This could catch on.
Today Shonan Maru No.2 sunk something off the starboard bridge….”*
That said, some people seem to interpret my delight in the watery fates of millionaire eco-terrorists as “whale hatred”. This is both illogical and unfair.
As much as I enjoy this, I don’t really hate whales.
At least, not like I hate seals.
sasquatch, I think (and I’m often wrong) that even North Americans are coming to the end of their “patience” tether. By that I mean that people are inwardly happy if pirates disappear, if profiling is used in airports, and if the difficult questions on immigration get asked. There are probably many people from the Philippines ready to come here and work. Would they be a net benefit to society? Absolutely. Other nations? Well, some are more problematic than others.
Eric Larsen, I wouldn’t want to eat a whale either.
I wouldn’t hold eating or harvesting whales against a people, that includes the Japanese and their offshoot descendents the Inupiat, who have an unbroken tradition of doing it.
They’ve been harvesting whales since before the industrial revolution.
If they wanted to sell me a whaleskin coat I would buy it.
I’m guessing that the Greenpieces trimaran runs on some sort of carbon fuel and emits CO2, which Greenpeas is a leading advocate against.
What do others think of this hypocrisy?
Really, if Greenpeas loved whales why wouldn’t they want the oceans to rise 20 ft.?
I know that Grey Owl, Ward Churchill’s spirtual prototype, would side with the beavers if it meant turning all the land into Kevin Costner’s Water World(TM).
Oz, you’ve made me think a bit. Because I was going to say that I’m all over the Inupiat (thanks for that word BTW) doing their hunting, because it’s traditional, blah blah blah.
But then, maybe the Japanese have always whaled too?
Maybe I’m just allergic to the technology used that I know will be used to hunt whales to extinction. It is just our way, the human way.
Our population will follow lag phase, log phase, plateau and then death, just like the bacteria in a jar. There’s really no point in fighting it, it will follow the prisoner’s dilemma, so all of the AGW stuff is irrelevant.
We just have to lead “good” lives, so our kids have as good a life as possible, and hope that we don’t screw up the world too much.
The only “void” they fill is their bank accounts, with the money of hopeless dupes.
There’s room for all Gods creatures….right next to the mashed potatoes.
There’s a Japanese subtitled version of this same collision where you see a green laser used against the whalers. They should have been rammed again into next week.
Eric Larsen, the worlds oceans are all connected and they are a very big place.
Bigger than the area of the earth that is dry land.
Whales are going to be around for a long time yet, especially if we are entering a new Ice Age.
As large as the oceans are, the Japs or anyone else have as much right to deal privately with dogged interlopers out there in the great blue expanse as the interlopers have to harrass them.
Greenpeas got off easy, this time.
There is no international law or any law at all out there if there is no law agency to enforce a law present.
Envirowackos would be wise to consider that fact.
These people are parasites depending on their prey to follow rules that they themselves flaunt.
Sea Shepherd Laser video link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6MymqeXhl0&feature=related
Oz, maybe it’s just me, but I don’t think things are so simple. For example, most of the whales that spend summer in Alaska are from the Hawai’ian population, and they can make the migration in less than 40 days. We don’t know what perturbation will occur if man screws up the life cycle of these mammals.
We’ve domesticated many mammals, and the last aurochs was killed in 1627, (the progenitor of cattle). We know land animals, we can see them.
I’m not so sure we should be so sanguine about marine mammals, and fish. Cheers!
I’m not so sure we should be so sanguine about marine mammals, and fish.
~Erik Larsen
I agree.
For instance I don’t think people can make luxurious statements like “most of the whales that spend summer in Alaska are from the Hawai’ian population, and they can make the migration in less than 40 days. We don’t know what perturbation will occur if man screws up the life cycle of these mammals.”
It’s a really big ocean and we don’t know much about “whale life cycles” or know what “most of the population means” in terms of reality.
For instance what have the experts been telling us about polar bear populations lately?
Scientists and doctors are constantly uttering definitive statements to demonstrate their authority in areas where they really know a lot less than they are letting on.
I’ve lived long enough to know this.
That said, I’ve never petted a whale and the only ones I’ve seen apart from one or two in a tank in Vancouver were on the TV or in pictures just like the dinosaurs I’ve seen.
The fact that the dinosaurs are all dead now has little impact on my life and the lives of other people I know.
When and if the whales are all gone I’ll still be experiencing them the same then as I am now today.
The impact of environmental activists, particularly Greenpeace, is a lot larger and more far reaching in my life than whales.
I care about the activists and their enablers a whole lot, and not in a good way.
What if all the whales and seals disappeared tomorrow?
What would those environmental activists be doing with their time then?
What were they doing, or their mentors doing, when the cod banks were being wiped out?
