Another Imagine Generation sighting…
School district Supt. Zoe Watson said the decision was made by principal Erik Millett after two parents complained about their children having to sing the anthem.
“Sometimes we have students whose parents, because of their beliefs, don’t want their children to participate,” Watson told CTV Atlantic.
But some in the community said that the decision may have been made because of Millett’s personal beliefs. Millett ran for the Green Party in the last federal election and his website describes him as “actively involved in the peace movement.”
Update… just part of a natural progession!

you music fascists leave john lennon alone!
one can be a far right conservative and still enjoy a variety of music….as I do.
would you scorn Wagner and Byron because of their amorality……dissociate yourselves from the one true Church of Rome because of a few immoral Popes ?
learn to separate the artist from his art dagnabbit…
ite missa est.
the beatles blow. As did lennon.
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“So Dawg, your big theory about the Jehovah’s Witnesses
putting the kibosh on the national anthem… it kinda skips
over that whole Green Party thing.”
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No offence , music transends all ,.. ah skip it.
Lennon ‘s music sucked and still sucks.
Shaved Fish was brutal.
The Beatles were the most over rated band EVER!
Wagner ROCKS!
Hitler sucks too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHjWDCX1Bdw&feature=related
John says “I wouldn’t want to have to listen to it every day let alone be forced to lip-syncing it along with the group.”
Nobody is forcing anyone to sign or “lip-sync” the anthem. That is simply nonsense. The only force that is being applied by anyone is by the crackpot principal of the school who is forcing those who DO want to sign it to stop.
The unfortunate thing is that this is just the tip of the iceberg. The public school system is full of idealogical dolts like this clown and their prime function is to push their idealogy onto the young minds of the students. It is despicable and if any good can come out of this, it will be the uncovering of other idealogical plants that can be uprooted and turfed out of the system.
RE : Posted by: Brent Weston at January 30, 2009 12:49 PM
Good one Brent, better that the original, that’s for sure.
Like the song say’s “it’s easy if you try”.
The guy has an underperforming school, that appears to be trending down and he is worried about issues like this……d’oh
sing the damn thing every day and anyone who thinks they should be exempt can leave the country. i will help remove them.
I love it!!! The troll who wrote “F**k the Jews” in his childish bog tries to stir the pot here with one of his foul lies and no one pays the slightest bit of attention. Well done!!!
CTV poll, Jan 30 209,
Should schools be able to decide whether they will play the national anthem?
Yes
1750 votes (19 %)
No
7452 votes (81 %)
Total Votes: 9202
‘John’ @ 11:13 expressed what most of us probably really feel. ‘O Canada’ is a truly uninspired national Anthem that’s been tinkered to death. It’s pathetic to be in an audience required to sing it; especially a Capella! Breaks my heart.
This http://www.craigmarlatt.com/canada/symbols_facts&lists/anthems.html#mapleleaf USED to be the unofficial anthem, and the newer version will have you humming in the shower.
With the way things are going in G.B. I don’t have any problem with loosening the apron strings.
Sorry, here’s the link;
http://www.craigmarlatt.com/canada/symbols_facts&lists/anthems.html#mapleleaf
And here’s a band rendition that’ll give you a woody…
http://www.piddingworth.com/maple_leaf_forever_new.html
atlanticjim
remember I are one of you. I might have even been edjumacated in one of your east coast schools
I could go by atlanticcal2 ( by my birth cert.)
the left coast is bc , the duffsitters east of the ottawa valley.
Posted by: Blame Crash at January 30, 2009 2:00 PM
Thanks 🙂
richfisher- I totally agree!
Here’s the solution. Ban O Canada and replace it with God Save The Queen!!
You get to piss off both the Commies and the Frogs at the same time.
Or, even better, The Maple Leaf Forever.
(and yes, I can still recite the lyrics).
I remember the grade 7 version best.
in days of yore from Britains shore ,
Wolfe the donk less hero came.
CTV poll, Jan 30 209,
Should schools be able to decide whether they will play the national anthem?
Once again a poll with an ambiguous answer. Does saying “NO” mean you don’t want the national anthem played or you don’t want them to be able to opt out?
The better question is: “Should the national anthem be played in all Canadian schools? Yes or No?
I received this from the Hon. Kelly Limrock, Minister of Education, a few minutes ago:
“Thanks for sharing your views with me.
