There aint no free lunch!
You get what you pay for!
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice shame on me!
I have a lady driven car for sale!
I voted for the ONE no more mortgage payments
won’t pay to put gas in my car!
I have a bridge for sale.
I think the first one line says it all, THERE INT NO FREE LUNCH.
Ain’t waking up a hell of a thing?
Obama has got no real fears of these people voting the other way though, they will go right back to sleep just as quick.
Just like the Y2Kyoto hoax, once these idiots realize they were sold snake oil, I’ll be pointing my finger and laughing my ass off at thier stupidity.
“Why does it take so long for certain health care things to take effect?” said Sandra Preston, a state employee in Paterson, N.J.
I’ll take “it was never about health care” for $1000.
Maybe it’s just me but that gal’s voice, the tembre, the Estelle Parsons whine…..
When I saw that video back when, it reminded me of an experience years back.
I was visiting an associate in Kenyan. His dad was a farmer. Independence was looming…
This hired hand gleefully and sincerely was wistfully anticipating *******(something unpronouncable—meaning independence). He said when it comes I shall take your car and drive it everywhere…..they guy literally had a totally fantastic impression of the coming event.
In fact a great many afro-americans anticipated electing OBOZO would bestow some sort of superiority statis to them based on race…as in afirmative action on steroids.
Musta been a big disappointment…..but then it’s all Bushe’s fault.
I’m going to start sending my Dr. invoices to my Representative, Bart Stupak with a letter thanking him, and Big Owe, for picking up the tab. Eh…
Still waiting for the update on Ms. Joseph’s Magic Mortgage…;)
“That widespread misconception may have originated in part from distorted rhetoric about the legislation bubbling up from the hyper-partisan debate about it in Washington and some media outlets, such as when opponents denounced it as socialism.
The widespread misconception was caused by dragging people who need healthcare immediately up on stages during pro-ObamaCare rallies and literally saying that it needs to be passed RIGHT NOW because these people need help RIGHT NOW.
Who would have thought that RIGHT NOW means 4 years from RIGHT NOW?
Of course we’ve been telling Lefties on the blogs that have been arguing with us in hyper-partisan fashion that all you get “right now” is to pay for something you don’t get until 4 years latter.
Lefties aren’t going to start thinking we were right about other aspects of ObamaCare either until those details are staring them in the face too.
Obama himself can’t explain the policy. He’ll ramble, obfuscate, fill his answer with misinformation.
Why can’t people understand the policy? Because it wasn’t, ever, about health care but about govt statism. It was a cover strategy to move the federal govt into a statist socialist control of the US economy, and to enable it to attack the private or capitalist economy.
After all, the govt moved in to take control of an auto company, GM. Now, this same govt is attacking a private corporation in the courts that produces cars, Toyota. Why? To reduce capitalist competition.
Health care? The agenda is to disable both the coverage and practice of private health care. Health care in the US was paid for, before, by private means. You paid for no-risk regular care yourself, and took out an insurance policy for high risk needs.
Obama’s Gang attacked this private funding of health care, both for regular and for risk health needs. His take-over means that all health care (regular and risk) will be funded by the taxpayer pool. This requires a massive amount of reserve funds in this pool. Why?
It is a proven fact that moving the payment source out of the choice of the individual means that the demand for services will increase. Without a competitive system, where the individual can choose between different doctors and their costs, and where the individual pays the regular (not risk) costs – the demand reaches a threshold where services and quality suffer.
As well, the taxpayer must now fund a massive bureaucratic support staff, the public service, to administer the funds.
The problem with the need for the reserve fund and the administration is that this will increase the costs of health care and reduce the quality and quantity of care.
People in Canada still say that ‘health care is free’ and only realize how difficult it is when they move out of the large cities to find that care is difficult to find.
Wait till those in pursuit of free health care find out Obama has unleashed 16000 new IRS agents upon them to get back what they thought was free, um, just as ‘some media outlets’ have been warning them about all along.
Who was it that coined the expression “there is a sucker born every day”? This ignorance and stupidity is what the left preys on. They give people false expectations in an effort to move their Marxist political agenda forward.
