Let’s take this one step at a time.
The CBC’s pollster of record is major Liberal donor. He plots out strategies to beat the Conservatives. And he gives that strategic advice to the Liberals in private — a fact that we only learn about because he blabbed about it to Martin.
Yet Graves appears on the CBC not as a “Liberal pollster” or “Liberal strategist” or “Liberal donor” or “Liberal”, but as the CBC’s trustworthy, neutral, reliable, independent analyst, who cares only about enlightening viewers.
What a scandal.
Could you imagine if the CBC were to hire a Tory strategist as their chief Parliamentary correspondent — while secretly allowing him to continue to work for the Conservatives, and donate thousands upon thousands of dollars to them?
It’s too absurd to even ask the question.
More at Bourque.
If nothing else, Graves has clearly demonstrated ‘progressive’ tactics on both sides of the border.
He defined his politics as ‘progressive’ early on in the segment.
Progressives, under the guise of human rights, have given the world all types of horrific suggestions … including eugenics.
What really opened my eyes to this tactic was the suggestion by a EU apparatchik that travel was a ‘human right’ and that those who did not have the money to travel should have it subsidized by the taxpayer.
In that particular suggestion, the whole ‘progressive’ agenda was exposed … the redistribution of wealth by those who purport to know better how to spend our money than we do.
These are truly despicable creatures. I cannot call them human beings.
Evans disclaimer at the end:
“We carefully examine the poll results, and after satisfying ourselves there is no danger to the leftist cause, we allow OUR interpretation to be released. Thus massageing the opinions of the sole sourced audience, and make them think anyway we want. True the internet is kicking our frickin balls, but our audience is ours to shape as we see fit. (jeeze it’s tough being a smarmy social idealist these days!)”
Now my disclaimer:
Just my opinion folks…..
Here’s the link for the l/Liberal pile up on Ezra on Evan Soloman’s Power and Politics on the CBC:
http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Politics/ID=1476691537
Paul Wells is such a liberal contrivance. What an a**hole. No credibility or integrity AT ALL. ‘Covering his butt all the time. Boy did he look uncomfortable. He wasn’t about to give anything away. I suspect that he’s making lots of do-re-mi from the CBC and the Liberal$, one way or another. Why is he stuttering all the time, surely the hallmark of a … dissembler? TOOL. TOOL. TOOL. ‘Glasses fixed? LOL! How about your moral compass, your journalistic integrity, Mr. Wells?
As for Ian Capstick: He’s an NDP DIPSTICK (or, maybe a Dickstick?)
And, why three against one? Ezra did an amazing job of jousting with three opponents (although, it has to be said that Soloman seems to be taking a few steps back since yesterday … ‘not so cocky … ‘a little more measured, duh).
As for Graves’ comment about there being, in his opinion (his stock in trade, after all), too many “homophobic” Conservatives, since when are Canadians’ views on anal sex a central political issue? — I guess since politically correct, multi-culti absurdity took over politics and our public square.
Kyrie Eleison. The world’s gone completely mad. Lord, please save us from the the “progressive” hordes, in whatever guise they manifest themselves.
Frank Graves,or Gravy as he likes to be called (LOL) is a Liberal shill, just like everyone else at the CBC, all Libturd agents and whores, everyone of them…Dangerous scary people, who’s lust for power knows no bounds… As far as Gravy’s advice to the foriegn Count, Divide@Conquer, Culture Wars, etc, isn’t that what the Libturds have always done, since the days of half-wit Lester Pearson and Disco Dictator Turdo. Good on Ezra for trying to get a word in edge-wise on CBC’s “Power@Politics” today. As usual the show is stacked with Libturd, extreme lefties like Paul Wells from McLeans, I’m sure we can all recall Wells labelling the Auditor General a “Drama Queen” when she exposed the Libturd criminal activities in regards to the sponsorship scandal. Wells was more upset about the delivery of the messenger, than the actual message…Libturd whore.
Sean used “whore” in his comment and got it posted.
I used Kyrie eleison (Lord, have mercy) and didn’t.
LOL!
