I mean, is this someone I should know?.
His so-called “child” soldier witnessed the destruction of 9/11. Thus, this so-called “Canadian” chose to fight at the side of foreign terrorists he knew were capable of mass murder. And after finding himself on the losing end of a firefight, this so-called “anxious innocent” watched his one, last “help me” opportunity come and go as he lay in the Afghan dirt.
Instead of grabbing it, he threw a grenade.
So, now he begs?
Omar Khadr deserved to be dispatched then and there. His father might have been dispatched by the Pakistanis, which would have spared everyone a great deal of trouble, were it not for the meddling of Chretien. We made that mistake once – we need not make it again.
So yes, Mr. Good – kill them all. Kill every last one of the wretched vermin and do it before they breed.
I hope he appreciates the traffic bump, whoever he is.
Update – Self described blogging behemoth Matt Good sent a total of 190 visitors to SDA as a result of his July 15th link. Woohoo! Why, that’s nearly 100 a day – bumping the traffic here by nearly 1%, or to look at it another way, by 1/5th the number who arrived at the page via Kathy Shaidle in six hours.
If there ever was a way to impress a backwoods xenophobe about the strength of your readership, I can’t think of a better one. Except perhaps, by mentioning the 70 times you’ve “crossed the country”. Hey, it’s a start!
Upperdate! – unable to prove his “my traffic is bigger than yours” claims, Mr. Good decided that deletion was the better part of valor. Not that it stopped him from whining. Nevermind that Mr. Ad Hominem Is Not Tolerated Here chose to fire the first shot with tired, stereotypical references to “backwoods” Canada that can only be described as abject bigotry. Like every good lefty elitist, Matthew Good’s “multiculturalism” doesn’t include yours.
Becki –
We would never have known that Matthew is a perverted internet luring womanizer who got screwed in a divorce until you brought it up. And, trust me, anything we said about Matt pales in comparison to your revelations.
Any chance you and “don’t want creeps” spilling her beans on Matt at 4:12 are one and the same? – OR – you wouldn’t be one of Matt Good’s disciples gaming the crowd here?
Fess up, it’s just too perfectly Jerry Springer to be real.
Wait a minute….you mean Matthew Good’s song “Time Bomb” wasn’t about Khadr?
“…So yes, Mr. Good – kill them all. Kill every last one of the wretched vermin and do it before they breed…”
Dear Kate
Are you single? If so when and where can we get married. I don’t think I’m going to meet another gal quite like you! 😛
Regards
Fred
I’m glad that you’re writing this blog as an effort to stand up for yourself and your beliefs, but your overall negativity and attacking people for not agreeing with you is uncomfortably characteristic of Republican reflex for my liking.
If nothing else, as adults, can we not harbour an open dialogue and accept people’s opinions for what they are? This entry and it’s comments is exactly the sort of exchange I’d expect from the sorts that begin and encourage the conflicts overseas that affect us all.
Bobby wrote : “If nothing else, as adults, can we not harbour an open dialogue and accept people’s opinions for what they are? This entry and it’s comments is exactly the sort of exchange I’d expect from the sorts that begin and encourage the conflicts overseas that affect us all.”
Shut up Bobby, I bet you’re the type of Metrosexual that wears a Ponytail;)
Gawd, the Retard Brigade is even more incoherent than Matty Good.
Amazing. Didn’t think that was possible.
BTW Angela, I usually default straight to the name calling with you lot. Logic, facts, you don’t care. Waste of time arguing with you.
The lives of 1000 pseudo-Canadian Jihadists like
Kadr are not worth the life of one Christopher James Speer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_J._Speer
Let the b*stard rot in Gitmo forever.
Hello all,
I would like to begin by stating that I am in disbelief over the level of intelligence and maturity within some of the replies here. I would expect that, on a seemingly political blog such as this one, I would expect the majority of the comments to be of the constructive nature. Obviously, I am wrong, as the majority are merely destructive, flaming, and downright insulting.
