Update 2 – Darcey is hosting Fitna on his own server, and Flea is providing torrent links.
“If you quote the Koran. If you do so in the name of freedom of speech. You will be threatened with death. The press will collude with the enemy.”
When I can figure out how to set it up, I’ll host another here.
Statement from Liveleak on the removal of Fitna
Because “multiculturalism” means “more pavilions at Folkfest”…
In anticipation of this, a number of sources have already saved and rehosted the film, so it won’t be hard to find.
Background info.
Because they just can’t help themselves. – Addressing the European parliament, the Grand Mufti of Syria told his audience that “If there is unrest, bloodshed and violence after the broadcast of the Koran film, Wilders will be responsible.”
A million views at Liveleak already (and nearly two million of the Dutch version) and they’ve issued a statement. Via Hotair – “They’re obviously willing to go to the mat to keep this online.”
Michael van der Galien chronicles the astonishing efforts to stop the film from being seen in the Netherlands. “I disagree with your opinion that Islam is violent, but I will fight to the death to prevent you from inciting them”. Or something like that.
Thanks so much for posting this Kate.
Also posted at Hotair.com, Jihadwatch.org and LGF.
Bloggers – Doing the work the MSM won’t dare do!
more proof that islam is truly evil
Will Muslims now riot / seethe over their own words?
Sounder, only where told to do so by their repressive, tyrannical governments. You really think they have spontaneous demonstrations in Iran? Syria?
Doubt it, eh?
Very powerful. The leftards that denouce the obvious are no different than those that denounces the concern leveled at the Nazi’s before all hell broke loose in the thirties. Common sense has to rise to the top here people and we must place pressure on the governments of the day to keep these radical Imams out of this country and expell and take away citizenship of any muslim that espouses this hatred. No questions, no appeals, ship them to Iran or some uninhabited island in the middle of the pacific. If they hate us and our way of life then ship them out, cause I’m not converting. If anyone even jokingly talks about Jihad, your gone, just like at the airport if you joke about a bomb or the like. We have to adopt a zero tolerance for this stink.
Just one more thing, I think that we may have to develop a stomach for carpet bombing and if innocents get hurt or killed thats too bad. If they didn’t like what these moron are doing then stand up to them, either you are with us or against us. A little harsh maybe but tough love is harsh.
Over one million views when I played it. How many by tomorrow?
Will Harper and the CPC take heed?
Seriously doubt it.
The Toronto Terrorists will be found innocent and victims of a Christian society.A group hug for all.
This video shows many of the reasons why I make donations to PizzaIDF.org.
Thank you Kate!
Well, your turn in the star chamber is sure to come now.
Democracies have historically paid a very high price for being slow to awaken to the fact that tyrants of all stripes mean what they say, unpalatable as their statements may be.
With tears in my eyes, I say “Thank you, Kate”. I Pray it will be played and replayed around the world continuously. I see mention of it screening across Fox News so hope Beck and Hannity air it.
It is possible that 1215 knows what he is talking about (although I doubt it), but he should be aware that there is a large number of Christians who know exactly what is going on. And Harper, you can be sure, is one of them.
If the Liberals get in in Canada and Obama in the U.S., God help us all.
Excellent short film. It should be very interesting to see what transpires over the next few days. I wonder if it will help convince more people that these dudes are nuts. Not holding my breath over that one…
Please, Kate. Please keep at least the link on your main Webpage. Please, for the sake of freedom. Please, for the sake of Canada. Please, for you and us — and me. Please.
If only it was an exaggeration!
Bravo!
Now watch the movie “Obsession”.
Propaganda worth of Goebbels. Juxtapose bad English translations from the Quran, taken completely out of context, with images of terrorism. Accompany with tragic classical music and quotes from radical nutjobs (and who knows how accurate those translations were). Reminded me immediately of Nazi propaganda or a Michael Moore movie. Surprised there weren’t images of Arabs intercut with rats.
The movie starts with a bad translation of Sura 8 Verse 60. The Quran is written in Arabic of course, and there are many bad English translations out there.
Here’s a better translation:
[8:60] You shall prepare for them all the power you can muster, and all the equipment you can mobilize, that you may frighten the enemies of GOD, your enemies, as well as others who are not known to you; GOD knows them. Whatever you spend in the cause of GOD will be repaid to you generously, without the least injustice.
and the next sentence:
[8:61] If they resort to peace, so shall you, and put your trust in GOD. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient
But so what? Doesn’t mean anything unless you know what the whole chapter (sura) is about. I would recommend reading the whole thing if a particular sentence worries you.
It never ceases to amaze me how radical jihadis and Muslim haters use this same method to justify themselves.
Ah. Just did a post, myself, on that after getting an email tip.
Explosive stuff.
