Maybe it’s because I’ve read way too much World Two history… maybe it’s because I’m a paranoid rightwhing warmongering neocon nutbar… or maybe, it’s just because the facts speak for themselves… but I’d swear we’ve been down this road before:
In the end, our little boys and girls will have to face their little boys and girls. The question yet to be answered is, will our little boys and girls, raised on decadence, utopian fantasy, and cradle to grave security, be able to stand up to, least of all defeat, their little boys and girls?
Last time, they called themselves the Divine Wind.
Lefties may click their tongues at such things, but thinking that their ideas are superior, this will go on and on as long as they stop conservatives from bringing this conflict to a close.
They throw out the word “global” on a daily basis. But is anyone on the Left capable of seeing the global-historical picture of mankind and how evil must always be confronted with superior force in order to come to an end?
No…must get back to Star Trek fantasy…head in sand…oooh so comforting…I feel better now….Kofi, Hugo, Fidel…Imagine….
/leftist.
How then do they explain all the lasers and missles and death in Star Trek? “oh, it’s the evil conservatives they are killing” ??? What blind, childish, lemmings they all are.
I’m at an age where it’s unlikely to fully impact Canada in my lifetime, but, if it does, having lived in and visited Muslim countries I figure I could leave my beard grow long and untrimmed, mumble “Insh’allah” and stay out of trouble……….the ones who will be affected are, ironically, the very people who ignore, downplay or even embrace the onset of Islam.
They won’t know what hit them, and it might almost be fun to attend the weekly beheadings at Chop Chop, (formerly Nathan Phillips), Square after the Friday noon prayers, a la Mme LaFarge, and chuckle as they lose their little lefty heads.
Perhaps I could learn the Arabic for Toby Keith’s “How do you like me now”?
Multiculturalism.
The acid/solvent thrown by the transnationalist nihilists, and their allies, left liberals, socialists, Muslim Islamic terrorists, upon decadent nations/peoples: nothing remains, but the desert sands. My name is Ozymandias. …-
Belmont Club:
A bleak picture of the corrosive effects of ethnic diversity has been revealed in research by Harvard University’s Robert Putnam, one of the world’s most influential political scientists. His research shows that the more diverse a community is, the less likely its inhabitants are to trust anyone – from their next-door neighbor to the mayor. …
The core message of the research was that, “in the presence of diversity, we hunker down”, he said. “We act like turtles. The effect of diversity is worse than had been imagined. And it’s not just that we don’t trust people who are not like us. In diverse communities, we don’t trust people who do look like us.”
Prof Putnam found trust was lowest in Los Angeles, “the most diverse human habitation in human history”, but his findings also held for rural South Dakota, where “diversity means inviting Swedes to a Norwegians’ picnic”.
IMO, I think a long time Liberal, but one with a concious, said it all.
“Calling them the Axis of Evil doesn’t seem so far-fetched, now, does it ?”, .. Warren Kinsella.
Our little girls will contribute their brains and brawn to the cause, whereas the best their little girls will be able to do is act as the occasional human bomb.
I like our 100% vs 50% advantage.
Here’s a recent audio interview with Mark Steyn. He touches on what’s at stake, how the left is betraying us and that there will be few if any allies forthcoming in defeating the Death Cult. Nothing we all don’t know, but, analyzed superbly as only Mark Steyn can.
http://www.tcsdaily.com/Multimedia.aspx?id=53
I still don’t think most people are really getting it.
It’s not just the 100% vs 50%, it’s everything about our culture. Muslim society doesn’t seem to have what the right attitude to develop a functioning modern military. Corruption, laziness, and indifference are status quo for them. Nothing ever gets done when the soldiers are unmotivated, their leaders are indifferent, and the storesmen are corrupt. Add to that the “if allah wills it” attitude, and you’ve got yourself a military that’ll fall apart in days if not hours when confronted with a western army. If we ever really put our minds to it even Canada alone could roll through the Middle East with relative ease.
Which is why we haven’t faced an actual army from an Islamic country since the Iraqi army was defeated in two weeks. They’re not unaware of their weaknesses – and their strengths; it’s going to be a slow, ugly, attritional war, fought in ambushes and alleyways and in surprise attacks by small, motivated, fanatical groups, because the will to field an actual army, in the sense that we know the word, isn’t there.
