What do “Meat” and Dr. Allan Gore Have In Common

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A lot actually …

The price of meat is set to rise in America as the nation’s helter-skelter dash to convert corn into road fuel begins to take its toll on the supply of food.
The US Department of Agriculture has said that meat supply will fall this year because of the high cost of feed. Output of beef, pork and chicken is expected to decline by one billion pounds as farmers react to the soaring cost of feeding their livestock.

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51 Replies to “What do “Meat” and Dr. Allan Gore Have In Common”

  3. Everything is going according to “Uncle Mo’s” plans.
    Next will be air-conditioning and suburban housing, Just like soviet Russia, everyone will be on a list for their very own box without air conditioning, in high rise apartments to minimize the footprint on the landscape. Of course “Uncle Mo” and his friends will be exempt.
    http://sovereignty.freedom.org/p/sd/strong.html
    He told the opening session of the Rio Conference (Earth Summit II) in 1992:
    It is clear that current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class — involving high meat intake, … — are not sustainable.

  5. The vegans will be happy. How many jobs will be lost, packing plants, slaughter houses, truckers, butchers and then there is the administration staff of all of the above businesses and the unions. Turning food into fuel is the stupidest idea ever. No one will have jobs to go to in all those cars using food for fuel.

  6. Just when I think that it cant get any stupider,it does.As for the McClelland post,Harper has to cater to the crazies once in a while as they usually vote Liberal where they fit right in.

  7. While making an infinitesimal mark on anthropogenic warming, the biofuel movement is having a significant and damaging effect on the environment. Pristine tropical forests in South American and Southeast Asia are being clearcut to grow crops devoted to biofuels.
    This week in my local paper, it was reported that a credit union will give a $1 million grant to a group that educates young people about Global Warming. The loser in the selection process was a hospice for elderly patients in pain. The audience cheered when the decision was announced.
    Anthropogenic GW has for all intents and purposes become a religion.

  8. Robert McClelland
    “biofuel initiatives”
    Can’t remember where I read it recently, but if the US wanted to supply it’s own ethanol needs, about 70% of arable land would have to be devoted to the production of crops for that purpose. That would leave 30% of arable land for the production of food, drastically reducing the food supply would dramatically increase the price. Who do you think would suffer the most? The difference in the amount of CO2 produced between the use of gasoline and ethanol is almost negligible. They apparently haven’t solved the problem on Mars or Jupiter either, as both planets are showing signs of global warming. I would like to know when they sent those gas guzzling, CO2 “polluting” SUV’s there to produce that global warming??
    Anyone?
    Anyone?

  9. I hate to sound like an environmentalist, but I think we should switch over to electric cars as soon as we can. Bio fuels and hydrogen power are a crock. Build nuclear power plants to generate the extra electricity and stop importing oil from the Arabs. Without the cash they won’t be able to fund attacks against us.

  10. Meat is not the only thing that will rise. As the price of corn goes up many farmers will switch to corn from other crops. This will cause all other crops to rise in price as well. Many of these crops are inputs into other foods they will also rise. Ironically as the price of corn rises the ethonal producers are seeing their profits fall to almost nill.

  11. Belisarius said: “Build nuclear power plants”
    Shazam!
    …-
    G7 ministers give nuclear energy a nod
    WASHINGTON (AFP) – Finance chiefs from the G7 industrialized countries have endorsed nuclear energy, an increasingly attractive power source as governments confront global warming and over-dependence on fossil fuels.
    The Group of Seven, following a meeting here Friday, described energy diversification as an important priority for both rich and poor nations.
    “Diversification can include advanced energy technologies such as renewable, nuclear and clean coal,” said the ministers and central bank governors from Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the United States.
    The group at previous meetings had been unable to agree on a text citing nuclear power, notably in the face of opposition from Germany.
    But a steady rise in oil prices, from less than 30 dollars a barrel in April 2003 to nearly 80 dollars last year, as well as increased energy nationalism in producers such as Russia, Venezuela and Iran have managed to change minds.
    France, which has long advocated the adoption of an international nuclear power program as a “clean” alternative to fossil fuels, hailed the G7’s latest initiative.
    French Finance Minister Thierry Breton said he had put “a lot of energy” into getting the G7 to include “nuclear” among potential alternative power sources.
    “It wasn’t my first attempt but it was the first time it was unanimously accepted,” he said.
    France gets 78 percent of its electricity production from nuclear sources, against an average of just 16 percent worldwide and 32 percent in Europe, and is home to several major nuclear energy companies, such as Areva. …-
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1817600/posts