From the second link,
»…The president has begun traveling the country to talk about the new law to ordinary Americans. In Maine last week, he explained many highlights of the four-year phase-in. However, Obama’s remarks were laced with enough political rhetoric to dilute his policy message.…»
As Kate would say,
his eloquency…
Kind of like Quebec . . . requires $9 billion in financial bailout from us and demands that we continue to pay the ransom even if they go their own way.
As stupid as an Obama mortgage.
All we can do is pray… and laugh. Laugh really, really hard. We knew this would happen. But our laughter masks the dreadful knowledge of ruination. It also masks the scorn we have for the idiots who did this.
That’s what it’s really about – Obama’s Health Care isn’t about health or care. It’s about the destruction of capitalism, i.e., the private production and consumption of goods or services..and moving this into the control of the state.
Obama’s agenda is to remove the private interaction and choice of a citizen to choose and pay for his regular health care – either directly or via insurance. And to choose and pay for his risk health care – usually by spreading the cost of the risk by an insurance policy.
Equally, he’s removing the right of medical care services to administer and charge for their services.
So- the capitalist competitive interaction, which acts to regulate quality and costs, is removed. The customer can’t shop around for quality and cost of care; the medical service can’t compete in terms of quality and costs.
Moving this service into a monopoly control of quality and costs and out of the ‘regulatory eye of competition’… moves the regulation of both out of the hands of the providors and consumers of services – and into a bureaucracy.
This will reduce quality and increase costs.
[quote]As well, the taxpayer must now fund a massive bureaucratic support staff, the public service, to administer the funds.[/quote]ET
They have a good start…I have recieved 3 (three)Census 2010 forms… Triple counting sure helps 1) IN, 2)MD, 3) AZ……
Peggy was a prophet.
she didnt have to pay for her mortgage.
A majority of Americans and a good portion of Canadians are incapable of relating the impact of national politics to what happens in their daily lives. They have the twisted MSM, educational systems, and their own lack of logical thought to thank for that.
“our laughter masks the dreadful knowledge of ruination.” – Osumashi
Great little line and I think prophetic. With the Canadian economy and markets so intricately entwined with our largest trading partner – by far -, how does one best protect themselves from this man made disaster?
I’m not in the industry, but I’ve passed the Investment Funds Institute exams and as a small business person I’ve had to put money away for my retirement. And I’ve just received my first CPP cheque which I took at 60.
Rightly or wrongly, I went largely to cash some months ago. I’ve missed the rise of nearly 1,000 pts. since that time but I likely wouldn’t have sold on the increase because like everyone else, you don’t want to bail too early.
Fear and greed, baby. It’s what makes the markets. So I’m not too worried about what would be unrealized, paper profits. But no good can come of all that is taking place in the U.S. There’s just too many dark stars lining up.
Or am I just being too pessimistic….. How are you protecting yourself?
The other prophetic line? “The chickens are comin’ home to roost”. – Jerimiah Wright.
Good points No Guff. Good choice to start CPP soonest. Yes, it’s nervous days for investors. Cash may be king, but it doesn’t pay the rent. I bailed on US stocks recently due to exchange rate worries. Drinking lots of wine helps! 🙂
Quite right, Steve. Cash is king at an opportune time. And the trick on the other side is to have no ‘rent’, mortgage or other personal debt. Make every dollar your own – except for what the gov’t takes first.
My kids are in their thirties, successful, both making more money than their mother and I ever did together, and they just don’t get it. Or think they don’t have to. Example:
Last week we went to a hockey game in Victoria – free tickets for 4 of us. My daughter wanted to take her honking big SUV, I recommended we take our Fusion. Gas savings on the round trip? Probably $20. The parking next to the Save-On-Center was $10.00. I parked at the Municipal lot, less than three blocks away, for $3. Walking time to/from – proably 15 min. round trip. So I figured I made (saved) about $21/hr. by walking, and got some valuable exercise.
And I wish I could somehow see her get how simple it is, because her own financial life is a compete mess.
To get back on track, yes I have lost the economic opportunity of the market increase – could have been $20K – $25K if I SOLD NOW. But I probably I wouldn’t, because I’d be enjoying the ride.
But the downside can come swiftly and then you find yourself in the maelstrom of riding a wave that has crested and not knowing whether to bail or to ride it down, hoping against hope that it’s not what you’ve been afraind it might be, all along.
