Be sure to pack a headscarf. ‘Cause that’s coming, too.
North Shore Tax driver Behzad Saidy refused to take Bruce Gilmour and his dog from a West Vancouver coffee shop to Gilmour’s Vancouver home in January 2006, saying his Muslim religion prevented him from associating with dogs because they’re “unclean.”
In addition to paying Gilmour $2,500, the taxi company was required to implement a policy for transporting blind people and their guide dogs.
It’s against the law for cab drivers not to transport blind people with guide dogs, but a settlement agreement between Gilmour and the taxi company says an exception to that law would be a Muslim driver refusing to transport a dog because of religious beliefs.
Via Mark Steyn, who (as you might expect) has more commentary. As do BCF and Shaidle
Update – Damian Brooks – “Steyn may well be right, but the case he’s chosen to highlight doesn’t make his point.”.
Update II – BCF says “not so fast….”
The doings of brown idiots in cabs are of little consequence to me. The last time I called for a cab I specified a white driver and made no bones about it.
I know many dogs that are a helluva lot cleaner than some of the imported mutts that drive the cabs these days. At least, they smell cleaner.
Screw the moslems. Two can play that game. To hell with the lot of them.
Posted by: Jim at August 16, 2007 2:57 PM
now there’s a keeper huh kate? gonna let that one stand or is it just alittle too close for comfort?
* Wilful promotion of hatred . Every one who, by communicating statements, other than in private conversation, wilfully promotes hatred against any identifiable group is guilty of [a crime].
You say “nowhere do I generalize against the global muslim population?”
C’mon Ward, snap out of it. 95% support radical Islamists, and they all stink? And you know, for sure, because you’re surrounded by them, and your sister was married to one for 15 years?
Maybe you’ve met some bad ones, or maybe you’ve had poor experiences with Muslims due to the fact you’re a racist prick and an asshole.
I don’t throw the racist tag around wildly, and I’m not particularly “politically correct.” I do believe we need to stand up for Canadian values, and that people who immigrate to Canada should live by them.
However, suggesting Muslims have poor hygiene and stink, use their bare hands in place of toilet paper, etc.., turns my stomach and serves no purpose but to fuel hatred.
I’m looking at a good friend (and Muslim) that I work with as I type. I can’t even mention some of what passes for civilized discourse among some posters here. It’s disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself.
How can any one respect a cult like Islam. Where it’s followers worship Mohammad a pedophile, he took a 6 year old for a wife and had intercourse with her when she was 9, what he did with her before that we do not know. He made a treaty with a chief, then in a surprise attack murdered the chief’s tribe, he then tortured the chief until he told him were his gold was hid. After killing the chief he then forced the widow of the chief to become his wife. This is their great hero who they look up to and aspire to be like.
And yet falling so far short of sterilizing Africa, Jeffy.
Glass houses, stones, throwing thereof. You get the picture.
Jeff,
Remember your pro-thought police stance the next time you hear some leftard bashing christians. Especially if that leftard is you.
Thought crimes are orwellian PC tyranny.
I can accuse the devout Muslim of a lot of things, but being unclean is not one of them. If they have access to water they will be clean. Cleanliness is one of the traits of Islam.
Clearly the way to resolve this is that the cab driver have to sign an agreement that they will pick up all fares including ones that have guide dogs, they can then decide if their religious beliefs preclude them from that job. You are free to believe what you want, you are not free to impose that belief on others.
phantom,
for your benefit, i’ll be clear. i’ve never expressed support for the notion of sterilizing africa. in fact, i’m fundamentally opposed.
please consider our conversation on the matter closed. MUAH!
For those of us in the civilized Western World, Islam is a cult. It is totally at odds with everything in the world of the 21st century. It’s adherents live a life of fear and misery. It preaches and practices cruelty and hate, treats it’s women no better than goats and is firmly time warped in the seventh century.
Anyone disagree?
Jeftard,
The term ‘Islamophobia’ is defined as an irrational fear of Islam.