Inconvenient truth.
OH, and more background on the film, FYI:
http://europenews.dk/en/node/8787
Belisarius, you mistranslated 8:61 yourself. Where you claim it says “peace” it means “submission to Allah”. Look, these people actually mean what they say.
I’d read it all too, if I was certain I wouldn’t puke on my keyboard.
There seems to be a shortage of “good” translations… and all the spin that would imply.
Oh Belisarius, you turncoat – you once worked for the good guys a few centuries ago.
“Bad Translations of the Quran”?.
Can you suggest a *good* translation of the Koran? Iwill read and quote from it.
You employ the standard muslim response – “When we say kill the infidel, that’s only stories children. What we really mean is “love” the infidel”.
Of course, muslims insist the Koran must be read in its “original” arabic which no one understands, except a few arab scholars. When, for example, were all the little dots and apostrophes added, that change the meaning so much – a couple of hundred years later?
Your “religion” is a fraud. It is a totalitarian ideologogy created by teh followers of a psychopath and should be treated as a malady.
Belisarius said:
“Juxtapose bad English translations from the Quran, taken completely out of context, with images of terrorism. Accompany with tragic classical music and quotes from radical nut jobs (and who knows how accurate those translations were).”
Do you not see the irony in your own statement? I also notice you did not directly address the small fraction of freely available ‘religion of peace’ terror images in the film. Geez Belisarius, you really are a shiftless apologist.
As for the film, nice imagery to remind us that until the barbarity of Islam is confronted and exorcised, there will never be peace on earth.
I was stunned to read this sentence in the Wikipedia entry:
“Many Dutch people have posted films on YouTube prior to the release of the film apologizing[citation needed] in advance on behalf of the residents of the Netherlands for any offense which the film causes.”
How can anyone be so naive? There’s not hope for the Netherlands.
The Islamic terrorist gang in Toronto was quoted in the Globe & Mail:
“God willing if we don’t get a victory, God willing our kids will get it. If not them, then five generations down somebody will get it …”
The Byzantine empire was slowly beaten back by Mohammedans until it consisted only of its capital city, Constantinople, and a small patch of farmland. This was the center of the Orthodox Christian church. The city was under siege for at least 300 years. Eventually the Byzantines went broke, bankrupt, the Roman pope intervened to prevent any European military aid, a European sold cannon technology to the muslim Ottomans besieging the city, and was the end of the Byzantines, in the year 1453. It was the first time in history a city under siege was brought down by cannons destroying its walls. The Islamic army fought their way into the city and proceeded to torture and kill everyone left alive inside. It took the Islamists centuries but they got to where they wanted to be.
There’s lots more interesting history to read. Massive Islamic armies were stopped “at the gates of Vienna” and stopped south of Paris after coming up through Spain. This is all horrifying history, the bloodshed and sacrifice and suffering was epic, staggering.
It is a different world today, but not as much as you would like to think.
Belisarius
Planes crashing into the twin towers, Pearle being beheaded, a woman’s lopped off head on the ground, signs (in English) calling for an end to democracy and freedom – actual news footage. REALITY!
Some of it is footage shot by the Islamo-terrorists themselves. You call it propoganda. Well most of it is their own propoganda shot by their own cameramen. And you want to give us your kneejerk comments about bad translation. You call people “Muslim haters.” The only thing I’ve seen is “Jew haters and Freedom haters.” You are disgusting for defending this savagery.
Civilizations do not fall simply because the barbarians are at the gates. They fall because people inside open those gates and let them in.
If you want to leave Geert a comment, you can do so here.
abcd @7.53
“stopped before Vienna” – on 11th September, no less.
There is no defense of the behaviour displayed by the people in this film and of Islam. I would suggest you leftards open your frickin eyes and look.
What can we possibly do? Really, what can we do to stop this freight train?
As for Belisarius, I don’t know what your problem is, unless you’re Muslim. I have Christian Arabic friends, who’ve been desperate for us to listen to their warnings since years before 9/11, that Muslims are dangerous and must be stopped.
Ed.. just to clarify. That was Eugene Armstrong being beheaded in that clip…
Kate: you’re really becoming a bore, are you aware of that? Would you play a filmed depiction of the Book of Judgment on your site? Of course you would not…
You would show a film of American or coalition bombs finding their targets and the brown bodies blown apart? Of course not. Why, Kate?
I just think, after seeing your act here, you are some kind of a coward. Isn’t this cowardice to put up this material, designed to provoke maximum disturbance, but to remain hidden yourself. You’re not even the messenger, Kate. Not even the mailman. You’re a pornographer, Kate. Would your mother and father be proud of what you’re doing with your life?
johnny daly~ those ‘brown bodies’ are usually terrorists who would kill you without the slightest hesitation.