Indeed. Drink lot’s of wine. Here in B.C. I can recommend a solid and consistently drinkable red – Franciscan Vineyards Burgundy – for just $7.99
It’s: “There’s a sucker born every minute.”
Usually attributed to P.T. Barnum.
Quite right, Steve. Cash is king at an opportune time. And the trick on the other side is to have no ‘rent’, mortgage or other personal debt. Make every dollar your own – except for what the gov’t takes first.
My kids are in their thirties, successful, both making more money than their mother and I ever did together, and they just don’t get it. Or think they don’t have to. Example:
Last week we went to a hockey game in Victoria – free tickets for 4 of us. My daughter wanted to take her honking big SUV, I recommended we take our Fusion. Gas savings on the round trip? Probably $20. The parking next to the Save-On-Center was $10.00. I parked at the Municipal lot, less than three blocks away, for $3. Walking time to/from – proably 15 min. round trip. So I figured I made (saved) about $21/hr. by walking, and got some valuable exercise.
And I wish I could somehow see her get it, because her own financial life is a compete mess.
To get back on track, yes I have lost the economic opportunity of the market increase – could have been $20 – $25K, but it is predicated on my selling those investments today – which I likely would not do, because I would be enjoying the ride too much.
Fear and greed baby, that is what drives the markets – and they can change pretty darn quickly. Then you begin riding the maelstrom of a falling market, wondering whether you should get off now or hope for the best.
Way too much debt and government spending for anything good to come over the next year, so I am going to remain comfortable in my decision. Big spending can only result in high taxes to pay for what has already been spent, let alone maintanence of the programs everyone has come to expect.
Be ready for a generally lower standard of living.
This is the third or fourth time that I have seen or heard the ‘suntan tax ‘ mentioned as part of the health care plan. How f’en stupid are these people? I can imagine some inner-city mom waiting for her gas and mortgage vouchers trying to explain this concept to her fatherless,but educated and inquisitive child.”Lookee here son,it don’t cost nothing because the President is going to make all those suntanning people pay for it,and you know that we ain’t ever going to be using any fancy tanning bed,just like Mr. Obama and his kin.”
There aint no free lunch!
You get what you pay for!
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice shame on me!
I have a lady driven car for sale!
I voted for the ONE no more mortgage payments
won’t pay to put gas in my car!
I have a bridge for sale.
I think the first one line says it all, THERE INT NO FREE LUNCH.
Ain’t waking up a hell of a thing?
Obama has got no real fears of these people voting the other way though, they will go right back to sleep just as quick.
Just like the Y2Kyoto hoax, once these idiots realize they were sold snake oil, I’ll be pointing my finger and laughing my ass off at thier stupidity.
“Why does it take so long for certain health care things to take effect?” said Sandra Preston, a state employee in Paterson, N.J.
I’ll take “it was never about health care” for $1000.
Maybe it’s just me but that gal’s voice, the tembre, the Estelle Parsons whine…..
When I saw that video back when, it reminded me of an experience years back.
I was visiting an associate in Kenyan. His dad was a farmer. Independence was looming…
This hired hand gleefully and sincerely was wistfully anticipating *******(something unpronouncable—meaning independence). He said when it comes I shall take your car and drive it everywhere…..they guy literally had a totally fantastic impression of the coming event.
In fact a great many afro-americans anticipated electing OBOZO would bestow some sort of superiority statis to them based on race…as in afirmative action on steroids.
Musta been a big disappointment…..but then it’s all Bushe’s fault.
I’m going to start sending my Dr. invoices to my Representative, Bart Stupak with a letter thanking him, and Big Owe, for picking up the tab. Eh…
Still waiting for the update on Ms. Joseph’s Magic Mortgage…;)
“That widespread misconception may have originated in part from distorted rhetoric about the legislation bubbling up from the hyper-partisan debate about it in Washington and some media outlets, such as when opponents denounced it as socialism.
The widespread misconception was caused by dragging people who need healthcare immediately up on stages during pro-ObamaCare rallies and literally saying that it needs to be passed RIGHT NOW because these people need help RIGHT NOW.
Who would have thought that RIGHT NOW means 4 years from RIGHT NOW?
