I note that a few of you are discussing the Mulroney testimony in the reader tips thread. I’m too busy today to follow it, but you can use this thread for links or on topic discussion if you wish.
From the comments;
“Lapierre stated, while on with CTV’s Mike Duffy, that the Liberal MPs on the Ethics Committee were given today’s questions to ask by the CBC.”
If true, this merits an investigation, followed by a housecleaning.
Stephen Taylor now has an official CPC release on the allegation.
Update:
I wish the media were as interested in the HRDC scandal, where more that 1 BILLION dollars couldn’t be accounted for.
LindaL, don’t forge Robert Thibault’s disgraceful conduct. He is the lynchpin in the whole thing, he met ex parte with KHS and some think he is the impetus behind this entire smear campaign.
MSM has completely missed this one with not one question to him about his conduct here. To top it off, he didn’t excuse himself from questions even though he is being sued for defamation by Mulroney, with strong chance of success.
When Thibault even mentions ethics, I want to gag. No problem, I predict this thing will backfire on Grits big time.
Anyway, to Canadians who view Mulroney suspiciously, ask yourself this question: will accusers make their smear outside privilege of HofC? How does that affect their credibility.
Canadians don’t care, fully intend to re-elect Harper and Tories (possibly with majority); that’s what drives Grits crazy. NDP and Bloc motives less clear, though I think they ultimately want to trap Grits. Why aren’t they going after Thibault, though?
It’s too bad a mostly leftist media in this country will protect many many Canadians from
Teddy, said it best, [ teddy at December 13, 2007 2:37 PM ]
[. . . ],** truly seeing how Schreiber used both the media and the opposition parties to keep himself out of German prisons.And,how eagerly they fell for it in a sad attempt to smear the current conservative government.
Schreiber has failed to supply ANYTHING NEW of any substance. Period. **
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Thibault, Martin, and Szabo have to wait until a guy is well into his senior years to take him on. What a bunch of chickenshits. None of them would have the guts to take Mr Mulroney on during his prime. He’d have crushed them like the bugs they are.
Will they do the honourable thing and apologize and step down when they fail to prove a thing?
By the way – while many posters on this board are vehemently anti-CTV, if they had been paying attention to this they might have noticed that Duffy, Paula Todd, and Robert Fife have been very upfront about their disgust about the entire issue since the start. If they were once pre-disposed towards the Liberal party, I think the bloom has come off the rose.
The Libs in CTV are in to be found the producers chair, if the guests/experts they pick are any indication. (not counting Jane Tabor). In fact, Mike Duffy pretty much came out and called Tabor a Liberal mouthpiece a few days ago.
As for CBC, as long as Mansbridge is there, they’ll be solidly Liberal.
LindaL,
Further to your comments,I was to believe the only reason this commitee even exists was due to the supposed bombshell revelations Schreiber promised on the almost literal eve of his deportation after 8 yrs of fighting a losing battle.
Since he has not offered one significant point of any relevant substance,we know the only reason this has not already been closed is it’s possibilities for further muckraking by the opposition.
If some people feel this is so crucial to be examined to death,fine,then I believe we are also obligated to further investigate Chretien and his dubious Shawinigate money dealings.
Then,in another 10 yrs,we can revisit Adscam and the HRDC scandal.
To those leftist footsoldiers who continue to infect this site…
We conservatives acted when we decimated the arrogant Mulroney/Campbell tories.
To the contrary,when the Chretien/Martin liberals were drowning in scandal and corruption,most ethically-challenged liberals tried to vote them right back in.
We conservatives can be proud of our actions.
The Puffin Party,on the other hand and years later,is still trying to hide it’s huge piles of shit by trying to fabricating shit for their opponents.
Pretty pathetic,when you think about it.
Kate, looks like you’re indirectly linked from NNW:
http://www.stephentaylor.ca/archives/000919.html
Link at top of NNW
What did Mulroney say about the the Liberal constructed connection to Harper?
Ringo,
Couple of differences
1) Columnist versus mainline news
2) Public versus privately funded
If Rex Murphy wrote the questions I would be less concerend, he is a columnist on the TV…as in opinion piece….although the subject funding is an issue. If from mainline CBC…over the line.
