“People over 80 are multiplying faster than any other age group…”
h/t Cal2 and Dutch Canuck, who notes – “Only in a tossed-off aside at the bottom of paragraph 5 do they mention dropping birthrates. Talk about burying the lede!”
“People over 80 are multiplying faster than any other age group…”
h/t Cal2 and Dutch Canuck, who notes – “Only in a tossed-off aside at the bottom of paragraph 5 do they mention dropping birthrates. Talk about burying the lede!”
People over 80 are multiplying faster than any other age group
This sentence is so confusing. Does it mean that people over 80 are having more children than any other age group? Have they had calculators cyber-implanted? Is this some coded reference to adult diapers? Does it mean the copy editors no longer have any understanding of English grammar?
Could someone please explain?
“People over 80 are multiplying faster than any other age group
This sentence is so confusing. Does it mean that people over 80 are having more children than any other age group? Have they had calculators cyber-implanted? Is this some coded reference to adult diapers? Does it mean the copy editors no longer have any understanding of English grammar?
Could someone please explain?
Posted by: KevinB at July 21, 2009 11:51 AM ”
Ahhhhhh. Thanks KevinB. An easy question! When in doubt (and no doubt here), pick C. There must be hundreds of English teachers/profs reaching for ropes.
‘Naturally stupid’ cannot explain all of it. They must be working on it.
Intentional dumbing-down and slide over to the Tabloid market share as the quality audience has been lost to the Internet and Blogs.
This imparts a new meaning to the term ” old f&*^ers”
The demographic trend to older, retired seniors presents the perfect opportunity for government encouraged euthansia or moral pressure applied to the elderly to commit suicide. Watch for more stories moaning about the unproductive eldery, who drain the medical system – the perfect segue to state sanctioned death. We’ll be so indoctrinated that it will appear to be the only option available.
soylent green.
start with the green party.
This isn’t a bad thing… in a world over taxed with polution and increasing demand on limited resources having the larger population in the upper end of life means that there will be more to divid between fewer once they shuffle off this mortal coil…
of course it still sucks to be mortal but than who wants to live too much past 80-100 anyways… it’s not like you’re doing much more than remembering the good old days if you still have all your marbles…
Although my father-In-Law in his early 70’s is in better shape today than at 50 and loves spending time with his grand kids…
fern:
On another blog, someone (decrying Bambam’s proposed health care plan) wrote that in Holland, the government has a cost-benefit ratio such that if you need dialysis starting at age 50, you will get it, but if you need it at 70, you won’t. I have no idea if that’s true or not (and I suspect it isn’t), but certainly the idea gets floated around.
On the other hand, on The Daily Show last night, Stewart showed a clip of some Texan congressman who said “1 out of 5 Canadians die because of their health care system”. Wonder where he (Gohmert, I think) got that statistic?
Given the fact they have found high concentrations of anti-androgens in UK water supply, it’s not surprising the birth rates are affected by the sterilizing properties of their drinking water.
Why no mention of failing fertility rate?
Like, birth control hormones and other drugs flushed into waterways with urine…
No one wants to hear about MSG and fluoridation, let’s skip that.
“Why no mention of failing fertility rate?”
Posted by: Aaron at July 21, 2009 1:55 PM
Or ‘DOCTOR’ Henry Morgethaler, eh?
I blame Viagra.
I wonder if future generations will look at these worrisome numbers the same way that we now look at the prediction that the streets of New York city would be 5 feet deep in horse manure by the 1930’s if the number of horse drawn carriages continued to increase at the rate it was in the 1890’s when this prediction was made.
Assuming there’s still some money left over for scientific research, instead of it all going to build windmills and solar powered cow fart collectors, there will be some major breakthroughs in medical research that will result in cures for many of the degenerative diseases associated with aging. Also advances in robotics will mean that the demented elderly will be cared for in almost totally automated facilities requiring a tiny fraction of the predicted number of care aids. Those of us who plan on living a few hundred years (like myself as there’s just not enough time to do what I want) will hopefully be healthier in our 80’s than we were in our 50’s. Scientific discoveries, or even technologic advances, are unpredicable and the article is a classic example of the dangers of linear extrapolation.
Kevin That would not be much of a stretch. You may not get an artificial hip because you are young enough they will have to replace it before you die and you may be too old for surgery or a transplant. An acquintance of mine was discouraged from prostate cancar treatment by a specialist because he was ‘going to die soon anyway.’ He is 76, had a good life and is better shape than me.
KevinB
horror stories emanate out of Holland regarding old and not-so-old timers allowed to expire. some of the horror stories tell of how they were helped along:
http://www.lifecanada.org/html/science/euthanasia/MercyKillingintheNetherlandsEuthanasiaoreugenics.htm
the idea was sold with all manner of safeguards, nottheleast it had to be prior requested and agreed to by the individual.
then it went on to many incidents where the conditions were glossed over. now they’re after the kids who cannot give consent.
BIG difference in my book between letting a person die whilt pain relief is administed and administering so much of the pain relief that the ‘relief’ obtained is thru death.
ALSO a big difference between explicite consent, and the lack of refusal of consent. I guess the brains of Dutch people work differently.
People are living too long, we can’t afford that. Now I know why Obama is in such a rush to have the government run Health Care instead of private enterprise. He wants Democrats to die for their country.
It’s almost a perfect storm. You have the baby boomers getting older, they’re a very large demographic. The latest generation that has entered adulthood(that I’m a part of) is putting of parenthood much more then ever before. “Planned parenting” has worked.