  14. Eco-lunatics on this eco-lunacy site.
    Lady Godiva rides bareback, Kemo Sabay? Snughy, Tonto.
    Da proof is da proof: is her “red-green shirt on”? …-
    “Ms. Penn, a well-known eco-activist, author and media personality who once portrayed Lady Godiva in a protest in downtown Vancouver, said she is running for the Liberals “with my green shirt on” as part of an unofficial Liberal/Green alliance she sees developing across the country.”
    Seeing red on the Ides of March
    Hello,
    we all know the following character well in our riding. What do you think? Are you seeing an “unofficial red green alliance” developing across the country? Is a grasp for power with the Liberals really the way to go when they have such a long and bankrupt history on Green and social issues?
    Many Greens, and NDP as well probably, are totally baffled. Some unfortunately seem to be buying it.
    Andrew.
    Noted Green activist goes red
    Environmentalist Briony Penn climbs out on a limb with the Liberals
    SID TAFLER
    VICTORIA — Briony Penn, a leading light of the environmental movement on the West Coast, has announced her candidacy for the Liberal Party in the next federal election. […]
    Her decision to join the Liberals and resign from the Green Party, which she has supported for more than a decade, will likely enhance Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion’s reputation as a champion of the environment but bitterly disappoint Greens loyal to Leader Elizabeth May. […]
    “The Earth is crumbling, we’ve got to get solutions in place right away,” Ms. Penn said from her home on Saltspring Island. […]
    “It nearly broke my heart” to leave the Greens, Ms. Penn said. “But we can’t wait around for proportional representation and a national leader capable of being in government.”
    But she still supports the Green cause and intends to maintain her membership in the provincial party.
    And she’s hoping that Ms. May and other Greens are elected federally, if voters in the “Red/Green alliance” choose the best candidates in each riding regardless of political affiliation.[…]
    http://www.greenparty.ca/en/node/960

  16. Actually Robbie: YES!
    Then why aren’t you on Harper’s case about it instead of Gore’s–who, last time I checked had nothing what-so-ever to do with our government. Biofuels are a poor environmental intiative to begin with–that the NDP doesn’t really support–and are basically nothing more than a giant handout to corporate agribiz.

  17. Belisarius at 2:12 PM, said
    **I hate to sound like an environmentalist, but I think we should switch over to electric cars as soon as we can. Bio fuels and hydrogen power are a crock. Build nuclear power plants to generate the extra electricity and stop importing oil from the Arabs. Without the cash they won’t be able to fund attacks against us.**
    ======== Bingo, It*s that simple, that clear.
    Bio fuels and hydrogen [except for central HD govt. fleets like public transit], is a crock.
    Hydrogen cars at a Million$ each. That*s why I laugh at Gordon*s hydrogen highway to the olympics. Who is going to build depots that store hydrogen at 5,000 PSI for million dollar autos and require engineer pump jocks?
    Hybrids and EVs are here today and selling well. The three winners that qualify for the big rebate at: TonyGuitar.blogspot.com = TG
    BTW, the real enviro move that would make a difference is *Clean Coal Tech* that we could export or encourage for China, India, Russia and the USA for thousands of dirty CoalGen plants. Don*t see much mention of this from the noisemaker committees?
    Did you know Prius sells for 15k to 22k in Washington state?
    Google Toyota = TG

  19. What do “meat and Dr. Al Gore have in common?”
    Funny you should ask, isn’t it obvious he’s A MEAT HEAD?

  21. Canada needs to repudiate and cancel it’s signature on the Kyoto agreement. In short, pull out of the agreement.

  22. Finally!!! We have a Lefty admitting what the Bush administration does has “nothing what-so-ever to do with our government”.
    WOW.

