133 Replies to “The Tolerant Left”

  1. Fact: The demonstrators were not violent. Ann, like she does, lied about “liberal blogs telling people to bring rocks and sticks”, without anybody being able to find any evidence of this.
    Fact: Ann and Ezra claim the cops shut it down, when in fact that deny this, saying they chose to shut it down, probably to create yet another rightwing pity party.
    Fact: Telling somebody that Muslims shouldn’t be allowed on planes and that they should go ride a camel is indeed a joke, a racist one. It’s like joking about Jews and money, or Blacks and watermellon, and it has no place in a university.
    And as for this… “Muslims on planes IS an issue; after all, the only people seeking to blow up planes are Muslims, and they are quite public and open about this agenda.”
    Actually so do Sikhs apparently. But if one billion Muslims should be banned from flying due to the actions of a few individuals, how’s about this… we should ban the Irish from bars, because they use to blow up pubs in the 80’s.
    And let’s not forget that conservatives should be banned from purchasing fertilizer. After all, it was Timothy Mcveigh, a radical conservative who blew up the FBI building Oaklahoma killing 165 people. Clearly conservatives can’t be trusted around fertilizer because they’ll just use it to build bombs. (Besides, you guys make enough of your own fertilizer)

  2. K Stricker,
    What do you suppose the chances are that Seamus Wolfe’s twitter account is a phony created by a rightwing student to protest the OU student union’s rejection of Coulter’s posters?

  3. Posted by: rgraham4444 at March 24, 2010 2:51 PM
    That address is where the IP address linked above originates.
    Said IP address is where the following message to Kathy Shaidle originated. In part it said,
    “I’d snap you in half if you tried your bullshit with me in person.”
    The oh so tolerant left indeed.

  6. Posted by: rgraham4444 at March 24, 2010 2:51 PM
    That address is where the IP address linked above originates.
    Said IP address is where the following message to Kathy Shaidle originated. In part it said,
    “I’d snap you in half if you tried your bullshit with me in person.”
    The oh so tolerant left indeed.

  7. Whether it was intended or not, these developments show without doubt what our media is and what the real intent of those who run the university system in this country are all about.
    As with the HRC they cloak themselves in all sorts of nice sounding rhetoric about free speech and freedom. Their actions, however, are much clearer in revealing their intent: THEY hate. THEY ( University of Ottawa, CBC, Media in general in Canada)do not intend to allow anyone they disagree with to be able to speak freely because they are afraid of ideas and the free exchange of ideas. The Muslim girl who baited Ann in London was there by intent to bait not to freely listen to ideas that do not agree with hers. Ironically, she would be the first victim of those whose intention is to shut down any ideas that do not agree with theirs.
    This is not free speech. It is indeed hate speech. They hate anyone they do not agree with and march and agitate to end any discussion at all. They deprived upward of 2000 people from hearing what Ann Coulter had to say. These people wanted to attend this event and a few prevented them from doing so. No free speech in Canada and no freedom of movement either. University of Ottawa and Houle should be ashamed of themselves. And their brand of censorship should be denounced all across this land.
    I would also like to have freedom from ‘attitude’ coming from on air ‘hosts’ or ‘anchors’ around this country whose delivery exhudes a dripping snarly distaste for Ann Coulter and anyone who defends her rights and those who came to hear her. Her rights are our rights and they were trampled and abused last night. This is shameful but they have no shame. They do however have a sanctimonious and superior attitude that engenders the barf reflex when seen or read or heard!