Even a cursory read through the Quran, Hadiths and Suras reveal an ideology founded on extreme violence. Barbaric violence not just employed as a military tactic in its imperialist objectives, but violence directed at the other. Particularly towards the Kaffir, women, homosexuals and apostates.
Therefore, fear of such a toxic ideology infecting the west, as well as fear of immigrant proponents of Islam settling in the west is not irrational.
Is it irrational to fear 9/11, or 7/7 again? Is it irrational to fear shariah? A worldwide caliphate? Spontaneous jihad?
Apparently, billions of dollars being spent in security would not agree with your retarted sentiment.
Islamophobia is another taqiyya term foisted on the west in order to gather sympathy and to instill a sense of victimhood. It completely ignores the worldwide and historical reality of Islamic attrocities occuring daily for 1400 years.
Or as Sir William Muir (1819-1905), one of the world’s greatest orientalists said: “the sword of Muhammad and the Qur’an are the most fatal enemies of civilization, liberty, and truth which the world has yet known.”
Jimbo,
“have you ever taken a cab driven by a muslim? Most of these people are filthy”, and in the same post; “We must end muslim immigration”. I think it’s easy to see where you’re coming from here.”
I stated that most of the muslim cab drivers in Toronto are filthy, in terms of smell. Do you live in Toronto? Do you know better than people who take cabs in Toronto?
As far as ‘we must end muslim immigration.’ It is a statement that I’ve made here often. In this case it refers to creeping, if not pushed shariah, exemption from law and other privileges benefiting Muslims only. All of which are untenable.
Yeah, Jeff, we’re all shakin’ here. Hate crime laws are for weenies.
tell me: when Muslims fly planes into buildings (add your favourite example here) aren’t THEY the ones promoting and encouraging hatred of a specific group — ie. themselves?
Just askin.
Jimbo, sorry, but ‘some’ Muslims do not use toilet paper…..don’t shoot the messenger. Unfortunately, what westerners would consider to be acts of cleanliness are totally foreign to what Asians practice as acts of cleanliness. Maybe you should put your disgust where it belongs and get out more.
The case for seeing-eye attack dogs…
“Kill, King! Kill!”
If you were a Muslim in Iraq today, who would you fear? Answer: another Muslim. To think that it is just non-Muslims fearing Muslims is simple-minded; everyone fears a Muslim, whether a Muslim doctor or a member of Al Queda, because non-Muslims and Muslims do not have a clue, which Muslim is going to make that decision to end your life. You know the saying ‘black on black crime’, well this is ‘Muslim on Muslim and everyone else crime’. Muslim extremists do not discriminate, they’ll kill anyone. I don’t know if moderate Muslims are too afraid to stand up and speak out against Muslim extremists, or deep down inside, they’re just glad someone else is doing the dirty work. There were just too many Muslims considered to be ‘moderate’ in Canada that felt the Americans deserved 9/11…..how can a person make sense of this and still think of these Muslims as ‘moderate’.
Indexed as: Gilmour v. North Shore Taxi and others, 2006 BCHRT 529
….[7] Mr. Saidy has filed a statement from a Muslim cleric which states that Islam holds some restrictions towards certain animals, including dogs. It does not outline what those restrictions are, but invites the reader to contact the cleric should there be any questions. Mr. Gilmour has also filed a statement from a Muslim cleric which draws into question whether Islamic beliefs would have prevented Mr. Saidy from taking Mr. Gilmour’s guide dog in the taxi….
http://www.bchrt.bc.ca/decisions/2006/pdf/Oct/529_Gilmour_v_North_Shore_Taxi_and_others_2006_BCHRT_529.pdf
Jimbo: Actually I imagine you throw out the name calling and racist tags quite wildly, since you did it here with no coaxing. Likely gives you a little tingle, talking tough through your computer.
So you work with 4 clean muslims and that makes me a racist asshole?? You have the argumentative skills of an isolent 13 year old.
(for the record Jimbo, you are applying comments to me that I never made. Nowhere did I say that 95% of muslims stink. I imagine the error must be because you are so blinded with righteous anger)
Also if I was your boss I’d fire you for spending all morning on the computer when you should be working.
