Efforts continue to rescue us from the end of civilization as we know it;
Calculations suggest flying the 15,000 politicians, civil servants, green campaigners and television crews into Indonesia will generate the equivalent of 100,000 tonnes of extra CO2. That is similar to the entire annual emissions of the African state of Chad.
Have you rid yourself of that gas-guzzling SUV yet?
Attendees are expected to include celebrities such as Leonardo DiCaprio, the actor, as well as Arnold Schwarzenegger, governor of California, and Al Gore, the former US vice-president.
Many are merely “observers” who have no formal role to play in the talks, which largely involve government ministers and officials. Among these observers are 20 MEPs and 18 assistants whose itinerary includes a daytrip to the idyllic fishing and surfing village of Serangan.
Got your CFL bulbs?
The UN has also recently received thousands of new registrations from groups campaigning for the environment or fighting against poverty. WWF, one of the largest, is sending more than 32 staff to the meeting.
Thousands more are coming from businesses, especially the burgeoning carbon trading sector, which already carries out global transactions worth £12 billion a year and has an acute interest in the outcome of Bali.
Turn down your thermostat?
Indonesian officials say the final tally could reach 20,000 — and fear it could stretch the resort’s infrastructure to the limit. About 90% of the emissions will be generated by delegates flying thousands of miles to Bali, with the rest coming from the facilities they will be using.
How’s that new clothesline working for you?
Britain has tried to ensure its delegation is one of the smallest among the leading developed nations. Three ministers — Hilary Benn, the environment secretary, Phil Woolas, junior environment minister, and Gareth Thomas, junior minister for international development — will attend accompanied by about 40 civil servants.
Recycling your waste?
One of the biggest delegations is being assembled by the European Union, which is expected to send Stavros Dimas, the environment commissioner, and 90 officials. In addition, all 27 EU countries are expected to send separate national delegations. Germany has one of the biggest, with around 70, and France follows close behind with 50. Even Latvia will be represented by four delegates, while Malta, an island populated by 400,000, will have two.
Did you plant your tree?
And don’t forget to visit David Suzuki’s Bali blog to learn how our right-wing government is failing in their duty to sufficiently repress your C02 emissions. Because climate change is a non-partisan issue…
We’re keeping our fingers crossed [for a Rudd victory]. It would be great to have Australia on board in Bali. Heck, I’ll even buy their negotiators the first round of drinks at the swim-up bar
The Suzuki Foundation blog’s top post is titled – without a hint of irony – “Reality Check”.
“Have you rid yourself of that gas-guzzling SUV yet?”
Nope:
http://www.neutralhillsstills.ca/index.php?showimage=422
In fact, I like the one I bought for my wife so much that I’m thinking of buying one for myself next spring. That way I can emit even more carbon while I’m scouting for photos. That’s me, peeing in Al Gore’s Corn Flakes for the sake of art. 🙂
I love the complete lack of self-awareness.
Can the Canadian government ship a couple of polar bears to the festivities? I can see them cavorting at the swim-up bar now.
And Canada has Harper!! Aren’t we lucky??
This is so typical.
This piece in the Times On-line proves it once again. Like any other system governments run, the “save the world gang” will get so top heavy, inefficient, bloated, corrupt that for every ton of alleged pollution we are forced to take out of the atmosphere, the governments of the world will put back two with a subsidy.
I will continue to ignore the insane greening of humanity and live my life the way I want to. This world has way of shaking things out on it’s own. We are by-standers and should accept that.
Clean up particulate and water … better disposal of garbage? Yes to all that, but the climate change is the work of elements including the sun that we have no control over. Let the arrogance subside.
The ‘natural ruling party’, (and their ndp patsies) will continue to spread outright lies about Harpoon’s refusal to endorse Kyoto-until major polluters like China and India sign up.
