“Bomb-sniffing dogs on Vancouver transit worry Muslim leader.”
It’s a wonderful world we live in.
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“I say we train some pigs” – ooh Kate, that’s perfect, lol! Brilliant, actually!
Notice the cowardly chicken$hit CBC closed the story to commenting. I can’t imagine the comments would have been all that sympathetic.
Perhaps Muslims could stop smelling like bombs?
Ok I am driving to the BC HRC right now no need to send the RCMP…
Dogs are much dirtier than bomb residue.
This story is closed to comments…. I wonder why that is?
Yeah when in Rome…..
The french use pigs to find truffles…so in a left-handed way (politically correct then) there is a precedent of tradition…..
Or have the dogs wear pork-chops around their necks.
Obviously goats are out of the question.
Ha!
Simple solution: all Muslims so offended should just stay off the transit system and use taxis instead.
Problem solved! And the local taxi industry gets a boost!
Always glad to help.
(Maybe Muslim taxi-drivers could offer some sort of special VANOC rate to their co-religionists?)
Notice how quick they are to explain that the dogs won’t be able to detect narcotics. Only in Vancouver would that be a touchy subject: the taxpayer-funded users probably outnumber the police.
Years ago, Frank Zappa suggested “aerosol pork grenades” as a guaranteed method to stop armed conflict in the Middle East… I say, let’s give it a test run here in Canada at some of the anti-Israel gatherings.
What about seeing-eye dogs on public transit? Does the Muslim community object? And what about the average everyday person with their pet? Are they to be denied the right to use public transit?
“Notice how quick they are to explain that the dogs won’t be able to detect narcotics. Only in Vancouver would that be a touchy subject: the taxpayer-funded users probably outnumber the police.”
Actually, the police are probably just being pragmatic; if the dogs were dual-trained to go for narcotics as well, the transit system would grind to a halt…
JJM,
You do not have to be a dog to detect the smell of narcotics on people riding the Skytrain.
I would be worried about the health of the dog sniffing all the people.
“And what about the average everyday person with their pet? Are they to be denied the right to use public transit?”
Of course, silly! Average everyday persons are of no account whatsoever.
In other words: shut up and pay your taxes!
If they hate dogs so much why is Iraq so full of em? They’re everywhere.
Besides, why is this even a story?
Aren’t the dogs working for the pigs? (Not funny, I know)
Yeah, well, Muslims on any Transit worry me.
“Besides, why is this even a story?”
Bingo!
JJM, I think the idea is that if a dog indicates “trouble aboard” an individual, the police don’t want to be throwing said trouble maker to the ground and tasering the crap out of him looking for drugs, when what the dog was trying to say is that the trouble maker has a kilo of C4 stuck up his ass.
Pigs have quite a good sense of smell… I imagine the objections would be fierce.
Thanks to the CBC for limiting our obvious objections, clearly we can’t be trusted to keep our tone nuanced.
“JJM, I think the idea is that if a dog indicates ‘trouble aboard’ an individual, the police don’t want to be throwing said trouble maker to the ground and tasering the crap out of him looking for drugs, when what the dog was trying to say is that the trouble maker has a kilo of C4 stuck up his ass.”
Well exactly. Whence my comment about police pragmatism.
I notice he mentioned that they pray 5 times a day. Why is it they NEVER EVER mention that the 10 times a day (pre & post for each prayer) that is in between the prayers they are the lying cheating and blowing up -est people on the face of the earth.
Bomb-sniffing: Alternative career choices for soon-to-be-out-of-work scientist thermomongers?
If they are that scared of dogs, maybe they should think about moving back to the middle east.
Bad comment The Spoonman. This is not the place to talk about sexual preferences.
Muslims are just gonna have to give up some of there very, very weird religous hang-ups if they want to function normally in secular western democracy or move back from whence they came.
In my childhood I would have said “tough titty”.
But let’s look at this:
They don’t like women (not really)
and they don’t like dogs.
Will someone explain to me why they’re in this country?
Maybe Immigration could add one more question to the list.
Yeah, well, of course bomb-sniffing dogs on Vancouver transit worry a Muslim leader: He knows that at some point there are likely to be Muslims with bombs on public transport and, natch, he’d rather there not be dogs on board to catch them out.
As for me and my house, I’m relieved to know there are bomb-sniffing dogs on public transit in a Canadian city. Maybe we could get some here in Toronto.
I’m getting to the point where a Muslim leader’s being worried or offended about anything just makes me smile.
That,gellen,is THE question.Can we force them to go live with all the lefturds that want them here?
