anyone whose hydro bill is going to go up by $3 a month that it’s worth it. As the old Fram ads used to say “You can pay me now, or pay me later”.
Yeah the GTA brethern visit not just for an environment to celebrate the Sabath with powder and shot……
I regard them more as refugees than tourists…..
IMHO…the GTA is not a great place to visit….living there is totally out of the question.
Today, July 8, here in Ottawa it is sweltering and there is hardly any air movement. Oh yeah, wind power is the answer.
I discovered the other day that if you sit on a BMW seatbelt, you can actually brand yourself on the ass with that famous logo. I’m just glad I don’t drive an Audi.
This is what happens when essential services are turned into social experiments – police into social workers, courts into rehab centers, reliable electricity production into “sustainable” eco-generation. Too many funds get diverted into unnecessary, flavor-of-the-day campaigns and not enough into core responsibilities.
Politicians are just not bright enough to be able to grasp the realities of business. To them long term planning is the four years between election cycles. They are out off office and unaccountable before the decay really sets in.
Tip for Ontario residents – buy a back-up generator.
Tom Adams for Premier of Ontario, or at least mayor of Toronto! He gets it!
Kevin B @ 9:22 How, exactly, does another transmission line overcome this problem?
See the fourth paragraph, third sentence of Adams’ article:
“The transmission system serving downtown Toronto is operated at its limit, with no capacity to spare. As a direct result, maintenance schedules are squeezed or eliminated, a factor that may well have played a role in initiating the event. The ability of grid operators to transfer load from one transmission path to another in the event of failures is severely limited, a factor that directly determined the scale and duration of the blackout. The large number of customers blacked out and the duration of blackout was a function of the system’s flawed design.”
No alternate line to route power to limited Hydro’s ability to mitigate the length and extent of the blackout.
My daughter was stuck on the subway, got off and began walking home, an hour away, in that heat. Fortunately her landlord driving by saw her and gave her a ride home. Between the riots keeping her from work downtown the week before and the power outage, she was none too impressed with TO this last little while.
😉
I love watching the Great Toronto Suicide (and the rest of Ontario) in slo-mo. One lunatic liberal policy at a time all taking Toronto down to third world functioning.
How long before rickshaws start to replace those smelly cars.
It couldn’t happen to a more deserving gaggle of bastards.
Let’s keep our eyes on small gas burning power generator sales. I don’t think all those people will wait quietly to get their air conditioners or TV going again.
“Just think of it as practice.” Kate sums up what the future holds so well.
No doubt McGuinty will be considering shutting down even more industry through other socialist policies.
Transmission issues are the least of ontario’s power worries:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2010/05/26/nb-point-lepreau-delay.html
Candu reactors are absolutely godawful (as mr Adams knows better than anyone BTW) and Ontario is essentially completely dependent on them – in part to lousy tie-ins to neighbouring power juristictions. I know one guy very high up in Ontario hydro who has a diesel gen set for his house for the inevitable day when one or more of the reactors has to be shut down indefinitely and at the very least rolling blackouts become a several months long necessity.
The cheapest and most reliable method to provide electricity locally is to set up garbage incineration plants around Toronto. Four or five of them could supply the city with a reliable source, stop them from shipping their garbage to other cities’ landfills and stop the spread of useless windmill, solar panels and other non-effective means which rely on public sector money (because the private investors know it’s a scam).
Have I mentioned that the Japanese have been using the said incinerator method for decades? I wonder why the pantheists don’t think of these things.
Fiumara,
Oddly these have been proposed a number of times and really opposed every time….in error in my opinion. The shipping of garbage 500 miles to Michigan is insane to me.
MAyor Miller opposed the inceneration plants as well. It always comes back to he would rather preach using less, whether it happens or not is another question, especially given the city continues to grow….although he and his cronies might eventually stop that.
Dear Toronto: you voted for it. Enjoy!
Lord knows, I’m enjoying watching it. I love the smell of schadenfreude in the morning.
It’s great hay making weather!
Bring on the heat!
The beans and corn are loving it!
Syd B:
I discovered the other day that if you sit on a BMW seatbelt, you can actually brand yourself on the ass with that famous logo. I’m just glad I don’t drive an Audi.
Looks kinda cool if you line it up just right, Syd.
Should I ask how you know that? No, I don’t think I should.
Anyway, with my luck, one of the “O’s” would go missing.
This illustrates the utter folly of McGuinty’s Green Energy schemes. As pointed out on SDA recently from viewsfromscience.blogspot.com and I quote:
“I’m not sure there can be a much clearer illustration of why wind power doesn’t work in Ontario. Sure, you can produce electricity maybe 18.8% of the time on average, but the other 81.2% of the time you require another source of electricity, like coal”.
Canada is blessed with ample reserves of oil, natural gas, and uranium, so why do we not simply use some of these fuels to produce electricity?
McGuinty and his Green advisors believe electricity can be produded without fuel, by giant mirrors and windmills. Our great-grandparents abandoned wind power in the 19th century because fossil fuels were efficient and reliable. McGuinty, FruitFly and others would have us return to that era.
The only hope from these summer blackouts is that the MSM may begin to seriously examine some of
the consequences of McGuinty’s energy fantasies.
Somebody must have hit a nerve. The headline on this article changed, from early this morning from “Green Blackout” to “Blame environmentalists for blackout”. Wonder why?
This is clearly a AGW and GWB issue. More taxes please!
A poll that could go terribly wrong.
Question “Are you satisfied with the British panel’s conclusion that while ‘Climategate’ scientists were not always forthcoming, their science was sound?”
http://msnbc.newsvine.com/_question/2010/07/07/4630892-are-you-satisfied-with-the-british-panels-conclusion-that-while-climategate-scientists-were-not-always-forthcoming-their-science-was-sound
“A shrewd investor would be researching candle makers, and go long on kerosene futures.”
Great line.
The Financial Post yesterday ran a good article on solar: “Ontario Solar Program in Disarray”
http://www.financialpost.com/Ontario+solar+program+disarray/3247702/story.html
Radio? Live transmission! Video? Live transmission!
This is how the Marxists & Communists of Ontario. Voted by the denizens of Urban Toronto. Will drive the population of Toronto into the potato fields. Toronto! On a mission to live for Pol Pot great plans.
This is what kills cities. Just ask Detroit.
JMO
Ex-GGJ’s Revenge.
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“Environment Canada Issues Severe Weather Watch for Ottawa”
“If threatening weather approaches take immediate safety precautions.”
http://www.cfra.com/
“Green blackout”
“Toronto desperately needs a new transmission line to prevent power failures, but environmentalists have blocked it
By Tom Adams”
http://opinion.financialpost.com/2010/07/07/green-blackout/
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Red-Green Alert: Al-Reuters diddles the original report.
Al-Red-Green-Reuters edited/changed the headline and the pic.
This was removed:
>>> “Toronto desperately needs a new transmission line to prevent power failures, but environmentalists have blocked it”
“Blame environmentalists for blackout”
http://www.financialpost.com/opinion/columnists/3247806/story.html