As for those in denial about ‘global warming’:
let’s see where you find the money to feed your gas pigs, when the stock market crashes-early in the new year……
I love the huge size of this meeting. The bigger, the better. The bigger, the more scorn we can pile on them for their hypocrisy.
Hypocrits,plain and simple.But will the MSM call them on it? Yeah right
“And Canada has Harper!! Aren’t we lucky??”
Well, actually, yes we are VERY lucky to have Harper.
Bali-Bali-Bali- hmmm rings a bell.
Now might be an opportune time for the muzzis to strick again.
Holy smoke, they could get Decaprio and Aaaanold and,and,and———-
Horny Toad
I dunno about grounding politicians and bureaucrats….getting them on a plane out of Ottawa is the only whay we can be sure they are not doing us anymore damage….the safest times of the year are when parliament is prorogued and in between when house leaders are absent.
I’ll pay for the carbon credits to keep them out of town 🙂
Nice work!
Hard to figure out the global warming hysteria. We’re told it’s a matter of life and death, which makes me think all countries – including developing countries – should be held accountable. So PM Harper stands firm, and says he doesn’t want them excluded from a climate change agreement. Makes sense to me; but the idiot left apparently feels there’s no hurry to curb emissions from india and china.
BTW, interesting to think how many so-called leaders went home happy that someone else took the rap for a commonsense solution.
jet fuel paid by you.
hotel bills paid by you.
meals paid by you.
drinks paid by you.
clothes they wear paid by you.
air they breathe paid by you.
their egos paid by you.
their speeches paid by you.
I think that Kyotoism has all the attributes of an apocalyptic cult. Kyotoism operates on two levels.
First, via the UN, it operates as a money transference scheme, to transfer large sums of money from industrial countries to non-industrial or developing countries. This money is not being transfered as a repayable loan; instead, it is hidden as Sin Money, to be paid as a result of an inducted guilt – for being industrial. The definition of ‘industrial’ is ’emitting CO2′. However, this definition applies only to countries currently defined as ‘developed’. If you are defined as ‘developing’ by the UN, you are exempt from any restrictions on CO2 emissions.
The money transference idea was set up as a cult.
A cult is an emotional, irrational focus on an unproven allegation of cause and effect; this cause and effect includes extremes. In the Kyoto Cult, the issue was based on the ‘climate’ and the results of the cause, Human Sin.
The cause, or Sin, was Human Behaviour.
The result, was apocalpytic collapse of life on earth.
The Human Behaviour that was specifically Sinful was Industrialism. The West, aka, the industrial world, would be defined as Sinning and harming the world.
The tactic to become Pure and Stop Sinning was to ‘reduce CO2 emissions’. OR, better yet, since this would prove absolutely impossible in the time frame allotted – to Pay Sin Money, aka Carbon Credits.
These monies would be sent by the UN to ‘developing countries’. To industrialize. They were exempt from emission standards. Neat.
As a cult, bogus scientific claims emerge (the hockey stick) and a great deal of money is available for research to support the claim that global warming is caused primarily by humans and is ‘not natural’.
Scientific rebuttals are treated as heresies (and labelled The Deniers).
Kyotoism is a cult. The notion of CO2 emissions as the primary cause of global warming is pure nonsense.
As an apocalyptic cult, based on emotions and the rejection of science, it inhibits dissent. But, what is happening, outside Kyotoism and from the ground up, is that valid scientific and pratical economic agendas are moving in. These agendas are denying the apocalyptic scenario, are stating that climate change is natural and are intent, however, on reducing both emissions and pollution (something the Kyoto Cult is not interested in).
So, we have, gradually, the Asia-Pacific agreement, the Commonwealth Agreement. We have many more articles being published that reject the AGW idea, and reject CO2 emissions as the primary cause of natural warming.
What will happen? Like all cults, it will retain its emotional appeal but for fewer and fewer. More and more, the hypocrisy, the naive ignorance of the behaviour of its members – will be made public.
…and Doug, don’t forget:
– their carbon offsets for attending this Bali trip, paid by you (to Al Gore’s company, probably).