That being said, I’m a little concerned for humanity. Khadr was 15 years old. He had been brought up in a certain manner and was trained to kill. While I don’t agree in any way, shape or form with war and murder, he was indeed a child soldier at the time. The only reason there is any argument against this is that people, instead of making up their minds themselves, believe what Mr. Bush has said and think he’s some sort of mass murdering psycho-bitch. He’s not.
Had the situation been handled accordingly, there was a chance that this child could have been saved. There is a chance he could have become a positively contributing member of our society, and could have atoned for the wrongs he was brainwashed into doing.
Instead this, the poor child was imprisoned, interrogated and tortured. If you condone this upon anyone, man or child, then you are no better then the terrorist you are so firmly entrenched upon fighting and stopping. Just because they do it, it doesn’t mean it is right for us to do it to them. This “eye for an eye” concept is an extremely primitive one, and one I had hoped we had grown past. Obviously, I am more then wrong.
It is unfortunate that now this young mans life has been ruined to the point that he most probably will never be well adjusted. He will forever hate us for what we have done to him. It does not matter whether he is Canadian or not, condoning this suffering upon him (or anyone!) is inherently evil.
It’s obvious that Mr. Good has been insulted slandered within both the article presented and the comments posted. Mr. Good’s blog, at the very least, includes constructive posts, as oppose to the unintelligent, destructive post written here.
Mr Good’s blog provided a handy link to the PM’s office.
I used to suggest that boy Omar be handed back to the Afghan Government.
According to Geneva since Omar was not wearing a uniform the US would have been justified in executing him in the field.
Too little too late, Angela and Bobby.
I think it was Matthew Good who originally said about this site, “Well, if you’re a Conservative mouthpiece from rural Saskatchewan that [sic] adorns their [sic] blog with the picture of a deal [sic] animal, it makes us noble allies in a xenophobic war against a religion of evil. If you’re a rational and compassionate human being that [sic] has the ability to view the complexities and personal history of Khadr’s situation, one that [sic] isn’t some back woods [sic] xenophobe and has grown up in a highly diverse multicultural area, it makes you sick to your stomach.”
Gee, I’m not from Saskatchewan and I grew up in “a highly diverse multicultural area”, but I’m with—not following, but with—Kate on this.
Bobby: “If nothing else, as adults, can we not harbour [sic] an open dialogue and accept people’s opinions for what they are? [Some opinions are ignorant and indefensible and need challenging, Bobby. Yup, I accept such opinions for what they are—and disagree.] This entry and it’s [sic] comments is [sic] exactly the sort of exchange I’d expect from the sorts [?] that [sic] begin and encourage the conflicts overseas that affect us all.” Whew, for a person who infers he’s the irenic sort, these are fighting words!
Notice, too, the large number of [sic]s in the prose of Matthew and his defenders, which indicate, at the least, an error in grammar—and this from the non xenophobic, more advanced (apparently) multiculturalists!
Perhaps some people need to practise what they preach.
Kate: your “Self described blogging behemoth Matt Good” link has extra double quotes at the end.
It’s a good read. In it Matt Good sez
a) his blog has been “highlighted by The Guardian,” about which any sensible person would keep quiet.
b) he “received dozens of interview requests, with the Globe & Mail” (!) and similarly seems to think it some kind of feather in the cap.
Anyway, enough of that. The rest is so deep-end loony-left it would make Robert Fisk blush.
Maximilien Schirm Khadr is not a victim, he went to Afghanistan to fight for Allah. He fought for the Taliban, his mission to spread Wahhabi Islam by using violence. The Taliban raped women and then told them if they didn’t become suicide bombers they’d be stoned to death because they were immoral. The Taliban sell little boys to grown men to take into battle as sex slaves. The Taliban condones selling young girls for profit (not the prophet Allah) as young as six to smelly vile men and they call it a MARRAGE. I could list a hundred things the Taliban stood and stand for, he fought and used violence to spread Wahhabi Islam against moderate Afghani Muslims. His ideology was forced on the people of Afghanistan by using violence and death. He is not a victim, he’s a vile evil 21 year old adult. The moment he landed on Afghanistan’s soil he became an enemy combatant. He isn’t entitled to any rights period, when he decided to fight with our enemy he made his choice. He may be legally Canadian but he’s using his citizenship as a propaganda tool for pity. I do not pity him, Canada needs to enact legislation that clearly defines that individuals such as Khadr are no longer entitled to Canadian Citizenship once they land of foreign soil to fight for what ever cause. He’s a traitor, period.