Oh goody. I ripped an agreement out of jeffy that sterilizing Africa is a bad thing. I feel so uplifted.
I agree with you jeffy, Jim at August 16, 2007 2:57 PM is a goof.
Now, about this guy who refused to give a cab ride to a BLIND PERSON… Is this the kind of person we want to be importing to Canaduh and then encouraging in his disgusting behavior?
And before you answer jeffie, remember there’s a whole religion with millions of adherents in India which exists solely because of hundreds of years of Muslim atrocities. That’d be the Sikhs, whose women are much scarier than Al Qeerda.
I have confirmation from my secret Sikh source, she’d have turned the dog on him. And then stomped on whatever he didn’t get.
Abû Hurayrah relates that Allah’s Messenger said about the sea:
“To purify one of your dishes after a dog laps up some of its contents, you must wash it seven times, one of them with dirt.”
And the dog is ‘unclean?’
Re: Colin: “I can accuse the devout Muslim of a lot of things, but being unclean is not one of them. If they have access to water they will be clean. Cleanliness is one of the traits of Islam.”
Thank you for pointing that out. That has, overwhelmingly, been my experience. That’s one reason I object so strongly to the notion of unclean Muslims. It’s the exact opposite from what I see and experience every day.
As I mentioned, Irwin Daisy, if there are smelly Muslim cabdrivers in Toronto, maybe it has to do with driving a cab in Toronto, not with their faith.
And yes, Joanne, I do get out a lot, though not as often as I used to. I suspect there is some fear within the moderate Muslim community of speaking out against extremists, as you suggest.
Cleanliness is no more a trait of Islam than peace is.
Like anybody else, body odour may be caused by poor hygeine, or diet. Typically it’s a regional thing. I mentioned Muslim cab drivers smelling in Toronto, because many of them do.
This is offensive. Especially so, since you’ve hired a cab that claims the passenger has the right to a clean cab. What we have to put up with is far more offensive than it is for a Muslim to transport a seeing eye dog.
As well, the more you study Mohammad (the perfect man, the one for all Muslims to emulate) the more you’ll see how disgusting a man he was, based on hygeine. Read about how he treated his harem, especially Aisha. Read about how he claimed it to be alright for the Muslim to wash himself with dirt. Read about the disgusting stains he sported on his clothing. His obesity, etc. etc.
This is the figure they are commanded to emulate in perpetuity.
Hell, they drank his piss, because it was holy and sanctified. They still talk about craving it today.
Cleanliness? Right.
How does one determine that a Toronto or Vancouver cab driver is Muslim? Do they wear a sign or badge identifying them as Muslim? Or does one simply say that one smells, therefore he is a Muslim?
The ugliness in this post is really tragic; I had expected comments that are more intelligent on SDA, but the vileness here is really ugly. But, I guess that is what happens when you upset dog worshippers. Did you know “dog” is “god” spelt backwards?
That is a really good definition of an ignorant twit, Garth Wood: “The more I learn about people, the better I like my dogs.” Perhaps the ignorant twit simply cannot relate to or understand people, and so is limited to “liking” and relating to his dogs. What a sad story of an empty life!
“however, painting all muslims in the same light is irresponsible.”
I’ll worry about that when you stop painting “all SDA’ers in the same light”. Now find somewhere else to spew your leftist bigotry against conservatives.
Re hate speech: as usual, a double standard, it seems.
There is a raft of Muslim imams and others in the West, who vilify the very people whose countries and freedoms they take advantage of. And then, because of political correctness, criticizing them is verboten and, in some Western countries (e.g., England), even against the law. (Are we CRAZY!?!?) Then, of course, there are the ACTUAL atrocities committed by far too many Muslims.
“Not all Muslims are terrorists but nearly all acts of terrorism in the world are committed by Muslims.” BTW, IMO, this is not hate speech: it happens to be true. The problem, though, with the PC dispensation, at least here in Canada, is that truth has nothing to do with it.
That’s why Westernized citizens are censured for voicing their valid criticisms of Muslims, while Muslims, apparently, can say just about anything they like about us and not only get away with it, but also get tangible redress—on our dime! UNFAIR?
