A page taken from the Marxist playbook is to create the impression that your side is the undisputed and overwhelming favorite … that opposing “it” is not only silly, but puts you in the “lowbrow” category. In extreme cases, the clear impression that opposing is not conducive to one’s health also comes into play. Of course it’s easy to do this with KIDS … but pulling off the stunt with adults takes the cooperation of the news media.
So it is, that the overwhelmingly pro-Obama press, in the United States and even here in Canada, is bending over backwards to create the impression that a McCain vote (especially Palin vote) is for losers.
Steyn, as usual, gets it right:
“I think of being on an airplane. The flight attendant comes down the aisle with her food cart and, eventually, parks it beside my seat. ‘Can I interest you in the chicken?’ she asks. ‘Or would you prefer the platter of s—t with bits of broken glass in it?’
“To be undecided in this election is to pause for a moment and then ask how the chicken is cooked.”Well, to be honest, I’ve never much cared for chicken.
McCain vs Obama is not the choice many of us would have liked in an ideal world. But then it’s not an “ideal world”, and the belief that it can be made so is one of the things that separates those who think Obama will “heal the planet” and those of us who support McCain faute de mieux. I agree with Thomas Sowell that an Obama-Pelosi supermajority will mark what he calls “a point of no return”. It would not be, as some naysayers scoff, “Jimmy Carter’s second term”, but something far more transformative. The new president would front the fourth great wave of liberal annexation — the first being FDR’s New Deal, the second LBJ’s Great Society, and the third the incremental but remorseless cultural advance when Reagan conservatives began winning victories at the ballot box and liberals turned their attention to the other levers of the society, from grade school up. The terrorist educator William Ayers, Obama’s patron in Chicago, is an exemplar of the last model: forty years ago, he was in favor of blowing up public buildings; then he figured out it was easier to get inside and undermine them from within.
cross-posted @ Cjunk
The US is about 40 years behind Canada.
In 1968, we signed our own Declaration of Dependence by electing Trudeau.
Obama would take a once proud nation of self-sufficient individuals into robots waiting for their handout.
Thankfully, Canada is emerging from this period of slavery to the state in about the same time frame as the citizens of the Soviet Union realized they had made a terrible mistake.
The revolutionary zeal of the original band of murders gave way to post-war reality in about 1957 … and the Soviet Union’s collapse was inevitable.
Those who do not learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat it.
Vive Canada Libre!
If Obama gets elected then maybe Brad Wall should go down to flyover country for his next immigrant recruitment mission. He can honestly tell people what a disaster socialist governments are. Assure them that we in Saskatchewan have learned our lesson and it is now a safe place for capitalists.
OK, so this is not entirely true but a couple hundred thousand free-market Americans would certainly help the “No more NDP” cause.
As for the polls, they are so many and so conflicting, that I doubt they influence anyone anymore. The Reps just really must make sure that their supporters get out and vote. It is surprising to see so many Republican commentators give up so soon.
So the media and the general public are beginning to grasp the depravity of Karl Rove and his band of merry dirty tricksters, and looking for something that isn’t toxic and putrid?
It’s about time.
I think that Steyn should be barred from Canada though. It seem that wherever he goes, socialism soon follows.
I couldn’t agree with Steyn more.
A year ago if somebody had suggested I would be supporting McCain, I would have thought they were as crazy as hell.
But Obama is as close to being an out-and-out enemy of the United States as any political figure running for office that I can think of.
One big problem is that we are in this fix because after a lifetime of struggle we finally managed to get a Republican majority in the Senate and House, and a Republican president.
For years Republican officials had been telling us that the absence of this majority was what was keeping our initiatives from coming to fruition. Then after a heroic struggle we managed to supply this majority, only to have Republican elected officials betray us by starting to act like Democrats more concerned with the favor of the Washington press corps than what we sent them there to do.
Here are a few contingencies we are talking about.
1) Unlike Canada, we have a very large conservative establishment already in existence… talk shows, conservative voters, conservative think tanks, etc., etc. This probably would mean that in the eventuality of an Obama presidency, criticism and retaliation would begin almost immediately.
2) If Obama wins and starts to do all these socialist initiatives, Democrats will begin to get the blame for this un-American activity. And there’ll be a lot of anger against Obama.
3) McCain and Palin win, but since McCain has spent many years running against the Republican establishment, he will have no coattails. So he will not be able to prevail against majorities of Democrats in the Senate and the House. Everything goes to hell, and Republicans get the blame because McCain is seen as the dominant guy.
