“Or that they don’t buy it? If we’re looking at gondolas floating down Wall Street in 20 years, what good does it do to plant some trees? Are they from Krypton or something?
“And you’re not even planting them yourself, you’re buying ‘carbon offsets’ from somebody who tells you they’re being planted so you can feel better about yourself. Where are these trees being planted? By whom? How long will it take for these miraculous fast-growing trees to counteract your wastefulness? Hurry!”
(Personally, I want to be on the same side as the guy who wrote this (warning: extremely rude & offensive in every possible way, shape and form), right or wrong, rather than that of boring old Suzuki.)

Carbon-offsets naturally offset the left’s failed arguments…
I think the end times just got bumped up a couple months with that one !!! LOL !!!
If your goin to hell might as well do it in style!
Whoah, this is OT, but potentially politically Earth Shattering.
Dion did a backroom deal to kill the Anti-terror legislation in exchange for critical votes at the leadership convention?
Angry’s got it here:
http://stevejanke.com/archives/217160.php
Carbon credits
So its kinda like the guy in the Italian mafia who goes to his catholic church every sunday, puts a hundred bucks in the plate as its being passed around, goes off after into the little box ta have a chat wit da oliness and buda bing buda boom, all of last weeks wackings have been wipe clean off the slate, foregiven cause he paid his dues to da choych.
You can drive your SUV all you want, just don’t forget to pay when the Goreackle passes da plate.
Save the planet….boycott hollywood.
As well, who’s to say, even if the 3rd world projects are legit, that the “carbon offsets” don’t get sold more than once? How is that being tracked?
The Goracle of faux Pasha.
CBCpravda – All liberal , All of the time.
would like to report that its a jihad free for all.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/02/27/terror-vote.html
“the piples of Can adda woot be free to do az dey plis and not terrors woot befall dem wis dis bill” BORAT DION
sorry wrong thread on above post .
the best way to store carbon is plant fast growing forests , cut them down , put them all in underground caves and seal with cement . All forests have a recycle into the carbon cycle of less than 50 years and in the case of deciduous forests , a partial recycle ever 6 months. WTF are the looney left lackeys thinking?
MORE IREVERANT INCONVENIENT TRUTHS
THERE are more trees in North America than 30 years ago (some of this may be gradual recovery from large burns that Plains Indians did to increase buffalo habitat).
THERE are more trees in Africa than 100 years ago. This may be caused by a rebound from deforestation. Africa had a larger population, then gradually a smaller population, as the slave trade increased. Abandoned farms went back to forest.
Need a readers tips link maybe??? Anyone catch start of that crapppola The Hour tonite?I wasn’t fast enough changing channels..happened to see Dion on stage with Georgie.George gave him bottle of wine,a flunkie ran in,put blanket over Dion’s shoulders.dion asked”what’s this?” George cracks a real funny…leans over,stage-whispers,”it’s the media Liberal bias!” HA HA ! And this is how pathetic my life is..I kept score tonite,watching 22 min.Final tally..PMSH/Con slams-8..Lib.slams-0,with the obligatory few Bush slams thrown in.They closed the show,with msg.to Peter McKay..”hey Peter,Toronto is the place they always hated you..Halifax is just starting to..G’nite”…referring to the “arse-lickers of Satan incident.God,I wish Bev Oda,and PMSH would just walk in to cbc,and start turfing these boneheads.
Liberals about to roll out the Trojan Horse of Hydro borrowing
VICTORIA – The B.C. Liberals are preparing to lift a two-decades-old limit on borrowing at BC Hydro, freeing the giant utility to undertake hundreds of millions of dollars worth of new projects.
No link to the Vancouver Sun. They want cash$.
Guess we are about to take on the debt of Gordon*s second monument after the olympics, . . . the massive Site C dam.
Only my suspicion. Better than carbon credits anyway. = TG
While I respect your decision, I cannot in good conscience agree with it.
Spending billions of dollars buying and selling nothing. Yup…….we have gone nuts.