The National Post has waded in on it now, regarding a letter posted from the Conservative Party…
“The letter, provided to Canwest News Service by a Conservative spokesman, responded to comments made by EKOS Research president Frank Graves to the Globe and Mail.”
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2944521
I’m guessing that’s how the news is supposed to be reported, by at least telling us up front that this was sourced through a political party, and not… and not whatever like Mr. Graves is to the CBC/Liberal Party?
Left a post on the cbc Jaffer thread. I pointed out he was a private citizen and received no contracts. Then I asked why the cbc never disclosed the Liberal tie with EKOS whose poll they publish every Thursday. Don’t think they’ll run it. I won’t check
The funniest thing in the whole video was the CBC guy trying to pretend that the CBC ensures there is no bias. What a hoot that is!
Great comments!
Anyone know why Steve Janke isn’t blogging?
The bias and contempt of the MSM has become so profound that they don’t even try to hide it anymore.
I feel like I’m living in eastern europe.
Further to Sean’s point on Paul Wells-
Well, that was quite the piling-on!
In the few words Ezra managed to slip in edgewise, you could tell Wells was seething, trying to contain himself as the camera unexpectedly catches his petulence, sipping from his mug (CBC Kool-aid??).
What a spluttering, stammering bozo! Great orator. Not!
Soloman- you’re definitely minor league material.
We all need to immediately write/email CBC ombudsman and president, along with the whichever minister funds CBC and demand that Frank Graves and
Evan Soloman be immediately terminated and that George Stomombouslusu (or however he spells his name) be told to remove himself from the board of Suzuki Foundation – NO CBC employee should be on any organization that advocates public policy and that certainly describes the Suzuki Foundation.
And don’t forget Angus Reid of the self-named polling firm. Here’s one thing he said in his book Shakedown:
“The political mania towards increasing privatization of things once held to be the responsibility of government because they were in the public interest, such as hospitals, utilities, transportation, etc., shows that the public interest is clearly secondary to financial considerations.”
Privatization is mania?
Canadian polling firms are highly suspect and I believe the media should flag the political leanings of their owners anytime they use one of their polls.
The Canadian Media In One Easy Lesson
Step-1 : Publish lots of material that pushes your own point of view.
Step-2: Commission a poll to test the effectiveness of your campaign.
Step-3: Selectively report the results to emphasize the results YOU wanted.
Step-4: Repeat as required………
CBC goes one better ….
What’s wrong with that eh?
I tried posting this a few hours ago. Here goes again, without ana* and se* being explicit!
Here’s the link for the l/Liberal pile up on Ezra on Evan Soloman’s Power and Politics on the CBC:
http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Politics/ID=1476691537
Paul Wells is such a liberal contrivance. What an a**hole. No credibility or integrity AT ALL. ‘Covering his butt all the time. Boy did he look uncomfortable. He wasn’t about to give anything away. I suspect that he’s making lots of do-re-mi from the CBC and the Liberal$, one way or another. Why is he stuttering all the time, surely the hallmark of a … dissembler? TOOL. TOOL. TOOL. ‘Glasses fixed? LOL! How about your moral compass, your journalistic integrity, Mr. Wells?
As for Ian Capstick: He’s an NDP DIPSTICK (or, maybe a Dickstick?)
And, why three against one? Ezra did an amazing job of jousting with three opponents (although, it has to be said that Soloman seems to be taking a few steps back since yesterday … ‘not so cocky … ‘a little more measured, duh).
As for Graves’ comment about there being, in his opinion (his stock in trade, after all), too many “homophobic” Conservatives, since when are Canadians’ views on ana* se* a central political issue? — I guess since politically correct, multi-culti absurdity took over politics and our public square.
Kyrie Eleison. The world’s gone completely mad. Lord, please save us from the the “progressive” hordes, in whatever guise they manifest themselves.
BTW …
Angus Reid – Ekos – Ipsos – Decima – ALL have been willing participants in assisting LIberal media to manufacture opinion and misrepresent facts to the public.
They are ALL bottom feeders.
Know your enemy.
OMMAG, I couldn’t agree with you more.