He has no legal rights as a enemy combatant that I’m aware of.
9,336,052.
Angela, poor Angela “…Matt Good is entitled to his opinion as are you to yours but ensure they are well informed before post something about the guy you are trying to insult.” Its opinion. there is no requirement to be informed to have one. If there was the left would have nothing to say.
MG is entitled to his opinions, certainly, as is Kate, and the readers of both blogs. Not written anywhere (except perhaps on the back of HRC toilet paper in the ‘loo) that anybody has to agree with either.
I think this number has gone right over the heads of the Good buddies. Hardly counts as “an inconsequential” blog.
Martini, you are way late for the party if you want to discuss constitutional banalities on SDA. There already have been many a long, earnest and very intellectual discussions of that and many other topics here.
MG needs to get out of Dodge for awhile. He needs to go to where 15 year old “child” soldiers will shoot him for his watch and not even thank him for it (and I mean further than Toronto). These are children in age only. Life is about consequences. Some consequences are not very nice. Choose your life…
Nethew GOOD got order of Canada and he removed his comments about SDA it means we must give so many order of canda in future not made all them yet
with all tho respect if some thing about Muslim said are those freindly one day upset remove that too OH Never
but good we can ask Firefighter to go home because young Khadr is watching also
at least MG got my point fast
every body like admire not put down taht is so obvious
when some one is down do not put him under water take his hand and bring him out of those dirt Khadr is now
if god can forgive human we can do too but
in case of khadr not so fast by step by step tehy can free him too no evidenc proof he did kill anybody he was only was there
horra canadian young kid Khadr is finaly find not guilty of murder by view of public and order of Canada not the court of UShe just took picture of those murder the end…..
if the all court was so quick as all public can open each case we never need wait for 6 years so far
NEW INFORMATION! (To some)
There is precedent in Canadian history on what should become of Khadr.
In 1938, Canadian-born Inouye Kanao, of Japanese parents, left his home in Kamloops and went to Japan to join the Japanese army. He was about 19-20. He supposedly wanted to be a part of the new Japanese world order. He reached the rank of Sergeant in the Imperial army, and was mainly responsible for interrogation of English-speaking prisoners in POW camps. He claimed to be part of the Japanese secret police, equivalent to the Gestapo. He took special joy in torturing Canadians (because he had been called names and treated meanly while growing up in Kamloops). For that, he became known as the ‘Kamloops Kid’.
At the end of the war he was charged with war crimes and crimes against humanity. One of his Camp Commanders was also charged, and received a 20 year sentence. Kanao was also found guilty, but just before sentencing, his lawyer announced to the Judge and Prosecutor something like ‘you can’t charge him with war crimes, he’s a Canadian! It would be bad for our national image’. The judge asked the Prosecutor his opinion on the matter, who agreed! The Prosecutor then changed the charge to high treason. Following a new, short trial, based on previously presented evidence, Kanao was found guilty of treason, and executed three days later.
So let the Americans prosecute Khadr. Find him guilty (or not). Then bring him back to Canada and charge him with treason. There is no ‘double jeopardy’, as Khadr cannot be charged with treason against the USA. However, under NATO guidelines, ‘an attack on one is an attack on all’, so therefore his killing of a NATO soldier in combat is equivalent to killing a Canadian soldier.
Alternatively, since the crime was committed in Afghanistan. I wouldn’t mind seeing him sent to Afghanistan to face justice there.
