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I had forgotten just how bad that really was….doesnt get better with age.
I thought it was great!
So Americana!
Better than Babel.
I’m still not wasting 5 hours by watching it, even though the movies nominated this year are actually worth watching…
What year was that? Quite a collection of some people who are now dead. It was cheesy as hell but still fun to watch.
My estimate 1982-86 timeframe, bacause of Rob Lowe..
Typical Hollywood liberal rip-off. No Trigger. No Bullet. No Gabby Hayes or his sidekick, Gene Autry…. you know, the guy with the scruffy beard. Rode around on Champ and sang that stupid Rudolph song. And that high-kicking chorus line wearing all those clothes. I think Heaven’s Gate won the Best Picture that year. They can all go to hell.
I actually remember that one because it was the last Academy Awards I ever bothered to sit down for. Rob Lowe putting the moves on Snow White was just too creepy and critics have since called that one of the low points of the Oscars. Lowe had been booked cheap by the Academy people because it was within a year of his video sex scandal with a minor and within two years of his trying to play junior statesman at the Democratic National Convention. The scandal was still fresh on people’s minds. Lowe hadn’t succeeded in his comeback yet, and plenty of folks were joking over whether a strange tape of him and Snow White might surface later. Dukakis had been nominated at the convention that Lowe appeared at, so this Oscar Night would be late 1980s/early 1990s.
I just have to comment on Gore and DiCaprio and the fact that it makes me throw up a little in my mouth every time I hear Gore talk (and DiCaprio for that matter).
DiCaprio made the comment that the motion picture industry makes it a point to be very proactive in social causes that help humanity. I find that quite a nauseating statement considering they have no problem promoting violence, smut and virtually every other denigrate activity – and somehow they are our collective social conscience for the betterment of our being (?). I think DiCaprio might have to check himself in to one of those weekend rehab ‘thingies’ cause whatever he’s smoking is hindering his rationale thought process.
To all actors, you sometimes make good films (sometimes), but your personal lives suck. Keep your own thoughts to yourselves.
Let me be first to predict that Algore will win for best science fiction…on no, wait, that’s not a category, is it? OK, best “documentary”.
And then he’ll thank Hollywood for being so supportive of “sustainable” solutions to save our plant…
And then later, those in Hollywood will, feeling so very altrustic, climb back into their limos, SUVs and private jets…
Gore wins…gag
Unsurprisingly, the gilded screen writers continue their efforts to poison the truth with their celebration of false propaganda, violence, and gore. Fortunately, I have found an antidote to the poison: youtube.com/watch?v=2IwJmLNaCP4
The Dead Celeb Montage is always fun – whichever one gets the most applause, I boo!
The Oscars are an annual reminder that popular culture is trash.
Here’s some more Gore antidote from the always great Mark Steyn: The Reverand Al
Stop going to the socially correct films, they will feel it in their wallets soon enough.
I’m still waiting for Hollywood to take up the anti-smoking cause.
hollywood claimed a minimal environmental footprint, did that include Travolta flying in his personal 707? or what did it take to lift Al Bores fat butt into the air? or when did Jack Nicholson sit on an airhose?
did you see all the metal foil dropped from the ceiling. two faced hypocrites to a member.
And they picked frigging Happy Feet over Cars in the animated feature category? Cars was so much better than that mo-cap penguin mishmash. I would really love to hear these people explain themselves.
You really have to wonder how some of these folks say things with a straight face. The Greenest Academy Awards ever? I dont recall seeing anyone arrive in electrical cars. Or hybrids for that matter.
A quick cross-check into IMDB shows that the clipis from the 61st Academy Awards in 1989. Crickey, they were doing cheesey openings that recently?!?!
Im glad to see Mr Whitaker took the nod for the bio of Amin and Ms Mirren for her portrayal of QE II.
I may now actually watch the films.
most of what gets pumped out of hollywood resembles recycled drek because thats what it is.
Am I the only one nauseated by the sight of so many Hollywood hypocrites and their moral preening on “global warming”?
If these retard fools really believed that crap how come they don’t downsize the 20,000sq/ft mansion down the 2,000sq/ft home?
How come they don’t downsize the “entourage’s” fleet of Caddy escalades to a city bus?
How come they don’t trade in the Gulfstream to fly cattle class with the rest of us? Or teleconference the next award ceremony instead?