As you may have heard on the news, I have clearly let schools know that I want, and expect, the anthem to be played in our schools. While we are a nation that values diversity of religious views, political views, and cultural ideals, those freedoms cannot be separated from respect for the nation and symbols that safeguard those freedoms.
I have let our educators know of my desire to see children have the opportunity to know and share in the national anthem, and of my willingness to make necessary changes in policy to ensure this happens.”
“Should schools be able to decide whether they will play the national anthem?”
Well, of course they should, our republic was founded on grass root concepts such as weak federal & strong state government. In a democratic country the people of a certain area decide for themselves what kind of psyop they wish to tolerate. Personally I would rather sing, about sweet land of liberty, and forget about all of the shooting and dieing routine. I decided that over 40 years ago, along with the pledge of allegiance crap. Who, in their right mind would pledge their allegiance to a symbol rather than a virtuous agenda for maintaining peace. If our flag contained a peace symbol I still wouldn’t pledge allegiance to it, because it is what is in your heart that counts.
From what I see here, there are a lot of sheep present who aren’t really interested in what is really happening on the planet. When the North American Union becomes a reality, I imagine that the whole bunch of you, bleating in one voice, will be pledging allegiance to the flag of the NAU…G:
I have been reading & contributing to the comments on the G&M & CBC. The comments of Stand up for our anthem are outweighing the usual sociallistic crap that is on the cbc & G&M, & they are getting alot of Hits at the G&M i thought that the amount the other day on Jack layton were fast and furious(over 900)this topic is gainging traction
Canadians are speaking out as to their disgust of the Principles decision & Congrats to The Mother & daughters that have brought this forward.
I have a question though & can’t find an answer.
Since this guy ran for the Green Party & since they Whined so much to take part in a Democratic Election Debate is Banning O’Canada Also the policy of the Green Party?
can anyone answer my question, Kate, ET, Kingston, Warwick, cal2, soccermom, Hans, Maryt, lorraine you guys are more up on some of the policies of the fringe do you know?
thanks
“tries to stir the pot here with one of his foul lies”
There really is a group of people who loathe O Canada just as they loathe every other bit of liberal/Trudeaupian rebranding and it’s not the left.
For a little of the history of the JW’s and compulsory anthems and pledges here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance
I guess we’ll never know who sparked the ban.
i admit o canada is a dirgelike tune….an uninspired anthem to be sure…john lennon could have whipped something up….something rather more melodic and progressive….memorable….in a trice….with only his left hand.
but that wouldn’t reflect the patient plodding good natured quotidian qualities we canadians espouse….we mirror the cadence and the verses every day in every thing of moment we encounter….both as a nation and as individuals…..
but properly set up with bagpipe music as hors doeuvre….a colour guard of Mounties in their red tunics…a few veterans gathered in the tableau vivant…..and with a crowd no matter how small of grateful patriots lustily singing those plainchant lyrics there is nothing to compare.
Ezra Levant posts:
“During one all candidates debate, he took on the local Conservative MP, Greg Thompson — for the U.S. war on Iraq. The other candidates wore suits. Millett wore a fake biohazard suit, to “wow” the crowd. The amateur thespian lost the room, though, according to this news report:
“…by handing Mr. Thompson a list of potential jobs his kids could get in Iraq and a box of garbage bags, he said, for their body parts, the crowd turned.
Did you get that? Millett gave Thompson garbage bags… as bodybags for his kids. That’s a little creepy, especially from someone who is now a principal.”
[Millett]”I am: an ally for gay, lesbian, bisexual and trans-gendered persons; anti- racist; pro-feminist and a pacifist at heart. My political influences and inspiration are drawn from: Ernesto (Che) Guevera, Noam Chomsky, Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King Jr., Audrey Lorde, Malcolm X (El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz), Aung San Suu Kyi and Dr. David Suzuki among others.”
http://ezralevant.com/2009/01/anthembanning-principal-a-fail.html
Brent Weston — Outstanding!!
Kate, pretty funny update. A small quibble — I’m sure that by 2000, maybe earlier, the mathematical morality of logging was seriously in question. Heh, heh.
If we’d quit singing our anthem like it was a funeral dirge, it would sound a lot better. Try it with a martial tempo.
What an unpatriotic hiney-hole!