The Kamloops Kid is mentioned a number of times by former Canadian POW’s in Dan Dancocks excellent “In Enemy Hands.”
you should send him afganstina long time ago when he was 15 and right away theywill release him within a 6 month
now he is 21 with today situatin in afganstn after 6 years in jail you already did the justice done then by send him they may kill him as a adult plus if they hold htem 6 years they can bring trail there and tehy do not bring trial they know with evidenc he will may force to set him free nado not to do so that is whey they keep him long there
like when they try to bring Sadam hosain in justice arba kill his lawyer while he could have a lawyer any way I mean Iraq and Afgantan are stil are barbarin countrie wit not real law as you can see this body is product of Afganstani parents and or may product of some Canadian hate crime who hate every body else by so deep to their heart
I thought this guy was successful. Wiki sure has a lot of fluff about him. But that’s Wiki.
Anyway, his tripe espouses standard banalities of the left. “Hate America” – “save Darfur”. “I’m anti-war” And of course the “Child Soldier” comedy routine.
How about “hate communist China” – “save Tibet”
“I’m anti-ideology” or a real comedy video – “Afgan women soldiers”(watch the snuff video)
Mindless.
I know what habeas corpus is. Apparently it applies to the detainees. Let’s not get into the Geneva Convention because that is no less contentious.
No, I’m afraid you don’t know much about the evolution of habeas corpus in English Common Law and why it would be ludicrous to apply to the military. It never has been before. Secondly, it doesn’t matter if the non-application of the GC to Khadr is contentious or not(by whom?) when none of the world’s signatories want it changed to include stateless un-uniformed civilian killing terrorists.
I’ve done my best to have a dialogue with you and you still repeat the same undigested canned lefty MSM mantra phrases even when they’ve been refuted factually. Where’s the curiosity on your part, where’s the fact finding on your part, and seeking out original sources?
I doubt you even knew or cared about the scope of Khadr’s charges when you showed up here. You certainly can’t grasp the complexity of war. You keep repeating about Khadr’s unprotected rights when he quite frankly doesn’t have any in his circumstances and it has been repeated that he will be tried by the military on October.
You do get to pick and choose what topics will be discussed “because they are contentious” either. It’s rather the point of a sincere dialogue.
I’m really done with this topic with you and I doubt that our encounter will change any of your attitudes. The path to truth isn’t found by sitting in an echo chamber where ideas are never challenged.
Why don’t these fools just start paying Jizra right now. I have never seen so many naive blinded mice in my life. That blog should be called “Dhimmi’s for Killers”. The ignorance of this case posted by these debutants of loony Ville was stunning. I wondered if I had by accident ended up in the kind of blog that loves Karla Holmoka or Clifford Olsen fans. There delicate flowers , I just can’t wait till the real world hits them smack in the face with a dose of authenticity.
I wonder how many of these wrote to nuts like these serial killers, of undying love?
All I can say Kate is am I proud I post here with the mentally able instead of a blog where they are collective pansies with the same IQ. Its a huge compliment to you. One even wrote the OPP than whatever they call there masters in Ontario in that college of clowns parliament they have. Man that’s praise & then some.
Any way I learnt not a thing at that blog, but how much they all hurt for a little monster who threw a grenade & killed those sent to help him. No matter what age, you kill after a battle you get shot . That no trooper did is astounding in its compassion.
I guess they didn’t get the hands picture. Someone should send old Matt (middle initial R, for self Righteous) Good one. These are the same sensitive screw balls that allow killers & pederasts on our streets. The have made this Country a jail for the average Canadian by releasing our own law breakers en mass. No matter the crime nor its heinousness. They have become living prey who morn for the wolf. Than slander the sheep. News flash to them, almost nobody in Canada agrees with you. But than that’s why you need HRC’s.
It used to be a free country so they can say what they want, thanks to them for how long though?
Boumediene v. Bush [2008]
So Matt Good realized he was in over his head and headed for cover. I guess grown ups pose more of a challenge than teens and university students.
Can one of Good’s visiting tykes tell us if Matt is a Troofer? That would be delicious if he is.
Good catch, M. Matt. He who slimes and runs away lives to slime another day.