I do think that Jim’s comments are intemperate. But I can sure understand where the anger comes from. Treating people unjustly, while denying fair and effective recourse—which is exactly what our politically correct excuse for public institutions does to law abiding Canadians from “legacy” ethnic groups—breeds contempt. (I’m not including the “legacy” group of Aboriginals, who, like Muslims, also have special—unfair—status and are let off the hook.)
Recently, I worked closely with a lovely—very clean and attractive—Muslim woman. We shared many values. However, we never discussed the Muslim-made troubles in the world. Out of sensitivity for her feelings, I kept my comments and feelings to myself.
Likewise, when I attended an all day Muslim celebration—with LOADS of Liberal politicians—not one word of the “troubles” was mentioned: not by anyone at any time. These “good” Muslims—and they are—never said a word: isn’t it strange, that these “moderate, good” Muslims, in effect, totally ignore “the elephant in the room”—their elephant—which has been cruelly trampling the rights and lives of so many?
The apparent unwillingness of the “decent” Muslim community to acknowledge the cancer in its midst and stand with those afflicted by it—often savagely—is a real deficit.
Remember the parable of the Good Samaritan: when asked “Who is my neighbour?” (of the 2nd Commandment: “Love thy neighbour as thyself”), Jesus told the story of the wounded man and the Samaritan who helped him, while others—even a priest—walked by on the other side.
Of course, the neighbour was the man—actually, from a tribe not at all disposed to acknowledge or help Samaritans—who helped the person in need.
The West is now in need: from both outside and inside, we are under attack by Muslim extremists, some who behave like savages and some just “rights” crazy. We need a neighbour to help us.
Is the “moderate” Muslim community—where, it appears, many extremists are being formed—rushing to our aid? Sadly, the truth of the matter is summed up in one word: NO.
“Neighbours” who don’t help those in need, especially when those in need have welcomed those neighbours into their homes—e.g., Western countries—is another, very justifiable reason for the anger many people feel. Yes, that anger should be tempered and, yes, when it’s not, it’s ugly. But it’s still justified.
And what’s uglier: raw anger at cruelty, murder, and injustice or the FACT of cruelty, murder, and injustice? Let’s get our priorities straight. (And, Jim, I hear you! But, with respect, maybe you could tone it down a bit.)
…i can feel the love from Fred and Honey Pot.
Wow, who pee’d in your cereals?
“Did you know “dog” is “god” spelt backwards?”
Did you know that many dyslexic insomniacs wake up at night to ponder the existence of dog?
Terrence, dude. Blind guy denied cab ride? Hello!
Cab company forced to retain employees who will happily strand a blind guy? Two cabs to carry one fare?
Human rights law against stranding blind guys (or black people, muslims, women, old people, guys in wheechairs, guys with green hair, fat chicks with mohawks and bad eye makeup…) OVERTURNED because of asinine Leftards on the BC Human Rights Commission and some A-HOLE who doesn’t like dogs “for religious reasons”?
Tell you what terr-(Lower Case)-ence, how you going to feel if White cab drivers start refusing to pick up Muslim chick in hijabs because they are “unclean”? Church of Elvis the Redeemer says so.
Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
Furthermore, for all you goody two shoes paragons of virtue, remind yourself what the word “tolerance” means. We are not required to like Muslims. We are not required to say we like Muslims. Exercising free speech we can even say we don’t like them and give reasons why not. What we are required to do, by our own civilized standards and by our law, is TOLERATE Muslims.
And we do. They however seem not to be returning the favor. This is not a redneck hates Muslim issue. This is Muslim hates redneck.
Who do you think the government should be backing here? The stranded blind guy, the screwed-over cab company or this cabbie creep?
…or the philosophical atheist wondering how he could be alive?
Clearly this is a sign that them Mooslims are taking over.
First let me just say that all of you sky-ghost people are a pain in the ass. All of you. Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, Sikh, Mormon, Scientologist, everybody.