Damn… this guy jackbooted the daily O Canada in a little school just a half-hour’s drive from where I live… hard to believe I’m seeing this sort of thing damn nearly in my own neigborhood…
I rightly rip into the mad moonbat in a post of my own… tit for tat… it’s nothing, really, compared to someone being so insanely unpatriotic and hateful of one’s own country, all for the love of a radically extreme ideology, international socialism or whatever motivates this peculiar little fellow…
http://thecanadiansentinel.blogspot.com/2009/01/moonbat-principal-nixes-daily-o-canada.html
Yeesh! I hope I don’t see this guy in person… dunno if my stomach could hold onto my lunch then… it’d be like the time I saw Noam Chomsky walking by…
Just as the school recitation of the Lord’s Prayer does not assist in “Christianizing” the school population singing the National Anthem does not “Nationalize” the school population. I stood every morning and sang O Canada at start of school and couldn’t leave last class until we sang God Save the Queen but until I had a history teacher who explained the great things Canadians had done in the world I was never a nationalist. BTW every morning before we sang O Canada we recited the Lord’s Prayer. It didn’t make me a Christian and did not give me any greater appreciation of Christianity.
However I am more concerned about the make up of the Green Party and its International roots it is too close to Socialists International and how they would determine the direction Canada should take.
John Luft..good comment.
Failing that he should be stripped naked and tied up in a calf pen for a day or two.
The left just keeps pushing. And when we push back and we will, they will whine and cry like the fu*king babies they are.
a dumbass leftliberal bans the anthem in some donkeyass village in NB. According to my map, only listing Belleisle Creek, that’s within range of the armaments of Gagetown.
I bet the “geezer” up there^^^can’t wait to spread his debt around, at any cost. Liberty isn’t the word/
“Meanwhile anyone who wants it banned from their class room has a good case.”
Posted by: John at January 30, 2009 11:13 AM
Spoken like a teacher, John. They think the classrooms and students BELONG to them, that it’s their little fiefdom. Most of them need a reality check.
Here in B.C. the B.C. Teachers Federation is instructing it’s members to ‘mutiny’ against the Prov. Gov’t by refusing to run the Standardized Assessment Test. They’ve said that if they stick together, there is nothing the gov’t (the employer) can do.
I sometimes work in high schools and I can tell you, the inmates are running the asylums.
If you’d like to share your opinion with Principal Millet and his ‘administrators’ you can do so here:
erik.millett@nbed.nb.ca
Andrew.Hopper@gnb.ca
Margo.Mapplebeck@gnb.ca
Gail.Ward@gnb.ca
Zoe.Watson@gnb.ca
I sent him my comments along with a screenshot from a Belleisle .pdf that shows his students are scoring under 50% on writing skills
Three questions. (1) If three parents complained about NOT singing the anthem, would he reinstitute it? (2) Why didn’t the school superindent do her job? (3) Why is a federal political candidate even allowed to be a school principal? Make a choice. Which ‘career’ do you really want.
BTW – I’d bet a fiver that the ‘complaints’ originated either with himself or members of his teacher union. Recall that in Nanaimo, ‘two complaints’ were received about students putting together Christmas gift boxes to be distributed in Paraquay by Samaritan’s Purse – a Christian organization.
I have it on good authority that the two complaints were by the President of the District Teachers Assn. and his wife. What a fine, shining example to give to the students just in advance of Christmas….errr, I mean the Winter Solstice.
Nope. There’s no leftist agenda.
Time to push back hard on this loon and the system that supports him.
“The uncontested absurdities of today are the accepted slogans of tomorrow. They come to be accepted by degrees, by dint of constant pressure on one side and constant retreat on the other – until one day when they are suddenly declared to be the country’s official ideology.” – Ayn Rand
Every class in every Canadian school should sing Oh Canada period.
The update was hilarious, I roared out loud while eating lunch at work.
Practically every Rememberance Day ceremony I attended at my kids public school included the kids singing Lennon’s Imagination. Each time I was furious and sick all at once. I explained to my kids about how it is a sick utopian/leftist vision. Now whenever we hear that song, they say hey Mom, your favourite song.
The schools would love to brainwash all our kids into thinking no country and no religion is a good idea.
Something like this often reminds me why Romans had decimation. If someone committed treason, one out of 10 men in every company in that legion was killed. As well City officials in rebellion, or whole Provinces. It was the responsibility of the remaining officers to kill their own men. In the cases of rulers that broke faith. The city officials themselves. They chose the soon dead by lots. As well the executioners. Perhaps we should have a revival of older customs on our educators, when they institute totalitarianism under the guise of toleration.