It is Kafka writ large. The political elites gathering to discuss the equivalent of “how many angels can dance on the head of a pin”.
With the collapse of the US dollar, with the Howard loss (even losing his own seat), with the Annapolis Peace in our Time conference, with the persistence of climate change mania, with the utter collapse of free speech and democracy in Europe, with the potential for a Clinton presidency and socialized health care in the US, I’m afraid that the tide may have turned — that socialism is back.
The west got fat and comfy and with that comes boredom and mischief. The thing is: conservatives always make the fatal mistake of presuming that prosperity makes the case all by itself. Never it seems. Liberty and the free market economy need to be actively sold, and re-sold, and re-sold.
ET, I was thinking: on that PET thread a little earlier, PET’s “social justice” was mentioned once or twice but not his: “North South Dialogue”. I can very vividly remember being initially bewildered by that concept, until I got that it was really North South Monologue: with our post-colonial guilt complex WE will transfer wealth to YOU.
I like your characterization of Kyotism as a apocalyptic cult. I’m thinking the word “millenarian” has a spot here too!
This crowd, Dionsky types and the Commonwealth are all the same. Sacrifices must be made, by you that is, with payment to us.
ET: Your point about the “sin” of industrialization.
I’ve been trying to figure out why Hollywood celebrities get onto this kind of bandwagon. My theory is: penance for the sin of earning money for nothing and a lot of it. Come to think of it the British rock group Dire Straits once had a hit song entitled “Money for Nothing”. I think this theory also helps explain the maudlin thinking and behaviour of wealth inheritors like Ted Kennedy and PET.
I was so alarmed by the drowning polar bear photos in Time magazine that I am letting my long-term subscription lapse.
It’s just a little something I can do to reduce my carbon footprint a tad.
I know Time magazine will be proud of me.
Meanwhile, they keep inundating me with subscription offers, thus expanding their footprint and offsetting my efforts to reduce.
Maybe that’s what the green crowd mean by carbon offsets — you reduce yours; we’ll expand ours.
From the Suzuki Foudation blog- “We’re keeping our fingers crossed. It would be great to have Australia on board in Bali. Heck, I’ll even buy their negotiators the first round of drinks at the swim-up bar.”
Isn’t the SUZUKI Foundation supposed to be non-political in order to be a TAX FREE foundation?
Buying drinks for for your favourite new political winner says something about the use of TAX Free money doesn’t it?
The Dioncrites will be out in force in Bali at taxpayers expense. All countries will be over represented and will generate tons of CO2 by way of travel and talking.
Great post, Me No Dhimmi at November 25, 2007 1:05 PM
Not sure if this little gem has been highlighted here before,but I thot it was worth pointing out.Found it at The Star.com(yeah,the TO Star).If there was ever a question about the Whiny Weasel’s ability to show leadership on the world stage,this little much under reported display speaks volumes.
article from Nov.24,thestar.com:
It seemed like an innocuous remark.during QP on Wed,the Env.Minister John Baird gave a little shout-out to an aboriginal delegation in the spectators gallery,who had been on hand earlier in the day at the announcement of a big conservation project in Canada’s North.
But,that’s a big no-no.Only the Commons Speaker can recognize visitors in the gallery,and MP’s who have done the same in the past have been banned from speaking in QP for 30 days.Baird got off with a warning tho.
**** EVEN MORE EXTRAORDINARY,HOWEVER,WAS HOW THAT REMARK PROVOKED STEPHANE DION.THE LIB.LEADER STARTED WILDLY WAVING TO THE ABORIGINAL DELEGATION,POINTING TO HIS OWN CHEST WITH BOTH HANDS AND ARGUING THAT BAIRD WAS TRYING TO TAKE CREDIT FOR SOMETHINHG HE HIMSELF HAD DONE WHEN HE WAS ENV.MINISTER.”IT WAS ME,”HE SHOUTED UPWARD TO THE ABORIGINAL LEADERS,WHO LOOKED A BIT PERPLEXED BY ALL THE GESTURING.THEN DION STARTED BARKING AT BAIRD,SAYING ALL THE WORK ON THE CONSERVATION PROJECT HAD BEEN DONE BEFORE THE CONS.CAME TO OFFICE AND “YOU ONLY HAD TO SIGN YOUR NAME” OBSERVERS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE HOUSE AVERTED THEIR EYES AT THE OUTBURST.
