If you’re wondering why many from the West don’t care much for Toronto, this video exemplifies our reasons…
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I believe the police did the right thing, when the animals take control of the zoo we are in trouble.
It’s not just those in the west that think Terranna is a toilet, perhaps a group tazer would have helped here.
gawd I feel sorry for the Police in Toronto . . .
There are some amazing people in Ontario – the great folks who turn out on the Highway of Heroes for every repatriation drive. Maybe these two officers have been there. Doesn’t matter the weather, they fill every overpass. Good people, real Canadians.
On the other hand, the dim witted yokels pretending to be musicians, who feel they have right to create a public nuisance anytime or place they feel like . . . well there are places for people like them, but it would be big rock needed to find room underneath or a really big pond with lots of scum on top.
Good job officers, I really pity pity you having to put up with such tragically inept versions of humans.
heh heh! In the time it took to watch these smeely hippies, I’ve probably made more money than all of them combined would net in a year. Gotta admire the police officer’s restraint though. I think I’d have cracked some skulls.
I am glad they shut that concert down I have never liked Midnight Oil
The cops should have arrested him faster than they did.
I could never be a cop because I would have leveled a few of them.
How did the NDP Caucus get into the video … I didn’t know they played instruments?
Brent….exactly the reason I turned down jobs with the RCMP and Corrections Canada when I released from the military.
There is no way on earth that I could show patience dealing with leftarded moonbats.
BAM – police flashlight to the side of the dipper’s head.
I was waiting for the mini-crowd to get unruly. Rather childish of the crowd to yell at the cops with their tirade of filth knowing full well that they’d be unchallenged by the cops. That’s grade school behaviour. Where’s a billy bat when you need one. No risk of death like with the Tazer just some lumps that most certainly will be coloured.
Er… first of all, Toronto has a population of something like 2.5 million people, so before you rubes go getting your panties in a knot over a few drunk musicians, and equating the actions of a few to the entire city, you might want to give your tiny heads a shake.
Also… what the hell? As the hipster ‘tards pointed out to the cops, they weren’t the ones blocking traffic. So what exactly was the reason for stopping the performance? Don’t you guys advocate libertarianism – the notion that the law should stay out of our lives as much as possible?
Oh, I forgot… you guys are authoritarians who delude yourselves into the notion that you believe in freedom. Truth be told… freedom scares the shit out of you.
John – you think that a full blown band with amps and no permit to play out in this sort of venue is permissable?
I’d say that’s causing a public disturbance.
“many from the West don’t care much for Toronto”.
Please don’t leave many from Ontario outta da picture.
Hating TO is a national pastime in Ontario; always has been.
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So the “musicians” aren’t our kind of folks. So what? They weren’t bothering anybody by congregating on an already blocked street. The police were creating a problem by blocking traffic for Christ’s sake!
The action of the cops – arresting the guy simply because he asked the inconvenienced motorists to honk their horns was malicious and stupid. If their superior officers don’t come down on them like a ton of sh-t the Trawna PD is in very bad shape.
With gang bangers running wild in part of the city and banks getting held up on a daily basis, these two clowns have nothing better to do than harass some neighbourhood hippies? No wonder they get no respect.
You know what bothers me the most? A couple of the posters on this thread, who I have always respected and thought were conservatives jumped on this in a style that would have warmed the heart of Putin.
Freedom is very convenient when one wants to cause problems for others. Freedom to disrupt the peace. Freedom to cause a disturbance. Freedom to abuse police. Freedom freedom freedom. How convenient.
How about my freedom to walk down a public street without being subjected to this disgrace.
If they want to play their “band” they can rent an auditorium and charge patrons at the door. That way it is freedom to listen and freedom to not.
“John – you think that a full blown band with amps and no permit to play out in this sort of venue is permissable?”
So basically for small gigs like this, you think people should have to obtain a permit? Just so we’re clearly, you must support the notion of more government, because issuing and managing the permit process requires more warm bodies working in gov offices. That means higher taxes.
Don’t get me wrong. If these guys set up after dark I’d be the first one calling the cops. But a buncha people playing music during the day? Lighten up. And those knuckle-headed cops should have pulled up on the sidewalk, or around the corner, and not blocked traffic. That was 100% pure boneheaded behavior.
Good thing they arrested the dude though. He was an easy catch. Far harder to actually go after all the tens of thousands of criminals committing property crimes.
kindergarteners have more tact.