  23. At the moment it takes 1.5 litres of diesel to produce 1 litre of bio-diesel. or so I have heard.

  24. I am convinced solid state super quick charge battery technology ala pheonix electric cars will revolutionze the energy industry within 20 years.when you plug in the new technology around super safe and cost effective nuclear power the rags heads will be of our backs much more quickly than most people currently believe.

  25. I was quite taken with the “trees are bad” article. Of course former farmland in New England and elsewhere (I was surprised on my last visit to the Netherlands to find some former polder land – the Uithof in Utrecht – to be heavily treed) has become forest – contrary to what enviro-eco-nuts think, trees are aggressive and can take out any wooden structure in a generation. Why, in their own way, trees are more aggressive than elephants! Reforestation will quite likely be reversed, if corn prices rise sufficiently, or meat prices – I suppose that many of the old New England farms were mixed.
    All very curious. The best reason to use as much non-petroleum-based fuel is a simple one – it’s called the “Strait of Hormuz”. Nothing to do with the envirronment.
    I wonder at what point it will become evident to all except the terminally insane that we need nuclear reactors, including brreeder reactor technology.

  26. Robbie: I am …
    Maybe you are cjunk, maybe you’re not. Your fellow travelers most certainly are not.

  27. will corn prices drop as more acreage come online?
    The answer is NO most of the agricultural land that is sitting idle is not as fertile and will not produce as much corn per acre. The problem is actually probably going to get much worse as currently only about 40% of the corn is going to ethanol. If all the plants that are currently planed are built that number may rise close to 80% to replace less than 10% of the US oil use. The latest I read is that ethonal is currently energy neutral. It uses as much energy to produce as it generates.

  28. Sabu: I think that my “fellow travelers” are aware, as am I, that Mr. Harper has a minority government in a largely socialist House. My fellow travelers are pragmatic, and democratic, and they understand that Mr. Harper has neither the votes nor the mandate to do much more than he is doing now … wait until the upcoming majority conservative government … there may be room for a bit more … and I expect my fellow travelers will expect more then.
    Mr. Harper is being held hostage to the eco-loones, simply because a majority of this country votes left … for now.
    Climate Change is a fad, it’ll die though as soon as eco-phobes have to put their money where their mouths are; and the profiteers like Dr. Gore will die with it.
    Along with global cooling, ozone depletion, population bomb, and silent spring … Global Warming phobias will die only to be replaced by some other eco-fad. Been there … done that. In the mean time, Mr. Harper will do what he can, and that means being responsible when he has a minority; and responsible when he has a majority.
    Clean air is everyone’s desire … I would think.

  29. In many parts of Western Canada the fuel-grain of choice is barley because the season is too short for corn … it’s the main cattle and hog feed crop out west. Whether corn or barley or some grasses, the article makes it clear that high prices are making raising cattle, pigs, and chickens unprofitable. There is no more land to convert … marginal land is only good for cows. And, those nice steaks you like must come from a bovine that’s been “finished” in a feed-lot, which uses corn or barley meal.
    It’s simple … with so much demand for corn and barley because of bio-fuels, farmers can never fill the demand and the market will drive prices up; permenantly. That means incredibly high priced meat; but no more profit for livestock farmers.
    Just wait until malt barley goes up … beer will cost a fortune … now that should get the eco-phobes attention 🙂

  30. By the way guess what most of the artificial sweeteners for things like soft drinks are made from.

  31. Profiteering is hard to take at any time, doing it without questioning it is beyond all tolerating.
    These people will eventually have to come clean, we know it will then be nothing more than an “honest mistake”. They won’t admit what it was,the prevailing winds of flawed opinion from junk science, which we who bother to question, suspected from the start.