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
Our pat-the-snake, everyone’s-equal, there-is-no-evil-except-the-Christians-and-Conservatives, crappola that our kids have been learning in schools for generations under the progressive dispensation have made it much more difficult for a lot of people to discern who the enemy is (especially now that so many don’t honour the faith of their ancestors).
Thank G*d for blogs like Kate’s, where we’re kept informed about what the media refuse to cover — or what they’re outright lying about — and where we can share what life has taught us. It’s not OISE (Ontario Institute of Education [sic]) that teaches us about life, it’s the G*d of creation and LIFE itself that teaches us what’s what.
What happened to Iggy and the Liberal$?
I am not now, or ever have been, a member of the liberal party.
Sure, I’ve given 11,000 dollars to the liberal party (who pay me big money for voter research) but, hey, I am objective ????
Kory Teneycke has been showing some real potential as a spokesman for the conservative brand, IMHO. Very reasoned and calm demeanor with a firm grasp on principles and ethics of the right.
What do you think?
For a pollster, he sure doesn’t get “confirmation bias”…
snagglepuss, I agree, and Teneycke’s not bad looking, either — ‘much better looking than Frank Graves who really is the epitome of a Fat Cat.
I was thinking that it’s much better for Kory Teneycke to be free to comment on TV, which he wasn’t really able to do as the PM’s Director of Communication.
Sock it to them, Mr. Teneycke! Give ’em hell.
My thoughts too batb. A good platform to espouse viewpoints, while not bound by PMO constricts.
But don’t know if he’s that good looking:~)
The Liberals trying to pit regions of the country against one another is nothing new. They have done this since NEP when Lalonde didn’t care that the West would be hurt since Ontario would gain. The gun registry is another (most of the registration dollars coming in from the west to fund the registry centre in the east). All that is new is that the Liberals got caught this time actually saying it was a good strategy in order to get elected.
oh i dunno…that rug Graves is wearing looks like my berber carpet after my dog has sicked up on it and i’ve cleaned it with cat piss….
so he CAN’T be doing THAT well nowtimes…i xly feel sorry for the twat….but as you say very few lllieberal contracts have been coming his way lately…pity of the whirld ain’t it…….i certainly hope he hasn’t overextended himself in these for him lean economic times…i surely do…
Snagglepuss..I decided there was nothing I could add to this discussion except a compliment for Kory Teneycke…and I’m glad you and batb have noticed as well.
He deserves a lot of credit.
Did it strike anyone as odd that the self proclaimed Party of National Unity, AKA the Liberals, was the party that decided to fund the separatist Bloc with our tax dollars?
Is it common for separatist movements to be government funded?
The separatist Bloc was broke when the liberals were trying to paint the Reform party as a regional party and themselves at the only party that could hold Canada together.
But it’s tough to sell yourself as the dragon slayer when the separatist dragon is broke and toothless.
So they funded the separatists with our tax dollars.
The so called party of national unity was responsible for the rebirth of the separatists.
And it wasn’t an accident.
Why not risk the very country in a sleazy bid to keep their snouts at the trough?
Then of course came Adscam…
Here’s what I find interesting and highly significant about this whole CBC/Frank Graves thing: for five straight weekdays beginning on Monday April 12 The National made the Jaffer/Guergis affair the top story, and the Afghan “scandal” the second story, with the exception of one day, Wednesday, where this order was reversed. In each broadcast, without exception, the two stories were treated as two separate, massive, government scandals. It was during that week of coverage that Frank Graves said “(Harper’s) got to have…cold beads of sweat popping out on his brow right now. He’s got to be very uncomfortable.”
The following weekend, though, Frank Graves “tested” the Guergis affair, and…
“I am seeing some surprising results,’ he said. Although, he cannot yet disclose what he is picking up, he said that he can ‘understand why the opposition might want to drop it like a hot potato.'”
Okay, so the weekend after the CBC’s all-out top-of-the-hour attack-coverage, Frank Graves’ polling found that the attacks weren’t working for the Liberals, and were turning voters off. So how did the CBC cover the Guergis/Jaffer “scandal” the following Monday? Well, whady’a know, all of a sudden it was the eighth story in the cue – behind the Iceland Volcano, a study on different heart disease rates among different ethnic groups, new mortgage roles, a health-spa scam, a controversial damn in BC getting the go-ahead, new legislation to tighten Canada’s pardon rules, and the lap-dance teachers in Winnipeg – and the tone of the report was far more subdued.