The lesson?Recognition is a sensitive subject in politics.It can even make you lose your dignity.
Is this really what a leader looks like?Can you just imagine this performance on the world ‘stage’if something doesn’t go steffi’s way?What next..breaking down,bawling,for all the world to see? What an absolute embarrassment for not just the Libs,if that’s the best they can do,they better keep Steffi at home!Pair that,with PMSH commanding performance this past wk-end,and it’s ‘cringeworthy’for the Libs.
Can you get me a link for that Sammy?
In the tradition of Glenn Beck who instituted Coal Week with extra lights on his show after NBC had their green week, I think I need to find some ways to outproduce those folks on their way to Indonesia. For a start I think I will pull the snow off that last pile of leaves so that I can burn it. Then I need to get a wood stove for the house so I can burn some wood and maybe some of that dirty Estevan coal to heat my house. I could then burn most of my garbage and recyclables. Wow I fell better already.
By the way, lest we forget, in our assumption that we, mankind, not only can break but can make, the climate.
It’s dark at the poles; it’s dark in the arctic for at least five months. No matter how warm or how cold – it’s dark. Mankind can reduce his emissions to zero; it’ll still be dark. You can’t grow wheat in the arctic. Even when it’s warm.
As for the Kyotoists – let them talk. As a cult, the Kyotoists and CO2 emitters (and they are, themselves, all big-time emitters)are becoming more and more removed from mainstream society. More and more confined to pompous rhetoric and sun-filled holiday er..conferences. From the ground up, science and politics are moving against them and into pragmatic realism.
Kate, here’s the link:
http://www.thestar.com/News/article/279482
Hey Kate,I saw this item pointed out at ‘the Garthicle’s’..it wasn’t highlighted,just star.com..went there ant to the search on site,typed in Dion,it was 6 or 7th item headlined under Dion wins recognition
To reinforce ET’s accurate comments, On Phillip Stott’s ‘A Hot Topic Blog’, his Byline reads: “‘Global warming’ has become the grand political narrative of the age, replacing Marxism as a dominant force for controlling liberty and human choices”…. I think he has nailed it. A week or so back he wrote an analogy on Al Gore being the new Jimmy Jones and his GW hysteria being the Cool Aid consumed by the masses.
Recommended site: http://web.mac.com/sinfonia1/iWeb/Global%20Warming%20Politics/A%20Hot%20Topic%20Blog/A%20Hot%20Topic%20Blog.html
“Money for Nothing”. I think this theory also helps explain the maudlin thinking and behaviour of wealth inheritors like Ted Kennedy and PET.”
And …. Further down in the dreg region of society, welfare recipients (Indians too) also lose any sense of pride and integrity. They appear to cope (whether they know it or not) with the shame of receiving money for nothing by continually finding new burdens to whine about. They also love to go and spew hatred and protest just about everything that is productive as if it were their job or avocation at the very least.
I believe it is they, themselves that they despise and it is their failure to achieve any self-worth by giving into to their baser instincts that unmotivates them from the dealing with the reality and true challenges of a life to be lived rather than wasted.
Money for nothing is a mind-destroying vehicle and it should not be available at least to those who are not negotiating contracts to get it in exchange for some dubious talent or service.
Having just read the article on TimesOnline, the scariest thing about it was the readers’ comments, third one down, in which the reader from Bern, Switzerland considers the 100,000 tonnes a cheap investment if it brings about an agreement. How the hell do you deal with stupidity / religious zealotry on that level?