Let us see now,
Why would it be that of the entire world, the citizens of Vancouver have decided that to have a dog sniff around the public transportation is going to have some effect on something?
There are some possibilities that come to mind.
One of them is not safety, for unless you have a dog per train and a dog per bus, you are not preventing the imaginary terrorists or rather human caused disasters or some such.
So it must be that there is a need for useless jobs in Vancouver area, this is likely the main reason.
Another reason must be that the citizens of Vancouver have this nagging feeling that they don’t pay enough taxes. This may be true due to the fact that the local and provincial governments have no money of their own, they of course must suck it out of the Vancouver plebeians and the plebeians are not happy with paying less, they obviously prefer to pay much more.
It is also true that the said governments (the plebeians think that it is not them) owe a whole lot of big monies to the bad big banks.
Now since the plebeians and their rulers have this warm feeling for spending money they don’t have, maybe they should hire as many dogs as there are public transportation vehicles.
Think of the job creation, the trainers, the handlers, the “care givers”, the kennels, this could positively lead to full employment in Vancouver. Nobody without a job. Could be unionized. Could go on strike, first thing just to get the feel of it.
Where the money would come from? You ask. What money.
The real problem they have with this is that dogs are great judges of character.
Police dogs that are trained specifically, are trained for either drugs or bombs, not both.
Drug dogs are trained to wag their tails and act excited. Bomb dogs are trained to run fast & far.
That goes with the T shirt that EOD techs wear.
“I am a bomb disposal expert, If you see me running follow me as fast as you can.”
Cool – by having 4 dogs I can rest assured that I am in a Muslim free zone. I can also guarantee that 3 of the 4 would jump up and lick them. Hoorah for dog germs!
Could I be hauled away for that comment?
regarding muzzies and unclean dogs, true story:
I’m out with my dear Choochette, a beautiful hound-shepherd mix and what ho, mr muzzie, mrs muzzie and all the little muzzies. so I look at them with a “dogs unclean eh? watch this” and plant a big wet one right on her snout.
re muzzie cabbies and ANY dogs I EVER own, when I call a cab I ALWAYS specify ‘don’t send a muslim driver’. if they want to pick and choose who rides in their car, I’m gonna pick and choose whose car I ride in regardless if the dog is with me or not.
and too goddamm bad if they take offense at being sniffed out. THEY are the ones toting the bombs.
Illiquid assets says-“Perhaps Muslims could stop smelling like bombs?” Too funny,and too pratical.
“But the big winner is the rabbi, a recent arrival from Brooklyn who is working hard (against tough odds) to bring his Lubavitch movement to Montana. He has been scouring the state for anyone who can speak Hebrew, and is elated to have found a German shepherd he can talk to.” http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/05/us/05religion.html
🙂
This comes down to whether the state has to accomodate every extreme quirk of every religon, especially in terms of security.
There is a difference between tolerance and exception. \if dogs are the best tool and if their task requires them to get close then so be it….if that means that person “a” has to change or wash again then fine. There are so many things on the unclean list of devout muslims that them being in any public place puts them at risk….its their list and their choice to follow whatever rituals they follow.
Sure the police should talk with them,agree to nothing and proceed. I doubt the dogs touch anyone, unless they smell explosive residue.
This comes down to whether the state has to accomodate every extreme quirk of every religon, especially in terms of security.
There is a difference between tolerance and exception. \if dogs are the best tool and if their task requires them to get close then so be it….if that means that person “a” has to change or wash again then fine. There are so many things on the unclean list of devout muslims that them being in any public place puts them at risk….its their list and their choice to follow whatever rituals they follow.
Sure the police should talk with them,agree to nothing and proceed. I doubt the dogs touch anyone, unless they smell explosive residue.
This so simple.
If Shawket Hassan, the vice-president of the B.C. Muslim Association is nervous about bomb sniffing dogs on our transit= do not travel on our transit.
So simple *sigh*
“Some devout Muslims consider dogs to be unclean animals and try to avoid any contact with them.”
Hey ,the dogs aren’t too crazy about it either.
Horny Toad
has there ever been a group of people that are so offended by every trivial thing yet have havent the slightest clue when they offend everyone else ie beheading ,stoning , general taxi hygiene
“JJM, I think the idea is that if a dog indicates “trouble aboard” an individual, the police don’t want to be throwing said trouble maker to the ground and tasering the crap out of him”
Why not, aren’t they looking for any excuse at all to taser someone?