4) The support for Palin demonstrates how vigorous the conservative grassroots are, and had she been the presidential nominee rather than veep, a Republican victory would be much more probable. Her elevation to the national stage will not go away even if we lose, and she will act as a rallying figure for conservative support and energy, directed at the next election.
The Repubs have sown the seeds of this scenario with incompetent self-serving divisive governance in the past 8 years.
Give them 4 years in the dog house to remember what the USA is about. Make them read Thomas Jefferson a few dozen times. Maybe they rediscover themselves and the USA.
In the meantime, Obama won’t get a free ride. If he starts to go too nutty, the people will not let it slide. Congressional elections are in 2 years.
If there had been a better choice than McCain, and a less economically disastrous situation than we have now, Obama would not have been elected. As it is, I don’t see how he can lose.
I cannot believe, although it is before my very own lyin’ eyes, that such a messianic and vainglorious personality cult campaign could really engulf 300 million people.
The Ubermessiah is George Soros’ (white) house boy.
Greg, are you seriously suggesting that there WILL be a planet if McCain/Palin win?
I’ve been led to believe that the globe (not to mention the universe) will explode if THAT insult to the human race happens.
I look forward to Palin becoming the first female POTUS in 2012.
Lori, the problem with Bush was that he, domestiocally, did not support conservative policies.
What he did get right was The Bush Doctrine. Although many rabid democrats may rail against it, I wait to see if the Democratic Establishment undo it.
With the recent endorsements for the Big O coming from so-called Republicans(Powell and Mclellan, to name a few) I’m wondering if the hint that Palin wants to shake up Washington has a few of them on edge.
Obama is less of the threat to the ‘old boys club’.
Come to think of it he is no threat at all….especially to the enemies of the USA.
CTV.ca had a ‘list’ of gaffes by each candidate. Biden’s, of course, was conspicuously skimpy.They still assume they are educating the masses.
Michelle Malkin has a very concise summary of all the issues and the candidates.
Joe Biden quote “Jobs is a three letter word.”
Mark Stein is one of the best!
As said in an earlier comment, I would have been shocked to here myself, a year ago, saying that I supported McCain. But the stakes are just too high.
To put it into a Canadian frame, Barack Obama makes Stephane Dion look like a right of centre Liberal.
And America is about to vote him into office with Democrat majorities in both the house and Senate.
Glad I’m Canadian!
I cannot believe, although it is before my very own lyin’ eyes, that such a messianic and vainglorious personality cult campaign could really engulf 300 million people
well lets say about 80 years ago one of the most staid people in the world embraced one that was a socialist orator. the national socialist party – shut down debate. nationalized industries. made race an issue.
Eight years of big spending, big government, and deficit running by a hugely disappointing executive. Time to give the other team a try. Electing Obama won’t kill conservatism. It was already killed by Bush.
Two things will happen if Obama is elected and both houses come under control of the democrats.
-1- Capital flight
-2- Disappointment the likes of which occurred when Ontario got an NDP government and all the ones that thought it would be payback time found themselves getting that sandwich with the broken glass.
Now there is a good side to this.
What happened after Ontario’s bout with Bob? Mike Harris.
I see a strong likelyhood that after four years of Obama and Pelosi there will be a 180 degree correction.
Wow. I just read the Mark Steyn NR linked article. He truly is a Master of Misrepresentation.
if O-bambam loses, there will be riots in the streets
IF, and that’s a big if, O-bambam wins there will be celebration in the streets, that will likely turn into roits in the streets
I’m stockedup on pop, chips and pop corn. Don’t want to get drunk and pass out before the end of such a big event:-)))
also, IF O-bambam wins, the first big task will be ECONOMICS, which will mean a probable turn to the right, and with pi$$ing off many of his constituents, so we could see a lot of dem in-fighting, and that should give the repubs a big boost in 2 and 4 years
I dream in messiah color!!!!!:-)))))
gimbol: What happened after Ontario’s bout with Bob? Mike Harris.
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Exactly! We had the weak kneed PC party of Bill Davis which was more like the federal liberals of today, and when they ran out of steam, the PCs that replaced them after a time in the doghouse were those of Mike Harris – the best premier Ontario has ever had (except for the way he screwed Toronto).
Lori is right on!
Maybe on Oboma 4 years is the wake up call America needs.
Funny…misrepresentation is one of the words that aptly describes angry left feminism…particularly the claim that they speak for all women.
No..only men hating wymin and bozos.
‘Can I interest you in the chicken?’
should be…
I’m an American southerner .I’ve been a lurker here for several years . It’s been a great pleasure to read and learn about the conservative presence in Canada. The thought of an Obama presidency worries the he## out of me.
