Listening to Adler right now, there’s a story that new Alberta premier Ed Stelmach may have refused a photo-op with new Sustnabul Develpmunt leader Stephane Dion on his swing through Alberta. Stay tuned….
More – via reader “Sammy”, who points to this Edmonton Sun column by Neil Waugh;
“We need to be a bit like Norway,” Dion scolded. Then he tore a strip off young guys heading for the oilsands.
“All these workers living too fast for the easy money in the north,” the prime minister-wannabe blasted as Liberal-appointed senators Tommy Banks and Grant Mitchell looked on. “It’s not good for the economy.”
[…]
Then he outlined his plan to make oilsands developers toe the line, imposing what sounds like massive taxes by basing the fed’s capital cost allowance on how much process water they use and how much carbon dioxide goes up the stacks.
“You say to industry, and the oilsands industry especially, if you decrease the use of water you will have this capital cost allowance,” Dion warned. “If you don’t, you will not have it.” Same with greenhouse gas, he said.
Dion is also a big believer in the dubious carbon trading market – where companies buy and sell hot air to meet their government-imposed emissions targets.He predicted it will be “bigger than the wheat and coffee markets together.” He promised that Canadians will make “mega tonnes of money around the world”.
“It’s not at all a carbon tax,” Dion insisted, preferring to call his proposed revenue grab “environmental tax reform.” Dion rejected the next phase of Stephen Harper’s GST rollbacks. Instead, he prefers to bring in a wonkydoodle set of rebates based on the energy efficiency and greenhouse gas reduction of household appliances and automobiles.
As the battle against global warming was going on inside the cosy university meeting room the weather guy on the radio was reporting minus 23. Meanwhile, back in Quebec, Liberal Premier Jean Charest was announcing his sinister plan to commit environmental vandalism on a vast tract of northern wildland, reverse the flow of the Rupert River system and flood thousands of hectares of carbon absorbing forests at an alleged price tag of $5 billion.
All to produce 900 megawatts of power – which is about what a decent sized Alberta coal-fired plant kicks out. Strangely, the Liberal’s green PM-to-be didn’t say boo about that outrage.
I’ll bet that had them just eatin’ out of his hand.
it was a bad photo op.
Ed had to stand between Julie Van Dussen and Stephane ( call I call you Stef?) Dion.
Ed with limited folicles didnt want to stand between something that looks like a badly shorn sheep and something that looks like a poorly cut hay crop.
Did he talk about da coe fard generatir?
Being disappointed in not having a photo with Stelmach would be like shedding a tear at the departure of Martin weasels like Khan and Stelmach.
…” meant Khan and Lapierre..”
so will Stephane be classified as this?
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070112/bilingualism_dementia_070112/20070112?hub=TopStories
Geez, maybe Steady Eddie’s got more cojones than we thought?
How dare a Western Premier snubb the leader of the official opposition.
Heads will roll!
here we go– first crack at the carbon tax.
http://ctv2.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070112.wdion2-01012/business/Business/businessBN/ctv-business
“we donut wan to stoop the ekonomeek engane of canadaw, but we will make aburda heel to iss mastur the fedurall governmentt”
Eddie Knows his revenues bread is buttered with Oilsands tar…..Dion’s simplistic mimblings about killing Eddie’s golden goose probably has put him off.
Also he has to demonstrate to the Blue tories, constitutionalists and populists in the caucus ( collectively aligned behind Ted Morteon) that he doesn’t have a banana for a backbone when it comes to confronting Ottawa’s incursions into Alberta’s resource sector.
Besides it’s a well deserved snib after the contemptuous Ottawa cheerlieading Dion did in Alberta when Dithers Martin sent him there on a “unity” tour to counter the growing Alberta independence movement….he blew it by managing to insult most Albertans except butt-snorkeling Liberals.
I view Canada as a temporary aberration in the march of history.
FREE THE WEST!!!
Listen to Dave Rutherford interviewing Dion here … Bring up Fri, Jan. 12 … 9 am … fast forward to the 13 minute mark.