Its not about being selfish, I just feel a child should be born into a stable household, both emotionally and financially. Most 20-25 year olds I know of are not stable in either.
But that’s just me. I may be wrong. I know of many good parents in their early 20’s. The earlier parents have a child, the more likely it will be a single parent household, born into poverty, abuse etc..
“who wants to live too much past 80-100 anyways… it’s not like you’re doing much more than remembering the good old days if you still have all your marbles…”
Hey look! Obama is posting on SDA!
KevinB is right, as always. Daily finds one nutter, whom nobody has ever heard of, and stands that person up as the face of criticism of Obamacare. Because he is right. If that person is wrong, then *all* critics of Obamacare must be wrong. One wonders though, if the congressman’s stats came from somebody who used the Lancet’s statistical methods.
KevinB said ” Texan congressman who said “1 out of 5 Canadians die because of their health care system”.
if he meant that 1 out 5 that need health care, I could believe that, as I know several ( in my extended family) who died because they were not given proper diagnosis ( did not give MRI’s when they should have) and one that was told not to worry about his leukemia, as he would die of natural causes before the leukemia became a problem, 18 months later the leukemia killed him
and
as far as non productive seniors becoming a burden to society, this can be offset by firing 2 of every 3 gov’ment employees and forcing them to actually work. There would not be a noticeable reduction in gov’ment services, as that is almost impossible!!
Time will take care of the Boomers.
See http://www.boomerdeathcounter.com
If Obamamaniacs run the “people’s health care” the same way the government now runs Veteran’s Affairs medical system then the US is doomed to a case of dysfunctional Canadian care but to a greater magnitude. But then where would Canadian high risk deliveries be air lifted to, Mexico?
As a productive (but not reproductive) 80 yr old (81 if I live one more month & four days), I enjoy reading these comments.
Couldn’t agree more with GYM’s:
“this can be offset by firing 2 of every 3 gov’ment employees and forcing them to actually work. There would not be a noticeable reduction in gov’ment services.”
Too true, too true.
I used to take these horror stories about Canadian Medicare with a big grain of salt….
Then I broke a rib about a month back…..finally after diagnosis of “muscle spasm”, muscle tear….I (me) had to declare and demonstrate it was a busted rib ( not cracked—busted)…..(chest X-rays do not scan the entire rib cage)…..5 different doctors….
Then they advise that fractures usually take 6-8 weeks—–they were than offended when I pronounced this would take much longer—-They asked me where I went to med school—-they got a bit humbled when I pointed out that it had been bumping about for a month…..not a day or so…
Oh well, they have prescibed some potent pain relief…..
NO RESPECT—-
Obama care has nothing to do with health care & all to do with control of individuals. With a Bureaucracy that reflects this control.
You though your body was your own? The bigger fool you if this passes! Canadians know from our own system we are just meat to our Government who never dawn the doors of a real Hospital. They have their own don’t you know. Just like the American government will.
Only now medical advances will be few & far between as Dr’s become government employee’s . Than comes the rationing based on race, gender with age being a marker for triage of care. Of course the line ups with up to 2 year waits just to see specialists not to mention surgery.
Of course as well all the usual theft of our medical records regularly.
Enjoy America!! You will all be covered even if a lot of you have to die or be picked to die.
That’s how you save money. You let the old die. Abort the young. Deny others for social fads.
This is your Obama health future.
He cares for power, not you.
JMO
“People are living too long, we can’t afford that. Now I know why Obama is in such a rush to have the government run Health Care instead of private enterprise. He wants Democrats to die for their country.”
Public health care IS one gigantic eugenics program focused at depopulation targets.
It’s done by rationing treatment, injecting poisons into babies and children, hooking teens on psychotropic drugs, approving carcinogenic foods, offering little but palliative care to seniors and lowering medical practitioner skills/quality to that of a coroner. Lastly you outlaw any homeopathic treatments which have proven effective.
Revnant Dream,
There is now a commercial airing on American channels showing a disgruntled Canadian who had brain cancer and was told she could not be scheduled for an MRI for 6 months.
Normally, I would not have believed this, but I hapened to be in the emergency waiting room a few years back. I had literally carried my daughter in as her pain was so bad and she is about the most undramatic analytical person you could meet, so I knew right away there was definately a problem. Anyway, I was chatting with a female I guessed to be between 25 and 30 in the waiting room. Turns out this poor soul was recently diagnosed with brain cancer. I had offered her my coat to lay her head on seeing that she was in serious pain – being a migraine sufferer myself I can spot one in an instant.
She was not all that talkative, but did state she had been diagnosed with brain cancer and that she did not know if it was operable or not because she had to wait six months for an MRI and she had 2 months left to go b4 her appointment – at that time there was only one MRI machine for 15 communities which had a total population of close to a million and a half. I was astounded. Believe it or not, my daughter was admitted b4 she was, and recived an emergency ultrasound which detected a grapefruit sized benign cyst on her ovary. I felt bad. Here is a young girl who is dying and my daughters condition took precendence over hers. I seriously love my daughter, don’t get me wrong. But something was not right with this pictur. Once they had my daughter on a moriphine drip she seemed fine. Moriphine would not take this young girls pain away for long. I have often thouth about her and wondered what happened to her.
Abortion has caused serious social issues which are virtually never mentioned. I am thankful that today’s youth see the repercussions of abortion and are choosing the path of life.