A real , no sh*t, leftist as president of the U.S. would be something the civilised world would come to regret very quickly .
Many thanks to SDA for links and info on the Canadian military . You’re guys are bad a** . It’s good to have you with us again. As it should be.
Half jokingly and hopefully not too far off topic . Any thoughts about the Canadian west joining the U.S? I’ve seen discussions about that idea from both the U.S. and Canadian perspective . It’s always seemed to me that the arguments in favor of the idea were pretty sound . Usually followed by the words ” But it’ll never happen.”
Hey Aubrey ..I’m in Ontario so I can’t speak for the westerners that comment here. But my first reaction to your question is…not if the Big O ends up POTUS!
Newt in 2012!
The shit sandwich reference isn’t Steyn’s. It’s David Sedaris’s idea and he wrote it in the New Yorker.
Canadian West joining the US.
Well, its always been a possibility and was seriously discussed by the US State Department and was leaked as a briefing paper in the mid 80’s if memory serves. It made its way onto the Editorial page of the Wall Street Journal.
I believe the conclusion was that they liked the resources but wondered what point there’d be to admitting a huge flood of Democrat voters. Hell, if they want that, just let ACORN take care of it.
aubrey, you can probably get Alberta. At the rate that province is going, polluting its water, it will soon be on par with Louisiana.
Make sure you treat the citizens in that province-soon-to-be-US-state as well as you do the Cajuns and all the other good folks in Louisiana.
How will an Obama presidency affect Canada? Very adversely, I can tell you, because Obama is beholden to the big US unions and with the US totally controlled by Democrats, we in Canada and Mexico are going to be hit with a protectionist wall to save their manufacturing jobs. Democrats are protectionist politicians, Republicans are free traders, and we should not be surprise if president Obama unilaterally skirts NAFTA and sucks jobs primarily out of Ontario back to the States.
Obama has already promised to give US employers a tax credit for “new jobs”, and that will be an incentive for US companies to shut down Canadian branch plants and relocate the work Stateside.
The big US unions will pressure a president Obama and the Detroit Big 3(or2) to bring car production back to the States, and, an Obama administration will demand that they close down their auto plants in Canada and Mexico if they want their $50 Billion bailout package from Washington.
An fully Democrat White House and both Houses of Congress will rape Ontario and make it into a Rust Belt, because they will undoubtedly be ultra-protectionist under the current economic climate.
Pray for a surprise McCain-Palin victory …..
We just finished a lengthy conversation with the kids about socialist indoctrination at the schools. The most frightening thing was my older son mentioning the ‘peace pigeon’ in one of his world awareness brochures. Canada is not emerging from anywhere, it’s sinking.
I have my copy of the National Post.
Dated Friday 24th October 2008. Page A17.
Letters Of The Day.
“Obama’s key to victory:
white, female voters”.
A large photo of the young lady with the T shirt captioned “Barack My World”. A letter from – well a gentleman of Middle-Eastern origin. We are told of the tidal wave of young, white female voters who will “sweep aside John McCain’s mostly middle-aged male white voters”.
I chuckle and look at these same handsome, well fed, cosseted persons. It’s a free country of course.
Did their grand mothers tell them about Rudolph Valentino? Maybe Barack will come and sweep them off their feet. A man twice their age and with quite the feisty spouse. (chuckle).
Is it me, or has the National Post got a tingle down it’s leg?
debeauxO…..Strangely enough Albertans probably don’t want or need cradle to grave welfare like a lot of people in Louisiana .
After reading several of your pathetic knee jerk posts it’s obvious where you’re coming from . Your type are a dime a dozen down here .
Did Bush personally blow up the levees in New Orleans ? You a 9/11 truther , as well ?
She’s a hard left angry fembot…went to the blog…once.
and condecsending toward the guys who look pretty happy jammin’ in the cabin! Of course…they are guys and they are happy.
I’d love to hang around a bonfire with them anytime.
The Wall Street Journal today rounds up the horde of prominent Republicans jumping ship to Barack Obama. Now one of McCain’s actual advisers has switched sides:
Charles Fried, a professor at Harvard Law School, has long been one of the most important conservative thinkers in the United States. Under President Reagan, he served, with great distinction, as Solicitor General of the United States. Since then, he has been prominently associated with several Republican leaders and candidates, most recently John McCain, for whom he expressed his enthusiastic support in January.