Some crazy/power-hungry/greedy person tells you that they spoke to god, and that god wants you to do as that person tells you, and you are stupid enough to believe them.
That said, we all have to tolerate each other’s retarded beliefs, so the court has worked out a compromise. Can you say that? “Com-pro-mise”
You guys are trying to frame it as if the victim didn’t walk away with $2500 for having to wait for another cab, and ignore the fact that drivers must make other arrangements for riders inconvenienced by their beliefs.
Now I know you guys are prone to panic about stuff like this, but it hardly signifies the end of Western civilization. It’s just another annoying thing to tolerate.
And before you go whining about leftist intolerance, take a breath and step back. You will notice that our intolerance seems to always be connected to us being intolerant of your intolerance. See how that works?
It seems to me that this type of patently retarded bias favouring Muslim rights vs the rights of all other religions is a good place to make a stand. Letter to editor, letters to MPs, etc. I will be writing quite a few.
I don’t think this particular example of dhimittude tops the best one of them – the banning of public eating of food in the Glasgow hospitals, less Muslim colleagues be offended. That one takes the cake.
http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/16309
“First let me just say that all of you sky-ghost people are a pain in the ass. All of you. Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, Sikh, Mormon, Scientologist, everybody.”
This atheist finds climate change cultists, Trudeaupians, vegans, people who drone on about carbs and trans fats, atheists who think all religions are equally bad, etc to be the worst type of cultists.
Oh, and Islamists.
Everyone, should read Robert Spencer’s new book, Religion of Peace? Why Christianity is and Islam isn’t.
“It’s just another annoying thing to tolerate.”
John. How far should our tolerance be pushed? Should we tolerate protesters who hold up placards saying vile sentences such as “behead those who insult Islam”. Should we tolerate piggy banks not being issued from banks when you open an account. Should we tolerate Imams suing airlines and passengers for their concerns over dry runs on aircraft. Should we tolerate taxi drivers banning someone from their cabs because of a disability or because they have alcohol on them. Should we tolerate a billboard being erected with a terrorist on it.
I’d say that Western civilization has been pretty tolerant.
As well John, try walking into a mosque with your shoes on or with a dog and let me know how tolerant Muslims will be.
The more Muslims we allow into our once virtually Muslim-free society, the more we should expect to live with their irrational prejudices: Anti-dog, anti-alcohol, anti-pork, anti-woman, anti-clitoris, anti-gay, anti-semite, anti-Christian, anti-mom and apple pie, anti-friggin everything.
So quit complaining about it unless you’re willing to offer a realistic solution to this problem, like irwin daisy and a few other clear thinkers here have: Stop Muslim immigration now, period.
I believe in something. I believe that when you become Canadian, you become something better. You treat everyone with respect. I believe that when you become Canadian, that if you respect others, others will respect you. I believe you DO have a right to have religious beliefs, but when you become Canadian, first and foremost, you should be respectful of others.
I believe Canadians are tolerant and respectful.
The taxi driver was none of these things.
I find it deplorable.
I still think the lesbian wedding in a mosque is the way to go. There must be some right leaning lesbians who would like to push the envelope? No?
My pastor turned in his commissioners of marriage license, because he didn’t support SSM, so he couldn’t be forced to perform. If marriage commissioners are unwilling to perform SSM marriages, then they should resign.
Taxi drivers not willing to do their jobs for religious reasons ought to find another line of work. That would be a consistent approach.
BTW, is what they are saying about sharing taxi with a dog justifiable within Muslim religious beliefs. Many things, I understand, aren’t, such as the hijab, and, of course, hating and trying to kill the (Western) infidel.
Dark sunglasses, really big truck. I find this combination keeps cabies of all races and religions properly cowed and in their place. I have yet to be cut off by any cab in Toronto OR New York City (home of the kamikaze cab school of driving) while driving a pick-up truck. They fear the big iron.
I suspect getting the BCHRC called to heel will be a bit more difficult. Possibly abolishing the entire thing and firing them all out on their chair polishing butts could work?
phanty (lower case,) (or is that spelt “THUG”) do you read anything here before you “write” your “comments”?