  32. It’s actually ALBERT Gore. Apparently, he hates the name.
    So please, be sure to refer to him as ALBERT!

  34. Biofuel has everything to do with agribusiness and very little to do with curbing global warming. It’s simply not a viable alternative energy source.

  35. The main post is concerned with the conversion of corn to ethanol in the US driving up the price of feed and hence meat. That may be bothersome to American (and Canadian) consumers, but a serious increase in the price of corn could be disastrous for the typical Mexican, to whom corn is not a feed crop for animals, but an absolutely vital staple of the diet.
    Most of their meals are centred on corn-based products, such as tortillas, enchiladas (you know the drill). So a shortage of corn due to increased prices doesn’t mean a simple change in diet from steaks to chicken or fish – it could mean going hungry.
    If the US has concerns about the Mexican population now, just wait until this takes effect.

  37. First you claim that you’re on Harper’s case (Robbie: I am .), then act as apologist for Harper’s biofuels initiatives. (Mr. Harper is being held hostage to the eco-loones, simply because a majority of this country votes left … ) Quite a contradiction.
    Are you saying, BTW, that Harper has a hidden agenda that requires a majority to fulfill? Do tell.

  38. I love how the text in the second “click” maintains the fiction that the U.S. “pulled out” of Kyoto. We never RATIFIED it. The Senate, in a rare moment of bipartisan sanity, sent a 95-0 resolution to Clinton telling him not to bother.
    What’s even funnier is Kerry in the debates using Kyoto as an example of a treaty that Bush had “abrogated” — a treaty that was never ratified and in the PREVIOUS administration!

  39. Sabu: Apologist??? actually “realist”. There is no majority, it’s a socialist House … so what do you expect?
    “Hidden Agenda”, I was laughing to myself when I wrote that, thinking that that’s exactly what you’d say … so predictable … yawn. But yes shamu, I’m sure things will be different when we get the big M … we will invade Toronto, kill all the commies, bomb the UN, and convert the rest to Christianity.
    Sweet Dreams!

  41. Hey, junk, you said you were on Harper’s case, when you obviously are not. That doesn’t make you a realist. It makes you a liar.

  44. Cjunk,
    You mention *Hidden Agenda*.
    Is that like when some outfit such as Chevron, hides behind a name like *Cobasys* batteries and uses *Patent Power* to block any other battery maker from production of NiNH batteries larger than 10ah? Sued Panasonic Battery and won.
    Might cut into gas sales, eh?
    TonyGuitar.blogspot.com
    The Rav4-EV batteries were 95ah. The original Rav4-EV sold for about 30k. Recent sale used on Ebay for $65,000. = TG

  45. something i read about batteries, canada, mine and smelt zinc,ship to wales to refine, ship to china for more work, ship to battery factory in japan, ship battery well you do know how cost effective and eviromentally sound the greens must think this is. replace 8,000 dollar battery in your car every 6 to 8 years dispose of battery.

  46. Shamu: You have no idea what I write to my MP or others in government; or say in conversation … so relax. They know full well that if they get a majority, millions of conservatives will be watching … very closely. For now, we are realists … and you are … well … we’ll just skip that.

  47. JMorrison,
    That*s quite interesting, about the transshipment of Canada*s basic resources for added value in low labour cost countries.
    You will not be replacing your EV battery every 6 to 8 years however. You will trade it in some time after that.
    8 and ten years are the warranty periods for the Ford Escape Hybrid battery and system. And that is in print at their website and in brochure, or find it easily at my website;
    TonyGuitar.blogspot.com = TG

  48. I am not a Ford man normally, but it sure looks as though Ford is trying harder.
    You wouldn*t believe what you get in the Ford hybrid for about 25k = TG

  49. And then the jerks at PETA will be urging us to all bcome vegatarians knowing that PETA are abunch of jerks so stupid they would make a metaly retarded person look like a genius

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