In other words, why don’t these people seem to know that if you want any credibility at all on any issue, it’s best to LEAD BY EXAMPLE!!! It only makes you look like a selfish, snot-nose bastard to demand that OTHER PEOPLE pay for your cause. That’s especially true when it’s multi-millionaires and billionaires that want the poor and middle class to do the paying.
These people make me nauseous.
If the left coast didn’t have the preening of each other’s egos to do, what would they have left to entertain their time?
Remember, We..The..People enable them by giving them our dollars. If we didn’t give, they wouldn’t exist. That makes us enablers.
Certainly isn’t the venue for sincerity or reality is it? I shudder to think the people who conceive of such hollow narcissism have a national stage to carry political messaging.
Joe McCarthy was only half right about Hollyweird…it may have been a hot bed of former communists peddling their deconstructionist messaging subtly in the film media but it is also a cult of narcissism which assumes their superfical and cloistered inbred distorted world view is representative of middle America….to produce art you have to have first hand experiences with the subject matter and I doubt the snall cabal who decide what stories are written and filmed have ever had the worldly experiences needed to portray human/worldly relaities in film.
Frankly I think that after exposure to Hollyweid surrealism in pop culture for so may years we are actually cynical towards its output and see it for what it always was…the capital of poor taste and intellectual vacancy.
With the billions of dollars and prolific output of Hollywood there are less than 3 films a year that actually have artistic merit and have the stuff of a Hemmingway or Fitzgerald novel.
It’s time this generation stared pondering WHY it has not produced a Hemmingway or Kafka or a Brando or Olivier or Hitchcock or Wells …just an endless stream of copy cats and superficial profiteers who milk the star system rather than produce original “art”.
Why is it the last generation was prolific in the literary arts that produced the greatest literature and films?
Well, well, well. I had nothing to do last night and made it a point NOT to watch the Academy Awards–first time ever since I was old enough to care about Hollywood’s biggest bash. (I DID watch Lawrence of Arabia, however, which seemed as endless as the Awards!)
‘Didn’t miss a thing and felt virtuous all night, that I wasn’t upping the number of viewers. I’m so tired of skanky females, of all ages, and the total lack of graciousness on the part of most of the winners. ‘Watched the Golden Globes a few weeks ago and discovered, to my regret, what really constitutes the unbearable lightness of being…
I’m with Silicon Valley Jim and his comment, “The Oscars are an annual reminder that popular culture is trash.”
Finally, this year, I voted with my channel changer.
WLMR asks, “Why is it the last generation was prolific in the literary arts that produced the greatest literature and films?” In short, IMO, it’s because the people of that generation lived before the deconstruction of Western Culture: before moral relativism, totalitarian secularism, multiculturalism, and victim status as a badge of honour. In short, before the plague of political correctness.
The longer version, with some commentary and examples: At the end of another thread, in response to what seemed a sincere, but truly deluded (and entitled), Judeo-Christian unfriendly acolyte of the PC dispensation, I wrote:
“Yes, in many ways, Western Civilization has done what most others have [some not nice things]. However, it’s a fallacy to then say that Western Civilization is on a par with every other one. It most definitely is NOT. It started
long ago, way before the Enlightenment–when, I believe, some of the poisonous seeds of [Western civilization’s] present day decline were sown. And, BTW, the Dark Ages had everything to do with the sacking of Rome and the West by non-Christian barbarians. (Not to mention the moral decadence of Roman society–sort of like the West today, in many ways.) And the preservation of Western culture and its restoration had everything to do with Christian monasteries.
“Check out immigration patterns over the last century or so, jeremiah. You’ll notice something interesting: people have been moving, in monolithic numbers, AWAY from non-Western cultures TO the DEMOCRACIES of the West, all of which are based on the Judeo-Christian understanding of the worth of the individual and the rule of law, and all of which were once explicitly Christian countries.
“Signs of our decline include, IMO, both the secularization of the West, which has largely removed its ethical foundation–by foolishly cutting off the branch on which it sits–and muliticulturalism, which aggrandizes non-Western cultures and their observance at the expense of our own. (Psst . . . I’m not supposed to say this, but some new-comer groups even directly threaten our existence as free societies. And, having sold our backbone for limp-wristed equality, we stand by and even cheer about our tolerance while it undermines the very foundation of our freedoms. This reminds me of Forrest Gump: ‘Stupid is as stupid does.’ We need to smarten up!)