Which doesn’t mean it won’t be a closely fought thing, or that it isn’t posssible to lose.
At the end of the day the alliance between the “left” and the islamists is an odd one. However their common cause is anti capitalim, anti globalisation and anti americanism, to the extent that America is the leader of this.
It is the oddest of alliances and it will not be a permanent one. Unfortunately it will take awhile before there is a breaking point.
Watch the Europeans scurry if and when America pulls in its horns….
For a look at the future look at Darfur…why the left pasys so much attention there, as tragic as it is, and doesnt see it linked to other problems I look for someone with a higher pay grade to explain to me.
The biggest battles to be fought may very well be against those in our midst, namely the coalition of Muzzie fifth columnists and the political Left.
It’s not just a ME situation, it’s global. It’s right here in River city. It’s not just about rolling tanks and Desert Rats, it’s about terror and Ideology. It’s about giving up rights and fear. Look at what’s going down at Heathrow right now. That parcel could be a bundle of newspapers wrapped up. But they have to close down the terminal, delay flights and bring in the bomb squads. What’s the cost on that 1 mil…2mil? That’s if it isn’t even a bomb. If it successfully detonates well… Can you imagine the cost in a coordinated attack where all around the globe a gym bag was left?
We are not going to face the Islamic Fascist at a Vimy Ridge, they are simply going to more effectively make us back up little by little with these terror attacks. That is until we as a global community “get it!”
I think the alliance between the Islamic fascists and the left is not just anti-capitalism, anti-globalization, anti-Americanism but a deeper structural compatibility.
Both are socialist or collectivist. Both focus on group homogeneity; the Islamist wants everyone Islamic, the Left wants everyone at the same economic level, wants everyone to have the same beliefs and behaviour.
Therefore both the Islamist and the left reject Otherness, they reject dissent and dialogue. The left permits diversity only with clear distinctions; you must be a member of a collective in order to be accepted as ‘diverse’. So you must be an ethnic, or gay, or whatever. You are never ever an individual.
Both the Islamist and the left reject individualism; you must be a member of a collective.
Both the Islamist and the left reject reason. Both privilege emotion over reason and both focus on a fictional account of reality rather than a factual account.
Both the Islamist and the left reject science, empirical evidence, objectivity, facts. The Islamist rejects it because the ‘real world’ of objective fact has no value; only death and the ‘everlasting’ is of value. The left rejects it because the ‘real world’ also doesn’t exist and has no value; they consider that reality is only what you perceive within your subjective perception.
Both the Islamist and the left are authoritarian. They consider that the Right Way to Live must be imposed on the population. That is why they do not permit dialogue, questions, dissent.
Both the Islamist and the left are utopian. They consider that there IS an ideal mode of life. The Islamic fascist considers that this pure mode existed ‘in the past’ with Mohammed, they want to enforce this mode by force; the left considers that this pure mode will exist ‘in the future’ once everyone is also brought under control.
Both the Islamist and the left use propaganda or fictional accounts of reality to achieve their goals.
Both the Islamist and the left discredit modernity and progress and both are hypocritical in this disdain. The Islamist will sneer at modern technology but will readily use its guns and cars and weapons; the left are the same; they will sneer at modern technology and use it as readily as anyone else – ‘Limousine Leftists’.
Both the Islamist and the left are incredibly ignorant about ecology, about history, about demographics, about biology, economics and the different sociopolitical structures over history.
Both the Islamist and the left are predominantly ‘kept people’, i.e., they survive by income, not from direct hard work, but by indirect funding from various gov’t revenues.
Above all, they share the rejection of reason, of individualism, of the necessity for knowledge, exploration, dissent and they share the same rejection of personal responsibility.
The answer is YES our little boys and girls will stand up and defeat them. Rightwingnutjobs have had it wrong all along.
My proof, rightwingers have had enough time time to prove their methodology but in the end always come up empty. Vietnam and Iraq are great examples and now North Korea has defied the mighty USA and rubbed Bush’s nose in chickenshit!
The fear of loss of decadence is a powerful tool and not to be underestimated. Our left of center children will take care of this in due time.