Don’t go getting too full of yourself there Greek. You only have to read the letters to the editor in ANY city in the country (including those in Edmonton and Calgary) to find idiots just like the ones protrayed above. Just that Toronto, Vancouver etc have a greater per capita value.
“…freedom to cause a disturbance…”
What disturbance? Were they playing out of key?
I really did think that only the loony left wants to ban fun, in order to keep things orderly. (City licences for buskers comes to mind.) Lighten up folks.
There is nothing about this that warrants being taped in the first place, let alone make it onto SDA as an example of what’s wrong with Toronto.
I saw the drunks on the street in Winnipeg, Saskatoon and Vancouver, so it’s just a simple case of cities having problems that are caused by – get this – PEOPLE!
Someone must have complained and they must have been breaking some ordinance or other, or the police wouldn’t have been there. They did a good job.
It is scenes like that, that make me miss the old days where when the scum started insulting and shouting the police, the police would simply break a few heads and those rats would scurry back to their parent’s basements.
That is how you can keep law and order for the rest of the decent law abiding citizens.
Those two cops deserve medal for their patience.
Seems we commenters who advocate billy club bashing *upside the head* and the * public distraction* band are all in the wrong, while the Toronto police seemed patient in subduing the main mouthy one.
Why police seem to park to block traffic is often a mystery. I have seen them pull up and park diagonally across traffic lanes from time to time for very minor events. = TG.
Hey John, good libertarian dude that you are, how about the freedom of the people who live in those houses up and down the street to get through the day without that friggin’ NOISE going on, eh?
Wears on the nerves after a while, take it from me. I used to live in one of those crappy houses on a Toronto street.
Bunch of guys want to play instruments on a street corner, sing, chant Hari frickin’ Krishna, no problem. Free country. Bunch of guys want to take over the whole middle of a road construction site and blast -really bad- amplified music through the whole freaking neighborhood? Whole different thing.
TG, its because if the car’s around the corner they can’t get to the shotgun, radio, computer, etc.
Also, what do you think will happen to the cop car if it is out of direct line of site from a cop? They don’t just have to nap the unruly d1ckhead, they have to protect the car too.
Nice job, eh?
Hilarious, an aged Hippy Dippy taking-on-the-Man. Hey, they are artists, mundane ordinances are for the talentless.
When they said “pregnant wife” I thought, wow, that’s a ploy, but, there she was, our Viagra warrior’s pregnant spouse replete in Doc Martin combat boot attire.
Priceless.
We have the same lack of respect for our police out here in Vancouver as they seem to have in Toronto. Why these dear people take this up as a profession in this day and age I simply do not know. As to why they did not move along when politely asked to by police shows their lack of respect and the man they arrested was trying to incite a riot and was also resisting arrest. It had all the earmarks of becoming an unruly free for all in which the police man and woman were professionally attempting to quell and did a good job of it. They did not have a permit and the neighbourhood would have benefited from their nonsense whether they wanted it or not. So they can add disturbing the peace.
If they had set up on our street everyone would have called the police as well.
We have a number of serious problems out here and they are accerbated by lax city politicians and lenient judges. We need to get a handle on that and a first step would be showing some respect for our men and women in uniform policing on our behalf!
What if they gave a party and nobody came?
Seems to be the case here. I’d say the ‘musicians’ (giving them the benefit of the doubt) out numbered the audience by about 20:1.
That alone should have told them they’re both unwanted and unheard in the neighbourhood.
I can’t watch that video and not think of Kathy’s Hard Hat Riots. If that bald on top/hairy on the back dude had come up to my car asking me to honk at the cops, I would have gotten out and kicked him in the stones.
Not much of an excuse, but in our defence I am one of the few Toronto-born Torontonians around. The rest come from all over – give us your stupid, your crazy, your imbecilic masses … that’s our motto!
LMAO. Is that the best you can do against Toronto?
I’ve seen far worse in Winnipeg (natives typically, but they have non-native hangers on), and in Vancouver street people and junkies practically own parts of the downtown core.
Wasn’t Calgary the place where the Neo-Nazi and “anti racism activists” had a little get-togther a few months ago.
This type of inter-regional bashing diminishes us all. I am disappointed with SDA in this instance.
Matt,
You should visit Vancouver some time . . . your “not from here” rejects end up out here as part of the great unwashed leftoid invasion of really, really stupids, crazies, imbeciles and whackjobs.
Custom made for an NDP convention.