I’m going green. Gonna start a mail order business to help the dimmies with their carbon conscience. I’m going to market a bulletproof, CO2-offseting, oxygen producing, fast growing renewable specimen. Anybody want to buy a Dandelion? (not cheap) S&H extra. Valid only where carbon credits are sold.
“no ‘meaningful’ debate” – yup, got that right. Meaningful debaters had their funding cut a long time ago.
Based on the latest science I have concluded that global warming is closely tied to the seal hunt.
Seal hunt banned. Seal population explodes.
Climate change becomes front page news. Seals expelling CO2 with every breath they take. Oceans warming. Cod stocks disappear.
Solution?
Club a seal.
Save the planet.
Let the good times roll.
Why the hell is Canada’s most popular blog, not even mentioning the Dion Deal to sell off our security???????
Green Liturgy
Priest: Heghlu’meH QaQ jajvam.
Response: HISlaH.
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Alien technology the best hope to ‘save our planet:’ ex-defence boss
Governments must reveal what they know, says Paul Hellyer
Chris Lackner, The Ottawa Citizen
Published: Wednesday, February 28, 2007
A former Canadian defence minister says be believes advanced technology from extraterrestrial civilizations offers the best hope to “save our planet” from the perils of climate change.
Paul Hellyer, 83, is calling for a public disclosure of alien technology obtained during alleged UFO crashes — such as the mysterious 1947 incident in Roswell, New Mexico — because he believes alien species can provide humanity with a viable alternative to fossil fuels.
Mr. Hellyer has been a public UFO advocate since September 2005 when he spoke at a symposium in Toronto. But with concern over global warming at an all-time high, and Canadian political parties struggling to out-green one another, Mr. Hellyer said governments and the military have a responsibility to “come clean on what they know” now more than ever.
“Climate change is the No. 1 problem facing the world today,” he said. “I’m not discouraging anyone from being green conscious, but I would like to see what (alien) technology there might be that could eliminate the burning of fossil fuels within a generation … that could be a way to save our planet.” …-
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=3e57926c-bfeb-4ff3-acf6-50c575ee996c
Geez, Maz2, you beat me to it!
EARTH FIRST !!
We’ll log the other planets later.
Hey, I saw that you had mentioned offsets and I wanted to let you know that there is a new report published this last week on the offsets industry, The Carbon Neutral Myth – Offset Indulgences for your Climate Sins. Free download from http://www.tni.org
Carbon offsets are the modern day indulgences, sold to an increasingly carbon conscious public to absolve their climate sins. Scratch the surface, however, and a disturbing picture emerges, where creative accountancy and elaborate shell games cover up the impossibility of verifying genuine climate change benefits, and where communities in the South often have little choice as offset projects are inflicted on them.
This report argues that offsets place disproportionate emphasis on individual lifestyles and carbon footprints, distracting attention from the wider, systemic changes and collective political action that needs to be taken to tackle climate change. Promoting more effective and empowering approaches involves moving away from the marketing gimmicks, celebrity endorsements, technological quick fixes, and the North/South exploitation that the carbon offsets industry embodies.
” My shit don’t stink because I have the cash ( from Occidental oil investment liquidation) to buy magic perfume” – Al Gore – Acadamy Awards speech
” I AM a green warlock, now get off my case or Ill turn your pee-pee into a negative carbon credit” -Al Gore to Drudge Report
Mao Stlong say: Send your indulgence $$$$$ to China. Mao has it wrong: There is no yang; it’s all yin. …-
The dark side of China’s economic boom
By BOB MACKIN — Sun Media
VANCOUVER — Mainland China is but a rumour on the other side of Sham Chun River as thick smog envelops the skyline of border city Shenzhen.
This is the 21st century version of the Great Wall and Hong Kong’s secretary of environment Dr. Sarah Liao wants to knock it down. It’s a threat to public health and tourism in the dynamic former British colony that 200,000 Canadians call home.
“A lot of industries have moved north, so we should be partly responsible,” said Liao, a Hong Kong-educated scientist.