Hah… I think it is singularly telling that Dion was greeted by Ted Morton first… Thats a big F*#$-you Stephanie, with love from Alberta… New post up.
Cal2,thanks so much for the biggest guffaw of the day!The very adept way you do hair commentary,one might mistake you for a “coiffure”(sp)expert!
And thanks to you Kate,you solved a big dilemma for me..I just could not figure out how to spell “sustnabul develpmont”..whew,now I can quit stressing over that.
Anyone else thinking that Cherniak has become the “Bagdad Bob”of the Lib.spinerama?
I also liked comment from Dion in G&M,that he wants to make big-ass gains in Alta in next election…and that it’s a “SCANDAL” for me as a leeberal,.that out of 28 ridings in Alta,we have zero seats!What I would like…is to have more members of the house (in Alta),than I do as senators from the leeberal partay.(Alta has 4 leeberal senators)
He then said,”if I become pri-meenister,I weel let the big oil companies do what they want just to keep my leeberal partay in power,and then I can break all these promises,jus’ like Martin & Chretien did..no one in Toronto noticed,and that’s all that matters”…well,maybe he didn’t say all that stuff,but what’s a bit of journalistic spin-doctoring!I learned that from Taber,Julie”egg-beater hair”Van Dolten,Mr.Dress-up Don Newman,need I go on?
OMG!!
Does this mean that the federal Liberals will have a hard time keeping their Alberta seats in the next election?
According to the CTV website,Stephanie is proposing a Kyoto system in Alberta where companies which don’t meet environmental targets would buy carbon credits from other companies.
I guess the Liberals are willing to write off any potential seats in Alberta to show all the lefties across Canada that they mean business when it comes to all the green b.s.
I’m waiting for mary T to have a caniption on this one!
Stephane who? Why does anybody think the Liberals are worth paying any attention to? Stelmach, to his credit, knows who’s a nobody. Having his pic taken with Stephane is about as worthwhile as having his pic taken with Mike from Canmore. Hell, Mike from Canmore’s far more interesting than Stephane from the Ivory Tower of Elite Libranoism!
“I promise to be Alberta’s best friend”
This promise is brought to you by the leader of the federal liberal party
You could not get me drunk enough to swallow that!
For the story that tells it all,check out Neil Waugh’s column in todays Edm.Sun..it is PRICELESS.Wonder why G&M not covering these comments,or the cbc??
Some of Dion’s excellent ideas shared with students a Faculte St.Jean:we need to be a bit like Norway,Dion scolded.Then he tore a strip off young guys heading for the oilsands…”all these workers living too fast for the EASY MONEY in the north,”the prime-minister wannabe blasted as Lib.appointed senators Banks,and Mitchell looked on.”it’s not good for the economy”
Read the rest,it totally shows how vacant,and out of touch this idiot is.Any of you oilpatch guys like to comment on the “easy money” you make in the patch? Both my boys did this job,and it was far from easy!
Sammy, I never worked in the oil patch, but about forty years in fishing, logging, and construction has me convinced there ain’t any “easy money” out there, unless it’s that paid to politicians who think attending lunches and making speeches is hard work.
Arrogant Liberal!
Bring back Sheila Copps.
She’s a man who can get things done.
Hey,i heard a lot of Liberal’s say Baird should do his first interview as new enviro-minister outside because of warm temperatures in Ottawa.
How come Steffi never did his interview outdoors in Alberta?You know,global warming and all.
I love it when ‘muricans blame Canada for their cold weather!
You hear them say …”A Canadian” cold front is coming over the entire midwest…” ???
* C ertainly N ot N ews *
Stelmach has a province to run and Jean-Dion well he is trying to look relevant.
‘He promised that Canadians will make “mega tonnes of money around the world”.’
Even by Liberal standards this is an enormous lie.
“All these workers living too fast for the easy money in the north,” Did Celine actually say that? How far out to lunch is this dipwad? I have a hunch that speach was for the folks down east who have a case of oilpatch envy. Anyone want to wager just how long he would last in a pub in Fort Mac after saying something like that (assuming he could be understood)?