Ah, Kyoto… The new Scientology.
This Kyoto religion needs to met with a wall of resistance. The old adage that “you can lead a horse to Kyoto, but you cannot make him drink” is in order here.
Simple and persistent resistance at all levels will help hold these idiots back. Question everything. Write letters and Emails to your politicians. Let them know you don’t want to throw your hard earned money in the toilet.
These folks are selling snake oil and because it’s not real and true it will not be an easy sell if you remain completely untrusting and skeptical.
The sheer stupidity of things such as buying a new expensive hybrid car while your old one will remain in use by someone else with less money, in order to save the world, is beyond description.
The “being seen to be green” set are a bunch of phonies and they are merely easing their guilt and finding a reason to go buy some thing new and shiny. It is lunacy.
I will continue to drive my 1989 Dodge van, blue smoke and all, because refuse to bring a new vehicle on-line to save the world. My goal is to save my money for more sensible pursuits.
Harper is on 100% safe ground by asking for the flaws in Kyoto to be fixed.
As I said before, the adults are now doing the negotiating as opposed to the amatuers before. The EU sent economists and modellers to the Kyoto meetings we sent nvironmentalists….and we got fleeced.
If it is a big deal and the US and China and India are going to sign on then we had better send a proper team not just a group who will sign anything.
Harper will have no political trouble saying a treaty that doesnt include the big emitters is worthless. Susuki’s crap that we need to show the Chinese and Indians the way…..worst kind of paternalism and/or naivete we could exhibit.
But then Suzuki is in his retirement years and has enough money to live without needing to produce anything else, none of that dirty ugly industrial stuff….ewwww.
Of course the number of people who will be buying worthless carbon credits is ridiculous, as if that makes it ok. They all should have chartered a ship 3 weeks ago so they could be there in time with minimal C02 emissions
This is so reminiscent of Douglas Adams’ history of the universe where the advanced society sent their government officials, bureaucrats and various other useless meeting-attenders off in a spaceship ‘fleeing’ their ‘doomed’ planet saying ‘Don’t worry, us less important folk will take the next ship…’ The time is ripe! Lets get started on that spaceship.
Then I need to get a wood stove for the house so I can burn some wood
San Franciso, I gather, is considering banning wood stoves.
Same old scam only the theme has changed. It can be defined as a huge global grab for money and power.
The Toronto Star/Canada Press wrote up a snarky article on Harper and Kyotoism:
http://www.thestar.com/News/article/279720
The article has the Uganda PM quoting Trudeau as stating that the Commonwealth is a ‘family’ and ends by informing us that this same Uganda PM was dozing off during Harper’s speech.
Harper is absolutely correct in his assessment of Kyoto, but our Liberals/NDP and their cohorts, the MSM, are still in denial. Takes time..
Climate Change Issues, (Sask born, US Citizen)
Media:
The Canadian media (CBC) is culturally ignorant of American laws & Canada has been isolated from the environmental COST impact of California’s Social Engineering. That is why they report statements, by environmentalists, as fact or truth. They are not necessarily corrupt, as deception takes some brains, just a lack of journalistic practices & education found in those with Social agendas
The US media has no valid reason not to understand the Environmentalist’s use of the
“ Noerr- Pennington Doctrine” protection provided them by the US 9th Circuit.
Yes ! they (Environmentalists) may exaggerate & lie without consequences (think Used Car Salesmen). Responsible US media that report environmental statements as fact or truth must insure that the Statement was made “Under Oath”.