Entertainment forced on others, no matter how well intentioned, is not entertainment. I think these two police officers showed remarkable restraint, and were just dying for one of these clowns to give them a reason. Lesser men and women would have started the fists flying at about the one minute mark.
Totally agree with FedUp. If you want to perform publicly like this, then apply for a permit, or wait for a community event.
If these ‘musicians’ were busking for change, I would have given them $20 if they would agree to shut the hell up.
I’ve been in classrooms with kids like the entitled yahoos in this video. I could feel the constricting in the bellies of those cops as they took on the bullies.
In this country, to mix my metaphors, we’re spawning a whole cobra’s nest of entitled yahoos. We’re all going to pay.
These people had no right at all to pollute the airwaves of the hostage population (sleeping–not!–babies, frazzled mothers?) on that street. John, who obviously has no concept of an obligation to others, says no problem: another entitled brat, perhaps.
The police officers showed admirable restraint. But they’ll now have loads of paperwork to fill out and will likely be grilled by their superiors about the incident. If policing is anything like teaching these days, even though an offence was demonstrably carried out, the onus will be on the two officers to justify their actions. (The rubrics should do that for them.) As a professional, doing one’s job with due diligence, being treated this way is altogether humiliating.
That said, it’s going to be harder and harder to find good people willing to teach and police. As I said, we’re all going to pay . . .
The Loser otherwise known as the Lyin’ Jackal would have made the video complete.
Ah well.
“The Loser otherwise known as the Lyin’ Jackal would have made the video complete.”
He’s unavailable. Too busy talking to his fish. Convincing it to vote Liberal I guess.
“…an offence was demonstrably carried out.”
And your evidence for that is …?
When the male officer approached them he clearly said that they were blocking traffic – which they weren’t. Repeated it a couple of times actually, and never said a word about noise, “disturbance” or a complaint having been made. No wonder the hippies got lippy.
To my old eyes, it looked like the police were just bored and/or looking for trouble.
The Greek has got it right — If you’re wondering why many from the West don’t care much for Toronto
Cheers…
John – I support less government. I also wouldn’t have an issue it if were on their property but it appears to be on public property. Most municipalities require permits for such activity.
I’m going out on a limb here and guessing….. that was Lack Layton’s riding …. Right?
Well at least we know where the weak lame and lazy end up in “Eastern Canada”, Brent was spot on I’d of deck them with a left uppercut to the jaw. Stinky smelly hippies clogging a busy street with their version of the “Arts”.
We in the East,the real East Coast can’t stand these fruitloops anymore than the West “Alberta etc” can. I pity the cops can you imagine dealing with this kind of vermin day in and day out, I’d crack after two hours.
Well, Zog, you could be right.
Perhaps when the pregnant lady has her baby, she’ll let her partner–apparently, the arrested man–know that some quiet would be appreciated in order for their baby to sleep.
Just a thought . . .
“So what? They weren’t bothering anybody by congregating on an already blocked street.”
How do you know they weren’t bothering anybody? How do you know that some guy wasn’t trying to get some rest just off the night shift?
Maybe they should play in front of your house and see if they bother anybody.
Yeah, when i lived in Toronto i stopped every day on my way home from work, set up my equipment, got loaded and lipped off to the cops. Couldn’t help myself, i was living in Toronto and my values were all eastern and wacky.
Seriously, that nonsense can be found in any city in Canada. Matter of fact, I remember a drunken, panhandling crowd around a certain beer store in Regina that bothered me more than some mouthy musicians.
Police were way too polite. Should have been more assertive and called another cruiser so they could deal with the other morons. Cops should never have let some of those people get that close to them. Should have told them to back off or get arrested.
Two too nice police officers. Could have been Chicago style with a couple of grateful deadheads.
Gotta agree with Zog and John. A bunch of weirdos playing musical instruments, this does not seem like a crime. Leave ’em alone.
Toronto is a bore. A few people try to liven it up and the police go haywire.
It’s the middle of the day, they are not blocking traffic, but of course the police are blocking traffic with clearly no consideration for the motorists.
The noise from traffic in a city like Toronto is far worse than whatever crap music these people are creating.
The commenters here sound like a bunch of stodgy old senior citizens who want to moan and bitch about everything.