  8. Whether it was intended or not, these developments show without doubt what our media is and what the real intent of those who run the university system in this country are all about.
    As with the HRC they cloak themselves in all sorts of nice sounding rhetoric about free speech and freedom. Their actions, however, are much clearer in revealing their intent: THEY hate. THEY ( University of Ottawa, CBC, Media in general in Canada)do not intend to allow anyone they disagree with to be able to speak freely because they are afraid of ideas and the free exchange of ideas. The Muslim girl who baited Ann in London was there by intent to bait not to freely listen to ideas that do not agree with hers. Ironically, she would be the first victim of those whose intention is to shut down any ideas that do not agree with theirs.
    This is not free speech. It is indeed hate speech. They hate anyone they do not agree with and march and agitate to end any discussion at all. They deprived upward of 2000 people from hearing what Ann Coulter had to say. These people wanted to attend this event and a few prevented them from doing so. No free speech in Canada and no freedom of movement either. University of Ottawa and Houle should be ashamed of themselves. And their brand of censorship should be denounced all across this land.
    I would also like to have freedom from ‘attitude’ coming from on air ‘hosts’ or ‘anchors’ around this country whose delivery exhudes a dripping snarly distaste for Ann Coulter and anyone who defends her rights and those who came to hear her. Her rights are our rights and they were trampled and abused last night. This is shameful but they have no shame. They do however have a sanctimonious and superior attitude that engenders the barf reflex when seen or read or heard!

  11. The difference between conservatives and socialists/liberals is *illustrated* by the shutting down of Ann Coulter’s freedom to speak at a university to which she had been INVITED.
    Would the U of Ottawa do this to Bill Maher?
    Both Coulter and Maher use hyperbole, satire and edgy humour to make their points. Coulter for the right, Maher for the left.
    Conservatives have yet to try to shut down the free speech of Bill Maher.
    Funny, eh.

  13. “The Muslim girl who baited Ann in London was there by intent to bait not to freely listen to ideas that do not agree with hers.”
    Hahahahahahahahahah!
    Seriously? she baited Coulter? Are you that delusional? Coulter trades in this sort of filth. That’s her deal. She can’t open her mouth without feces spraying from her throat. You can’t blame other people for that.
    What the clip. Coulter, and all the bigots who cheered the comment re the flying carpet, are dinks. They, (and you) are part of the problem.
    And No-One re the violence… one guy’s report of another guy brandishing a sign in the passion of the moment, however inappropriate this activity might be, hardly supports Coulter’s claim that the event was violent.
    And re “5 feet of Fury… I could barely read the insane ramblings. What does this even mean:
    “‘Aw, isn’t it cute? She can TALK and everything!!” Is the blogger shocked that a Muslim is capable of speech? Sounds like it. This is fairly typical of racists to feign shock that the object of their venom behaves like a human being.

  14. I’m confused, does this mean that Isreal Apartheid Week is still on or not?
    I mean if Coulter’s comments about muslims are above the pale, racist, hate-speech. Than what is calling for the destruction of Isreal and for the death of Jews?

  15. O’s “Blackout” “White House”.
    No ploblem for the left; after all, O is the “first black president” of the USA.
    Now, that “ultra-orthodox Jewish boy” is a problem.
    The Muslim is an “Arab”.
    …-
    “Blackout as Israeli leader leaves White House
    An ultra-Orthodox Jewish boy looks at a poster with a Palestinian flag showing US President Barack Obama receiving a medal from an Arab
    Binyamin Netanyahu due to fly home after extraordinary three-day visit to Washington without even an official photograph”
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/

  16. John, I once surfed onto an Islamofascist website that called Christ (and I quote) “a monkey on the cross”. How blistering it was to hear that being uttered but I’m not surprised. People can be judged not by what they love but by what they hate. I can gather from your nonsense, the “random” baiting Muslim girl, the brownshirts seen last night and the idiots who wrote the offending passage that as much as they like to dish it out, they won’t take it. There will be no peaceful exchange of ideas or understanding of others’ feelings, thoughts or views with these guys. Just blind irrationality and hatred. You’ve said it all and we get it.
    Not to blow my own horn but I have a (humourous) poll that might sort out this acceptable speech mess.

  17. Thanks, No-one, for that link.
    Will CTV and CBC report that?
    I kinda doubt it.

  19. And just so we’re clear, belonging to a group that challenges the name of Israel, does not mean she wants to kill Jews, stop them from flying on planes, or converting them to Islam, or “perfecting them”.
    It could be as simple as being angry that the Palestinians have been forced off of their land, which they have. That’s a fact. They were there first, before hundreds of thousands of immigrants moved onto the scene, and citing ancient prophecies, proceeded to take over.
    It’s not unreasonable, evil, or even remotely terrorist-friendly to be angry with Israeli policy.
    And you guys… you make loads of assumptions about this young woman while knowing nothing more than this group, and yet you give Coulter a free pass.
    That’s why people call you bigots, and rightfully so.