Nothing good or worthwhile, I’m sure.
Oz, I just don’t know. I know what I see, and even then it’s not always the truth.
One thing I do know, is that science has been irrevocably tainted by the whole Global Warming mess. People like fame, and people like money. Corrupting, in science as it is in politics
Corruption runs only as deep as the consequences of being found out.
If there are no real consequences for the corrupt, the corruption runs long and deep.
Where are the consequences?
Until I see consequences I won’t care about the issues that scientists or politicians tell me they think are important.
Global Warming?
A hoax.
H1N1 pandemic?
A hoax.
I don’t need the stress that comes with actually believing these unaccountable charlatans and my Give-a-Crap-O-Meter is, at this point, pegged to zero for the foreseeable future.
It’s the crisis mongers that I’m focused on and I don’t give a crap what crisis they’re peddling.
I don’t want to solve their crisis or dance to their tune,… THEY are the crisis …whales, seals, the Earth can abide on the outer fringe of perception.
Shame on the Japanese for leaving that wreckage there, should go back and RUN IT OVER until it sinks. Instead of leaving the floating photo op for the gullible to whine over.
As to seals, I was in N. Califonia recently listening to a park ranger about how a few miles up the coast the seal colony had been cruised by a pod of Orcas. Apparently that panicked the seals *INTO* the water.
Bad move. Orca are smart and hunt in teams, and while they will rarely mess with seals on rocks, in the water…they rule. As the ranger described it it it wasn’t so much a feeding frenzy as a methodical herding of cattle into the shute. Net result, a very well fed pod, and 50% of seal colony is gone. Burp.
The other tourists looked appalled that Orca would do such a thing.
Whales like seals because they are made of meat.
Kids are made of meat. Don’t let your kid pet the nice whale.
you haven’t met my kids…
maybe a coat would be too heavy
or friends would say, that coat makes you look like a d–k.
http://www.examiner.com/x-5585-Offbeat-News-Examiner~y2009m12d24-SUV-maker-pulls-back-on-whale-foreskin-interior-option
Wow! The Obama administration don’t really hate terrorists. At least not as much as S.E.A.Ls.
I had rancid codfish once. It tasted like seal.
Whales should not be hunted. They are more intelligent than most of you on this blog.
ok4ua – yeah, but so what? They ain’t armed!
Alternatively: It’s the Japanese hunting them. Are you a RACIST!!!???
Or, to quote Homer Simpson (you want what, DeRochefoucault?): “If he was so smart, how come he’s dead?”
I’m not much of a fan of Greenpeace, but it did look like the Japanese whaler deliberately rammed the environmentalist’s boat.
That is not an appropriate response to someone chasing away whales and ruining your catch.
Of course, if the Greenpeace guys were doing something that endangered the crew of the whaler that would be different. And while I wouldn’t put it past the Greenpeace folks, I haven’t seen any evidence of it.
Are you that stupid????
Just saw the video of the eco-terrorists shooting arrows at the whaler.
I withdraw my previous comments. Congratulations to the whalers on their successful defense of their lives and property.
PS: Apparently the eco-terrorists are idiots. Arrows vs a Boat? That’s like taking a BB gun to attack a tank.
ok4ua – Stop judging other cultures, dude.
(Actually I have nothing against whales, just aggressive hippies.)
I’d like to nominate these Sea Shepherd guys for a role on Mantracker. There’s nothing more fun than watching hippies get run down by men on horseback.
You really are that stupid!!! What kind of obtuse jobs do you have? Security guard? Hamburger Chef? Gas jockey? I can’t even imagine you doing anything very important.
hey dude you’re so stupid it hurts.
If you like whales so much why don’t you marry one?
And then you could cheat on her with a seal.
ok4ua: “hey dude you’re so stupid it hurts.”
Well – who could argue with such a succinct, intelligence-proving analysis as THAT?
Welcome to the bear cage, shitwit. I personally think that any ammo that can be used on hippie no-lobes like you should never be used on a whale first. I remember the ruckus surrounding the first authorized Makah whale hunt in decades. You won’t remember it ok4ua – it was when you were stil in elementary school, back in 1999. The Greentards showed up en masse and attempted to block the hunt – yet another spectacular example of correctness disappearing up its own ass, as the rights of First Nations are trampled in favor of the rights of whales, my golly, how DO they choose?
The Makah had a .50-cal rifle, and all I could think was “please, dumbass-hippies, get in the line of fire at the wrong time…”
Alas, only the whale was killed. Disappointing but still a happy outcome.
BTW ok4ua – why don’t you tell us about the wonderful contributions YOUR job achieves? I’m a technical writer for a healthcare corporation. We make radiology and cardiology imaging systems.
You drooling lobotomized patchouli-stinking dole scum…