Brown, exactly how will they do this? Oh that’s right you FEEL they will do this. No hard facts or empirical evidence.
Imagine there’s no heaven….that’s your version of facts. Keep imagining, because it will never happen. Conservatives will win in the end because we have the ingenuity and firepower.
Your last line is either parody or self-parody beacuse you have gone off the deep end. I can’t tell.
http://hallsofmacadamia.blogspot.com/2006/10/abdullah-lemme-explain-ohms-law.html
Personally… if my kid was in Afghanistan, and if it gave my child even a marginally better chance of survival – there isn’t a raggedy-ass terrorist scrotum I’d hesitate to introduce to my good friend “Major Voltage”.
So c’mon, let’s be brutally honest. If right now, it was your kid pullin’ security patrol out in the Panjwaii, what mother or father out there wouldn’t be saying, “Red is negative, black is… ”
Doug,
You have no empirical evidence to the contrary just a bunch of massaged ‘faction’ and fear mongering.
At the end of the day nobody really knows and won’t know either until it actually happens.
These types of rightie discussions are as stupid as some of my posts.
Reading some of these posts, from Doug and Masz and penny and the others Conservatives, I somehow keep picturing a scene from the movie Gone With the Wind.
It’s fairly early on, as the outbreak of the American Civil War is declared during a grand southern BBQ. Against a backdrop of lusty cheering and the sounds of celebratory gunfire Charles Hamilton rushes up to Scarlett O’Hara and in an excited voice cries, “Oh Miss Scarlett, isn’t it wonderful! It’s War!” Since Scarlett has been rejected by her beau Leslie Wilkes, she marries Charles, who soon dies of pneumonia. Not quite so wonderful.
Whose idea was it to let all these arabs in here so that they could undermine us from within?
Whew! I smell a stinking pile of dogshit. No, make that two piles of troll vomit.
Whew! I smell a stinking pile of dogshit. No, make that two piles of troll vomit.
Posted by: Doug at October 10, 2006 04:36 PM
A thin skin will get you nowhere, Doug, nor will this kind of inarticulate outburst.
“Frankly, my dear(Budd), I don’t give a damn.”
Real Conservative: That is the question I have been asking for years. If they don’t like it here please return to their own country and leave opurs alone.
“Frankly, my dear(Budd), I don’t give a damn.”
Posted by: penny at October 10, 2006 04:40 PM
Why that’s good, penny.
I OTOH do give a damn about avoiding unnecessary wars and the incredible carnage they cause. My father was a veteran of six years in the navy in WWII and he always reminded that war is a stupid and terrifying waste.
“Vietnam and Iraq are great examples and now North Korea has defied the mighty USA and rubbed Bush’s nose in chickenshit!”
Why is it that the left continues to blame Vietnam on the right when Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson were Democrats and stared the Vietnam War.? Is it selective memory, short attentions span, low memory powers, or just brainwashed dumb?
It’s brainwashed dumb, alan. I just, for instance, in the 30 seconds before I turned it off, heard a CNN monologue on N.Korea As Victim, claiming that the US was actively interested in taking over N.Korea and deposing its leader, that N. Korea was simply protecting itself against the US. Now, that’s quite the propaganda.
Oh – and showing all the starving N.Korean children, wanting to be protected against this alleged take-over by the USA. More propaganda.
This brainwashing utterly ignores that famine and starvation in N.Korea are entirely and completely of its own making, as they are in Zimbabwe. The N.Korean centralization of the economy, the refusal to permit the people to engage in free economies, and the financial focus of the economy on the military and only the military, rather than the economy and well-being of the people, have left N.Korea in a mess, with its people kept alive by world food aid and desperate to get out into China.
For example, S. Korea has a population of about 48 million and a GDP of 965 billion. N.Korea has a population of 23 million and a GDP of only 40 billion. Hmmm.
It’s entirely N.Korea’s own fault – including its own rejection of its commitment to the Sept 2005 agreement, to which it agreed, of a non-nuclear agenda.
As for our visiting leftists, they display a common ignorance of fact. Budd – what reasonable person is in favour of an ‘unnecessary war’? That’s a tautology. War is sometimes necessary and that includes, with all due respect to your father, WWII.