Funny how that works, huh? Frank Graves says that the Jaffer/Guergis scandal has Harper popping “cold beads of sweat”, and the CBC goes all out, to a ridiculous extent. Then Graves finds out that, whoops, it might be making the Liberals look bad. All of a sudden, it’s not such a big story any more.
Ayep, if the CBC’s coverage isn’t working for the Liberals, adjust coverage accordingly.
Btw, Frank Graves isn’t the only behind-the-scenes Liberal appearing on CBC. On that one day – the Wednesday – when the Afghan story bumped the Guergis/Jaffer affair into second place – “We begin with new and explosive allegations today about Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan!” – the man making the “explosive allegations,” Malgari Ahmadsah, was the only person sitting at a long table – except, of course, for Ignatieff’s friend from Harvard, Amir Attaran, who was sitting right beside him.
Later in the report when Milewski was interviewing Malgari Ahmadshah outside a doorway, Amir Attaran was standing right square between the two. In the set-up shot, as Milewski was finishing his voiceover, Amir Attaran and Terry Milewski could be seen conversing and gesturing to each other. When the sound cut to the onscreen interview, and Milewski asked Malgari Ahmadsah a question, Ahmadshah looked first to Attaran – Ignatieff’s friend – before answering Milewski.
Wowee. Yassah! If any SDA regulars – or anyone else who’s not a Liberal/NDP supporter – is suffering from dangerously low blood pressure, I seriously suggest watching The National every night – you will find it medically beneficial.
Oh. Where to begin!
First of all, the CBC vetting process?? Hah! Sure the CBC monitors itself, but who in their right mind would believe that they don’t choose to report only those elements of the poll results they commission that serve their liberal agenda?
Secondly, several years ago, when I was living in Alberta, I did a little research on my own about how many people “of colour” were card carrying members of the Conservative Party then sitting in either the Alberta legislature or, from Western Canada, who were sitting the House of Commons.
There was an astonishing number of them, including both an Aboriginal man and a Black man in the Alberta legislature, and several with Indian (India) and South East Asian ancestry.
The African-Canadian, who as actually Jamaican-Canadian, was a very successful mayor for a number of years in the city where I lived. He stepped down as mayor because he wanted to run for nomination against a fellow Conservative, who was the sitting MLA for that riding. He not only secured the nomination, but he went on to win the seat in the next election. In fact, I joined the Conservative Party so I could help to nominate him.
And these jokers in the Liberal Party pretend that Alberta is sooooo racist. Not only is he still there, but since then, Alberta has also elected Lindsay Blackett, who is not only a Black man from Calgary, THE Capital City of Western Canadian Bigotry, but is a cabinet minister.
‘Nuff said. Time for Western Canada to separate.
Terry Milewski’s coronary can’t come soon enough.
Hope he’s eating too well…..
EBD,you are right. We have been given the ‘ scandal du jour’ for the last 4 years. It started within weeks of the election in 2006.CTV can say whatever they want,CBC not so. Whenever the conservatives are on air there is at least two people,usually Lib and NDP giving their contrary opinion,aided by the CBC . When a liberal has something which they deem to be important aired,the dissenting opinion is mostly expressed by the host (cooing softly) and throwing out feathers that are gently caught and sent back…It is a disgrace….Did anyone else think that the CBC’s voices of reason ,Capstick and Wells, looked very uncomfortable and worried that their connections,NDP and Liberal respectively,would be exposed.Their appearance just screams ” I am a weenie,leave me alone,I’m not gay,I just have a thing for assertive obese women”. Really take a look at these guys. They make Mercer look masculine.
According to Ezra`s blog the last Liberal Govt. gave Ekos 1600 contracts worth a total of $61 Million! Thats alot of taxpayers dollars…i wonder how much of that was returned under the table to the Liberal Party?
I think Harper should call for a complete forensic accounting to verify that this was all above board.