Oh and please provide a link to where this columnists put forward an article that Stelmach wrote….
Ahh, come on. Not even the CBC and the LPC can be THAT unstintingly stupid…….. Can they?
Whats missed in the CBC coverage/bias is the fact that they’ve been trotting out Harvey Cashore (who co-wrote the book with Agent Stevie Cameron) and Linden Macintyre as regular pundits / casual observers.
After realizing they’ve been duped by Schreiber to stay in the country, these hacks are on the air saying “well…schreiber got what he wanted” not mentioning the fact that their relentless witchhunt facilitated the whole sham for him to stay in the country.
My favorite description of the committee is that they are cowardly jackals nipping at the heels of the aging lion.
Turns out the aging lion is still king of the jungle.
Why can’t Mulroney, as a private citizen, earn a living?
Idiot moonbats.
A far more important question is, with only five years spent in the private sector, how is it that Chretien retired a multi-millionaire? What was the extent of his dealings with Power Corp. while serving as an MP and PM?
And what about Martin’s ownership of CSL? How did that come about when he was an MP on an MP’s salary? And, more importantly, the shady dealings with CSL and legislation concerning that industry, when he was PM?
I truly hope Harper brings the hammer down, as he warned.
Piling on is poor form.
Don’t feed the trolls.
/ back on topic/ Unless there is EVIDENCE to back the claims, this is a farce and should be ended.
CTV has cherry picked the sound bites to make Mulroney look bad. I watched the whole thing and except for a few instances Mulroney wiped the floor with the questioners.
I believe the CBC is in the early stages of ‘death rattle’ insofar as a taxpayer funded propaganda arm of Liberal governments is concerned.
Even to a casual observer of the Schreiber saga, it appears to have been driven by the biased CBC as a hatchet job on Mulroney rather than a balanced investigative piece.
If the Lapierre charge on Duffy’s CTV is factual then CBC has to answer to the Canadian taxpayer as well.
Why are they pushing the Libs on the committtee to bring in the cellular spectrum issue?
It has no bearing on the Schreiber – Mulroney issue – none whatsoever.
Bloody McCarthyism engaged by the Libs and CBC.
If committee members asked questions that were provided by the CBC, I would say its more damning for the people asking the questions than it is for the CBC, after all, it is ultimately up to them to ask the question.
That said, it surely doesn’t make the CBC look good and it speaks to an unhealthy relationship between the broadcaster and those who asked questions on its behalf.
I think the real story here – if it’s true – is the provision of questions by the CBC to the Liberals on the ethics committee, and the Liberals unethically using these same questions.
There should be a full public enquiry into this – did the CBC breach the public trust (i.e., is the accusation true)- and if so, have they done it before (breached the public trust)and for how long? What has been the impact of these CBC actions over time? Who within the CBC was responsible for these breaches of public trust?
Does the Liberal party somehow reward the CBC employees for these favours? (Anyone hear of the senate? GG jobs? Order of Canada?) Why would the CBC want the Liberals back in power? Self answering question.
We need a full enquiry into the CBC. Now.
Stan – my advice when you see discrepencies between full coverage and cherry picked reports is to call the local affiliate, and tell them there’s little point in watching their news casts if you can’t trust them to report the news.
They’re more sensitive to viewer anger than the national desk. They have to sell the advertising.
Hang them … out to dry of course :^)
What would be worse for these Comunist Broadcasters? Firing? Closing down?
I know, I know! Privatise them. Sell the CBC and its assets off to the highest bidders.
“The Friends of The CBC” could of course make a bid to buy it. Imagine, though, those stund and aston ished CBCers coming to terms with NOT TELLING THE COUNTRY WHAT TOP THINK and having to make an honest living fopr once. Hehehe.
On the subject of Mulroney’s performance. I heard it on the radio and he gained respect.
This latest revelation will be buried under the following files:
– Hollandgate
– Dosanjgate
– BDCgate
– HRDCgate
– Aubergegate
– and, my personal favourite – Thibaultgate
Duffy says in video that this Lapierre made a defamatory comment. Is anybody suing Lapierre, or demanding retraction. No, they’ll just ignore it and the good little press minions will let it go, lest they say something “defamatory.”
