I say we lock them in a room with PETA, a chainsaw, and a bucket of KFC.
But then, I’ve always leaned towards practical solutions.
Update – perhaps there’s a place for PETA in this issue after all. It’s not often we witness a Dawg subjected to a beating like this. (Well, ok. It does happen pretty often.)
PETA – People Even Taste Awful …uuugghhhh.
Only a lefty intending to undermine “freedom of speech” would bring up these two examples of “freedom of speech”. Both examples, PETA and Westborough, are assaults to human decency, and only a socialist would be unaware of that.
Reg,
if it were a group of Americans and the Canadian public demanded that the government deny them entry to our nation, I wouldn’t have a problem with that and I’m all for a neo nazi’s funeral being protested.
“The state has no reason, nor moral right, to bar anyone entry to Canada just because they don’t like what he/she might say or think.”
What a bunch of bull. We have a right to bar anyone from entering this country for any reason. They do not have the same rights as our own citizens do.
In Canada we have anti-hate legislation which outweighs freedom of speech. Furthermore, in Canada it is illegal to disrupt a religious service, it is illegal to conspire to disrupt a religious service, and it is certainly illegal to “sneak into” this country when you have already been denied entry. I hope the RCMP do the right thing and arrest them all…. after all, they will have broken several of our laws.
And for the people who actually believe Canada is a free country, let me remind you that Canada is a Democracy, and demecracy by its very definition means the OPPOSITE of “free.” If Canada were a “free” country, the killer wouldn’t be in jail, would he?
It’s worth putting this into context. It’s not a freedom of speech issue. Canadians don’t have unfettered access to American public lands because we aren’t American citizens. We play by whatever rules they set when it comes to our entering their land. The same is true of American citizens seeking entry into Canada. Americans do not have unfettered access to Canadian public lands.
As it is though, this is not a free speech issue.
Contrary to some that think that the whole world can walk into Canada without any set of rules is living in some ( not really that surprising) never never land and is being something commonly described as a moron.
Canada is a sovereign country and it is valid to say that the government, what ever it is so far as politics, has a say who can and cannot enter the country, terrifying as it sounds, it is the way it is, lesser of two evils as it were.
If the populace chooses a different approach, perhaps the politicos will have to amend the laws.
In this case, it is that the law is with the decency and against barbarism.
The crowd from Hillsborough is neither decent, civilized nor religious. Basically the have their heads stuck up their collective asses and know their sheet.
The maximum effect is from everybody that opposes the idiots and never lets up.
If they did not get any publicity, it is doubtful that they would continue their low life being obnoxious idiots. Publicity is as potent as opium to some.
Ok, forget Hillsborough, let it be Westboro
Actually the greatest difficulty I have with this group is the method of delivering their message rather than the message itself. I don’t share their outlook on life and I equate their method with that of the gay lobbyists that used to rush the altar of Catholic Churches desecrating the Host.
However I do think that their message itself needs to be heard. We as a society need to hear from all extremes no matter how offensive they be to our orthodoxies. A society that is never challenged soon becomes flaccid and never reaches its full potential.
BTW I would ban them from Canada until they modify their delivery method.
Having known of the Phelps clan and having seen them in action personally, my advice is to completely ignore them. They feed on creating strong negative reactions in otherwise peaceful people. It’s what they live for.
Please starve the monster. I bet they are so excited with all the new website hits they’ve received since the announcement. To them it says, “Look at that, see how powerful and relevant we are?”
As usual Dawg was quick to blame conservatives, read most of his posts and by the time you get to the second paragraph he has blamed conservatives in general, Bush, Harper or others on the right, which make most of his posts as unreadable as the old propaganda magazines from China or the Soviet Union,
Dwag is an idiot.
If he shut up you’d never know though.
The Westboro church is like a patch of dandelions on your lawn. The more you kick them, the stronger they get. And just when you think they’re gone, they reappear in another location. Just like any weeds, if they are to be completely removed, you must have a well thought out strategy.
– “Canada has the right to bar any non-citizen from our land for any reason we damn well please.”
– “We have a right to bar anyone from entering this country for any reason.”
– “Barring scumbags of all sorts is a collective right we ought to be exercising more often.”
Well, this is interesting. The collectivist & totalitarian tendencies seem to reside not too far below the surface.
Of course, should someone pose a clear threat to one or more individual in Canada, then the state has the right, and obligation, to bar his/her from entering the country.
But “for any reason”? Defined by whom? The mob? The buruaucracy? The Queen? God?
And, since when is there such a thing as “collective rights”? Presumably the writer refers to the collective with rights such as the right to bar private delivery of healthcare, or the collective’s right to force workers to belong to a union and support NDP (against their will). Or the collective’s right to impose HRC defined limits on free speech.
Btw, why should a citizen scumbag/criminal have more rights than an honest and hard working foreigner?
That was a nice poem, but I’m afraid there must be another “dp” posting here. I’m not much of a poet. If someone else wants to use “dp” would you mind using capitals or something?
I think there’s more to this problem than free speech. They’re infringing on someone’s religious freedom to grieve, and celebrate the life of a family member, with dignity. This is an accepted ritual in this country, and nobody has the right to interfere, not even the media.
I imagine the police will do the right thing, but you never know.
Dwag is an idiot.
If he shut up you’d never know though.
Posted by: ldd at August 9, 2008 9:05 AM
I’ve just read some of Dawg’s work for the first time and strongly suspect that his incoherent ramblings are written tongue-in-cheek for the sole purpose of annoying anyone right of centre.
It’s just not possible for someone to be that obtuse and lacking in common sense. Is it?