This week, Fried announced that he has voted for Obama-Biden by absentee ballot. In his letter to Trevor Potter, the General Counsel to the McCain-Palin campaign, he asked that his name be removed from the several campaign-related committees on which he serves. In that letter, he said that chief among the reasons for his decision “is the choice of Sarah Palin at a time of deep national crisis.”
I have more than a bit of difficulty believing that a majority of Americans will vote Obama into the White House. While most are quite aware of the pork barrel realities involved in electing certain senators and representatives, the presidency is on a different level.
It is little remarked that Bill Clinton caught the Dem nomination because much better candidates thought Bush Snr. was unbeatable and chose not to run. Then Bush blew it and Clinton was too far ahead for a challenge.
Like Mark Steyn, I am not impressed with Obama or McCain. The pressures involved in being president will likely break either of them.
“A large photo of the young lady with the T shirt captioned “Barack My World”
well, it is widely known that these black men have huge male members when campared to white men, so that must be why Obama will be the next president of the united states. Imagine your wive’s and daughter’s fantasies coming true. more potent than even bill clinton, I guess. imagine not only being politically devistated by the cometition but also emasculated into the deal. a bitter pill, i’m sure
“Did Bush personally blow up the levees in New Orleans ? You a 9/11 truther, as well?”
What a bizarre thing to ask about your president, aubrey. Do you think he did that?
There was a hurricane named Katrina, IIRC.
To your credit, you haven’t joined in with the frat boys’ obscene and envious little fantasies regarding Obama.
I see someone has THEIR fantasy over black men.
Just as long as your dream is not called Aziga. (chuckle).
“Former Secretary of State Colin Powell’s broadside on Sunday was only the first of the recent GOP defections. The latest arrived Friday from former Republican Gov. William Weld of Massachusetts, who had endorsed former Gov. Mitt Romney over McCain in the GOP primary. Now Weld endorses Obama, calling the Democrat “a once-in-a-lifetime candidate who will transform our politics and restore America’s standing in the world.”
On Thursday, former Republican Gov. Arne Carlson of Minnesota endorsed Obama and ripped McCain in an essay for the Minneapolis Star Tribune. Carlson said he saw in the Democrat “a remarkably disciplined and focused
“I’m ready to call this election. It’s going to be a big win for Barack Obama.
I know this because of a story I heard from an employee of a major polling organization. He tells of a poll worker who was interviewing homeowners in a small town in central Pennsylvania, part of that “real” American hailed by Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin. The man knocked on the door, and when the woman of the house answered, told her he was a pollster and wanted to know how her household planned to vote in November.
The woman turned and yelled into the house, “Honey, how are we voting this year?”
From inside the house, a male voice yelled back, “I guess we’re voting for the nigger.”
The woman turned to the stunned pollster and, without a hint of embarrassment, said, “I guess we’re voting for Obama.”
Simply put, Obama has won the racist vote, a core Republican constituency since the late 1960s.
The thing you have to remember is that this election is going to be close either way it goes.
You can imagine where Canada would have been had Trudeau only won, say, 57% of the vote. It would have meant that almost half of the country still supported a conservative point of view.
Although Obama could win, we could even have a situation a bit like last time, where McCain could wind up winning the popular vote.
Despite what the yahoos want you to believe, Democratic internal polls put this a lot closer than their spin. Naturally, the MSM is in the tank for Obama, and so their polls are pitched in a way to suggest dramatic Democratic superiority.
A couple of tactics are
1. Do your polling in Democratic areas
2. Neglect polling of likely registered voters
3. On your poll ask questions in such a way that perjorative opinion of Republicans is mild or distant.
They’re using many different devices to suggest that Obama’s numbers are greater than they are. This is why Obama keeps circling back to some of the same states where the polls are supposedly in his favor. Because internally they know they haven’t gotten it locked up.
Colin Powell, Peggy Noonan, Kathleen Parker, Christopher Buckly, and David Brooks have all demonstrated themselves to be turncoats to the conservative movement. One of the hottest topics among Republicans is how the elite Republicans are denigrating Palin, who is a favorite among the grassroots.
I’ve used this metaphor before, but imagine Richard and Emily Gilmore in ‘The Gilmore Girls’ as elite members of the Republican Party. Despite the fact that they are Republicans, they have more in common with their wealthy, Ivy-league, leftist friends than they do with ordinary people. And as a consequence, they are constantly denigrating smart, good people like Luke, Lorelei’s boyfriend in Star’s Hollow, and this is why Republican insider pundits will be ostracized as the conservative base reconstitutes itself.
(I wonder if during Obama’s visit back home he has managed to rummage around in the attic and finally find his elusive birth certificate that states he is, in fact, an American citizen.)