YOU are the bore.
Leave us, Moron.
Belisarius, would you care to put the ‘kill the infidels’ part of the movie into context for us?
Please do NOT feed the two-bit link whore, John Daly. He posts here hoping that someone, anyone, will go to his silly blogg. He does not get any traffic at his risible excuse for a blogg unless he leaves stupid, childish, asinine, comments on real bloggs.
The religon of peace just hates to see the truth about themselves. Yes they will be boinging in the air with their fists as the have nothing to do and no place to do it in. Its a very good film.
Anyone read some of the Nostradamus interpretations and the Islamic war we should be in right now. Knowing the future can change the future even if it is only an interpretation of a prophet. History is full of prophets, oracles and seers and those who failed to listen. Caesar and the King of Troy for example. How appropriate March 15 just passed.
I wonder what part of the Arabic Koran the little girl got wrong when she referred to Jews as apes and pigs..
Hey John Daly, you forgot to tell Kate that she needs to get laid in your latest rant.. you’re slipping boy!
“Would you play a filmed depiction of the Book of Judgment on your site? Of course you would not…”
Daly. Is it possible for you to think before you post? So are you suggesting that those who believe in “The Book of Judgment” are wreaking havoc around the world -as are Muslims. And if they are not-and they are not, you fool, – why the effing stupid attemped equivalence?
Well, John Daly, it’s really hard to find current on-film examples to to accompany the Book of Judgements, isn’t it? And it’s downright impossible to find Christians blustering on about global domination and violence and the necessity of murder to uphold the faith, isn’t it John? Wouldn’t you agree?
Save yourself the fake outrage. It’s comes across every bit as self-righteous and weak as you knew it was when you typed it out.
You know, there were a lot of your ilk around 73 years ago, and I’m sure there’ll be more in the years to come. That’s just the way it goes when when sanctimony combines with the privilege of peace to create ignorance.
It’s a film, John, made by a Dutch fellow whose life is in danger, and whose compatriots have been murdered for the crime of noticing what’s being preached in Dutch mosques. What’s cowardly about that? What’s cowardly about others showing it?
What’s your definition of a coward, John?
Thank you Mr. Gain, well said. I was going to respond a while ago, but I noticed my toe nails were getting long.
Priorities…
Belisarius,please explain the Solamin Rushdie event for me, seeing as you are such an expert!!!!
Thank you Lydia, I really wasn’t sure, because I found it so unpleasant to look at closely.
Appreciate the correction though.
Belisarius>
It’s views and attitudes such as yours that has placed European countries in their advanced stages of this cancer. That same naïve “tolerance” and equally disturbing denial you have expressed is what we in North America should fear as much as the cancer itself.
You are either a very stupid person unable to grasp the enormity of the Islamic problem in the west or an enemy collaborator of this totalitarian ideology. Possibly you do so unwittingly through your ignorance of Islam or do so deliberately through misdirection and deceit following the teachings of the Qur’an.
“Please do NOT feed the two-bit link whore, John Daly. He posts here hoping that someone, anyone, will go to his silly blogg. He does not get any traffic at his risible excuse for a blogg unless he leaves stupid, childish, asinine, comments on real bloggs.”
Sorry terrence, you are wrong. The practice of not feeding the trolls has been practiced – to perfection – by Bush. The result is that the trolls now control the narrative.
The tedious but only road to victory -and it is tedious-is to rebut every stupid comment and lie until they surrender.
um John Daly I believe the correct term is maximum disruption and if you are so incensed and upset by what you see here then go elsewhere. The 8,233,553 comments on this blog suggests that it’s not Kate who is the bore John Daly, it’s the apologists, the leftards, the people like you John Daly who are truly boring. What does it take to wake you people up? Do you agree it’s right and proper to denigrate and murder women? Is it ok by you to behead the people who disagree with your particular point of view? In my world John Daly these things are definitely NOT ok and I know my parents and probably Kate’s would agree. What would your mother say John?
Belisarius: I’m curious, do you not see a problem in Europe with Islam?
The Daly nightmare is here in more ways than one.
Back to your cave Daly, say hello to Osama Bin Shittin’.
Belisarius: I’m curious, do you not see a problem in Europe with Islam?
No. I do however think they have a big problem with radical Islam, funded by Wahhabi oil money. It’s that poison strain of Islam which is the source of modern terrorism. I do not believe that Islam itself or its practitioners are inherently evil. In fact, I count a number of them as friends and served with many in the CF. I suppose this skews my view somewhat.
The movie itself uses deceptive propaganda methodology, which is my principle criticism.
Alright Belisarius, do you not see a problem with extremist muslims, watered down by the left and observed by indifferent or less concerned muslims who will ultimately object or submit to the fanatics?