“See my earlier post about keeping school kids deliberately ignorant of Canada’s Judeo-Christian past–and even present! (Are you one of those kids?) The short script I wrote about Lent for my school actually painted Christians as pretty decent, caring people, an idea one would never get from the despicable propaganda in almost every Canadian history book, where ‘the noble sav . . .’ whoops, ‘enlightened aboriginal’ reigns supreme. (I’m not blaming the aboriginals for this distortion. But it IS a distortion.) There’s virtually no mention of inter-tribal warring or despoiling the environment–no technology to avoid that–before moving on to the next encampment, or mentioning–as ET does regularly–that consensus as a way to order society can only work in small, tribal communities. As the Europeans had moved well beyond that mode of life–technological innovation, I’m afraid, jeremiah–their political arrangements were, necessarily, much more complex. jeremiah, would you prefer to live as a hunter gatherer these days or do you perhaps prefer the Judeo-Christian European legacy? (Silly me: what a question! You obviously wouldn’t prefer one or the other as you must, by your own logic, think both legacies are equal. Forget the question.)
“Another quibble with your logic: we both agree that Western Civilization isn’t perfect. There have been aberrations. Like you say, Nazism and communism are two. That’s the end of our agreement and where your faulty logic once again rears its unfortunate head. How long did these scourges last in the West, jeremiah? In the course of history, they were mere blips and the West itself both rejected and destroyed them. That you try to equate these stunted branches–all families have them–with the living trunk is deceptive, as are most of your musings on this topic.”
That trunk is the Judeo-Christian dispensation: even John Mortimer, the author, though not a Christian, recognizes the importance and efficacy of this tradition, which is summed up in the Ten Commandments. BTW, as C.S. Lewis pointed out, the Ten Commandments mirror the moral codes of civilizations the world over into the distant past. Until very recently, even those who chose to live outside this moral code–John Mortimer would not count himself outside it–recognized its validity, even its necessity, for the preservation of a moral and just society. We turn our backs on these “codes of honour” at our peril.
We’re in peril, officially condoned by most institutions in our Brave New World. Independent thinkers are unwelcome and marginalized–or worse. Groupspeak and retribution–think our Human Rights (sic) Commissions and Charter driven courts–reign.
And, IMHO, that’s why our very corrupted culture is not “prolific in the literary arts that produced the greatest literature and films”.
And now that this degenerate culture rears its ugly head, smack in our faces, at every Oscar ceremony, I’ve stopped watching: too bad because it used to be sort of fun. Like a Black Mass, the Oscars have become just a monster religious observance for the “initiated” to celebrate both the debasement of Western culture and the worship of their pagan gods.
The CBC news on the radio this morning seemed to be surprised that most of the winners were American. well duh!!!!.
Hear! Hear! lookout.
Flu in the past few days has rendered me just too tired to articulate what you just have.
Yup, a Hollywood and MSM that is just too sodden in sex, drugs, perversity, and kinkiness to know the difference anymore between what’s “acceptable” and what’s not, between what’s edifying and what’s not. As lookout says, at least watching the Oscars, before it became a Mecca and a cheerleader for skankiness and moral shoddiness, used to be fun.
Not any more. And I’m now a dyed-in-the-wool former fan, former Oscar watcher. They’ll have to go some way towards cleaning up their act before I even consider tuning in again.
I don’t think I have ever watched the Oscars, not for more than about ten minutes, anyway. Even back in the 1960s and 1970s they were too nauseating to spend much time on. It’s probably worse now, with the hypocrisy being added to the shallow narcissism that was always there.
Good points by Warwick, WLM and lookout, but that’s basically the crap that Oscar Hollyrude has been dealing us for almost as many decades as Al Bore has been fighting global climate change. It’s just that the actual movies keep getting worse.
And when they first started presenting the accademy awards back in 1926-1927 the best picture oscar went o a war film WINGS and then remember when they gave the special effect oscar to LIZ TAYLORS notoruous sinker CLEOPATRA? and now their just too left-wing
Lookout: “totalitarian secularism”
Good lingual construct descriptive of the theological or political intolerance of secular “progressivist” statism.
I had forgotten just how bad that really was….doesnt get better with age.
I thought it was great!