The Toronto Police do a pretty good job, in spite of attacks by various govts… Mao Millier won’t give them funding for a police helicopter; won’t even take one offered from the private sector…”there’s always strings attached” he says. He goes onto say that he prefers more “boots on the streets”, even though he’s a critic (in the past, as mayor he has to be a little more subtle) of police chases… not sure how more “boots on the streets” stops that. As well, in 1992, Bob Rae, as premier of Ontario at the time, initial refused requests by the Toronto Police to have their revolvers replaced with Glocks… that is until it was revealed that Rae’s personal security detail used them. The opposition hammered him, demanding to know why the guns used by his detail wasn’t good enough to protect Toronto’s finest… anyone else remember that? I tried googling it but found nothing.
When I lived in Ottawa there was a protest group called “auto free Ottawa” that regularly blocked roads with their bikes and disrupted traffic, One Saturday morning I was out in my car and I got to one of the blocks, By the time I got to the intersection traffic was backed up for miles. I drove right over their protest and swerved to crush their bikes. Everyone behind followed me. I made the evening news with that one! And this immoral anti social behavior is from a guy who probably clocks up more miles on my bikes than I do in a car.
I really hate hippies, but this is insane! What the hell is wrong with playing their crappy music in a public place in the middle of the day? I somehow suspect the noise didn’t last more than a couple of hours (if that) – do you people complain about the racket caused by ambulance sirens, too? They weren’t exactly causing U2-esque traffic problems … the idea that some a**hole petty bureaucrat is needed to police such activities (presumably in this case by way of Permit) is an affront to freedom.
“Quick, get the police – somebody’s having fun and we didn’t authorize it!”
Hey sf – 35yrs old, hardly geriatric. The boundaries of what is permissible changes when you have amps and enough people to constitute a band – on public property.
… and the video doesn’t show what transpired that the police were notified in the first place. For all we know, the “urban behavior” slobs were blocking the street before the police arrived, or harassing traffic. The Knob they arrested acted as if he would, and could, be willing to block traffic, confront by-standers, and become unruly if anyone asked him/them to quit.
The video, clearly, is missing critical information.
“What disturbance? Were they playing out of key?”
Cops acted calmly, as opposed to the “freedom fighters”. Think they could defeat the Taliban with those repeated shouts of “SHAME, SHAME”?
FYI, chances are pretty good that those cops were doing their job. They were responding to a complaint.
And Maz2, being from Ontario, I second that opinion.
I believe the police did the right thing, when the animals take control of the zoo we are in trouble.
It’s not just those in the west that think Terranna is a toilet, perhaps a group tazer would have helped here.
gawd I feel sorry for the Police in Toronto . . .
There are some amazing people in Ontario – the great folks who turn out on the Highway of Heroes for every repatriation drive. Maybe these two officers have been there. Doesn’t matter the weather, they fill every overpass. Good people, real Canadians.
On the other hand, the dim witted yokels pretending to be musicians, who feel they have right to create a public nuisance anytime or place they feel like . . . well there are places for people like them, but it would be big rock needed to find room underneath or a really big pond with lots of scum on top.
Good job officers, I really pity pity you having to put up with such tragically inept versions of humans.
heh heh! In the time it took to watch these smeely hippies, I’ve probably made more money than all of them combined would net in a year. Gotta admire the police officer’s restraint though. I think I’d have cracked some skulls.
I am glad they shut that concert down I have never liked Midnight Oil
The cops should have arrested him faster than they did.
I could never be a cop because I would have leveled a few of them.
How did the NDP Caucus get into the video … I didn’t know they played instruments?
Brent….exactly the reason I turned down jobs with the RCMP and Corrections Canada when I released from the military.
There is no way on earth that I could show patience dealing with leftarded moonbats.
BAM – police flashlight to the side of the dipper’s head.
I was waiting for the mini-crowd to get unruly. Rather childish of the crowd to yell at the cops with their tirade of filth knowing full well that they’d be unchallenged by the cops. That’s grade school behaviour. Where’s a billy bat when you need one. No risk of death like with the Tazer just some lumps that most certainly will be coloured.
Er… first of all, Toronto has a population of something like 2.5 million people, so before you rubes go getting your panties in a knot over a few drunk musicians, and equating the actions of a few to the entire city, you might want to give your tiny heads a shake.
Also… what the hell? As the hipster ‘tards pointed out to the cops, they weren’t the ones blocking traffic. So what exactly was the reason for stopping the performance? Don’t you guys advocate libertarianism – the notion that the law should stay out of our lives as much as possible?