You REALLY (UPPER CASE) give SDA and truck drivers a VERY POOR IMAGE – do you do it on purpose?
BTW, the blind guy was NOT stranded; he was delayed. And the decision was NOT from the BC Human Wrongs Commission. It is between Gilmour (“the blind guy”) and the North Vancouver taxi company; the BCHRC went along with it.
Your lack of knowledge and understanding are funny, phanty (lower case). But, you are NOT required to know what you are ranting about, so don’t worry. Don’t bother to do any research, phanty; facts will only confuse you.
FYI, the settlement was made THREE days before the BCHRC even held a hearing:
“Last Friday — three days before a B.C. human rights tribunal hearing — Gilmour reached a settlement with the taxi company that was issued as a tribunal order.”
Furthermore, the “blind guy” is giving MUSLIMS a good part of his settlement money.
“Gilmour said he will donate part of the monetary settlement to the Az-zahraa Islamic Centre in Richmond because of the help he received from Imam Syed Jaffir, who acted as an expert witness, and to B.C. Guide Dog Services. They will likely get $500 to $700 each, he said.”
“John. How far should our tolerance be pushed? Should we tolerate protesters who hold up placards saying vile sentences such as “behead those who insult Islam”.”
Sure. It’s free speech, plus we could identify an individual who we might want to keep an eye on. If he’s trouble… put him on a plane. Of course we haven’t seen this in Canada, so until we do, this isn’t an issue.
“Should we tolerate piggy banks not being issued from banks when you open an account.”
Ummmm. How’s about I don’t care? Give out an iPod, or simply don’t offer the piggy bank to the person in the hijab. Give them some towels or something.
“Should we tolerate Imams suing airlines and passengers for their concerns over dry runs on aircraft.”
Well, it if wasn’t a dry run, as the one you are referring to clearly was not, then yeah. They have a right to sue for harassment. Welcome to freedom.
“Should we tolerate taxi drivers banning someone from their cabs because of a disability or because they have alcohol on them.”
Clearly, we need to work on this, and getting pissy over Muslims isn’t a good start.
“Should we tolerate a billboard being erected with a terrorist on it.”
One man’s terrorist is another’s freedom fighter. Let em put it up, and then start talking about it. This is called “freedom of speech”.
“I’d say that Western civilization has been pretty tolerant.”
Western civilization is pretty tolerant, but no thanks to you guys.
“As well John, try walking into a mosque with your shoes on or with a dog and let me know how tolerant Muslims will be.”
Er… I wouldn’t do either of these things. Why? Because I’m not a dick.
I also wouldn’t go into a synagogue without yamika, or a church wearing a “mean people suck, nice people swallow” shirt.
“You will notice that our intolerance seems to always be connected to us being intolerant of your intolerance. See how that works?” by John
John, so you tolerate all the religions who you consider to be a pain in your ass, but you who are an atheist, thinks people do not have to tolerate you. In reality, people of religion should be calling atheists a pain in the ass. For one, people can’t have their children receive any religious guidance in public school, but evolution is shoved down every child’s throat as fact.
So, you are intolerant of others’ intolerance….talk about calling the kettle black….sorry, but you are not God and do not decide what should or should not be tolerated; especially considering you think it is okay to find people of religion to be a pain in the ass and must be tolerated……we have freedom of religion – even atheists like yourself enjoy this freedom. Fair is fair; all must abide by the laws of Canada – no preferential treatment for Muslims or anyone else: Canadians are sick of it.
JP said: “… unless you’re willing to offer a realistic solution to this problem …”
You mean like the “final solution”?
“our once virtually Muslim-free society”
There’ve been Muslims here for generations. We’ve had a mosque in Edmonton for more than 100 years. Still no problems.
For obvious (to me) reasons, I feel we need to be vigilant regarding Muslim immigration, and that there is cause for profiling. Remember, however, that many coming here are fleeing the very people we all despise. Just like numerous immigrants from other countries who’ve come here over generations.