Of course we’ve been telling Lefties on the blogs that have been arguing with us in hyper-partisan fashion that all you get “right now” is to pay for something you don’t get until 4 years latter.
Lefties aren’t going to start thinking we were right about other aspects of ObamaCare either until those details are staring them in the face too.
Obama himself can’t explain the policy. He’ll ramble, obfuscate, fill his answer with misinformation.
Why can’t people understand the policy? Because it wasn’t, ever, about health care but about govt statism. It was a cover strategy to move the federal govt into a statist socialist control of the US economy, and to enable it to attack the private or capitalist economy.
After all, the govt moved in to take control of an auto company, GM. Now, this same govt is attacking a private corporation in the courts that produces cars, Toyota. Why? To reduce capitalist competition.
Health care? The agenda is to disable both the coverage and practice of private health care. Health care in the US was paid for, before, by private means. You paid for no-risk regular care yourself, and took out an insurance policy for high risk needs.
Obama’s Gang attacked this private funding of health care, both for regular and for risk health needs. His take-over means that all health care (regular and risk) will be funded by the taxpayer pool. This requires a massive amount of reserve funds in this pool. Why?
It is a proven fact that moving the payment source out of the choice of the individual means that the demand for services will increase. Without a competitive system, where the individual can choose between different doctors and their costs, and where the individual pays the regular (not risk) costs – the demand reaches a threshold where services and quality suffer.
As well, the taxpayer must now fund a massive bureaucratic support staff, the public service, to administer the funds.
The problem with the need for the reserve fund and the administration is that this will increase the costs of health care and reduce the quality and quantity of care.
People in Canada still say that ‘health care is free’ and only realize how difficult it is when they move out of the large cities to find that care is difficult to find.
Wait till those in pursuit of free health care find out Obama has unleashed 16000 new IRS agents upon them to get back what they thought was free, um, just as ‘some media outlets’ have been warning them about all along.
Who was it that coined the expression “there is a sucker born every day”? This ignorance and stupidity is what the left preys on. They give people false expectations in an effort to move their Marxist political agenda forward.
From the second link,
»…The president has begun traveling the country to talk about the new law to ordinary Americans. In Maine last week, he explained many highlights of the four-year phase-in. However, Obama’s remarks were laced with enough political rhetoric to dilute his policy message.…»
As Kate would say,
his eloquency…
Kind of like Quebec . . . requires $9 billion in financial bailout from us and demands that we continue to pay the ransom even if they go their own way.
As stupid as an Obama mortgage.
All we can do is pray… and laugh. Laugh really, really hard. We knew this would happen. But our laughter masks the dreadful knowledge of ruination. It also masks the scorn we have for the idiots who did this.
That’s what it’s really about – Obama’s Health Care isn’t about health or care. It’s about the destruction of capitalism, i.e., the private production and consumption of goods or services..and moving this into the control of the state.
Obama’s agenda is to remove the private interaction and choice of a citizen to choose and pay for his regular health care – either directly or via insurance. And to choose and pay for his risk health care – usually by spreading the cost of the risk by an insurance policy.
Equally, he’s removing the right of medical care services to administer and charge for their services.
So- the capitalist competitive interaction, which acts to regulate quality and costs, is removed. The customer can’t shop around for quality and cost of care; the medical service can’t compete in terms of quality and costs.
Moving this service into a monopoly control of quality and costs and out of the ‘regulatory eye of competition’… moves the regulation of both out of the hands of the providors and consumers of services – and into a bureaucracy.
This will reduce quality and increase costs.
[quote]As well, the taxpayer must now fund a massive bureaucratic support staff, the public service, to administer the funds.[/quote]ET
They have a good start…I have recieved 3 (three)Census 2010 forms… Triple counting sure helps 1) IN, 2)MD, 3) AZ……
Peggy was a prophet.
she didnt have to pay for her mortgage.
A majority of Americans and a good portion of Canadians are incapable of relating the impact of national politics to what happens in their daily lives. They have the twisted MSM, educational systems, and their own lack of logical thought to thank for that.
“our laughter masks the dreadful knowledge of ruination.” – Osumashi
Great little line and I think prophetic. With the Canadian economy and markets so intricately entwined with our largest trading partner – by far -, how does one best protect themselves from this man made disaster?