Oh, I forgot… you guys are authoritarians who delude yourselves into the notion that you believe in freedom. Truth be told… freedom scares the shit out of you.
John – you think that a full blown band with amps and no permit to play out in this sort of venue is permissable?
I’d say that’s causing a public disturbance.
“many from the West don’t care much for Toronto”.
Please don’t leave many from Ontario outta da picture.
Hating TO is a national pastime in Ontario; always has been.
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So the “musicians” aren’t our kind of folks. So what? They weren’t bothering anybody by congregating on an already blocked street. The police were creating a problem by blocking traffic for Christ’s sake!
The action of the cops – arresting the guy simply because he asked the inconvenienced motorists to honk their horns was malicious and stupid. If their superior officers don’t come down on them like a ton of sh-t the Trawna PD is in very bad shape.
With gang bangers running wild in part of the city and banks getting held up on a daily basis, these two clowns have nothing better to do than harass some neighbourhood hippies? No wonder they get no respect.
You know what bothers me the most? A couple of the posters on this thread, who I have always respected and thought were conservatives jumped on this in a style that would have warmed the heart of Putin.
Freedom is very convenient when one wants to cause problems for others. Freedom to disrupt the peace. Freedom to cause a disturbance. Freedom to abuse police. Freedom freedom freedom. How convenient.
How about my freedom to walk down a public street without being subjected to this disgrace.
If they want to play their “band” they can rent an auditorium and charge patrons at the door. That way it is freedom to listen and freedom to not.
“John – you think that a full blown band with amps and no permit to play out in this sort of venue is permissable?”
So basically for small gigs like this, you think people should have to obtain a permit? Just so we’re clearly, you must support the notion of more government, because issuing and managing the permit process requires more warm bodies working in gov offices. That means higher taxes.
Don’t get me wrong. If these guys set up after dark I’d be the first one calling the cops. But a buncha people playing music during the day? Lighten up. And those knuckle-headed cops should have pulled up on the sidewalk, or around the corner, and not blocked traffic. That was 100% pure boneheaded behavior.
Good thing they arrested the dude though. He was an easy catch. Far harder to actually go after all the tens of thousands of criminals committing property crimes.
kindergarteners have more tact.
Don’t go getting too full of yourself there Greek. You only have to read the letters to the editor in ANY city in the country (including those in Edmonton and Calgary) to find idiots just like the ones protrayed above. Just that Toronto, Vancouver etc have a greater per capita value.
“…freedom to cause a disturbance…”
What disturbance? Were they playing out of key?
I really did think that only the loony left wants to ban fun, in order to keep things orderly. (City licences for buskers comes to mind.) Lighten up folks.
There is nothing about this that warrants being taped in the first place, let alone make it onto SDA as an example of what’s wrong with Toronto.
I saw the drunks on the street in Winnipeg, Saskatoon and Vancouver, so it’s just a simple case of cities having problems that are caused by – get this – PEOPLE!
Someone must have complained and they must have been breaking some ordinance or other, or the police wouldn’t have been there. They did a good job.
It is scenes like that, that make me miss the old days where when the scum started insulting and shouting the police, the police would simply break a few heads and those rats would scurry back to their parent’s basements.
That is how you can keep law and order for the rest of the decent law abiding citizens.
Those two cops deserve medal for their patience.
Seems we commenters who advocate billy club bashing *upside the head* and the * public distraction* band are all in the wrong, while the Toronto police seemed patient in subduing the main mouthy one.
Why police seem to park to block traffic is often a mystery. I have seen them pull up and park diagonally across traffic lanes from time to time for very minor events. = TG.
Hey John, good libertarian dude that you are, how about the freedom of the people who live in those houses up and down the street to get through the day without that friggin’ NOISE going on, eh?
Wears on the nerves after a while, take it from me. I used to live in one of those crappy houses on a Toronto street.
Bunch of guys want to play instruments on a street corner, sing, chant Hari frickin’ Krishna, no problem. Free country. Bunch of guys want to take over the whole middle of a road construction site and blast -really bad- amplified music through the whole freaking neighborhood? Whole different thing.
TG, its because if the car’s around the corner they can’t get to the shotgun, radio, computer, etc.
Also, what do you think will happen to the cop car if it is out of direct line of site from a cop? They don’t just have to nap the unruly d1ckhead, they have to protect the car too.
Nice job, eh?
Hilarious, an aged Hippy Dippy taking-on-the-Man. Hey, they are artists, mundane ordinances are for the talentless.