Horny Toad
Interesting undercurrents. Street dogs in sub-tropical and tropical regions are little more than a feces consuming skin bag home for various parasites. The roundworm is a common lodger and the eggs from them on the bottom of sandals are one of the reasons for “no shoes in the mosque”, also the washing of feet, because if there are parasite eggs on the prayer rug and you rub your forehead on them the first result is unpleasant, unsightly, and as time passes, possibly very unhealthy.
Some sources also suggest that the semi-stray neighbourhood dog packs tolerated in the mid-east to this day as “stranger approaching” alarms were particularly loud anytime Mohammed showed up and he never forgave their assessment of him as an intruder up to no good.
The profession of taxi driver is ideal for a devout muslim because he can manage his prayer breaks himself during his shifts. Refusing to transport dogs, alcohol, etc is just a way to show his peers what a tower of strength they have in their midst.
Interesting point about that other feces consumer, the domestic pig. Unlike the dog, the stricture against Porky is said to be narrower, in that one may not consume same. That would seem to allow one to be a mover in the raising, slaughtering, and selling of same to infidels, but perhaps being overly engaged with pigs and infidels would not be very circumspect as time passed.
Kate and her Shaggy Dog stories…
I am a “hobby farmer” also known as a farmer that has both people trying to make ends meet while hanging on. We raise wieners and would never risk our bacon on a truffle hunt in Vancouver but our German Shepherd “Tracker” has no bias ,deer,wolves,bombs,drugs,or fools he will eagerly find,drop and hold.Is there an Olympic medal for that?
ET asks: “Does the Muslim community object?”
Does the Pope s**t in the woods?
“This is a step we would support, but … we would like to be informed,” he said.
This is the soft show jihad that seeks simple accommodation for 7th Century cultural practices that have no place in a modern society.
Of course the whole dog program is another taxpayer funded fake job scheme. It will go through money like these dogs on bowl of Alpo. and guess what we get when the Alpo is gone?
Typo Correction: This is the soft shoe jihad that seeks simple accommodation for 7th Century cultural practices that have no place in a modern society.
Well, I like dogs.
I blame Gordon Campbell, VANOC, Transit,etc.for this travesty on multiculturalism!
If we had known about this situation a few years back, we could have started work on a new Skytrain and bus system especially for Muslims,complete with specially trained bomb-sniffer camels.
On behalf of all British Columbians, I apologize to fundamentalist Muslims.
“I say we train some pigs” – ooh Kate, that’s perfect, lol! Brilliant, actually!
Notice the cowardly chicken$hit CBC closed the story to commenting. I can’t imagine the comments would have been all that sympathetic.
Perhaps Muslims could stop smelling like bombs?
Ok I am driving to the BC HRC right now no need to send the RCMP…
Dogs are much dirtier than bomb residue.
This story is closed to comments…. I wonder why that is?
Yeah when in Rome…..
The french use pigs to find truffles…so in a left-handed way (politically correct then) there is a precedent of tradition…..
Or have the dogs wear pork-chops around their necks.
Obviously goats are out of the question.
Ha!
Simple solution: all Muslims so offended should just stay off the transit system and use taxis instead.
Problem solved! And the local taxi industry gets a boost!
Always glad to help.
(Maybe Muslim taxi-drivers could offer some sort of special VANOC rate to their co-religionists?)
Notice how quick they are to explain that the dogs won’t be able to detect narcotics. Only in Vancouver would that be a touchy subject: the taxpayer-funded users probably outnumber the police.
Years ago, Frank Zappa suggested “aerosol pork grenades” as a guaranteed method to stop armed conflict in the Middle East… I say, let’s give it a test run here in Canada at some of the anti-Israel gatherings.
What about seeing-eye dogs on public transit? Does the Muslim community object? And what about the average everyday person with their pet? Are they to be denied the right to use public transit?
“Notice how quick they are to explain that the dogs won’t be able to detect narcotics. Only in Vancouver would that be a touchy subject: the taxpayer-funded users probably outnumber the police.”
Actually, the police are probably just being pragmatic; if the dogs were dual-trained to go for narcotics as well, the transit system would grind to a halt…
JJM,
You do not have to be a dog to detect the smell of narcotics on people riding the Skytrain.
I would be worried about the health of the dog sniffing all the people.
“And what about the average everyday person with their pet? Are they to be denied the right to use public transit?”
Of course, silly! Average everyday persons are of no account whatsoever.
In other words: shut up and pay your taxes!
If they hate dogs so much why is Iraq so full of em? They’re everywhere.
Besides, why is this even a story?