Hell of an argument Matty Good’s got there if it can’t stand up to a few ignorant hicks from the sticks.
Kate good, Good bad.
Wow, toss a few barbs at a wannabe rock star, and moonbats come crawling out of nowhere.
As a former soldier, coming from a military family, who’s brothers, uncles and grandfather have all been in combat, let me offer this.
Osama lite was fighting with a foreign terror organization, on Afghanistan soil against the Northern Alliance, supported by American Rangers and air power.
This POS(I joined the army at 17, and I was fully AWARE of what I was doing)was fighting Afhgani citizens backed up by American power.
Do any of you f#$%ing idiots not remember the Northern Alliance?
The taliban and alqaida were not Afghani citizens!
This punk is a criminal, and the Afghani’s should be allowed to execute him!
Period!!!
End of story!!!
Matthew Good has left the stage.
Who threw the shoe this time?
It does not seems to me Metehw Good is idiot but smart act by deleting since he said wast the time
he does not know SDA may he never knew he refering to woman and when he noticed he jsut scare of woman by having recent ugly divorce i do know as one above comments said
this true to fight for something not need to fight it
if Methew feel fear talk or argue with woman for his right also is not good too most problmes of divorce in ccanad men are not communite with woman just try to prene they are fine untill they blow up and sign the divorce papers
woman in Cnada also very act agreesive while answer to some people may can first to know why the person wrote about you may not know you or may make the mistke and if he did made mistake he delete while if you ask Kathy Sheidle never do that is why she never let any body tlak she only talk by herself in mirror I was wonder how come he become number 10 blogs
result: Kate is won 174 comments for her side and Methew are lost with 40 comments in his site
in manner Methew are won
and Kate need to cool down a bit he should not be a so bad man
Methew if he continue song may be better than stay in politic since in politic you must fight the fighter not just give it off and delet it so soon some times but again he said he does not want to wast his time
Is always woman are winner and men are looser? In Candian Englsih culture poor English men can not handel their own woman and men scape door is divorce paper I feel sorry for Methew and wish him better wife for his future
if he can change to Islam he may have better chance, good luck to his career any way.
Hey go easy on Becki. Matt made love to her when absolutely no else would. I guess she feels a debt.
I must admit- I’ve rarely seen such specious nonsense as this, written by P. Martini:
“Defendants are a minority in Western. That’s why they have constitutionally-guaranteed rights.”
I presume he means ‘the West’ or ‘Western societies’. But – defendants are a minority?? Since when? Does this mean that when you are accused of a crime, you move into a separate status, called ‘minority’? And when you are no a defendant..then, you aren’t a member of a minority? What if you are the victim of this crime? Isn’t that a minority also?
What does ‘minority’ mean to Mr. Martini?
Then, he continues:
“Fundamental rights are not there to protect the majority which can protect itself by voting in a democratic system.”
Again, I’m stunned. The majority of the population have no protection via fundamental rights. None. The only way they can ‘protect’ themselves is by voting. Whenever a vote is called. So, the behaviour of the majority aren’t protected by their having freedom of speech, freedom of association, freedom of religion, the right of equality, etc. Heck. The majority aren’t equal to the minority..not to Mr. Martini.
” The fundamental rights are there to protect the minorities, like defendants, like Khadr.”
Unbelievable. I’ve never, ever, heard of such an ‘interpretation’ of a constitution – that it doesn’t apply equally to all. Only to minorities. So, you can’t access these fundamental rights unless and until you are a minority. You can’t speak freely if you are a member of the majority group; you have to wait until you are accused of a crime…then…you have freedom of speech. Whew. Who’d a thunk it?
And Mr. Martini continues:
“The rationalization for not allowing majorities to take away those rights is that history shows that minorities become majorities.”
Another stunning conclusion. So, the accused criminal becomes, eventually, a majority in the society. Hmm. Eventually an accused terrorist will become the majority in a society. Incredible.
I have to admit – to being absolutely stunned by the ‘logic’ of this pronouncement.
And the Geneva Convention doesn’t apply to non-military combatants in a war. Habeas corpus doesn’t apply to the military.