And david brown- another pearl of wisdom, ‘at the end of the day no-one really knows and won’t know either until it happens’. Actually, this logical positivism isn’t either a pearl nor very wise. You see, the future isn’t as ad hoc and wildly random as your sentence suggests, and therefore, knowing the variables, one can move into a reasonably accurate prediction. Neither we nor the biological world could survive without that predictive capacity.
DB,
So your “left of centre” children are going to do it, are they?
The NP ran an article awhile ago, claiming that the left aren’t having children and therefore aren’t going to have a future. Based on research of course. But besides that, learning cowardice, lies and feelings at the feet of their moronic parent wouldn’t produce much in the way of offspring able to stand up to anything.
Don’t think you’ll have to worry too much about Muslim children popping off lefty children though. Abortion does the job for them.
Oh, BTW, Vietnam was started and prosecuted by Liberal/Dems.
You really are a dumbass.
Demographics makes a ‘mano-a-mano’ action on the battlefield impossible, a third of the population in the uncivilized countries are under 15 years old and there’s millions of them.
Nuclear weapons will have to be used, it may seem unfair but it’s not our fault they’re so backwards.
Stephen said, “At the end of the day the alliance between the ‘left’ and the islamists is an odd one.”
It just goes to prove the old adage: “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”
And you’re right, Stephen, these kinds of alliances don’t last long, because although in this case it’s true that both the Leftists and Islamofascists, as ET says, “discredit modernity and progress,” they do so in such different ways, and with such different motives, that their “alliance” will be short-lived.
The tragedy is, the Leftists live in our Western society and seem not to have a clue that they’re playing right into the belly of the Islamofascist beast, thereby consigning many of their fellow Westerners to a much greater threat from the extremist Muslim enemy. The Leftists are blindly ignorant of the peril we are in because they’re me-first, me-only, navel gazers of the first order, always wanting someone else to bail them out.
“Which is why we haven’t faced an actual army from an Islamic country since the Iraqi army was defeated in two weeks. They’re not unaware of their weaknesses – and their strengths; it’s going to be a slow, ugly, attritional war, fought in ambushes and alleyways and in surprise attacks by small, motivated, fanatical groups, because the will to field an actual army, in the sense that we know the word, isn’t there. Which doesn’t mean it won’t be a closely fought thing, or that it isn’t posssible to lose.”
I knew I should have expanded on my post.
I meant to mention that as long as we’re fighting by the current rules, their ability to form an army is irrelevant. You’re absolutely right about that. But you’re wrong when you say that it’s possible for us to lose. Right now our doctrine is to play nice, avoid civilian casualties, and try to educate their civilian populations while helping them, thereby eventually bringing them to our side. The terrorists have the ability to make that aspect of our mission fail. What they do not have is the ability to defeat us in a way which would jeopardize our countries or societies. If they ever managed to strike us hard and gain any sort of strategic victory, is there any doubt that we’d throw all the niceties out the window? “Total War” is the final step, and the moment the western world crosses over that line is the moment all Muslims should start preparing to meet Allah. In world war 2 the US rounded up all Japanese citizens and put them in interment camps. If we were dealing with daily suicide attacks on the streets of Toronto, is there any doubt we’d do the same to the Muslims? Would we really care about civilian casualties in the Middle East if we were losing hundreds of civilians to attacks on our own shores? That’s why the best that “they” can hope to do is harass us and get us to give up on reforming the middle east. They don’t have the capacity for all-out warfare, and their current tactics have no hope of directly affecting our countries. We can’t “lose”, the worst that can happen is we get tired and go home.
G&M poll, Multi -culturalism; a National security issue ? Y/N, near 50/50
Wonder if the #’s will be “adjusted” before pulling it.
“Zen at War is a courageous and exhaustively researched book by Brian Victoria, a western Soto Zen priest and instructor at the University of Auckland. Victoria reveals the inside story of the Japanese Zen establishment’s dedicated support of the imperial war machine from the late 1800’s through World War II. He chronicles in detail how prominent Zen leaders perverted the Buddhist teaching to encourage blind obedience, mindless killing, and total devotion to the emperor. The consequences were catastrophic and the impact can still be felt today.