When they said “pregnant wife” I thought, wow, that’s a ploy, but, there she was, our Viagra warrior’s pregnant spouse replete in Doc Martin combat boot attire.
Priceless.
We have the same lack of respect for our police out here in Vancouver as they seem to have in Toronto. Why these dear people take this up as a profession in this day and age I simply do not know. As to why they did not move along when politely asked to by police shows their lack of respect and the man they arrested was trying to incite a riot and was also resisting arrest. It had all the earmarks of becoming an unruly free for all in which the police man and woman were professionally attempting to quell and did a good job of it. They did not have a permit and the neighbourhood would have benefited from their nonsense whether they wanted it or not. So they can add disturbing the peace.
If they had set up on our street everyone would have called the police as well.
We have a number of serious problems out here and they are accerbated by lax city politicians and lenient judges. We need to get a handle on that and a first step would be showing some respect for our men and women in uniform policing on our behalf!
What if they gave a party and nobody came?
Seems to be the case here. I’d say the ‘musicians’ (giving them the benefit of the doubt) out numbered the audience by about 20:1.
That alone should have told them they’re both unwanted and unheard in the neighbourhood.
I can’t watch that video and not think of Kathy’s Hard Hat Riots. If that bald on top/hairy on the back dude had come up to my car asking me to honk at the cops, I would have gotten out and kicked him in the stones.
Not much of an excuse, but in our defence I am one of the few Toronto-born Torontonians around. The rest come from all over – give us your stupid, your crazy, your imbecilic masses … that’s our motto!
LMAO. Is that the best you can do against Toronto?
I’ve seen far worse in Winnipeg (natives typically, but they have non-native hangers on), and in Vancouver street people and junkies practically own parts of the downtown core.
Wasn’t Calgary the place where the Neo-Nazi and “anti racism activists” had a little get-togther a few months ago.
This type of inter-regional bashing diminishes us all. I am disappointed with SDA in this instance.
Matt,
You should visit Vancouver some time . . . your “not from here” rejects end up out here as part of the great unwashed leftoid invasion of really, really stupids, crazies, imbeciles and whackjobs.
Custom made for an NDP convention.
Entertainment forced on others, no matter how well intentioned, is not entertainment. I think these two police officers showed remarkable restraint, and were just dying for one of these clowns to give them a reason. Lesser men and women would have started the fists flying at about the one minute mark.
Totally agree with FedUp. If you want to perform publicly like this, then apply for a permit, or wait for a community event.
If these ‘musicians’ were busking for change, I would have given them $20 if they would agree to shut the hell up.
I’ve been in classrooms with kids like the entitled yahoos in this video. I could feel the constricting in the bellies of those cops as they took on the bullies.
In this country, to mix my metaphors, we’re spawning a whole cobra’s nest of entitled yahoos. We’re all going to pay.
These people had no right at all to pollute the airwaves of the hostage population (sleeping–not!–babies, frazzled mothers?) on that street. John, who obviously has no concept of an obligation to others, says no problem: another entitled brat, perhaps.
The police officers showed admirable restraint. But they’ll now have loads of paperwork to fill out and will likely be grilled by their superiors about the incident. If policing is anything like teaching these days, even though an offence was demonstrably carried out, the onus will be on the two officers to justify their actions. (The rubrics should do that for them.) As a professional, doing one’s job with due diligence, being treated this way is altogether humiliating.
That said, it’s going to be harder and harder to find good people willing to teach and police. As I said, we’re all going to pay . . .
The Loser otherwise known as the Lyin’ Jackal would have made the video complete.
Ah well.
“The Loser otherwise known as the Lyin’ Jackal would have made the video complete.”
He’s unavailable. Too busy talking to his fish. Convincing it to vote Liberal I guess.
“…an offence was demonstrably carried out.”
And your evidence for that is …?
When the male officer approached them he clearly said that they were blocking traffic – which they weren’t. Repeated it a couple of times actually, and never said a word about noise, “disturbance” or a complaint having been made. No wonder the hippies got lippy.
To my old eyes, it looked like the police were just bored and/or looking for trouble.
The Greek has got it right — If you’re wondering why many from the West don’t care much for Toronto
Cheers…
John – I support less government. I also wouldn’t have an issue it if were on their property but it appears to be on public property. Most municipalities require permits for such activity.
I’m going out on a limb here and guessing….. that was Lack Layton’s riding …. Right?