  20. Absolutely astonishing: Rita Valeriano, a U of zer0 protester and a women studies (sic) student, accuses Ann Coulter of “hatred” while promoting hatred against conservatives and Miss Coulter.
    And, then, there’s Sameena Topan, a conflict studies [WT …?] and human rights major at the U of zer0, who said, “We have a large group of students that can very clearly outline the difference between discourse and discrimination.”
    She’s kidding, right? Or deluded? Or stupid?
    Topan’s discrimination against Ann Coulter effectively deprived U of zer0 students of any “discourse” – and, instead, gave them a mini-course in hatred, thuggery, and blackboots.
    These U of zer0 students and their disgraceful provost, Francois Houle, have shown their true colours and they’re brown, as in brownshirts. The acts of violence as part of the protest and the cancellantion of Ann Coulter’s talk are an utter disgrace. ‘No academic freedom here, no upholding of human rights, no freedom of expression. G*d help us that the “progressives” actually think they’ve won some kind of victory. The black hole of strangulating political correctness just got bigger.
    As Kathy Shaidle so aptly puts it: Canada sucks.

  21. The only bigots John are the leftwing twits and their Islamists’ buddies who used alleged threats of violence via throwing food at Ann. Of course over turning a table and intimadating the volunteers was fascists icing on the cake.Setting off a fire alarm is typical of the fascists’ left juvinile streak. The only haters are the people who wanted her silenced and censored, and today in this country we woke up and saw the self same face the Nazis are known for when they silenced their critics. The left are being watched, mocked and held in contempt and it’s only going to get worse John.

  22. Batb, they haven’t won anything, no more than a spoiled child has won when mummy buys him a chocolate bar to silence him (let’s not forget that ride home!). The people who have lost out are the people who paid to see Ann Coulter. Who will compensate them?
    I will not call anyone “progressive” if they silence people in such a manner. Just saying.

  23. batb,
    What violence? Please specify what was violent about the protest. Loud. Impolite. Annoying? But violent? Show the proof.
    Now as for Rita Valeriano, here is what she had to say to the National Post:
    —-
    “Rita Valeriano was one of several protesters inside the hall who, with chants of “Coulter go home!” shouted down the International Free Press Society of Canada organizer who was addressing the crowd.
    Ms. Valeriano, a 19-year-old sociology and women’s studies student, said later that she was happy Ms. Coulter was unable to speak the “hatred” she had planned to.
    “On campus, we promise our students a safe and positive space,” she said. “And that’s not what (Coulter) brings.”

  24. Was anyone arrested?
    From the looks of it there was no mob. Levant manufactured this whole thing and pulled the plug on his own event.
    If there’s one thing conservatives love it is to feel aggrieved and feel that the world is out to get you.
    Go on feed your victim complex, it feels good doesn’t it?

  26. Ok John – I will spell it out for you. She has no objection with Muslims flying on planes – what she has a problem with is terrorists flying on airplanes. As it turn out most terrorist have Mohamed in their name, her gripe is that a possible way to detect terrorists is to pay special attention to people boarding planes with the name Mohammad, but this is not allowed due to complaints, rightly so I might add, from peaceful Muslims. Yet, astonishingly, the peaceful Muslims who are not part of the terrorist community DO NOT speak out against the radical Muslims that are using their Muslim religion as an excuse to perform acts of terrorism – enforce Sharia law and make thier whole religion look bad. Why are they not speaking out against the terrorism committed in the name of their religion. Why are they not excommunicating Imam’s that wholly support acts of terrorism and danced in the streets after 9/11? That was Ann’s point John. Silence can be, and often is, interpreted as approval

  27. Osumashi,
    Unlike the moon landing, which has loads of video and photos, there is no record of any violence, aside from the one eye witness who saw a guy looking like he might use his sign to get into a fight.
    But don’t let that get in the way of a pity party.