So Americana!
Better than Babel.
I’m still not wasting 5 hours by watching it, even though the movies nominated this year are actually worth watching…
What year was that? Quite a collection of some people who are now dead. It was cheesy as hell but still fun to watch.
My estimate 1982-86 timeframe, bacause of Rob Lowe..
Typical Hollywood liberal rip-off. No Trigger. No Bullet. No Gabby Hayes or his sidekick, Gene Autry…. you know, the guy with the scruffy beard. Rode around on Champ and sang that stupid Rudolph song. And that high-kicking chorus line wearing all those clothes. I think Heaven’s Gate won the Best Picture that year. They can all go to hell.
I actually remember that one because it was the last Academy Awards I ever bothered to sit down for. Rob Lowe putting the moves on Snow White was just too creepy and critics have since called that one of the low points of the Oscars. Lowe had been booked cheap by the Academy people because it was within a year of his video sex scandal with a minor and within two years of his trying to play junior statesman at the Democratic National Convention. The scandal was still fresh on people’s minds. Lowe hadn’t succeeded in his comeback yet, and plenty of folks were joking over whether a strange tape of him and Snow White might surface later. Dukakis had been nominated at the convention that Lowe appeared at, so this Oscar Night would be late 1980s/early 1990s.
I just have to comment on Gore and DiCaprio and the fact that it makes me throw up a little in my mouth every time I hear Gore talk (and DiCaprio for that matter).
DiCaprio made the comment that the motion picture industry makes it a point to be very proactive in social causes that help humanity. I find that quite a nauseating statement considering they have no problem promoting violence, smut and virtually every other denigrate activity – and somehow they are our collective social conscience for the betterment of our being (?). I think DiCaprio might have to check himself in to one of those weekend rehab ‘thingies’ cause whatever he’s smoking is hindering his rationale thought process.
To all actors, you sometimes make good films (sometimes), but your personal lives suck. Keep your own thoughts to yourselves.
Let me be first to predict that Algore will win for best science fiction…on no, wait, that’s not a category, is it? OK, best “documentary”.
And then he’ll thank Hollywood for being so supportive of “sustainable” solutions to save our plant…
And then later, those in Hollywood will, feeling so very altrustic, climb back into their limos, SUVs and private jets…
Gore wins…gag
Unsurprisingly, the gilded screen writers continue their efforts to poison the truth with their celebration of false propaganda, violence, and gore. Fortunately, I have found an antidote to the poison: youtube.com/watch?v=2IwJmLNaCP4
The Dead Celeb Montage is always fun – whichever one gets the most applause, I boo!
The Oscars are an annual reminder that popular culture is trash.
Here’s some more Gore antidote from the always great Mark Steyn:
The Reverand Al
Stop going to the socially correct films, they will feel it in their wallets soon enough.
I’m still waiting for Hollywood to take up the anti-smoking cause.
hollywood claimed a minimal environmental footprint, did that include Travolta flying in his personal 707? or what did it take to lift Al Bores fat butt into the air? or when did Jack Nicholson sit on an airhose?
did you see all the metal foil dropped from the ceiling. two faced hypocrites to a member.
And they picked frigging Happy Feet over Cars in the animated feature category? Cars was so much better than that mo-cap penguin mishmash. I would really love to hear these people explain themselves.
You really have to wonder how some of these folks say things with a straight face. The Greenest Academy Awards ever? I dont recall seeing anyone arrive in electrical cars. Or hybrids for that matter.
A quick cross-check into IMDB shows that the clipis from the 61st Academy Awards in 1989. Crickey, they were doing cheesey openings that recently?!?!
Im glad to see Mr Whitaker took the nod for the bio of Amin and Ms Mirren for her portrayal of QE II.
I may now actually watch the films.
most of what gets pumped out of hollywood resembles recycled drek because thats what it is.
Am I the only one nauseated by the sight of so many Hollywood hypocrites and their moral preening on “global warming”?
If these retard fools really believed that crap how come they don’t downsize the 20,000sq/ft mansion down the 2,000sq/ft home?
How come they don’t downsize the “entourage’s” fleet of Caddy escalades to a city bus?
How come they don’t trade in the Gulfstream to fly cattle class with the rest of us? Or teleconference the next award ceremony instead?
