28 Replies to “Deja Vu! Deja Vu!”

  2. You know if you wrap a Gramscian whore-community organizer up in pretty gift package, it still smells like a rotten communist fish.

  4. Thanks, Darrell, I linked it and fired it off to the CBC omsbudman. They need all of the feedback they can get. I received a reply to my first irate email that they forwarded it to a senior editor.

  5. I want Heather Mallick to be struck from ever being allowed to put any of her malicious, filthy, diatribe anywhere on our publicly funded network.
    We have to fire plenty of complaints about her filthy article off to the CBC Ombudsman.

  6. Harvard genius displaying his rhetorical brilliance. And, he didn’t even have to use a teleprompter!

  7. I want Heather Mallick to be struck from ever being allowed to put any of her malicious, filthy, diatribe anywhere on our publicly funded network.

    Now, be nice, Liz. Who else would publish it?
    🙂

  8. Obama’s “lipstick” remark quite surprised me.
    I had the sense that he would be fairly careful in handling Palin, knowing the potential minefield he would be wandering into.
    Also, targeting Palin would put Obama in the position of duking it out with the wrong member of the opposing team (his target should be the guy he is competing with – McCain – not the Veep contender).
    This must surely have been an extemporaneous remark. If not, it suggests a speed wobble in the Obama campaign team and a “crise de nerfs” as we might say, en famille et entre nous.
    Either way, “lipstick on a pig” is no doubt going to haunt Obama from here on in.

  9. now Biden and Obama plagerizing, how high school.
    no wonder Obamas summer jobs are listed on his resume for prez.
    I wonder if he was captain of the debating team?

  10. “lipstick on a pig”
    –JJM, this expression was used by McCain when describing Hilary’s health care proposals.
    –Take the expression in the context it is meant for. Of course, the baiters are jumping all over this because of Palin’s gender. It’s another example of political correctness and being offended by every expression run amok.
    –The right wing are always complaining(rightly so in most cases) about political correctness so it is ironic that they are offended and indignant. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Suck it up.

  11. Hey, obviously the rookie is already learning the ropes from his new veteran buddy Joe Biden. Next will be lessons on popularity (Mr. Less-than-1% in Iowa)- It will be fun to watch!

  13. Golly when I saw Obama use the phrase he credited Tom Toles by name for originating it in his cartoon.
    Just like the faux “lipstick” controversy though, you guys really have nothing so you make stuff up and massage controversies into being. must be ‘hard work’ for ya!
    It’s really a measure of how great Obama is that you guys have to work overtime inventing this stuff (even more than usual!).

  16. Canuckcluck at 4:48
    Yep, McCain used the “lipstick on a pig” metaphor to describe Hillary Clinton’s ill-conceived healthcare scheme. That is perfectly acceptable. Especially since it was one of her prior schemes, with a little new window-dressing. Again, this is acceptable political commentary, directed, as it clearly was, towards her policies.
    Now, look at the context in which Obama made his remark. First and foremost, less than a week before Obama’s use of the phrase, Sarah Palin self-described as a hockey mom, and joked that the only difference between a pit bull and a hockey mom is that the latter wears lipstick. In effect, by so doing, she has made “lipstick” a reference to herself in the political marketplace.
    Given that context, only an utter fool would subsequently use the “lipstick-pig” metaphor in relation to GOP policies, simply because there is too much danger of it being taken as an ad-hominem against Palin. If one is trying to take the high road, one would be well-advised to avoid using rhetoric that could be taken the wrong way.
    So what it comes down to, is that Obama is either preternaturally stupid in his choice of words, or he is nasty and vindictive, or maybe both. Watching the response of his audience, it’s pretty clear that they took his meaning to be an ad-hominem.

  17. Read the link, real, do you not find it odd that a presidential candidate repeats a speech balloon from a cartoon – hey, that rhymes! – practically word for word?. Oh, that oratorical obama, he got a silver tongue!

  18. Posted by: Darrell at September 10, 2008 4:09 PM
    The same article is also posted on Rabble.ca.
    Just looked at their lead item is about Brad ‘Wal-Mart’ and Saskatchewan’s turn right.
    Time to flame the flamers, I figure.

  19. I do believe that Obama’s “lipstick on a pig” comment was simply the use of a common turn of phrase without specific or malicious intent toward Sarah Palin. However, the controversy sits well on Obama and the Dems generally since they love to put on faux outrage about virtually everything. After the Dem primary campaign during which virtually every democrat, as in the papal schism, was under a ban of excommunication for either racism or misogyny it is amusing to see Obama pleading for an abandonment of the very hypersensitivity which is the lifeblood of his party.
    It would be nice to see a locking of horns on qualities of leadership and specific policies. Now if Obama could simply enunciate a specific policy . . .