It’s petty to comment on a person’s appearance….but…. Stephawn is a real dopey looking individual. His English fits with his appearance. Surely he can get his ass in gear and at least look alive and polish up his speaking skills.
Just imagine the guffaws and criticism we’d be getting from the media dipsticks if he were a Conservative. To say nothing of the political satirists like Mercer and the stupid Air Farce.
Furthermore, he has no flipping clue about the environment, never did, all empty talk and no action, now it’s a bloody emergency, according to them.
Let’s hope we get some decisive action on this file and silence these idiots.
Stephanie has already lost the next election.
If there’s one thing Liberals hate more than white males, it’s losing. And with each passing day Dion looks more and more like a guy who is gonna get creamed next election. He’s uncharismatic, lacking in political instincts, says the goofiest things, and is every bit as dishonest as Chretien and Martin were. I don’t think he’ll last 2 years as leader.
Prediction:
A resurgence of forests of bumper stickers on Alberta vehicles, all reading “Let the Eastern Bastards Freeze in the Dark”
Hmmmm…maybe I can pick up the franchise….
make money for yourself , big money, work for it.
what a concept, Steffs reality is rooted in the legacy of duffism left by the liberals where you can sit on your duff for 75% of the year while someone else carries the freight.
tax the plants, shut them down, for once even the maritimers will feel the effect of the liberal tax and spend attitude.
This little white lab rat Dion, sounds like a tax tyrant waiting for his 15 minutes while hoping for say … 15 years in the PMO.
If he gets in, he will preside over the dissipation of this demented dominion.
And who the hell is he to tell the hard working people of Alberta how they should be living.
This guy needs to be watched as well as ignored. He is dangerous to our economy.
No economy … no country.
Dion says, with his arrogant contempt, “All those workers living too fast for the easy money in the north’.
Is he out of his mind? Dion has just insulted every tradesman, every construction worker, every oil rig worker, every hydro worker, every linesman..every one in Canada. His sneering contempt for people who work; his contempt for their actually wanting to earn a decent and good living, his rejection of their desire for betterment. Quite something.
Dion’s incredible contempt for others is overwhelming. What about his demand of Khan that he be Loyal only to Him, Dion and not to Canada.
And his Authoritarianism and Controlling Nature is equally overwhelming. Listen to him talk about how he’s going to punish those industries that have ‘high emissions’; how he’s going to ‘make them toe the line’. The incredible arrogance of this man – it’s beyond belief.
Canadians are not his slaves, to be whipped into obedience to His Majesty’s Will. This is not the 10th century, and Dion is not The Supreme King who controls us all – even though he talks as if that’s his agenda.
Remember how he calls Harper a ‘control-freak’? It’s Dion who is the control-freak – and a dangerous one; he has no respect for people, nothing but contempt for hard work and demands total, absolute obedience to him. Hmmm.
Did anyone here go to the event last night in Edmonton ? If so was it worth it , as far as questions and answers ? There also seems to be some confusion as to the venues here in Calgary . The ” Town Hall ” meeting is at 7PM at Epcor Centre’s Engineered Air Theatre , 205 8th Ave SE . The Youth get together is at the James Joyce at 8PM . I got this from calgarygrits’ web page (it’s linked below in Little Star Of Parliament Hill , Jan 10 ) By questions and answers , I mean , was it all softballs being lobbed , or did any tough questions get hurled his way ?
I am not going to have a coniption fit over the useless dion. Waiting to hear what he had to say in Calgary. Maybe those tarsands will be used to tar and feather the bimbo. Me, I will be joining the Alberta Separtist Party if dion is ever elected PM. Toronto should remember that it takes 3 years for a recession in AB to hit the east, and it hits there much harder than here. We remember the nep and will never allow that or anything like it to happen again. And, dion, spend a day working in the oil patch, it aint easy. Those men and women earn their money, more than any lib mp does. Danny Williams better hope those jobs stay and keep his people employed and sending money home to families. A pox on all liberals. No liberals elected next election in AB, since all those dead people have been taken off voting lists in landslide annies riding.
must be too controversial for CBCpravda today they are back to one of their favourites L words. Liberals, lawyers,lesbians and…….