Mandates:
The US Supreme Court ruled (Bradey bill) that Mandates must include the “Costs” to each State. That was bad news for JUNK science, costs are predicated on results, and no federal mandates have passed since the ruling. Take my word; US senators that spend “State” money on mandates, bogus or not, have no future. Its a culture thing
California’s state of bankruptcy:
When California began its environmental Social Engineering their Manufacturing base responded by fleeing to other states like Utah, & the Sun Belt. That is when /why they appealed (asked) for federal mandates, and were successful, but major manufacturing functions moved offshore and none returned. California became attractive to manufactures in the environmental sector. When Al Gore lost in 2000, & the mandate path was closed, those anticipated environmental product sales flat-lined. Industry is DEAD
I think the US Congress will provide some help to California in the “Green plan” but Gore will not be successful in rewarding his corporate donors, from 2000.
Harper may have studied the California case, and doesn’t want the same thing to happen to Canada. To whom would Canada appeal for help?
Idiots have no limits!
I don’t know how anyone with half a functioning brain can’t see through this scam. Well, we know that cry baby’s like Dion and his environment critic qualify quite nicely with their quarter percent.
Did you see Baird’s smack down of McSqinty last week in Question period………Priceless?
hilary benn?
sounds like benny hill.
I knew he was behind all this.
anybody got his skit about the men’s vs buxom women’s soccer teams?
also: I dont drive since the 93 taurus was doomed to flunk its 2nd emissions test, I dont watch CFL, and I havent turned *down* my th’stat because I haven’t turned it up yet. it was 9 celcius in here yesterday. and I do recycle and compost. and I plant 4, count ’em, FOUR trees when I moved in here and another going in come springtime. can I go to indonesia now?
ET, you are always articulate and persuasive, and I think that you are correct.
However, I think there is another factor that has to be included in our suppositions.
The fact that Y2Kyoto has become an indisputable cause celebre tells us something about it that goes past many of us.
A lot of us are doing OK, but that’s different than the ethos and practices of the extremely rich.
In the world of the extremely rich, one acquires and solidifies status by doing things that ostensibly appear to be offering charity. Benefit dinners, performances, sponsorship for invited speakers, and everyone knows they are supposed to bring their checkbooks.
If you happen to be a wealthy drug dealer and you’re trying to figure out how to parlay your money into social status so you can be invited to the dinner party of someone named Muffy, you need to cut loose with a huge dinner to benefit those fighting against global warming. The Gambino brothers, who ruled the New York garment district with an iron hand, were celebrated philanthropists all over New York before John Gotti was busted.
There is an extensive system of high society and haute couture and haute cuisine patronized by people who are not living their lives to acquire money, because they already have a huge amount of it. They don’t shop at Walmart, but bid for their furnishings and wines at Sotheby’s.
They don’t really care if the cause celebre really passes muster, because for them it is an opportunity to be at the top of the guest lists in St. Moritz (or wherever) during the Season.
This all amounts to an untold amount of wealth, and of course wherever there is wealth in a stratified social hierarchy, there are operators.
A lot of operators work in the UN and operate in the arena of the social elite in a sort of unspoken alliance that causes dollars to flow into the coffers of the operator and social status to flow to the social elite.
Capndan…that smackdown by Baird can be seen on some blogs:
officiallyscrewed and Chistianconservative
(I’m wondering if Baird was out of order…just a technicality..he directed his comments to the other MP’s instead of the Speaker)
It was a great laugh tho.
We owe Mcguinty a huge thank you for pointing out that NGO’s and other tagalong wannabees are not going to Bali on our dime. Of course Mcguinty was whining about it.
If the Libs were ‘in power’ they would be bragging that $$ spent on the Bali trip was part of their ‘enviro policy budget’ ..and of course some sheeple would believe them.
Kate, the format for this Suzuki smackdown is great!
ok4ua.
only on the keyboard long enough to stop making DNA contributions to the bottom of his gym socks.
Has anyone tried to leave comments at the Bali blog?
I tried and tried, I even wrote them an email, but nothing.
Apparently, some think the humans not only affect the weather.
Mankind ‘shortening the universe’s life’
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/11/21/scicosmos121.xml&CMP=ILC-mostviewedbox
Take that big G.