In other words, why don’t these people seem to know that if you want any credibility at all on any issue, it’s best to LEAD BY EXAMPLE!!! It only makes you look like a selfish, snot-nose bastard to demand that OTHER PEOPLE pay for your cause. That’s especially true when it’s multi-millionaires and billionaires that want the poor and middle class to do the paying.
These people make me nauseous.
If the left coast didn’t have the preening of each other’s egos to do, what would they have left to entertain their time?
Remember, We..The..People enable them by giving them our dollars. If we didn’t give, they wouldn’t exist. That makes us enablers.
At least that year gave us Rain Man and A Fish called Wanda!
http://awardsdatabase.oscars.org/ampas_awards/DisplayMain.jsp?curTime=1172503685337
Certainly isn’t the venue for sincerity or reality is it? I shudder to think the people who conceive of such hollow narcissism have a national stage to carry political messaging.
Joe McCarthy was only half right about Hollyweird…it may have been a hot bed of former communists peddling their deconstructionist messaging subtly in the film media but it is also a cult of narcissism which assumes their superfical and cloistered inbred distorted world view is representative of middle America….to produce art you have to have first hand experiences with the subject matter and I doubt the snall cabal who decide what stories are written and filmed have ever had the worldly experiences needed to portray human/worldly relaities in film.
Frankly I think that after exposure to Hollyweid surrealism in pop culture for so may years we are actually cynical towards its output and see it for what it always was…the capital of poor taste and intellectual vacancy.
With the billions of dollars and prolific output of Hollywood there are less than 3 films a year that actually have artistic merit and have the stuff of a Hemmingway or Fitzgerald novel.
It’s time this generation stared pondering WHY it has not produced a Hemmingway or Kafka or a Brando or Olivier or Hitchcock or Wells …just an endless stream of copy cats and superficial profiteers who milk the star system rather than produce original “art”.
Why is it the last generation was prolific in the literary arts that produced the greatest literature and films?
Well, well, well. I had nothing to do last night and made it a point NOT to watch the Academy Awards–first time ever since I was old enough to care about Hollywood’s biggest bash. (I DID watch Lawrence of Arabia, however, which seemed as endless as the Awards!)
‘Didn’t miss a thing and felt virtuous all night, that I wasn’t upping the number of viewers. I’m so tired of skanky females, of all ages, and the total lack of graciousness on the part of most of the winners. ‘Watched the Golden Globes a few weeks ago and discovered, to my regret, what really constitutes the unbearable lightness of being…
I’m with Silicon Valley Jim and his comment, “The Oscars are an annual reminder that popular culture is trash.”
Finally, this year, I voted with my channel changer.
WLMR asks, “Why is it the last generation was prolific in the literary arts that produced the greatest literature and films?” In short, IMO, it’s because the people of that generation lived before the deconstruction of Western Culture: before moral relativism, totalitarian secularism, multiculturalism, and victim status as a badge of honour. In short, before the plague of political correctness.
The longer version, with some commentary and examples: At the end of another thread, in response to what seemed a sincere, but truly deluded (and entitled), Judeo-Christian unfriendly acolyte of the PC dispensation, I wrote:
“Yes, in many ways, Western Civilization has done what most others have [some not nice things]. However, it’s a fallacy to then say that Western Civilization is on a par with every other one. It most definitely is NOT. It started
long ago, way before the Enlightenment–when, I believe, some of the poisonous seeds of [Western civilization’s] present day decline were sown. And, BTW, the Dark Ages had everything to do with the sacking of Rome and the West by non-Christian barbarians. (Not to mention the moral decadence of Roman society–sort of like the West today, in many ways.) And the preservation of Western culture and its restoration had everything to do with Christian monasteries.
“Check out immigration patterns over the last century or so, jeremiah. You’ll notice something interesting: people have been moving, in monolithic numbers, AWAY from non-Western cultures TO the DEMOCRACIES of the West, all of which are based on the Judeo-Christian understanding of the worth of the individual and the rule of law, and all of which were once explicitly Christian countries.
“Signs of our decline include, IMO, both the secularization of the West, which has largely removed its ethical foundation–by foolishly cutting off the branch on which it sits–and muliticulturalism, which aggrandizes non-Western cultures and their observance at the expense of our own. (Psst . . . I’m not supposed to say this, but some new-comer groups even directly threaten our existence as free societies. And, having sold our backbone for limp-wristed equality, we stand by and even cheer about our tolerance while it undermines the very foundation of our freedoms. This reminds me of Forrest Gump: ‘Stupid is as stupid does.’ We need to smarten up!)