This is collusion.
Proof positive that the CBC and the Liberal party of Canada are the same political and ideological entity.
Damning evidence.
“Stephen said: “unholy quite frankly for a media outlet and a political party to work together”
I agree! Funny how the conservative SDA refuses to raise the issue of a conservative columnist (Sun Media’s Paul Jackson) writing columns at the behest of Progressive Conservative Premier Ed Stelmach!!
Funny people, you conservatives…”
Ringo;
The Jackson issue is a local story and not likely to be picked-up outside of Alberta. The (local) Conservative response you’re looking for is here: http://no-libs.com/?p=2065
Compared to the disrespectful behaviour of Chretien when he appeared before the Gomery Inquiry, including the mockery he made of Judge Gomery, Brian Mulroney and his family were a Class Act.
Mulroney is our former Prime Minister, far above the likes of Operatives like Schreiber, the Liberals newest hope to smear all Consevatives. They’re the most desperate Opposition Party we’ve ever seen in the history of this Country. It’s gone far beyond the pale or anything resembling reason.
do you mean when Chretien took out and showed his balls.
stunning and in poor taste. small town cheap.
Craig Oliver is now defending the libs and cbc on CTV (repeat broadcast).He has said and I am paraphrasing”if Mulroney did not want to be hounded by KHS and his 2 media allies,he should have come clean the first time”. This implies that Mulroney lied before and the white knights of canadian journalism are doing their altruistic duty . This issue will probably die slowly on the vine. But you can write the cbc ombudsman at http://www.cbc.ca/ombudsman, also it might be interesting to find out the cost of the 5th estate’s witchhunt. Cbc and ctv,’tabloids with a purpose,the unofficial opposition’.
Ctv’s The Verdict is covering today’s inquistion. Fife and Macdonald are the guests.Should be worth watching. Also,remember the ‘bombshell’ when the monies went from 300K to 500K,now that it has gone from 300K to 225K,it is only a squib.
Does anyone know why Mulroney has never sued Wench Stevie Cameron for her terrible castigation of him in her book “On The Take”?
Lock the Ministry of Liberal Poo Hiding down and seize all their phone records, computers, and blackberrys.
Sweat some little $120,000 per, plus superpension, flunky coffee getter, until he spills his socialist guts all over his fav. Che shirt.
How dangerous is our little gulag becoming?
I haven’t read all the blogs on this topic but I wonder what our pal, Warren Kinsella, has to say about this situation. It is like the CBC has its big hand in the back of the collective Fiberals, manipulating them like a ventriliquist does his DUMBIES!!! Come on now Warren. We know you monitor this site. Lets have your two cents worth.
The money was “given” 14 years ago (14 years) for a business transaction and now Schreiber wants it back. He don’t even know why he gave it!! Give me a break. This sleazey character doesn’t want to go back to jail, especially in Germany!! Too bad. Next plane please… Ask him what he did with all the other dealings he had with “loose money” and not cheques. Someone else must be out there. In Russia, I know for a fact that this is how big companies purchase things – with suitcases of money – not cheques or credit cards – at least up until a few years ago. My brother was a purchasing agent there for a very large Canadian company. Dealing European style!!Thibault should go to jail with him. What was he doing interviewing Schreiber in jail anyway. The people of this country should wake up to see the permanent damage done to our country by the Liberals over the years and think before they ever vote for them again. They are so obviously crooked as well as the NDP who “DREAM” of power but will never get it -Federally. We had enough of them in Saskatchewan to do us a lifetime. For the 42 years I have lived here, our population has remained the same or LESS.
Wow! Anyone watching CBC’s National with Peter Mansbridge? 4 panelists, all of who are attacking Mulroney’s testimony, claiming all his testimony was inconsistent. They’re in a studio with university students … diversity of opinion is great, ain’t it? 😉
“Anyone watching CBC’s National with Peter Mansbridge?”
Do you mean high school educated, former public address announcer at the Churchill, Manitoba public airport Peter Mansbridge?
No.
“Anyone watching CBC’s National with Peter Mansbridge?”