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2007/01/12/formula-milk.html
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Lactation.
And the award for guts of the week goes to cbc,for having something called Intelligence on their network!
And the award for guts of the week goes to cbc,for having something called Intelligence on their network!
Three cheers for Stelmach for not posing for a pic with idiot dion. Laugheed paid dearly for that pic with pet. But, how much coffee does canada produce and export, aka dions stmt carbon sales will exceed wheat and coffee. Wonder what Ted Morton told him. If dinning had been elected he would have been kissing dions ass. Still trying to get some coverage of dions visit to global warmed Calgary. Nothing on Global, Lethbridge local so now trying ctv in Calgary.
Europe is starting to reject kyoto, and there are more and more reports re the phoney science. Just saw dion, very small crowd, sullen looking dryden in the room. His stmts are not going over well in AB. Wonder how many will attend his public, free, (who would pay) town hall meeting at the enmax center from 7-8:30 tonight. That is a big bldg to fill.
Evironmentalism,
just another tool to use against political foes.
So “big oil”, the Western boogyman, gets nailed,
but the TO coal fired plant (the biggest polluter in the country) the Que. dams, the Ontario auto industry,
well those aren’t really a concern.
It’s not environmentalism. It’s politically useful environmentalism.
That sneering comment about the workers daring wanting to eke out a good living (but apparantly not the correct way to want to make money),
is frightening,
but it should also be used by the CPC – over and over and over again, in the next election.
Dion enters nuclear energy debate
Jason Fekete, Calgary Herald
Federal Liberal Leader Stephane Dion threw cold water Friday on the use of nuclear energy in the oilpatch….-
Meanwhile, Liberal McGuinty, in Ontario:
globeandmail.com
The Ontario government plans to spend up to $40-billion building two new nuclear reactors and refurbishing up to half a dozen existing ones to address the …-
Citizen Dion’s fuel bundle is missing a few fuel rods.
OH MY GAWD!! Everytime one of these lieberal clowns show himself my belief that the Librano party is inhabited solely by thieves and retards becomes stronger.
Dion, Cherniak, Scott Reid, Kinsella, Chretien, Martin, Don Newman, Copps, Heddy Fry, Jane Stewart, Gagliano, Trudeau (all of them) Chairman Mau, etc. I could go on forever listing Liberals that should have been sterilized at birth and locked away in a mental institution. They truly do represent the bottom sludge of the gene pool, and are responsible for all that is wrong with Canada today.
It has always been my contention that all Librano voters should have to register with the local RCMP detachment so we can keep an eye on them, maybe set them aside for some psychological experiments. It’s amazing how these people can actually talk themselves into making an “X” next to a Librano when they go and vote.
Sorry for the rant.
does anyone know if/what dion’s middle name is?
does he have one starting with ‘T’?
thus initials ‘STD’
LOL !!!
mebbee thats why its sitting amongst the highest level state secrets !!!
mebbee we can start a petition to ENDOW him with a suitably spelt middle name. ‘Twit’ springs to mind….
he a friggin std on the privates of the entire nation.
I think that the Texas Canuck and ET have hit the nail on the head which is about where he’d get hit if he ever showed up in a Northern bar and talked about working guys like that. It certainly is nice to see the arrogance of the Liebrals right out there where it’s easy to see.
First duty after the Liebral selection is to lie about helping PMSH define and craft the concept of Nation for Quebec.
Scum sucking hound for sure.
I think I’d like to see BombarDion throwing chain on the floor of a rig making some of “dat easy monee”. I can’t believe the arrogance of these snobs. I would vote liberal for the rest of my life if Dion could spend 2 weeks roughneckin’ on an old Pirate rig without crying once.
A huge number of those “workers living too fast for the easy money” in northern Alberta are from Ontario and the Maritimes! They should be delighted their leader feels this way about them.