I’m not in the industry, but I’ve passed the Investment Funds Institute exams and as a small business person I’ve had to put money away for my retirement. And I’ve just received my first CPP cheque which I took at 60.
Rightly or wrongly, I went largely to cash some months ago. I’ve missed the rise of nearly 1,000 pts. since that time but I likely wouldn’t have sold on the increase because like everyone else, you don’t want to bail too early.
Fear and greed, baby. It’s what makes the markets. So I’m not too worried about what would be unrealized, paper profits. But no good can come of all that is taking place in the U.S. There’s just too many dark stars lining up.
Or am I just being too pessimistic….. How are you protecting yourself?
The other prophetic line? “The chickens are comin’ home to roost”. – Jerimiah Wright.
Good points No Guff. Good choice to start CPP soonest. Yes, it’s nervous days for investors. Cash may be king, but it doesn’t pay the rent. I bailed on US stocks recently due to exchange rate worries. Drinking lots of wine helps! 🙂
Quite right, Steve. Cash is king at an opportune time. And the trick on the other side is to have no ‘rent’, mortgage or other personal debt. Make every dollar your own – except for what the gov’t takes first.
My kids are in their thirties, successful, both making more money than their mother and I ever did together, and they just don’t get it. Or think they don’t have to. Example:
Last week we went to a hockey game in Victoria – free tickets for 4 of us. My daughter wanted to take her honking big SUV, I recommended we take our Fusion. Gas savings on the round trip? Probably $20. The parking next to the Save-On-Center was $10.00. I parked at the Municipal lot, less than three blocks away, for $3. Walking time to/from – proably 15 min. round trip. So I figured I made (saved) about $21/hr. by walking, and got some valuable exercise.
And I wish I could somehow see her get how simple it is, because her own financial life is a compete mess.
To get back on track, yes I have lost the economic opportunity of the market increase – could have been $20K – $25K if I SOLD NOW. But I probably I wouldn’t, because I’d be enjoying the ride.
But the downside can come swiftly and then you find yourself in the maelstrom of riding a wave that has crested and not knowing whether to bail or to ride it down, hoping against hope that it’s not what you’ve been afraind it might be, all along.
Indeed. Drink lot’s of wine. Here in B.C. I can recommend a solid and consistently drinkable red – Franciscan Vineyards Burgundy – for just $7.99
It’s: “There’s a sucker born every minute.”
Usually attributed to P.T. Barnum.
Quite right, Steve. Cash is king at an opportune time. And the trick on the other side is to have no ‘rent’, mortgage or other personal debt. Make every dollar your own – except for what the gov’t takes first.
My kids are in their thirties, successful, both making more money than their mother and I ever did together, and they just don’t get it. Or think they don’t have to. Example:
Last week we went to a hockey game in Victoria – free tickets for 4 of us. My daughter wanted to take her honking big SUV, I recommended we take our Fusion. Gas savings on the round trip? Probably $20. The parking next to the Save-On-Center was $10.00. I parked at the Municipal lot, less than three blocks away, for $3. Walking time to/from – proably 15 min. round trip. So I figured I made (saved) about $21/hr. by walking, and got some valuable exercise.
And I wish I could somehow see her get it, because her own financial life is a compete mess.
To get back on track, yes I have lost the economic opportunity of the market increase – could have been $20 – $25K, but it is predicated on my selling those investments today – which I likely would not do, because I would be enjoying the ride too much.
Fear and greed baby, that is what drives the markets – and they can change pretty darn quickly. Then you begin riding the maelstrom of a falling market, wondering whether you should get off now or hope for the best.
Way too much debt and government spending for anything good to come over the next year, so I am going to remain comfortable in my decision. Big spending can only result in high taxes to pay for what has already been spent, let alone maintanence of the programs everyone has come to expect.
Be ready for a generally lower standard of living.
This is the third or fourth time that I have seen or heard the ‘suntan tax ‘ mentioned as part of the health care plan. How f’en stupid are these people? I can imagine some inner-city mom waiting for her gas and mortgage vouchers trying to explain this concept to her fatherless,but educated and inquisitive child.”Lookee here son,it don’t cost nothing because the President is going to make all those suntanning people pay for it,and you know that we ain’t ever going to be using any fancy tanning bed,just like Mr. Obama and his kin.”