  29. There is a very disturbing development — Coulter has revealed that her security people were learning before the event that the Ottawa police were involved in setting up pretexts for cancelling the speech. In other words, they were allowing themselves to be used as private agents of the radical students and the Marxist university administration.
    If this isn’t open revolution, given the context of denial of constitutionally protected freedom of speech, then what is it? I believe this illustrates that revolution is happening right under the noses of the federal government, and that current opposition MPs are probably part of it, as are prominent public servants and well-known public figures in the “human rights” industry.
    These revolutionaries need to be put in their place and our constitution needs to be restored.
    Meanwhile, our parliament is playing stupid, meaningless games rehashing imaginary “wedge issues” from the darkest depths of Scott Reid’s imagination.

  30. john – you are missing the point.
    A particular speaker was invited to a university campus. This speaker is known for her outspoken, in-your-face style of speaking and is conservative rather than ‘progressive’. So?
    Instead of dealing with her coming to the campus as a speaker, the university provost wrote her a letter, effectively claiming that her speech would be filled with hate, and warning her not to do this. This pre-judgment was offensive.
    Then, the student union decided against her, refusing to allow posters advertising the speech in the student union hall but allowing posters asking for protesters against her to show up. This is clear bias and fomenting of hatred on their part.
    There were hundreds of people lined up for the event; then, about 30 protesters showed up. I am taking my data from the posts by various people who were actually at the event. The protesters were ‘in-your-face’ loud – fine, the sad thing is how they refused to allow free speech and instead, tried to insert Their Will against those who actually wanted to hear Coulter and come to their own conclusions.
    Do you think it is appropriate for someone else to tell you what you should think about someone? After all, you are offended by those of us who are telling you ‘what to think about Coulter’. You reserve the right, don’t you, to come up with your own opinions. So, why do you reject the right of people to listen to her, and, using their own reason, come to their conclusions?
    Then, someone pulled a fire alarm. And, the university administrators and the police felt that they couldn’t deal with the situation. And, there were more people who wanted to hear Coulter than the hall could hold. THEY cancelled the event.
    My own view is that Houle, the man who wrote the insulting letter to Coulter ‘not to speak hatefully’ was incensed that she leaked the letter to the press, where he was criticized, and got ‘his own power’ back, by ensuring that the event was cancelled.
    Again, free speech puts the onus for deciding what is good and bad on the listener. They can either listen and critique, or ignore it, or listen and accept. But it’s their job and their right. No Big Boss has the right to take that task away from you.
    Oh – and the carpet and camel exchange? The young Muslim girls asked for such an exchange with her comment that she can’t ‘fly on a carpet’; getting a response of ‘use a camel’ was deserved.
    IF she has instead asked a reasoned question of, ‘Since you advocate rejecting Muslims on air flights, then, what do you think a non-terrorist Muslim should do when they need to travel by air”? …possibly that would have generated a reasoned answer.

  31. john, check out eye witness accounts of the students — or the one very big student protester — that knocked over a table, trying to block the entrance.
    The fact that protesters set off the fire alarm is violence in my books. There was no fire and they deliberately did this to create chaos and bring the fire department and the police to the scene.
    These tactics are thug tactics, below the belt tactics, and have ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with honouring others’ human rights to freedom of expression.
    The fact that these people and their toadies in the media consider this protest to have been “progressive” and a win, shows how completely out of touch they are about what true freedoms are all about. Along with any freedom comes responsibility and the understanding that they need to be extended not just to those with whom you agree but to those with whom you disagree.
    Otherwise we’re not talking freedom but favouritism and crony-ism.

  32. “On campus, we promise our students a safe and positive space,” she said. “And that’s not what (Coulter) brings.”
    But Ahmadinejad does?
    You apologists for shutting down free speech are not rational.