Sometimes it seems that some people go to school for a long time, just so they can say stupid things that can be made subject to serious debate.
And the same ones who whine about people driving SUVs are doing it from the back seat of their chuafer driven 4 mpg limos while traveling about giving dumb lechers on saving the earth
The Bali Ballad
The eastern world, it is exploding
Violence flarin’, bullets loadin’
You’re old enough to kill, but not for votin’
You don’t believe in war, but what’s that gun you’re totin’
And even the Jordan River has bodies floatin’
But you tell me
Over and over and over again, my friend
Ah, you don’t believe
We’re on the eve
of destruction.
Don’t you understand what I’m tryin’ to say
Can’t you feel the fears I’m feelin’ today?
If the button is pushed, there’s no runnin’ away
There’ll be no one to save, with the world in a grave
[Take a look around ya boy, it’s bound to scare ya boy]
And you tell me
Over and over and over again, my friend
Ah, you don’t believe
We’re on the eve
of destruction.
Yeah, my blood’s so mad feels like coagulatin’
I’m sitting here just contemplatin’
I can’t twist the truth, it knows no regulation.
Handful of senators don’t pass legislation
And marches alone can’t bring integration
When human respect is disintegratin’
This whole crazy world is just too frustratin’
And you tell me
Over and over and over again, my friend
Ah, you don’t believe
We’re on the eve
of destruction.
Think of all the hate there is in Red China
Then take a look around to Selma, Alabama
You may leave here for 4 days in space
But when you return, it’s the same old place
The poundin’ of the drums, the pride and disgrace
You can bury your dead, but don’t leave a trace
Hate your next-door neighbor, but don’t forget to say grace
And… tell me over and over and over and over again, my friend
You don’t believe
We’re on the eve
Of destruction
Mm, no no, you don’t believe
We’re on the eve
of destruction.
Perspective is optional.
Synro
“And the same ones who whine about people driving SUVs are doing it from the back seat of their chuafer driven 4 mpg limos while traveling about giving dumb lechers on saving the earth”
Either learn how to spell or stay the hell out of comment sections as you’re reflecting poorly on the people on the AGW side of the debate. That’s…
“chauffeur ”
and
“lectures”
…okay? If you can’t be bothered to run your spell checker please then move to Al Gore’s side of the debate so your laziness/lack of education reflects poorly on him instead.
The facts do not support John Cross’ statement that man is responsible for all the CO2 increase since 1960.
http://community.myfoxny.com/blogs/Anselm
1. Atmospheric pressure is about 15 psi (pounds/in./in.).
2. Earth’s radius is about 4,000 miles.
3. CO2 constituted about 0.04 per cent of the atmosphere in 1950. . . .
4. CO2 now constitutes more like 0.06 per cent of the atmosphere.
From #2 we calculate that Earth’s surface area is 0.8 billion billion square inches. And from #1 that the atmosphere weighs 11.9 billion billion pounds. This is 6 million billion tons. Now take fact #3; 0.04 per cent is 2,400 billion tons of CO2. Half (the change since 1950) is 1,200 billion tons. Let’s call this fact #5:
5. There were 2,400 billion tons of CO2 in the atmosphere in 1950; 3,600 billion tons now, give or take a sigh or two….
6. Human activity currently releases 6 billion tons of CO2 per year.
7. Non-human activity (oceans, trees, Pinatubo, Mauna Loa, etc.) releases 200 billion tons of CO2 per year. . . .
Now compare fact #5 with fact #6. Simple division tells you that if every molecule of human-released CO2 at the current rate of production stayed in the atmosphere, it would take another 200 years for the post-1950 change to be matched. Or looking backward, since minus 200 years takes us back to before the Industrial Revolution, it means that if every CO2 molecule from every factory, car, steam engine, barbecue, campfire, and weenie roast that ever was since the first liberal climbed down out of a tree right up until today was still in the atmosphere, it still wouldn’t account for the change in CO2 since 1950.