When Disloyalty to ones birth home has become a lifestyle if not pulpit for his own beliefs.
I am tired of these petty mean spirited self loathers, with an itch to be Monarch.
These types will sell us all out for personnel feelings, or power.
Just another community organizer?
JMO
Just saw at National Newswatch…
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090130/anthem_controversy_090130/20090130?hub=TopStories
The moonbat principal is going crying to the NBHRC…
Typical.
The Canadian Sentinel:
The moonbat principal is going crying to the NBHRC…
Why does this come as no suprise. He probably has the CHRC on his Ten list. I wonder who this patsy is really working for?
Who else whould even let him in their doors? Who has so little brains or minds as he, to get a hearing any where on this nonesense? The HRC’s of course! Always up to the task of trashing Canada, America, God, Liberty or free speech, including Morality. This is ready made for them to continue the unravling of the Dominion for the UN on bowed knee to International socialism. With an oddly Islamic flavor.
Wonder if this dude marches in hezballah hate parades as well?
JMO
Wonder if this dude marches in hezballah hate parades as well?
Hard to tell. Many of those folks wear masks!
Time to get your comments in at
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090130/anthem_controversy_090130/20090130?hub=TopStories
It seems that crazy douchebag Millet is following in the footsteps of other great Canadian history deniers. Half-wit Pearson and fancy pants Trudeau declared flag burning and historical distortions a new national past time. Banning the Canadian national anthem because a couple of tribalists find it offensive is a perfect way to continue the destruction and destortions of Canadian history brought about by two of the Liberal parties finest history destroyers and deniers, half -wit Pearson and Disco dictator Trudeau. Estrangement from Canada’s history and traditions is the most effective way to continue to cast adrift multiple generations of Canadians, and makes them much easier to manipulate in the future, facists like Mr.Millet know that only to well.
Wow, he got his arse handed to him at CTV in the comments. Guess what, he’s got no brain of his own so he wants the NBHRC to make the decision for him. This guy is an educator? Wow, just wow.
“The uncontested absurdities of today are the accepted slogans of tomorrow. They come to be accepted by degrees, by dint of constant pressure on one side and constant retreat on the other – until one day when they are suddenly declared to be the country’s official ideology.” – Ayn Rand
Now I remember why I like Rush.
Barry: You can suck the snotty end.
Can I tell the school not to talk about homosexuality because it offends me? Of course not. It’s the old secular double standard.
It’s foolish to send your children to a public school to be indoctrinated by secular socialists. I know one teacher who uses new age principles in her classes. School is a third parent, don’t let your children near a public school.
Did folks know that the rates of sexual abuse by public school teachers are anywhere from 100 to a 1000 times the rates of abuse by Catholic priests. Just google “teacher charged sexual” and you’ll see legions of these cases.
This principal’s behaviour is not much more extreme than that of many—just a little more public. And, as the public educational establishment in this country is a hotbed of left-wing ideology, don’t expect that there will be much sympathy from the powers that be.
The word from the Hon. Kelly Limrock, Minister of Education is promising—but likely led by the strong negative public reaction, rather than conviction. I’ve noticed that most educators are now politicians—not so surprising as the system has been quite thoroughly politicized, from top to bottom. E.g., In “the old days”, teachers were respected. Their integrity, task, and authority were respected and the teacher was given fairly wide latitude to do what he/she needed to: no more. Every school’s like a mini HRC: teachers are at the mercy of any accusation, even if it’s made by a known provocateur and liar. It’s a total mess.
And, our schools are definitely not secular: it’s just that they worship at different altars. The beliefs I’ve recently seen, blatantly on display and kow-towed to, are feminism, LGBT (homosexuality), environmentalism (Global Warming is dogma, but I’ve never seen such dirty, disorganized, messy classrooms in my career), and “Black is Where It’s At”, and the UN and children’s rights as a positive forces.
Examples: an out of the closet teacher has the rainbow flag and a tribute poster to LGBT culture prominently displayed in her class. (The poster appears to have been made by a student—a recruit maybe?) There is a huge, “Obama” bulletin board: “Obama is going to end racism,” is one of the student quotes. Along with the Obama display are countless posters for Black History Month: Martin Luther King is obviously the patron saint. All that’s missing from the above displays are the votive candles.