Good’s traffic is not bad at all.
He ranked #2 on this list:
http://rjjago.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/canadas-top-25-political-blogs-may/
The list uses google page rank and alexa traffic rank.
I happen to like this site, but Good did come out on top, SDA was #4.
P. Martini said some thing not seems too wrong in that regard but some word are confusing;
he said majority in population go by vote for example all memeber and PM then majority can vote and finaly get the idea but minirity can not come anc change majority of law in Canada
in some cases constitution and human right review some cases to see whetehr this case is result of consider him as minirity and not manage direction of justice for ignore him since majority not like to see criminla of war in canada
while crime does not go to minroity or majority
Khader’s defence is to use his miniroty right
age in Muslim nd Canada and all to defende himself
but majority every few years can change what they want by vote and election
not necesary always majoiryt are right in case of miniroty right was brokend and speicaly in some cases
that was my understanding of what Martini try to say
plus so many people do not like to see teenger are knwo and reall rsponsible for his act need to consider it.
who know may P. Martini is Methew Good or one of his freind
I now used to your abusive and ignore you but your abusive scare so many p eople wnat to say any differnt view you need to talk more cool down let other to tlak as well
soem people are smart butnot like to say when facing abusive return back
ET – don’t bother, been there, done that. He/she’s not listening. It’s safer and easier to spew undigested garble swallowed whole from the MSM and peer echo chamber.
All of the Good groupies that visited today, I’ll give credit that they are young, when being a sheeple is safer than an intellectual rebel, spewed the same simplistic “fundamental rights” themes.
None of these young people had more than the slightest knowledgeable about the full scope of Khadr’s charges or his victim. The complexities of war on a society and legal system seemed beyond them too. Hey, even having the humility to get basic facts straight escaped them. They really descended here to defend against any insults to their little rock star’s talent.
I’m glad I was tough on my kids. If they made ridiculous statements they were required to defend them with reason and facts. Any point of view was fine with me but you had better darn well present it with logic and facts.
I couldn’t believe this quote from a letter to the Calgary Herald today.
“I cried when I heard the uncontrollable sobs of a teenage Omar Khadr, begging the Canadian government representatives to “help me, help me.””
she then goes on to spew out two Harper=Bush quotes.
I wonder if she shed any tears for Sgt. Christopher Speer (killed) or Sgt. Layne Morris (wounded)?
Khadr is just like every young offender – he commits the crime then sheds the crocodile tears when the media shows up. He deserves an Oscar for his performance.
Finaly who is Methew Good :
In addition of what Tom said above at 1:44PM
he has used his blog for write poem and song and may used to sing it or may behind the scene still help otehr artis
those group who like to wrote the peom for sing it need to know what public like to hear it
using blog is good tools to link with Canadian view
he most likely is link with PM as well and some politician as well
majority of artist are see the world diffenrtn and may more sensitive in case of seeing cring Khadr while it was sad video too to see teenger cry for help and no mother and fatehr can help any more if we have systme taht police and army can help them and act better than their fatehr it was good to change him but by systems I saw in north america those jail made him more sick to his heart if he back
if the child has bad country bad fatehr bad freinds do we have to say he is guilty for his act I do not think so
how many childrn are dieing daily basaud of all consequences that thos adult around them made for them
how many singer can sing the song to open all world crime to hear it may be you can ask
Methew to write nice song to help wake the world up with no sexy scene on it and he can sell more records to stay in blog businss if he did show some talent
those peopel like Methew was among pubic and like public and can link with them with his blog
did some good job purhaps I do not read his web
I saw something that all member of Harper are should listen to Harper I think becuse he used to be a lawyer most lawyer are so controler and bossy and not let otehr to tlak and put any view to his cabinet
when I read this page Methew link with PM well how I donot know
http://calgarygrit.blogspot.com/2007/02/night-at-oscars.html
The goody-two shoes think that sweet Omar should be released because he was a child that was influenced by his family. But they want him to be released back to his family.Contradictary thoughts again,liberalism is a mental disorder.