Recently, there have been many gun incidents in Toronto involving the Black Jamaican community. Do we ban Jamaican immigration? Or Black people? How about Sikhs? There’ve been some problems there, as we all know. And the Oriental Asian gang problem, especially in Vancouver, but also in other places. Stop Asian immigration now? What’s left? White Christians only?
I understand where the hatred comes from, but much of it is misguided and misdirected. Regarding immigration, each case on it’s own merits.
The cab driver shouldn’t be able to use his strict religious interpretation in such a manner. Otherwise, he shouldn’t be allowed to transport anyone who’s been drinking, women without headscarves, people with pork in their grocery bags, etc. Clearly, he’s in the wrong line of work.
Thanks Terrence!!!
“the blind guy was NOT stranded; he was delayed. And the decision was NOT from the BC Human Wrongs Commission. It is between Gilmour (“the blind guy”) and the North Vancouver taxi company; the BCHRC went along with it.
”
“FYI, the settlement was made THREE days before the BCHRC even held a hearing:
“Last Friday — three days before a B.C. human rights tribunal hearing — Gilmour reached a settlement with the taxi company that was issued as a tribunal order.”
Furthermore, the “blind guy” is giving MUSLIMS a good part of his settlement money.
“Gilmour said he will donate part of the monetary settlement to the Az-zahraa Islamic Centre in Richmond because of the help he received from Imam Syed Jaffir, who acted as an expert witness, and to B.C. Guide Dog Services. They will likely get $500 to $700 each, he said.”
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Nothing like a good old dose of honesty, truth, and good sense!
“One man’s terrorist is another’s freedom fighter.”
Oh John, John, John, John.
Dopes say that kind of thing. Don’t be a dope.
“Sure. It’s free speech, plus we could identify an individual who we might want to keep an eye on. If he’s trouble… put him on a plane. Of course we haven’t seen this in Canada, so until we do, this isn’t an issue.”
We weren’t talking about Canada, we were talking about western civilization. Try to stay on topic John, we know “you guys” like to evade such things. In Canada, we only see such things like a plot to behead the PM, but I digress.
“Western civilization is pretty tolerant, but no thanks to you guys.”
Who are “you guys”? Do you mean western civilization? Sorry for us not wanting to bow down to Islam.
“Ummmm. How’s about I don’t care? Give out an iPod, or simply don’t offer the piggy bank to the person in the hijab. Give them some towels or something.”
You don’t care? That figures. Why does an institution that has always given out piggy banks, refuse to do so now. I wonder who complained hmmm…Someone intolerable I guess.
“Well, it if wasn’t a dry run, as the one you are referring to clearly was not, then yeah. They have a right to sue for harassment. Welcome to freedom”
Only in your brain it wasn’t John. How much do you want to bet that the lawsuit is dropped? We’ll talk later on that one John.
“Clearly, we need to work on this, and getting pissy over Muslims isn’t a good start.”
Pissy are we? Who’s showing his intolerance now.
“One man’s terrorist is another’s freedom fighter.”
If that isn’t the lefty’s new catch phrase, I don’t know what is. You do know which billboard I’m talking about and who was on it, do you. Pick up a paper John, or do you support the eradication of Jews.
“Western civilization is pretty tolerant, but no thanks to you guys.”
Who is this we that you keep shrieking about? Is it right wingers John, is that who you’re referring to?
“Er… I wouldn’t do either of these things. Why? Because I’m not a dick.”
You haven’t convinced me…
“It is all the polices of the left that the muslims hate us most for”
Like the invasion of Iraq? Logical contortions are routine here but you get the yoga master of the day award.
terr-[Lower Case]-ence, my dear ‘tard:
A)I didn’t say I cut off cabs, I said they don’t cut me off. At all. Ever. Because they fear the Big Iron. And that’s really saying something in NYC, because cabbies drive like drunken, suicidal apes down there. Please note this is a blanket condemnation of -all- NYC cab drivers, not just immigrants and/or non-Christians.
B)As someone else mentioned up above, how is it reasonable that the cab company has to fork out for their driver’s illegal decision? As in, against the law. As in, if I did that they’d fine the crap out of me.