  20. DrDave:
    If it truly were an innocent remark, then what did Obama mean, moments afterward by: ‘you can wrap up an old fish in new paper, but it still stinks?’

  21. It doesn’t matter whether it was innocent of cynical. It was stoopid. McCain has to make a little of it, because otherwise, the networks wouldn’t have shown it. He needed to get this in front of as many voters as possible.
    Did you hear that leftards? McCain needs to show Obama’s words to as many voters as possible. Slowbama’s intentions in this are completely irrelevant. If he is still talking about this tomorrow, it shows a lack of faith in Slowbama’s gaffomatic, otherwise known as his mouth.
    Oh yeah, and you leftard posters can go from kitchen to kitchen accross America explaining to women that Slowbama didn’t mean it like it sounded…. Good luck with that.

  22. -Take the expression in the context it is meant for.
    Exactly, and in this campaign its directly in context to the pitbull comment, whether the Obamton wants it that way or not. The Hillary health care reference a “lifetime” away won’t even register with most people unless they’ve been reminded of it, even if they heard it the first time (most likely didn’t). But the pitbull/lipstick comment has had guaranteed saturation, from the original speech,from the hockey mom context (you can safely bet EVERY hockey mom in the US has used that at least once since Palin uttered it), to all of the media coverage. For this campaign Palin OWNS that reference, Obama tried to use it and is smeared by it as a result, and so he loses twice on it – once for insulting Palin, once for appropriating her reference.
    You can dress the big Zero up all you want, but even a dab of lipstick won’t pretty that sad sack. LOL!

  23. “–JJM, this expression was used by McCain when describing Hilary’s health care proposals.”
    Canuckguy:
    That is true – but almost entirely irrelevant since it is a forgotten soundbite from long, long ago.
    Elections are about perceptions as you well know. The public doesn’t remember or even particularly give a fig about what McCain said way back on Hillary’s health care ideas.
    The public remembers “Palin-hockey moms-pitbulls-lipstick”. From there, the inference that Obama is suggesting Palin is a pig – rightly or wrongly – is all too easy to make.

  24. Slowbama’a so slow that McCain has to ditch his Experience catchphrase and adopt Slowbama’s Change message.
    If Slowbama’s slow what does that make McCain?
    Haw! Haw! Haw!

  25. JJM
    Thank you. You’ve revealed something very important in your post.
    As you say, elections are about perception. The ‘inference’ that some want to make from Obama’s comment was massaged into being by lying Republican operatives and is now being reinforced by repetition by them in every way they know how. They’re knowingly pushing forth a lie.
    The posters here – including yourself – are part of that process. And it’s refreshing to hear you admit that reality doesn’t matter, only the created impression does – the lie. It is refreshing to hear a right-winger admit that truth doesn’t matter to the right.

  26. “The posters here – including yourself – are part of that process. And it’s refreshing to hear you admit that reality doesn’t matter, only the created impression does – the lie. It is refreshing to hear a right-winger admit that truth doesn’t matter to the right.”
    “real”:
    Interesting because you are obviously as much a victim of your own perceptions as anyone else. You know nothing about me but you automatically assume I’m a “right-winger”. Why? Because I posted here?
    For what it’s worth, I’m not an American and I have no dog (or pig for that matter) in this fight.
    I am interested in the election; it’s the most fascinating presidential contest I’ve watched in some time, with amazing twists and turns. These have included:
    1. The comprehensive rout of the “Clinton Coronation” by the impressive Senator Obama coming out of nowhere.
    2. The slick tactical move by the McCain camp to suck the oxygen out of Obama’s big night by announcing Palin as their VP candidate.
    As a Canadian, I almost envy the Yanks. By comparison, our own tedious snooze-fest of an election between four boring white guys is just a plain annoyance.
    Also, a quick surf through the net for the vituperative half-truths, lies and obsenities spread by the left of the political spectrum about Palin should remind you that truth doesn’t matter much to that side either.
    We are in the last stretch of this presidential election process. Both sides will be playing hardball now.

  27. Shades of 1968.

    A crowd of 3000 massing down at Sault Ste Marie’s Clergue Park. A steel worker
    rushing off before his relief at Algoma- “I’ve got to see that man!”

    Yes, Pierre Elliot Trudeau, was the Mr Charisma of the election. For some good reason, nice guy Joe Clark got into power briefly after Trudeau. Must have been a reason. Then they got rid of Clark.

    Obama has to have a lot of expectant backers, if he is elected, they are in a rude shock. If they get fulfilled expectations, then some other group will pay the piper- the most vulnerable of the working and lower middle class.

  28. We all know what a dirty lowdown liberal sidewinding hornytoady owlhoot TOM TOLES is like the rest of those no good liberal left-wing news media that supports the demacreep party of creeps

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