I’m sure if Omar was available, he’d give Mr. Good a thumbs-up. Or, rather, two thumbs-up after he’d cut off Mr. Good’s infidel hands.
“Fundamental rights are not there to protect the majority which can protect itself by voting in a democratic system. The fundamental rights are there to protect the minorities, like defendants, like Khadr.”
Wrong. Fundamental, or more correctly INDIVIDUAL rights, are there to protect everyone. Minorities don’t have rights specific to themselves — they have the same rights as everyone else. Anything else would be unjust.
I read this persons blog, then used the email link to the PM to tell the PM to keep up the good work!! Also wished him and his well and all the best!
Don’t imagine that was quite what this Blogger intended!
The irony is that P. Martini’s ridiculous and erroneous understanding of rights—majorities don’t have them—and nv53’s logical statement, “Minorities don’t have rights specific to themselves — they have the same rights as everyone else. Anything else would be unjust” happen, in this Dystopian Dominion to pretty well mirror the actual and very serious misuses being made in the (mis)interpretation of the Charter by activist judges and in our kangaroo court HRCs, where, indeed, majorities have been treated with the utmost lack of due process and fairness.
The difference between the Good posters and Kate’s is threefold:
1) The Good guys appear to approve of this travesty of unfair rulings and lack of due process for productive, law abiding Canadians, but not for a Canadian terrorist, like Khadr, who, in fact, does NOT qualify for the due process provisions of the Geneva Convention.
2) While both groups appear to recognize that minorities are given special status in this country, Kate’s group exposes and condemns this malignant practice, while Good’s followers seem to think it’s A-OK, thus contradicting their apparent allegiance to due process. (Like our judicial overlords, they’re willing to stretch this concept entirely out of shape, in order to fit their ideological agenda.)
3) Kate’s posters are much more knowledgeable about the Charter and its misuses than the Good youngsters—or at least they seem to be, in penny’s words, “young people”. Totally misunderstanding the concept of equality before the law, these mistaken youngsters think conferring special rights on people they think deserve them (“disadvantaged minorities”), while denying those rights and causing serious hardship to people they think don’t deserve them (“powerful majorities”) is just and fine. It’s not, and it has a name: tyranny.
The “we’re ever so nice do gooders” should know that, in fact, it’s tyranny they support, not justice. What a group of deluded hypocrites.
Rose: Well, that would be, if I’m not mistaken, a straw man argument. When it comes to Khadr himself, the point I’m trying to make is that he was fifteen at the time of the killing of the American soldier. Do you REALLY think he understood what he was doing, what the repercussions for his actions were at the age of 15? Do you really believe that he chose to go fight, and it wasn’t his father or family who pressured him into it? Do you not think that maybe, just maybe, he felt like he was defending his country? While this does not justify what he has done, the Americans could have been viewed as the invaders, and the belief planted into his mind by his father could have been one of defense.
I don’t think we should just “let him go”, or should have in the past. At this point in time, he is damaged potentially beyond repair. But at the tender age of fifteen, had he been treated as a child soldier as opposed to what has happened to him, there is a chance he could have ended up leading a somewhat normal life. This is the argument I’m trying to make: That there is is a chance that what you view as murder and terrorism, was justified as something completely different in his eyes.
Instead of merely branding him a terrorist, try and step into his fifteen year old shoes for a second, using only the facts which he would have had at the time.
Maximilien: “Do you REALLY think he understood what he was doing, what the repercussions for his actions were at the age of 15?”
Why the heck shouldn’t he have understood at the age of 15? He wasn’t a baby, was he?
At the age of 15, I sure as heck understood the difference between right and wrong. I sure as heck would have known that I was going in for the kill if I threw a hand grenade at close range ON A BATTLEFIELD. I sure as heck would have understood what I was doing in the company of murderous Al-Quaeda jihadists who’d been training me for months.
What kind of idiot do you think Omar Khadr is? If he didn’t know what he was doing, he must be of substandard intelligence–that is, a retard. I haven’t heard the substandard intelligence defence of him, so I’m assuming that’s a no-starter, even for his cheerleaders.
