
Fair and balanced: In the interests of “not believing your own lying eyes” a guy in a boat says all of this new ice is rotten.
PS – Oh look! The Port of Churchill is stil open! For all the good it’s going to do them.

Fair and balanced: In the interests of “not believing your own lying eyes” a guy in a boat says all of this new ice is rotten.
PS – Oh look! The Port of Churchill is stil open! For all the good it’s going to do them.
Talk about changing the goalposts.
Shouldn’t that read, “and always survives the summer” if this is supposed to be unprecedented?
Oh, the joys of “journalists” using weasel words.
I’m sure Oprah will produce a documentary about this – the msm announced that this is her new passion and focus – producing documentaries. Documentary can now be put on the list of words that no longer mean anything like Nobel Peace Prize….I grieve the loss of words deeply.
Dr. Rotten has done well in what he calls “Grantsmanship“ since earning his
Bachelor’s degree from the Faculty of Physical Education and Recreation Studies, University of Manitoba,
Total Grants Held $17,536,826
http://tinyurl.com/y9prbm3
Something odd here…..
Remember those loons sailing the NWP last summer….who needed an ice-breaker to free them….from think multi-year ice.
The minute they refer to polar bears, you know they are fake scientists.
Sheesh, Oprah. Oprah, take your hundreds of millions and independently try to help some country. But before doing so, you might have to hire some, err, violent people to protect you.
Think of them as cute furry bunnies with SIGs and short-pattern fully automatic weapons.
While the Soviet Union “fell” and there were tanks in the streets Russian subs with the power to wipe out North America were still on patrol.
Let’s see, two meters of ice won’t support a polar bear, but around here, it is common practice to watch your tip ups from your idling 3/4 ton (capacity, not weight, which is much more, for you liberals) pickup on a foot to eighteen inches (that’s less than half a meter for you Canadians)
I wonder if they should send this guy to investigate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x768VAsOQSw&feature=player_embedded#
I need a 4×4 because of all this rotten ice on Calgary’s roads.
The Port of Churchill is still open!, Yes but on the other coast, Sarah can not only see Russia, this year she could walk over for a visit.
There was even a flurry of that rotten ice on the streets of Vancouver yesterday. The palm trees that grow here now because of global warming didn’t like it one bit.
Ummmmmmm….Larry…Churchill is on the west side of Hudson Bay…a few hundred miles from the Atlantic…and they have polar bears!!!
Justthinkin, you do realize that Churchill is on one of Canada’s three coasts, right? Therefore, Alaska would be on another coast. The one that’s iced completely over. So Fred’s correct.
It is gone, but not forgotten
This is the story of ice so rotten
Please feel free to complete lyrics
jt – you might want to rethink that last comment
Hunter at December 12, 2009 4:44 AM
[….The minute they refer to polar bears, you know they are fake scientists.]
And that’s really where it should end….wish it would.
Here in balmy SW Ontario….the wind dropped but the dogs were very careful to limit their exposure….during their morning “patrol” and then promptly took up positions about the stove.
It’s not even Winter yet and the ice is already thin!
Canada. Tri-coastal! There’s a really big lake just outside my window, to the south, as well. And it’s making ice very, very rapidly cause it’s freaking freezing out there. Global warming, my butt. No such luck.
Something I don’t understand. The ice in the satellite photos is new, recovering ice, yet the man in the boat said he expected multi-year ice. How can it be multi-year if we all know it to be new this year?
Shouldn’t we wait to pass judgement until, I dunno, multi-years pass?
It’s 0952 H just east of Dawson Creek and the outside temp is -28 C, soon to drop tonight to -38C and -40C Sunday night. We have 5 guys working outside, working this rig, drilling a gas well.
That’s 12 hours of outside at these temps, so we can supply you with the means to heat your home in Taronna which is what, -2C? I’ll check….just a sec….oops, now -8C. Heh, isn’t technology wonderful? Brought to you via satellite, too!
methinks Alaska has a Arctic coast and a Pacific coast.
been to both.
the USA is tricoastal too, just not contiguous , yet.
ps , If you find the exact point on the SnowDome on the Banff/Jasper border you can pi$$ in all three oceans simultaneously. the triple point of NAmerica , not as often erroneously reported as a spot in Montana. the Gulf of Mexico is not a third ocean.
At the top of the story there is a search bar that says search news. Maybe should change the caption to read search propoganda, or click here for a good laugh
Now I get it, the Norsemen sledded over to Greenland with their cows, sheep, and grain, and they traded actively each summer with their European counterparts via … sled dog. Sheesh, what was I thinking.
If the ice sheet was at a minimum 2 years ago and has been recovering ever since, how can you be “surprised” that there is only 1 year old ice there now? If there wasn’t much ice two years ago, there can’t be much two year old ice now, by definition.
I live on a lake, and I would really like to see a video of that ice floe shattering into little pieces after being struck. If he had only thought to film it…. What a loss to humanity.
When I was a kid in Manitoba , a couple of dozen guys from my hometown,my brother included, worked for the NHB in Churchill for about five months every year.
Churchill was an important employer for a lot of people from small towns on the Prairies. In the late 1960’s the Port was closed and all shipping went through the Lakehead and St.Lawrence Seaway. Many Manitobans I spoke to said it was a political decision, not a practical one.
I’m glad to see the Port’s still open, but has the NHB re-opened the Port facilities and is it once again a thriving community providing lots of good jobs ?
2 degrees Celcius in Copenhagen today, two degrees colder than the expected average temperature in December. Doesn’t seem like much of a hot flash to me – if the greenies want their ice sculptures to melt by the end of the conference, they’re going to have to get one of those windmills connected to some kind of heating system.
dmorris:
18 grain freighters loaded up during the 2009 season. See http://www.portofchurchill.ca/
This is great! The ice is thin, breaking up, soon to be seasonal only – and sea levels STILL aren’t rising! Thanks for the good news, David Barber. And navigation clear across the pole in ships – sounds wonderful, great for the economies of so many countries…
Not sure if this has been covered but Prentice is getting in to spirit of Cop 15:
He hands out hot air awards. Hopefully he’ll give one to David Miller.
http://www.nationalpost.com/related/links/story.html?id=2327471
Multi-year sea ice never reaches 10 meters (30 feet) thick. It reaches a thermodynamic equilibrium at max of 3 meters (9 feet). It will pile up as high as 30 feet or more, along shorelines, but that is different.
Contrary to what the media says, melting is not the only way that the sea ice disappears. Winds, currents, the moon (tides), plus other variables all affect the rate of ice disappearance. The Transpolar Drift Stream, which moves ice from the Siberian coast of Russia across the Arctic basin, exiting into the North Atlantic off the east coast of Greenland and the Beaufort Gyre are wind-driven Arctic ice circulation patterns.
http://nsidc.org/seaice/processes/circulation.html
However, it has happened before;
Arctic Heats Up. Spitsbergen 1919 to 1939.
It should not be impossible, as the present arctic warming since 1980 is not the only one. There was another warming period for the region north of 62o North since 1920 until 1945, for which the high-latitude temperature increase was stronger in the late 1930s early 1940s than in recent decades (Polyakov, 2002). The first Arctic warming started 90 years ago, from about 1920 to 1940. In winter 1918-19 the air temperatures exploded at the remote archipelagos Spitsbergen.
http://eiwnetwork.com/2009/11/12/arctic-heats-up-spitsbergen-1919-to-1939/
What a neat map – try comparing Dec 9, 1994 to Dec 9, 2009.
I just love the photos over there at http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/.
It was even more entertaining when the University came out in defense of Global Warming last year, just before having to admit that the sensors were besot.