Aren’t the dogs working for the pigs? (Not funny, I know)
Yeah, well, Muslims on any Transit worry me.
“Besides, why is this even a story?”
Bingo!
JJM, I think the idea is that if a dog indicates “trouble aboard” an individual, the police don’t want to be throwing said trouble maker to the ground and tasering the crap out of him looking for drugs, when what the dog was trying to say is that the trouble maker has a kilo of C4 stuck up his ass.
Pigs have quite a good sense of smell… I imagine the objections would be fierce.
Thanks to the CBC for limiting our obvious objections, clearly we can’t be trusted to keep our tone nuanced.
“JJM, I think the idea is that if a dog indicates ‘trouble aboard’ an individual, the police don’t want to be throwing said trouble maker to the ground and tasering the crap out of him looking for drugs, when what the dog was trying to say is that the trouble maker has a kilo of C4 stuck up his ass.”
Well exactly. Whence my comment about police pragmatism.
I notice he mentioned that they pray 5 times a day. Why is it they NEVER EVER mention that the 10 times a day (pre & post for each prayer) that is in between the prayers they are the lying cheating and blowing up -est people on the face of the earth.
Bomb-sniffing: Alternative career choices for soon-to-be-out-of-work scientist thermomongers?
If they are that scared of dogs, maybe they should think about moving back to the middle east.
Bad comment The Spoonman. This is not the place to talk about sexual preferences.
Muslims are just gonna have to give up some of there very, very weird religous hang-ups if they want to function normally in secular western democracy or move back from whence they came.
In my childhood I would have said “tough titty”.
But let’s look at this:
They don’t like women (not really)
and they don’t like dogs.
Will someone explain to me why they’re in this country?
Maybe Immigration could add one more question to the list.
Yeah, well, of course bomb-sniffing dogs on Vancouver transit worry a Muslim leader: He knows that at some point there are likely to be Muslims with bombs on public transport and, natch, he’d rather there not be dogs on board to catch them out.
As for me and my house, I’m relieved to know there are bomb-sniffing dogs on public transit in a Canadian city. Maybe we could get some here in Toronto.
I’m getting to the point where a Muslim leader’s being worried or offended about anything just makes me smile.
That,gellen,is THE question.Can we force them to go live with all the lefturds that want them here?
Let us see now,
Why would it be that of the entire world, the citizens of Vancouver have decided that to have a dog sniff around the public transportation is going to have some effect on something?
There are some possibilities that come to mind.
One of them is not safety, for unless you have a dog per train and a dog per bus, you are not preventing the imaginary terrorists or rather human caused disasters or some such.
So it must be that there is a need for useless jobs in Vancouver area, this is likely the main reason.
Another reason must be that the citizens of Vancouver have this nagging feeling that they don’t pay enough taxes. This may be true due to the fact that the local and provincial governments have no money of their own, they of course must suck it out of the Vancouver plebeians and the plebeians are not happy with paying less, they obviously prefer to pay much more.
It is also true that the said governments (the plebeians think that it is not them) owe a whole lot of big monies to the bad big banks.
Now since the plebeians and their rulers have this warm feeling for spending money they don’t have, maybe they should hire as many dogs as there are public transportation vehicles.
Think of the job creation, the trainers, the handlers, the “care givers”, the kennels, this could positively lead to full employment in Vancouver. Nobody without a job. Could be unionized. Could go on strike, first thing just to get the feel of it.
Where the money would come from? You ask. What money.
The real problem they have with this is that dogs are great judges of character.
Police dogs that are trained specifically, are trained for either drugs or bombs, not both.
Drug dogs are trained to wag their tails and act excited. Bomb dogs are trained to run fast & far.
That goes with the T shirt that EOD techs wear.
“I am a bomb disposal expert, If you see me running follow me as fast as you can.”
Cool – by having 4 dogs I can rest assured that I am in a Muslim free zone. I can also guarantee that 3 of the 4 would jump up and lick them. Hoorah for dog germs!
Could I be hauled away for that comment?
regarding muzzies and unclean dogs, true story:
I’m out with my dear Choochette, a beautiful hound-shepherd mix and what ho, mr muzzie, mrs muzzie and all the little muzzies. so I look at them with a “dogs unclean eh? watch this” and plant a big wet one right on her snout.
re muzzie cabbies and ANY dogs I EVER own, when I call a cab I ALWAYS specify ‘don’t send a muslim driver’. if they want to pick and choose who rides in their car, I’m gonna pick and choose whose car I ride in regardless if the dog is with me or not.
and too goddamm bad if they take offense at being sniffed out. THEY are the ones toting the bombs.