C)A private agreement between the blind guy and the cab company is irrelevant to the BCHRC decision. They created a special case where Muslim cab drivers are allowed to refuse service to at-risk disabled people with companion animals.
D)The nice blind man is obviously a generous person, if misguided.
E)If I were him I’d get a seeing-eye bear and let the next SOB try and make me wait.
Thanks for playing, don’t let the door hit your butt on your way out.
“For one, people can’t have their children receive any religious guidance in public school, but evolution is shoved down every child’s throat as fact.”
Oh boy. Look, nothing I tell you is going to convince you that evolution is fact, but sorry… it is. All our physical sciences tell us so. Nothing ever discovered has ever proven otherwise… it just keeps expanding our understanding. This is why it’s forced down every child’s throat, because it is knowledge.
Religion is not knowledge… it is belief, and if it must be taught… let parents teach it. Frankly we’d be better off without it. I don’t need fear of burning to be a good person.
“Fair is fair; all must abide by the laws of Canada – no preferential treatment for Muslims or anyone else: Canadians are sick of it.”
So then, the Christian printer mentioned by Mark Steyn should have been fined for turning down the gay literature?
In order for justice to be blind, you have to allow that the country of Canada has laws that everybody has an obligation to keep. Let’s for the purpose of this post leave out the bottom feeders. If whomever comes to this country, they have an obligation to keep the their conduct according to the current law. The human rights tribunals are anomaly in a free and decent society, it is quite beyond belief that they exist in Canada, in spite of these useless fine people with their made up titles that supposedly ‘serve’ on them. The term of ‘serve’ is used in this context very, very loosely.
So far as religion goes, I gather that most of us are resigned to the position that that part of your life is yours and no one else’s, I’m not quite sure, if there is a freedom of religion and freedom from religion in this country. Therefore the ‘human’ rights commission, the state; the province has no say in it, it is your own business. How is it then, that this ‘human’ rights commission is meddling in matters that are none, zero, of their concerns. Could it be that in order to make some cold hard cash, they come up with stuff that will help them to get some. As far as this situation is, really it is clear that it is the money for the case they are after, otherwise they have no case.
There is a law, I assume, that says that you can’t discriminate what ever your pork is, it is a flawed law, nonetheless it is the law.
Every person on this earth has bias, otherwise we would live in anarchy and mayhem, it is a natural human condition, and also it is a valid one, regardless of what the ‘human’ rights commission is chasing.
It would help world more if they did away with this unaccountable fascist type of group.
“It would help world more if they did away with this unaccountable fascist type of group.”
The human rights commission is designed to step in as a last resort, and determine if your rights under the constitution have been violated.
People seem to think that our civilization is collapsing, when in fact it’s never been so healthy. Of course… the people who tend to believe this also think a god created the world in seven days, and that you can dump billions of tonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere without any consequences.
Drat reality with its leftwing bias!
Jimbo,
The mosque in Edmonton that you refer to is the Al Rashid mosque, built in 1938, making it 69 years old. It is indeed the oldest mosque in the country, built when the Muslim population of Canada was all of 700 people.
As late as 1971, the Muslim population of Canada was 33,000, or barely one-tenth of one percent of the total population. In 2001, the Muslim population had skyrocketed to 580,000, about half of whom had immigrated since 1991.
As you can see, our society was until very recently virtually Muslim-free. Exactly what benefit have these hundreds of thousands of Muslim newcomers brought to Canada? And is it in our national interest to import millions more? I say no, stop Muslim immigration now.
phanty (lower case)
You sure spend a lot time and pixels on SDA. Perhaps, if you had a reader and a commenter you would be busy on your own blogg. But, you are often over here. It must be lonely and discouraging having a blogg that no one bothers with, so you are reduced to posting your uniformed, thuggish comments on some else’s blogg. Perhaps if you read what others wrote and did some research, (can you spell Google?) your rants would not be so uninformed and funny.
Just to let you know, I verified that you do have a blogg (so if your stats are really, really up today, it was because I followed the link.). You can be sure that I will never waste any more of my time on your blogg; regardless of your comments here.