Khadr totally knew what he was doing, he seemed to take delight in it, he’d been trained to do what he did, he made no move to distance himself from Al-Quaeda or the battlefield, and HE KILLED AN AMERICAN SOLDIER AND WOUNDED ANOTHER.
What more proof does anyone need that Omar Khadr is not an innocent, duped, of substandard intelligence, victim?
Re Mr. Good’s Retreat:
Boo Hoo, Mr. Good. Hoisted on your own petard and you can’t take it. “No need to defend” yourself, eh?
Hahahahahahahahahaha…
Deleting from your Web site the post that drew such “negative attention” (hmmmm…I wonder why?) would seem to be a defence of some kind, of a…cowardly, cover-up-the-evidence…kind.
Next step? Go crying home to Mommy, I guess. Poor little Matthew.
Re Mr. Good’s Retreat:
Boo Hoo, Mr. Good. Hoisted on your own petard and you can’t take it. “No need to defend” yourself, eh?
Hahahahahahahahahaha…
Deleting from your Web site the post that drew such “negative attention” (hmmmm…I wonder why?) would seem to be a defence of some kind, of a…cowardly, cover-up-the-evidence…kind.
Next step? Go crying home to Mommy, I guess. Poor little Matthew.
“He has received notice from the likes of the Canadian Globe and Mail and The Hour, to the UK’s The Guardian.”
Big flippin Woop !!!…Wow, leftist rags honour him..wow!! I’m waiting for the National Enquirer and Paris Hilton to provide more endorsements…
lol
“The only reason there is any argument against this is that people, instead of making up their minds themselves, believe what Mr. Bush has said and think he’s some sort of mass murdering psycho-bitch. He’s not.”
This is exactly why a rational person cannot debate these leftards. This particular example asserts, based on nothing, that anybody that doesn’t agree with him is a mindless robot controlled by Bush.
and then he states this:
“He will forever hate us for what we have done to him. It does not matter whether he is Canadian or not, condoning this suffering upon him (or anyone!) is inherently evil.”
He already hated you because you are a non-Muslim, and in his mind, a crusader at war with Islam. Look up dar al Harb. And then, “condoning this suffering…” what? He most likely murdered the medic in cold blood. He was also shown in a photo gleefully holding severed hands from US soldiers.
That is “inherently evil,” you twisted, leftist moron.
Chris Speers was a medic.
Someone please correct me if I am wrong but it is my understanding that Chris Speers was the first soldier killed in the 2001 Afghanistan War. He was a young American medic reported killed by a Canadian who was a child soldier for Osama Bin Laden. Reports say Chris did not even have his helmet on. Hell of a thing. The Khadr’s should have their Canadian citizenship revoked, imho.
I hope you folks enjoy a sordid victory, because that what you guys got with this.
The Khadr’s should have their Canadian citizenship revoked, imho.
I’m with you Patina!
I don’t give a damn about this traitor. I care about the REAL Canadians who are in Afghanistan representing us – not some bedwetting, wimpering terrorist traitor who enlisted with the enemy to willingly fight Americans and Canadians.
Yes, Khadr is a Canadian citizen, but he was not in Afghanistan representing Canada. He is a traitorous enemy soldier. That is TREASON – he should have his citizenship revoked (unfortunately, the death penalty is no longer an available punishment for treason).
He was captured by American troops; therefore, he is an American prisoner of war. Since he was not in Afghanistan acting on behalf of Canada or Canadians, he does not deserve to be accorded the same rights as other Canadians. He was there representing the enemy, so that is how he should be treated – as a hostile, enemy soldier.
Unlike the Matthew Just OK types, I refuse to open my arms and hug a murderous traitor.
sordid victory? LOL!
Facts will always trump uninformed, warm-fuzzy, wrong-headed (left-headed?) feelings.
sordid victory? LOL!
Facts will always trump uninformed, warm-fuzzy, wrong-headed (left-headed?) feelings.