“See my earlier post about keeping school kids deliberately ignorant of Canada’s Judeo-Christian past–and even present! (Are you one of those kids?) The short script I wrote about Lent for my school actually painted Christians as pretty decent, caring people, an idea one would never get from the despicable propaganda in almost every Canadian history book, where ‘the noble sav . . .’ whoops, ‘enlightened aboriginal’ reigns supreme. (I’m not blaming the aboriginals for this distortion. But it IS a distortion.) There’s virtually no mention of inter-tribal warring or despoiling the environment–no technology to avoid that–before moving on to the next encampment, or mentioning–as ET does regularly–that consensus as a way to order society can only work in small, tribal communities. As the Europeans had moved well beyond that mode of life–technological innovation, I’m afraid, jeremiah–their political arrangements were, necessarily, much more complex. jeremiah, would you prefer to live as a hunter gatherer these days or do you perhaps prefer the Judeo-Christian European legacy? (Silly me: what a question! You obviously wouldn’t prefer one or the other as you must, by your own logic, think both legacies are equal. Forget the question.)
“Another quibble with your logic: we both agree that Western Civilization isn’t perfect. There have been aberrations. Like you say, Nazism and communism are two. That’s the end of our agreement and where your faulty logic once again rears its unfortunate head. How long did these scourges last in the West, jeremiah? In the course of history, they were mere blips and the West itself both rejected and destroyed them. That you try to equate these stunted branches–all families have them–with the living trunk is deceptive, as are most of your musings on this topic.”
That trunk is the Judeo-Christian dispensation: even John Mortimer, the author, though not a Christian, recognizes the importance and efficacy of this tradition, which is summed up in the Ten Commandments. BTW, as C.S. Lewis pointed out, the Ten Commandments mirror the moral codes of civilizations the world over into the distant past. Until very recently, even those who chose to live outside this moral code–John Mortimer would not count himself outside it–recognized its validity, even its necessity, for the preservation of a moral and just society. We turn our backs on these “codes of honour” at our peril.
We’re in peril, officially condoned by most institutions in our Brave New World. Independent thinkers are unwelcome and marginalized–or worse. Groupspeak and retribution–think our Human Rights (sic) Commissions and Charter driven courts–reign.
And, IMHO, that’s why our very corrupted culture is not “prolific in the literary arts that produced the greatest literature and films”.
And now that this degenerate culture rears its ugly head, smack in our faces, at every Oscar ceremony, I’ve stopped watching: too bad because it used to be sort of fun. Like a Black Mass, the Oscars have become just a monster religious observance for the “initiated” to celebrate both the debasement of Western culture and the worship of their pagan gods.
The CBC news on the radio this morning seemed to be surprised that most of the winners were American. well duh!!!!.
Hear! Hear! lookout.
Flu in the past few days has rendered me just too tired to articulate what you just have.
Yup, a Hollywood and MSM that is just too sodden in sex, drugs, perversity, and kinkiness to know the difference anymore between what’s “acceptable” and what’s not, between what’s edifying and what’s not. As lookout says, at least watching the Oscars, before it became a Mecca and a cheerleader for skankiness and moral shoddiness, used to be fun.
Not any more. And I’m now a dyed-in-the-wool former fan, former Oscar watcher. They’ll have to go some way towards cleaning up their act before I even consider tuning in again.
I don’t think I have ever watched the Oscars, not for more than about ten minutes, anyway. Even back in the 1960s and 1970s they were too nauseating to spend much time on. It’s probably worse now, with the hypocrisy being added to the shallow narcissism that was always there.
Good points by Warwick, WLM and lookout, but that’s basically the crap that Oscar Hollyrude has been dealing us for almost as many decades as Al Bore has been fighting global climate change. It’s just that the actual movies keep getting worse.
And when they first started presenting the accademy awards back in 1926-1927 the best picture oscar went o a war film WINGS and then remember when they gave the special effect oscar to LIZ TAYLORS notoruous sinker CLEOPATRA? and now their just too left-wing
Lookout: “totalitarian secularism”
Good lingual construct descriptive of the theological or political intolerance of secular “progressivist” statism.