Well at least we know where the weak lame and lazy end up in “Eastern Canada”, Brent was spot on I’d of deck them with a left uppercut to the jaw. Stinky smelly hippies clogging a busy street with their version of the “Arts”.
We in the East,the real East Coast can’t stand these fruitloops anymore than the West “Alberta etc” can. I pity the cops can you imagine dealing with this kind of vermin day in and day out, I’d crack after two hours.
Well, Zog, you could be right.
Perhaps when the pregnant lady has her baby, she’ll let her partner–apparently, the arrested man–know that some quiet would be appreciated in order for their baby to sleep.
Just a thought . . .
“So what? They weren’t bothering anybody by congregating on an already blocked street.”
How do you know they weren’t bothering anybody? How do you know that some guy wasn’t trying to get some rest just off the night shift?
Maybe they should play in front of your house and see if they bother anybody.
Yeah, when i lived in Toronto i stopped every day on my way home from work, set up my equipment, got loaded and lipped off to the cops. Couldn’t help myself, i was living in Toronto and my values were all eastern and wacky.
Seriously, that nonsense can be found in any city in Canada. Matter of fact, I remember a drunken, panhandling crowd around a certain beer store in Regina that bothered me more than some mouthy musicians.
Police were way too polite. Should have been more assertive and called another cruiser so they could deal with the other morons. Cops should never have let some of those people get that close to them. Should have told them to back off or get arrested.
Two too nice police officers. Could have been Chicago style with a couple of grateful deadheads.
Gotta agree with Zog and John. A bunch of weirdos playing musical instruments, this does not seem like a crime. Leave ’em alone.
Toronto is a bore. A few people try to liven it up and the police go haywire.
It’s the middle of the day, they are not blocking traffic, but of course the police are blocking traffic with clearly no consideration for the motorists.
The noise from traffic in a city like Toronto is far worse than whatever crap music these people are creating.
The commenters here sound like a bunch of stodgy old senior citizens who want to moan and bitch about everything.
The Toronto Police do a pretty good job, in spite of attacks by various govts… Mao Millier won’t give them funding for a police helicopter; won’t even take one offered from the private sector…”there’s always strings attached” he says. He goes onto say that he prefers more “boots on the streets”, even though he’s a critic (in the past, as mayor he has to be a little more subtle) of police chases… not sure how more “boots on the streets” stops that. As well, in 1992, Bob Rae, as premier of Ontario at the time, initial refused requests by the Toronto Police to have their revolvers replaced with Glocks… that is until it was revealed that Rae’s personal security detail used them. The opposition hammered him, demanding to know why the guns used by his detail wasn’t good enough to protect Toronto’s finest… anyone else remember that? I tried googling it but found nothing.
When I lived in Ottawa there was a protest group called “auto free Ottawa” that regularly blocked roads with their bikes and disrupted traffic, One Saturday morning I was out in my car and I got to one of the blocks, By the time I got to the intersection traffic was backed up for miles. I drove right over their protest and swerved to crush their bikes. Everyone behind followed me. I made the evening news with that one! And this immoral anti social behavior is from a guy who probably clocks up more miles on my bikes than I do in a car.
I really hate hippies, but this is insane! What the hell is wrong with playing their crappy music in a public place in the middle of the day? I somehow suspect the noise didn’t last more than a couple of hours (if that) – do you people complain about the racket caused by ambulance sirens, too? They weren’t exactly causing U2-esque traffic problems … the idea that some a**hole petty bureaucrat is needed to police such activities (presumably in this case by way of Permit) is an affront to freedom.
“Quick, get the police – somebody’s having fun and we didn’t authorize it!”
Hey sf – 35yrs old, hardly geriatric. The boundaries of what is permissible changes when you have amps and enough people to constitute a band – on public property.
… and the video doesn’t show what transpired that the police were notified in the first place. For all we know, the “urban behavior” slobs were blocking the street before the police arrived, or harassing traffic. The Knob they arrested acted as if he would, and could, be willing to block traffic, confront by-standers, and become unruly if anyone asked him/them to quit.
The video, clearly, is missing critical information.
“What disturbance? Were they playing out of key?”
Cops acted calmly, as opposed to the “freedom fighters”. Think they could defeat the Taliban with those repeated shouts of “SHAME, SHAME”?
FYI, chances are pretty good that those cops were doing their job. They were responding to a complaint.
And Maz2, being from Ontario, I second that opinion.