Most western Buddhists will find this account heart- and mind-boggling. Enlightened Zen Masters supporting war contradicts everything we know about the Buddha’s teaching. After World War II, the Japanese Zen tradition, like the nation itself, went into a collective amnesia regarding its complicity in the war. So over 50 years of Buddhist history have been hidden from outsiders and the Japanese themselves. They are just beginning to confront what happened.
Zen at War could not have been written in Japan. To uncover this information demanded a person outside the Japanese world of loyalty who could dig deeply and ask uncomfortable questions. Victoria was urged not publish his book. One Chinese priest suggested that it would slander the Dharma. But, as Victoria rightly points out, the truth is never slander. Zen at War is a major contribution to understanding contemporary Zen and is a “must read” for all serious Dharma students. It may be the most significant Buddhist history book of the decade.”
http://www.darkzen.com/Articles/zenholy.htm
And David Brown will arm his left of centre kids with his co-workers illegal handguns smuggled in from The Great Satan’s land.
“Daddy which end does the bullet come out of…?”
Kind of like the movie Red Dawn for the brain dead.
Budd – what reasonable person is in favour of an ‘unnecessary war’? That’s a tautology. War is sometimes necessary and that includes, with all due respect to your father, WWII.
Posted by: ET at October 10, 2006 05:10 PM
My father wouldn’t have argued with you that World War II was a necessary one. He volunteered. However, he would point out to you that even that war involved terrific waste, and many bad decisions.
Bud said: “Reading some of these posts, from Doug and Masz and penny and the others Conservatives, I somehow keep picturing a scene from the movie Gone With the Wind.”
Why Is Ahmadinejad Smiling at Bud Campbell?
Bud is seeking/awaiting bliss: Gone With The Mahdi. …-
Why Is Ahmadinejad Smiling?
The intellectual sources of his apocalyptic vision.
by Waller R. Newell
Extract:
“Unfortunately, whether mad or not, Ahmadinejad has a coherent ideological vision in which the call to wipe out Israel is no ordinary manifestation of anti-Semitism. Instead, it is the beckoning of an apocalyptic event that will usher in a millennium of bliss for all believers, indeed all mankind.” …-
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/012/795hlmvk.asp
The NP ran an article awhile ago, claiming that the left aren’t having children and therefore aren’t going to have a future. Based on research of course. But besides that, learning cowardice, lies and feelings at the feet of their moronic parent wouldn’t produce much in the way of offspring able to stand up to anything.
Don’t think you’ll have to worry too much about Muslim children popping off lefty children though. Abortion does the job for them.
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You really are a dumbass.
Posted by: Irwin Daisy at October 10, 2006 05:23 PM
Another one of Daisy’s proofs that not all Liberal smear tactics are entirely without foundation. There really are some distasteful Neanderthals in the nether reaches of Canada’s Conservative base.
Well, we’d better start killing their children I guess, eh?
I’m getting a bit pissed with your type calling yourselves right wingers, your just out of control. I don’t know how Harper managed to shut you up at the last election long enough that the voters didn’t associate him with you, but if you keep on this way… hello Liberanos.
bud – of course that war involved waste and bad decisions. That’s true not only of wars but of everything, and to assume that human beings are or ought to be programmed like machines is naive.
Whether it is developing a new drug, a new surgical technique, a new method of road construction and etc, all our attempts will involve some to a lot of waste and bad decisions and wrong turns and errors. And good decisions and correct turns and errors corrected. That’s life.
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Why Is Ahmadinejad Smiling at Bud Campbell?
Bud is seeking/awaiting bliss: Gone With The Mahdi. …-
Why Is Ahmadinejad Smiling?
The intellectual sources of his apocalyptic vision.
by Waller R. Newell
…
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/012/795hlmvk.asp
Posted by: maz2 at October 10, 2006 06:21 PM
I shouldn’t really bother replying to such an incoherent and irrational post, especially the line about seeking bliss. What that’s supposed to mean I have no idea.
However, the bit about the Iranian President may need more analysis that what it’s received if an article in the Georgia Straight by Murray Dobbin is accurate.