“Although Obama could win, we could even have a situation a bit like last time, where McCain could wind up winning the popular vote.”
Greg’s been hittin’ the hard cider again. 1st…the pollsters never call people with cell phones, which is why Mccain isn’t even wore off in the polls. Most young americans these days don’t have land lines and thus arent polled.
Ever consider that bush cheney and now McCain are turncoats to the conservative tradition? there will be a realignment all right. the libertarians and isolationists who used to be the conservative party will be purging the religous wackos and the folks who think over extending the US militarily for personal gain and destroying the constitution is somehow conservative. one guesses the SCOTUS is siding with voter’s rights instead of obstruction because obama’s backround in constatutional law vs Mccain’s incomptant flying and involvement in the keating 5…or not….anyway, No one around here is voting republican this time around…well, no one but the nutz and those who fear indictments are coming. It might be different in Texas, but then texas ain’t hardly normal. PS, your metaphor sucks
On Thursday the Pennsylvania GOP sent out an email to 75,000 Jewish voters in the state warning that electing Obama could lead to a second Holocaust, the AP reports:
“Jewish Americans cannot afford to make the wrong decision on Tuesday, November 4th, 2008,” the e-mail reads. “Many of our ancestors ignored the warning signs in the 1930s and 1940s and made a tragic mistake. Let’s not make a similar one this year!”
It warns “Fellow Jewish Voters” of the danger of a second Holocaust due to the threats to Israel from its neighbors and touts Republican presidential candidate John McCain’s qualifications over those of Obamathe same guy who on Thursday, the day the email went out, was pushing the mugging hoax to reporters as a politically motivated attack by a black Obama supporter, playing to the worst of white fears and racial prejudices.
Speaking of the email to Jewish voters and without any apparent hint of irony, Feldman told the AP Saturday night that McCain “rejects politics that degrade our civics.”
“Simply put, Obama has won the racist vote, a core Republican constituency”
Ignorance knows no bounds within a leftists’, brain does it?
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans. Why? From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks. And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S’s: slavery, secession, segregation and now socialism.
It was the Democrats who fought to keep blacks in slavery and passed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws. The Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize blacks. The Democrats fought to prevent the passage of every civil rights law beginning with the civil rights laws of the 1860s, and continuing with the civil rights laws of the 1950s and 1960s.
It was Republican President Dwight Eisenhower who pushed to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1957 and sent troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools. President Eisenhower also appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court, which resulted in the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision ending school segregation.
Oh, and what of the Democrat messiah Kennedy? He voted against the 1957 Civil Rights Act while he was a senator, as did Democrat Sen. Al Gore Sr. And after he became President, Kennedy was opposed to the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King that was organized by A. Phillip Randolph, who was a black Republican. President Kennedy, through his brother Atty. Gen. Robert Kennedy, had Dr. King wiretapped and investigated by the FBI on suspicion of being a Communist in order to undermine Dr. King.
In March of 1968, while referring to Dr. King’s leaving Memphis, Tenn., after riots broke out where a teenager was killed, Democrat Sen. Robert Byrd (W.Va.), a former member of the Ku Klux Klan, called Dr. King a “trouble-maker” who starts trouble, but runs like a coward after trouble is ignited. A few weeks later, Dr. King returned to Memphis and was assassinated on April 4, 1968.
It was the Republicans who fought to free blacks from slavery and amended the Constitution to grant blacks freedom (13th Amendment), citizenship (14th Amendment) and the right to vote (15th Amendment). Republicans passed the civil rights laws of the 1860s, including the Civil Rights Act of 1866 and the Reconstruction Act of 1867
Republicans also started the NAACP and affirmative action with Republican President Richard Nixon’s 1969 Philadelphia Plan (crafted by black Republican Art Fletcher) that set the nation’s fist goals and timetables. Although affirmative action now has been turned by the Democrats into an unfair quota system, affirmative action was begun by Nixon to counter the harm caused to blacks when Democrat President Woodrow Wilson in 1912 kicked all of the blacks out of federal government jobs.
How about the immortal words of Democrat President Johnson, who in 1967, showing his anger with Dr. King’s protest against the Vietnam War, referred to Dr. King as “that Nigger preacher.”
That, in a nutshell is the proud racist tradition of your party. And it’s no secret that racist parties attract racists such as yourself – harumph, regardless of your empty-headed ignorance, lies and historical revisionism.
Re: Posted by: hmmmm at October 25, 2008 11:33 PM
Are you suggesting that women vote with their vaginas ????!!!!!