Also we taxpayers should be told which 12 Liberal Quebec ridings received Adscam stolen money. This was never disclosed as Gomery was not allowed to disclose this information. Were some of these MPs elected with stolen money? Are some still sitting in the house? It was our money, we have a right to know!
Frank Graves is the CBC. The CBC reflects many Frank Graves.
Its how the Liberal party would do it.
I mean you sleep with someone with crabs, guess what you get!
Canada’s Canadian Collection of cranks, crooks, criminals & roving con men.
All paid by the compliant tax payer.
Propaganda by Pod people.
JMO
Love the hypocrisy of Solomon. Every day on his program he emphasizes that on the Jaffer affair the optics are bad for the Conservative gov’t — this regardless of the fact that no contracts were ever awarded to the former MP. All the while he hammers the point that Graves has never received payment from the Liberal Party, that in spite of the pollsters comments, and in spite of the lopsided 20:1 donation differential, the polling data he provides is what should be the main focus.
Oh, and just one more thing. Ultimately I don’t know what will become of Helena Guergis. But I think it’s safe to say that she won’t be in the senate sitting across the floor from Art Eggleton.
snagglepuss@batb…I agree with your comments regarding Kory Teneyke… He really did a number on Gravy (as he likes to be called) taxpayer gravy. I wonder if the CBC will have Kory back though… The looks on the faces of Solomon, Wells and that P’er rep on Fridays P@P were quite telling, their hatred for Ezra was palpable and barely contained. I wonder how long the co-ordinated lynching and piling on of Guergis/Jaffer by the Libturds/Separaturds/P’er coalition and their media whores will go on, seeing as the Libturds need a scandal, real or imagined, in order to force an election.
Stan @ 11:35
If Quebec separated Trudeau would have lost his big toehold on imposing Socialism in Canada. Yes Kate, I’m roundabout acknowledging your “buddy” Tommy Douglas.
Quebec had to stay in a Machevellian way. That has been our biggest “divisive” issue which Trudeau and his Fidelistas could use to impose more and more Socialism on Canada.
I’ve always wondered about why the Airborne Regiment was brought in from Edmonton. Political reliability or “troops from Western Canada”?
CBC’s ombudsman response: “you got is completely wrong, that’s not at all what he was saying”.
Do you notice that twice when Tenyke looks like he was just about to make a major point, the interviewer would but in with something like, “could you get to the point?”
Hey, snagglepuss, I only said Kory wasn’t bad looking!! He’s certainly no Pierce Brosnan or _____________ — you fill in the blank!
The only thing surprising about this story isthat people are surprised by it.
After the parliamentary committee is done with Jaffer, I wonder if they could summon Frank Graves of EKOS Research, for examination of his conduct and his relationship, with the CBC and the Liberal party, before the RCMP are asked to launch an investigation, on behalf of Canadian taxpayers. I expect the CBC ombudsman, ethics commissioner and the Auditor General should also be summoned to investigate apparent conflict and possible fraud involving taxpayer funds.
In view of recent statements and revelations, once Canadians learn that Graves’ firm is paid by the CBC (funded by the Canadian taxpayer) and that Graves has contributed $11,042.72 to the Liberal Party, and contributed to the leadership campaigns of Ignatieff and Bob Rae and has been the recipient of 61 million dollars of government (taxpayer monies) contracts from the Liberals in return, Canadians will seek and demand some answers.
Canadian taxpayers are much too astute, to be duped by Graves’ clumsy and inept attempt, to claim he also contributed to the Conservatives, when on a cursory examination we find that contribution was a paltry 449 dollars to a Conservative candidate. This calculated deceitful ploy may have allowed him to publicly state that he contributed to both political parties ( hoping details would not be divulged) but it did not stand up as being candid and scrupulous, on close detailed inspection.
Recent reports in the media of his actions, and his own statements in interviews, has opened this can of worms, so appropriate players must now deal with it, since millions of taxpayer’s dollars are involved, and these are not allegations and innuendo but are a matter of fact.
Can we expect that Pat Martin will ask Graves if he received cocaine as payment for services rendered either from the Liberal party or from the CBC?