  34. Re: John at March 24, 2010 3:47 PM
    “What do you suppose the chances are that Seamus Wolfe’s twitter account is a phony created by a rightwing student to protest the OU student union’s rejection of Coulter’s posters?”
    Approximately zero. If you can read, that tweet is over a year old.

  35. No-One,
    “Ok John – I will spell it out for you. She has no objection with Muslims flying on planes – what she has a problem with is terrorists flying on airplanes”
    Riiiiiight. That’s what all the fuss is about, because, you know, us liberals think terrorists should be allowed on planes. Where do you buy your crack? She said Muslims, (not terrorist Muslims) should use flying carpets, or camels.
    And this isn’t the only example of her bigotry. There are dozens of examples. She’s a rat, and I guess, so is everyone who defends her.
    Don’t even know why I bother. She could be dressed like the Grand Dragon and you guys would still defend her and should out that liberals are with the t’rrists.

  36. I wonder how impressed the children at the university are about all this?
    Perhaps we should ask them.
    After all, they must BE children is they have to be protected from any unapproved or, gasp, controversial thoughts that they might have been exposed to had Ann been allowed to speak.
    Are their minds truly as weak and fragile as Houle and the rest of the self appointed wet nurses think?
    They must be that weak minded, because after all Ann Coulter, according to her critics at least, is the very personification of racism and evil and her mere gaze would turn the kids into jackbooted Nazis.
    There is no way the students could be expected to listen to her and weigh her arguments themselves and make their own minds up about whether she makes sense or not, right?
    That would be far too much to ask of a 20 something, it’s better to have them wait until they are 40 or 50 before they are allowed to think for themselves.
    If I was a student there I’d be insulted by their nanny state attitude and obviously low opinion of my mental state and intellectual ability.
    Perhaps Houle and his henchmen are simply projecting their own gullibility and inability to have a rational thought of their own onto the entire student population.

  37. Dear John;
    For the last time:
    Islam isn’t a race.
    Islam is a belief system, masquerading as a religion to exploit our human rights “religious protections”.
    It currently manifests worldwide as a vile, repressive and supremacist political movement that degrades women and encourages violence against identifiable groups, including homosexuals, Jews, Christians, its critics, and other infidels in general.
    Islam provides to the majority of women under its umbrella the status of cattle – in other words, a useful, but disposable commodity. This is expressed in the hideous garments they coerce and shame them into wearing.
    Yet it seems that despite the above observable facts, a mere “camel” comment is capable of arousing you to a level of hatred that I don’t generally permit here.
    That means you are willfully misinformed, a self-hating leftist, or most probably – both.
    Now, is that clear enough for you, John?

  38. O.M.G. “Use a camel”: oh horrors.
    One thing we know about Islamists is that they have absolutely no sense of humour. That line, “use a camel” is really funny, given the context of the response (see ET above). In fact, much of what Ann Coulter says is very funny, if you have a sense of humour, meaning if you’re not a rabid leftard.
    Now, even a sense of humour is outlawed because of political correctness. That’s sad.
    ‘Pity party?
    I don’t think so. We feel genuinely aggrieved that thugs and partisan politics masquerading as “human rights” advocates have actually trampled all over human rights, all over freedom of expression.
    As I said in an earlier post, the black hole of political correctness in Canada is growing larger and the accompanying coercive “progressivism” (you disagree with me? I’ll get you and your little dog too, ah-hahahaha, ah-hahahaha) is advancing at an alarming pace.
    I’m genuinely offended by what happened on the campus of the U. of zer0 last night — but, hey, I’m a conservative so who the Hell cares? Certainly not the official freedom of expression/speech advocates at our universities — places where one would particularly expect an openness to diverse opinions, rather than a pull-up-the-drawbridge-and-draw-and-quarter-the-opposition mentality and strong-arm tactics.
    Melanie Philips has a new book out called “The World Turned Upside Down,” the title of which seems to encapsulate what’s happening in official Canada (http://www.melaniephillips.com/).
    Maybe there should be a university course on the decline and fall of Western Civilization, alongside women’s studies, conflict studies, and human rights studies which seem to be doing their damndest to make sure that Western Civilization is destroyed.
    Kyrie Eleison.