There are 60,000 Hong Kong-owned factories across the border in Guangdong province, where property and labour are both cheap. The “workshop of the world” is energized mainly by coal-fired power plants and is blamed for 80 per cent of Hong Kong’s bad air. China, deemed a developing market and excused from the Kyoto Accord, is the world’s second-biggest air polluter after the United States and could take top spot in carbon dioxide emissions by 2010. …-
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Features/2007/02/28/3676959-sun.html
James Lileks is rather good on this today:
http://jewishworldreview.com/0207/lileks022807.php3
My grandsons car has been sitting by the garage for 4 months due to need for new engine. Can he sell some carbon credits.
“I got your Allah right here,”
Conscience or un, I CAN agree with Jim Treacher and the Pope.
Get Suzuki’s charitable status revoked!
http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Columnists/Corbella_Licia/2007/02/28/3675840.html
Call the number at the end of the story and get the ball rolling!
The more people who complain, the more the feds will be pushed to act.
Looks pretty grim when China and India have thousands of coal fired generator plants and are speeding up the construction of more.
Clean Coal technology would be the best export Canada could promote, but I*m not going to hold my breath.
Unless there is a direct connection to winning federal elections, there seems to be little hope for Clean Coal Tech. = TG
Calgary just passed there anti smoking bylaw. Now if the aldermen we pay to run our city were on the ball they could have saved all the fighting between exempt establishments and those that must comply. I suggest that the bar owners who feel they are going to lose a significant amount of business due to the smoking ban strike up a deal with the churches around town to buy clean air credits. Just like magic the anti smoking problem is solved. You gotta hand it to uncle Mo hes got this unclean air scam covered four ways from Tuesday.
New Giuseppe Verdi* opera: Passa da CO2: Alfonso Gagliano and Mao Strong are sending indulgences worth 100 millions of lira, via the Club of Rome. When Stromboli plays, the greenies run for cover. …-
Italy’s Stromboli Volcano Activity Not of Concern: Purchase of Carbon Offsets Undetermined?
RTE News ^ | 28 February 2007 | RTE News
Fresh lava spills on the Stromboli volcano north of Sicily have been described as not cause for concern. The volcanic activity began yesterday when three new ‘mouths’, or cracks, opened on the flanks of the volcano. The cracks are about 500 metres up, and are allowing very fluid lava to escape down the slopes to the sea. A state of emergency was declared on the island yesterday, and its 400 residents were warned that the volcanic activity could cause tidal waves. Stromboli, which attracts up to 6,000 tourists every year, had recently been placed under heightened surveillance after scientists registered…-
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1792750/posts
*Joe Green, of course.
AlGore owns a carbon credit company. When he buys his credits he is buying from himself.
Keep up the pressure on rev canada to revoke DS charity licence. Also, let your MP know of your complaints and if any action is taken. If you don’t have a redial button, forget it unless you want a very sore finger. I do think the carbon credit scam is being exposed for what it is. Thanks to DS and algore. Wonder if they realized they would be under such scrutiny by the general public.
AL GORE and the eco green weenies want to slap a big time tax on everyone that drives a SUV. How about slapping a big HOT AIR TAX on them instead like making AL GORE pay taxes everytime he opned his big fat piehole and make GREENPEACE and the rest of the tree hugger eco-freak community pay taxes evrytime they went out in those goofy boats with those rediclous sails on them
What ever became of that eco-frak dip-wad JULIA(BUTTERFLY)HILL you dont hear about this ding bat anymore
How long before the $25 and $50 BA and BSC diploma sellers begin to offer us $1000 and $5000 Carbon Credit Certificates for $20, $50 and $99.95 ?
Keep an eye on your spam Email. = TG
The comment in para 2 by KShaidle reminds me of an early-60’s scandal–Billie Sol Estes and his tanks of oil (there were lots of tanks; there weren’t much oil).
He Promised there was oil in them thar tanks. Somebody’s Promising they’re gonna plant them trees and offset them carbons. I bet they’ll have pictures of them trees, too.
Vancouver*s Jack Diamond, owner of Vancouver*s horse racing at Exhibition Park and owner of West Coast Reduction, said, *there is no whale oil in them tanks.*
There was however. = TG