Peter B
Great comment…you should send this to Pat Martin and the Conservative Party, perhaps they will get the ball rolling. This could prove to be a big stick!
Uhh, Craig Oliver? Yassir Arafat?? :0)
Hmm shouldn’t EKOS, CBC be investigated by Elections Canada at the least on this?
Maybe not, but didn’t Frank Graves offer his opinion on how the LPOC should conduct their electoral campaign based on the publicly funded EKOS poll paid for by CBC, and then was aided in disseminating that POV by the country-wide coverage that the CBC provided for him and his less than arm’s length LPOC?
I won’t go into the obvious conflict of interest CBC has with one of their employees sitting on the Board of Directors of Suzukki’s “chariable” organization, while providing Suzuki with a mouth piece and a platform for disseminating his POV in the same way on publicly paid CBC channels.
The government of Canada (currently Conservative) should be investigating both instances and even Elections Canada should be investigating the instances where EKOS supplied polling results for CBC that had any political leanings towards the LPOC through the fact that Frank Graves (possible others at EKOS or CBC) who donated to the LPOC.
Frank Graves used public money paid to his firm to pay himself and then to donate to the LPOC? To me, not “arm’s length enough to pass the smell test. How abour each and every employee at CBC, EKOS?
Ditto on Suzuki/CBC.
Government of Canada – where are you? ADSCAM bells are ringing.
Your comment about Evan shatting in his panties was laugh out loud funny, Cal2. He was squirming around in his chair like a 4th grader who was too busy with his pals, at lunch time, to stop at the washroom on the way in to class.
Great comments everyone. Ezra and Kory were piled on; on purpose – there is absolutely no difference among the opinions of a Dipper, a Liberano or a CBC hack. All three lust after accessibility to the TAX $$ in the Fed cookie jar and the power that goes with that money; they are getting desperate…They get their sticky widdle fingies slapped by the mean old Conservatives every time they attempt to sneak into the treasury. The nasty little boys and girls are going to revolt!! They are revolting childlike buffoons, however, since all of them are too old to be bad ‘kids’ and get away with their little tantrums.
Mad Max (Bernier) represents the way the country is headed. Quebec is not the province of division, nor is Alta – the division IS the Progressives in all regions of the country. The Yukon is over half ‘Progressive’ (as defined by Glen Beck) because almost everyone up here lives on the lower 10 taxpayers dime; Progressive = militant parasite (as defined by Lenin). Didn’t Graves say he was a ‘Progressive”? What does that say about Evan, CBC, Wells, Mr. Zsohar, the Dippers, the Blocheads (to be fair, the blocheads acknowledge that they are Communists)?
Thanks for posting the links batb, Kate and Ezra – and all of you great sdaers.
Does any SDA reader ever get a phone call or an email invite to participate in a survey? I never have. You would think also that a publicly funded survey on an important public issue should be made public. All the questions and all the answers. (Respondent’s names, of course, kept private, but wouldn’t it be interesting to know how they get their sample population.)
Come to think of it, Graves’ “strategic” advice to the Liberals is good. They should follow it. It’s guaranteed to backfire.
Craig Oliver saying on the “news one can trust” or something like that, about the Jaffer/Guergis affair. He mentions the damage that has been done to the standing ruling party. He introduces the word “pariah” to describe their now position with Stephen Harper.
I have an idea that the general public are so used to Liberal scandals that this is small potatoes. As for the mention of Sarah Palin, one wonders whether Frankie boy had any tremors when he viewed his choice for the presidency.
Peter, I think we’re sick of scandal passed off as vital news, period. Scandal is just about all there is to newscasts these days and it goes on and on and on. I thought it was quite funny that one of the headlines on CBCs website yesterday was that the Tory’s weren’t losing any support in the polls as a result of the Jaffer “scandal”, as if all the trouble their reporters and spinners have gone to has been for naught. I find it quite hilarious that neither the Iggy/Taliban Jack Axis nor the MSM can do anything more than spin their wheels deeper and deeper in the mud they’ve been slinging, while the rest of us move on. I am so sick of gossip substituting for real news.
@Revnant Dream – Now that was funny, true and to the point. Pod People – I love it, I hope you don’t mind if I use it.