A poster with the board logo shows a woman’s very red-lipsticked mouth in a very white face—like Kabuki makeup. The words “FEMININE IDEALS” have been edited: the “NE” has been changed to “ST” and the “L” in “IDEALS” struck out. The new motto? “FEMINIST IDEAS”. Isn’t that inclusive? (Feminism’s skewed philosophy—anti-men, “females are all victims”, “we all need special accommodations”, “we deserve to get ahead at the expense of others”, “But we’re nice”—has actually wrecked our public education systems, which are full to the brim with entitled, lazy, bullies, including the feminist “leaders” (male and female).
In the halls are multiple posters, with the union’s logo: “POSITIVE SPACE” blares out from each one and there’s an inverted rainbow triangle. Below it are the words: “This is a place where human rights are respected, and where lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people, and their friends AND ALLIES, [sic] are welcomed and supported.” (emphasis mine: “allies” explicitly makes this a political statement—an exclusionary one, at that. Note too the inappropriate comma between the subject and predicate: what dolts these so-called “educators” are! Too many of them are ignorant propagandists.)
Children’s Rights posters are all over the place and one school flies the UN flag.
Do this proliferation of left-wing propaganda include me? Of course not. And the perpetrators are so blinkered, they’re not even aware of the blatant double standard they’re involved in. Complain about it? And put my head over the rampart for the multiple weapons they have to strike me down? I don’t think so. I choose my battles carefully. These public “education” propaganda machines are juggernauts: they plough down everything in their paths. Seeing that their left-wing ideology is supported by just about every other Canadian institution—MSM, most political parties, the mainline churches, the HRCs, the courts, etc.—it’s a very discouraging battle.
I’m afraid that “doomed” is a pretty good adjective to describe our situation. Oh oh, Canada.
Penultimate paragraph: “DOES this proliferation . . .” (I need to proofread my edits more carefully!)
Cross-posted at Dust My Broom:
Says TwitMillett: “We try to balance the needs of every student, and we want every student to feel welcome in our school.”
What about the students … who like to sing the National Anthem, or whose parents think that O Canada is an honourable tradition? Will they now feel welcome in your school? What “balance” are you talking about? You’ve just played to the complaint of [two parents] one parent; what about all the other parents?
It’s idiots like Millett–an absolutely lousy example of “leadership” — who continue to devalue our national heritage. ‘Looks like Millett was educated in the past 40 years when history became herstory and fewer and fewer Canadians have a clue about who we are as a nation and what forged our national identity.
FIRE. THIS. TRAITOR.
Further to Lookout’s post.
I provide high school students with a job skills and career training program that is both recognized and paid for by major industries.
One of the completion requirements is a twenty minute exam to be administered by the teacher on completion of the materials. The teacher reported back to me that out of thirty students, “only eight students wanted to write the exam”. In other words, as far as the teacher was concerned exams are optional.
Assuming they have completed all the requirements, as the trainer I then ask myself: “would I hire this student?” Of the thirty enrolled in the program, I could only say ‘yes’ in respect to four of them.
In high school classes I often see kids wearing hats and hoodies, listening to MP3 players, texting, holding hands, drinking and eating food, feet up on chairs and desks and using ‘inappropriate language’ – all during ‘instruction time’. And the teachers either find it perfectly acceptable or they have just given up.
Another example? On entering the library at 3:15pm, I noted tons of kids playing first person shooter games (such as ‘Doom’) on the school computers. You know the kind – heads exploding, blood and guts everywhere.
Posted on each computer was a sign stating: ‘No games, no Facebook or other social networking on this computer’.
I asked the assistant librarian about it and she suggested I take it up with the head librarian because their policy is “no action without complaint”. Who is going to complain, the kids? And parents have no clue about what is taking place in their schools.
Interestingly the Asst. Librarian mentioned that she did not allow her own kids to play these games at home.
Meanwhile, in my own district, the teacher’s union is boycotting the Foundational Skills Assessment tests that are a requirement of the Ministry of Education – and they are going to get away with it.
Another great example for our kids – the power of a mob to disregard the law.
No Guff, do I hear you!!
The serious meltdown of standards and accountability in our public schools is a national tragedy. The consequences of such dereliction of integrity and duty are going to be catastrophic. But most people’s heads are in the sand. Most prefer not to be informed.
OK, but if these ostriches think they’ll escape the deluge . . .