You can make me pay for it but you can’t make me watch it.
So the billion dollar question is: Does the government have the balls to privatize CBC?
I certainly hope they do.
We can talk about the love-in between the Fiberals and the CBC but no one and I mean no one has a hate on for Conservatives (especially Stephen Harper) life Craig Oliver. This lightweight is just a riot to watch when he goes into a rant about Harper. What a pinhead!
…..the CBC surviving on viewers donating their own money …… kinda like Liberals relying on their grassroot support …..
….. for money , of course …..
You do mean the nutroots, right Bill? 🙂
Ya know…I’m starting to like Brian again!
Has anyone in these moronic liberal and ndpeers midst ever asked whose money Mulroney was given, was it Canadian taxpayer money like the stinking lieberals stole,, or was it only some dopey grease monkey of a germans money. Yea there is a big difference you stupid liberals.
I wouldn’t mind this so much if they were legitimately working with the commitee; the problem is that the CBC planted questions that had nothing to do with what Brian Mulroney was supposed to be there for, but were intended to put him on the defensive for an unrelated topic. This is supposed to be about Shreiber’s allegations…wtf are they asking about the wireless spectrum auction for?
Craig Oliver
Craiger is cocky because he’s won an Actra Award for his portrayal of Balok in the Corbomite Maneuver episode of the original Star Trek series.
According too liebral/dipper supporters – all conservetives lie and all lieberal/dippers tell the true – what rubbish!! PMSH should call an independent inquirey into Adscam/Shawinagate/JC’s
golf coures, etc. Also include dipper lies: re liberal canidate bribes in BC.
According too liebral/dipper supporters – all conservetives lie and all lieberal/dippers tell the true – what rubbish!! PMSH should call an independent inquirey into Adscam/Shawinagate/JC’s
golf coures, etc. Also include dipper lies: re liberal canidate bribes in BC.
The zaniest line of the day goes to Craig Oliver on Duffy when Oliver was defending the CBC feeding questions to Pablo Rodriquez, Oliver said “ that wouldn’t happen, Pablo is a very smart guy he can think up his own questions.”
Bird bill Oliver is just another Puffin Liberal who flies around his old bogs on the Hill and scoops up his daily load of zooplankton and dumps it on us every night on MDL.
Finally , an explanation I can agree with …
One more time folks.It may do nothing but,write the cbc,google cbc news and follow the links to the ombudsman.You may only get the form letter telling you that you are a nitwit that doesn’t know the dif between journalistic independence and journalistic freedom,but somewhere,someplace,somehow we can hope that someone is recording.The nutcases know that the ‘squeaky wheel gets the grease’.You know,if only people with common sense could be convinced to wear cool t-shirts and carry signs.and chant thingd like ‘what do we want,—–and when do we want it, now!!!. Over and over until the mind numbs,then we too can make a difference. I want an unbiased government news source,and I want it now.
Brian said he received 75,000/yr for 3 yrs to do consulting blah blah. Therefore, if that pymt was made in one lump sum (KS said 3 pymts) Brian had 3 yrs to declare it on 3 separate returns. Pat Matin was asking re gst. Any of you ever get a bill, invoice etc. You pay gst on the amount, then send it in on a gst return. Gst can be reported in many ways, and paid in different regular periods in the year. Brian never invoiced, but KS would have had to pay him gst, funny, no one asked KS if he paid Brian gst. GST is not reported as income. As for having a gst number, you have to have a different number for every business, so Pat asking if Brian has a number is useless. He probably has several.
Requesting his partnership papers is invasion of privacy for the other partners. I would like to have someone ask Thibault (sp) how much he was paid to set this whole thing up for KS to keep him in Canada. What about his actions, meeting with KS in jail, being sued by Brian, and then be a questioner of Brian on the ethics committee.
I bet we will hear more re Stevie Cameron.
The libs have stepped into it and the ndp is shovelling the pile higher. Dion will not be PM over this, and maybe will suffer Kim’s defeat of her party.
Also,isn’t Thiebault being sued by Mulroney? One would think that would disqualify him from asking questions. Only in Cuba,I mean Canada, would this shit be allowed.