Illiquid assets says-“Perhaps Muslims could stop smelling like bombs?” Too funny,and too pratical.
“But the big winner is the rabbi, a recent arrival from Brooklyn who is working hard (against tough odds) to bring his Lubavitch movement to Montana. He has been scouring the state for anyone who can speak Hebrew, and is elated to have found a German shepherd he can talk to.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/05/us/05religion.html
🙂
This comes down to whether the state has to accomodate every extreme quirk of every religon, especially in terms of security.
There is a difference between tolerance and exception. \if dogs are the best tool and if their task requires them to get close then so be it….if that means that person “a” has to change or wash again then fine. There are so many things on the unclean list of devout muslims that them being in any public place puts them at risk….its their list and their choice to follow whatever rituals they follow.
Sure the police should talk with them,agree to nothing and proceed. I doubt the dogs touch anyone, unless they smell explosive residue.
This comes down to whether the state has to accomodate every extreme quirk of every religon, especially in terms of security.
There is a difference between tolerance and exception. \if dogs are the best tool and if their task requires them to get close then so be it….if that means that person “a” has to change or wash again then fine. There are so many things on the unclean list of devout muslims that them being in any public place puts them at risk….its their list and their choice to follow whatever rituals they follow.
Sure the police should talk with them,agree to nothing and proceed. I doubt the dogs touch anyone, unless they smell explosive residue.
This so simple.
If Shawket Hassan, the vice-president of the B.C. Muslim Association is nervous about bomb sniffing dogs on our transit= do not travel on our transit.
So simple *sigh*
“Some devout Muslims consider dogs to be unclean animals and try to avoid any contact with them.”
Hey ,the dogs aren’t too crazy about it either.
Horny Toad
has there ever been a group of people that are so offended by every trivial thing yet have havent the slightest clue when they offend everyone else ie beheading ,stoning , general taxi hygiene
“JJM, I think the idea is that if a dog indicates “trouble aboard” an individual, the police don’t want to be throwing said trouble maker to the ground and tasering the crap out of him”
Why not, aren’t they looking for any excuse at all to taser someone?
Horny Toad
Interesting undercurrents. Street dogs in sub-tropical and tropical regions are little more than a feces consuming skin bag home for various parasites. The roundworm is a common lodger and the eggs from them on the bottom of sandals are one of the reasons for “no shoes in the mosque”, also the washing of feet, because if there are parasite eggs on the prayer rug and you rub your forehead on them the first result is unpleasant, unsightly, and as time passes, possibly very unhealthy.
Some sources also suggest that the semi-stray neighbourhood dog packs tolerated in the mid-east to this day as “stranger approaching” alarms were particularly loud anytime Mohammed showed up and he never forgave their assessment of him as an intruder up to no good.
The profession of taxi driver is ideal for a devout muslim because he can manage his prayer breaks himself during his shifts. Refusing to transport dogs, alcohol, etc is just a way to show his peers what a tower of strength they have in their midst.
Interesting point about that other feces consumer, the domestic pig. Unlike the dog, the stricture against Porky is said to be narrower, in that one may not consume same. That would seem to allow one to be a mover in the raising, slaughtering, and selling of same to infidels, but perhaps being overly engaged with pigs and infidels would not be very circumspect as time passed.
Kate and her Shaggy Dog stories…
I am a “hobby farmer” also known as a farmer that has both people trying to make ends meet while hanging on. We raise wieners and would never risk our bacon on a truffle hunt in Vancouver but our German Shepherd “Tracker” has no bias ,deer,wolves,bombs,drugs,or fools he will eagerly find,drop and hold.Is there an Olympic medal for that?
ET asks: “Does the Muslim community object?”
Does the Pope s**t in the woods?
“This is a step we would support, but … we would like to be informed,” he said.
This is the soft show jihad that seeks simple accommodation for 7th Century cultural practices that have no place in a modern society.
Of course the whole dog program is another taxpayer funded fake job scheme. It will go through money like these dogs on bowl of Alpo. and guess what we get when the Alpo is gone?
Typo Correction: This is the soft shoe jihad that seeks simple accommodation for 7th Century cultural practices that have no place in a modern society.
Well, I like dogs.
I blame Gordon Campbell, VANOC, Transit,etc.for this travesty on multiculturalism!
If we had known about this situation a few years back, we could have started work on a new Skytrain and bus system especially for Muslims,complete with specially trained bomb-sniffer camels.
On behalf of all British Columbians, I apologize to fundamentalist Muslims.