Now let’s not pick on Scott Reid. He was nice enough to back track and say we good little children can actually have our beer and popcorn if we choose to. Oh, thank you so much Mr. Socialist Reid.
I listen to Charles all the time. He’s fairly cool. However, I can’t help think that the Premier of any province snubbing any “potential” PM is bad politics.
Les
Adler is a blowhard. i heard him today licking Kinsella’s backside. I almost puked.
Stelmach is showing way more balls than I had him figured for and I am really starting to like the guy even though I voted for Morton. Stelmach is letting BombarDion (I saw this on another post and liked it. sorry for the blatant theft) know where the bear sh*t in the buckwheat. Kissing ass didn’t get Klein anywhere. This demonstrates how much people regard Dion. He is a nobody, and the only party he could rise to lead is the Libranos (or maybe the Dippers would be that dumb).
If you honestly think Dion will ever have any sway over Alberta you better lay off the popcorn and beer. Dion in charge of this country would definitely fan the flames of separation if he kept talking like he was today.
“Adler is a blowhard.”
Is this the same Adler I know? Charles Adler? If it is he is considered to be mostly pro-right. He does actually suprise you sometimes by saying what he thinks is right without putting politics into it. It’s a bummer I know. And yes, he has surprised me at times with his opinion. But he calls them as he sees them.
Les
I suppose if a Liberal leader is to make a poorly timed Freudian Slip, it may as well be a doozie…what was Dion thinking uttering anything to do with “Group Action”….near the bottom of this article? He realized his mistake, but too late.
Note also, that media videographers left before questions were taken from the audience.
A few other tidbits are included for the reader, from the two reporter’s live blogging of Dion’s answers:
3w. canada .com/calgaryherald/story.html?id=993bca9f-43ef-460a-a458-5fb67a799b1c
“Live blog from Stephane Dion’s town hall meeting
Ben Li and Kris Kotarski
Calgary Herald Friday, January 12, 2007
BL…..”Oh, and Alberta grew its strong economy not because of federal involvement, but in spite of it.
7:29 – BL – Exit regular media videographers, audience rear.
7:32 – KK – We begin the night’s questions with an explanation of the carbon trading market and how it would help Alberta’s economy once the Liberals impose strict limits on emissions…..
7:46 – KK – Questions on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict bring up some obvious answers.
“I am against ethnic cleansing and I will say that in every circumstance.”
That’s awesome! Me too!
“We must have two states living side by side with a contiguous border, and not Swiss cheese for the Palestinians.”
That’s a very nice visualization of a tough geopolitical issue. I’m beginning to like Dion more and more…
7:50 – BL – At last, someone potentially in power in Canada acknowledges “Palestine” as a state on the same level as “Israel.” Not controversial at all….
Is there substance? Tonight’s answers are a bit cliché, but then so are the questions. I would love to see how Dion could handle a hostile—and intelligent—crowd.
8:04 – KK – Interesting to hear Dion’s take on nuclear power in the oil sands. He acknowledges that it’s provincial jurisdiction; then says he doesn’t like it; then says the only reason he doesn’t like it is because we don’t have a good way to handle the waste.
Yet, if we’re going to be dealing the environment, we may have to make tough choices—for example, do we want to reduce carbon emissions and deal with nuclear waste, or would we rather have the status quo plus a carbon trading scheme?
I think Albertans have to answer many of these questions, and it would be hear a more nuanced version of the “emissions are bad” debate.
…National health library. Self-serve health care on the Internet. Root cause analysis. A toxic environment. Nice ideas, Stephen, but did you consider that the national health care system (and the environment
ministry) had been under Liberal control for more than a decade before we landed in this health care and environmental crisis with obese and unhealthy kids. Root cause analysis indeed….
8:18 – KK – Ahh… there’s the spotty English.
Talking about obese youngsters:
“We need to recreate the Group Action…”
Crowd mutters, then laughs.
Dion, red in the face:
“I mean Participaction! Participaction!”
Hal Johnson would be proud… Joanne McLeod, not so much.”