  39. Kate,
    It’s funny that you’re accusing me of hate, when I’m the guy calling somebody on their bigotry.
    I’m not sure if you are aware of this, but in this country, freedom of religion is guaranteed under the Charter of Rights and freedoms.
    This means that it’s against the law to discriminate against individuals based on their religion. You might not like it. You might believe it’s just a “belief system masquerading as a religion”, but that’s just your own rather hateful opinion. One that could easily be applied to Evangelical Christians, Catholics, Jews, or whoever.
    As for the camel comment… what is it if not racist? How is this not like linking a Jew to money, or a Black person to fried chicken?
    It was a stupid, hateful thing to say, especially in context of denying 1 billion people access to modern methods of travel.
    Once again, no violence was documented. The police did not shut down the event, Coulter’s own person made that call. And she looooves it. It’s going to sell her some more books, because nothing gets conservatives all fired up more than feeling like they’re being picked on.

  41. Ann Coulter is a master of lazy racist comedy, quite simply she’s one of the best.
    “take a camel.”= classic comedy.
    They don’t make em like Ann anymore I tell ya, Ann Coulter is a throwback to generations past when casual ignorant racism flourished in society.
    Without Ann around, how would we truly know how far we’ve come? This lady is doing us all a public service, she’s a walking monument to our bigot forefathers and criminally forgotten foresisters.

  42. God, that black woman in the picture is the UGLIEST troll I have EVER seem.She’s got a mouth (pun intended) that could swallow a whole watermelon. Of course I doubt she is a Canadian.

  43. “As for the camel comment… what is it if not racist”
    Its impossible for that to be a racist comment. Muslims are NOT a race but rather a religion.

  44. Stan:
    “There is no way the students could be expected to listen to her and weigh her arguments themselves and make their own minds up about whether she makes sense or not, right?
    That would be far too much to ask of a 20 something”
    Hey Stan- Don’t lump us all in there together, some of us 20 somethings do have a few brain cells to rub together. I feel this is a mostly a pejorative Eastern Canada problem, as all my cousins out that way are indoctrinated up to their eyeballs and can’t think a damn for themselves (NDP/Green Party Morons to be sure).
    I really can wait till the Calgary response comes in, but I’d bet my ass it will look like a vastly different picture of Canada for Ms. Coulter.

  46. Ah yes let us all take our cues from “Horny Toad” on what is and isn’t racist.
    “God, that black woman in the picture is the UGLIEST troll I have EVER seem.She’s got a mouth (pun intended) that could swallow a whole watermelon. Of course I doubt she is a Canadian.” = Not racist.
    “Take a camel” = not racist.
    If only we were enlightened as you.

  47. Omumashi,
    Both the University and the Police in Ottawa have put out statements today saying the organizers(Levant) cancelled their own event. No one was arrested, no was assaulted no matter how many times you say so.
    It’s pretty rich to organize an event then cancel it yourself and claim you were muzzled.

  48. So Kate,
    About not allowing a certain level of hate on your website… what do you call this:
    “God, that black woman in the picture is the UGLIEST troll I have EVER seem.She’s got a mouth (pun intended) that could swallow a whole watermelon. Of course I doubt she is a Canadian.”
    You may now proceed to argue that Black people do love their watermelon, and that she does have a really big mouth.
    Osumashi, show me the text msgs. And then show me reporting on the sticks and rocks people allegedly brought, but the police didn’t notice.

  49. Scott:
    “University and the Police in Ottawa have put out statements today saying the organizers(Levant) cancelled their own event.”
    That doesn’t exonerate the University staff member for the letter that was sent or the students actions in anyway. Just because nobody was shot and kill, doesn’t make their protest of someone else’s free speech any less offensive!
    The environment that was created was clearly one that was not condusive to giving a speech, fire alarms and all that. Looking at the sheer rage on that black chicks face, I would be conserned for the crowd members, if I was Levant.
    Last time I read the little sign over the fire alarm, it told me that it was punishable by law to pull the alarm without due cause…I wish some of the protesters had been fined for that at least!

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