“The first order of business was to demonize Iran’s fundamentalist Shia president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, portraying him not just as dangerous but as a madman. This is the goal behind the myth that on October 26 last year he called for “wiping Israel from the map”. The Manchester Guardian, in an article on June 2, 2006, took the trouble to have a Farsi translator look at Ahmadinejad’s infamous speech. He said no such thing. He was actually quoting from a statement by Ayatollah Khomeini, that “this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time,” pointing out that the U.S.–backed Shah’s regime in Iran didn’t last forever.”
Commentary
Harper to back Iran strike?
By murray dobbin
Publish Date: 5-Oct-2006
http://www.straight.com/content.cfm?id=20991
It’s pure racist fantasy. Over here in the UK I get drunk and smoke pot with the children of muslim immigrants. Perhaps they’re secretly waiting to kill me but I’m a bit skeptical of that.
In the early 70s in Toronto we had racist fantasies about all those no good Italian and Portugese immigrants that were going to ruin the city. Being the son of Spanish immigrants I was well acquainted with those. What you’re expousing here is a different dog but it’s got the same fleas.
If you go back far enough most of you probably have ancestors who were of an ethnicity that wasn’t welcome by large swathes of “real” Canadians. But Islamic people are terrorists, well so were the Irish until ten years ago (but we don’t want to think about that do we?).
I don’t expect to change anyone’s minds most people here seem to partisan for that but I encourage you to take a whiff of what you’re shoveling.
Jose: good points, but the immigration rate (and breadth of strata in society of immigrants) in the 60s and 70s was a fraction of what it is today, in Toronto, Canada, the UK, and elsewhere.
Multiculturalism as official policy here and in the UK is both untested and unwise and we are seeing the negative externalities with increasing frequency these days.
Tell you what: let’s agree to return immigration rates back to what it was in the 70s and we can both be pro-immigration, deal? Because right now the Conservatives have actually *increased* immigration and Ignatieff is running on a platform of increasing the annual immigration rate from 250,000 a year to – get this – *eight hundred thousand* (800,000) a year!
So in the interest of smoothly integrating new immigrants to Canada, let’s cut the rate of immigration in half via a more selective process, a rate which would still be more than it was in the 70s. Everybody is still pro-immigration, everybody wins! What say you?
Alex, I agree with the intent of your comments. However, even after over 3000 were murdered, in broad daylight, ON CAMERA, in NY, by Islamofacsists, many in the West still don’t get it. Why do you think they might if hundreds in Toronto were being killed? Really, what will make the doubters change their brainwashed minds? I’m interested in your ideas on this.
And the lefties can–and will, as is their wont– continue to dream on. It’s their children or ours, Ken: That’s the only choice. What will yours be?
ET, thanks for your realistic and robust comments.
I actually know more about immigration in the UK now than I do in Canada. And that immigration does seem to be necessary to pick up the slack in the job market and to make up for the fact that about 600,000 Brits emigrate a year. So yes the level of immigration is unprecedent but so the low birth (and the UK does subsidize having babies, we’ve got plenty of welfare moms over here churning them out) rate and the rate of emmigration (don’t see that changing unless global warming makes the British winter less miserable).
Mind you with the EU expansion the big wave of immigrants that are now coming from Eastern Europe and they’re integrating just fine. I like the Polish they’re hard working and the women are fantastic.
The Muslims have integrated well too, most of the guys under 40 are thoroughly British. I know many of them who came here to coin up and then buy property back home but their plans have changed they’re now too western and modern to tolerate life in their former countries. Sure you have a couple of crazies like ol’ hook hand but the overwhelming trend is for the UK changing them not the other way around. That’s a good thing.
But I like your spirit of comprimise Bob. If it was up to me I’d be happy to offer conservatives prayer in schools, lots of fun with guns and even Creation class in grade three if we can at least pretend that getting off petro might be a good thing. But alas it doesn’t work like that.
Maybe Jose could return with some reasonable contribution, sometime when he’s neither drunk nor high. Couldn’t he provide a better reference for himself?
And his post is utter twaddle: To equate the immigration of sound citizens from all over the globe, a phenomenon supported by everyone at this site, with the bubonic plague of Islamofascism is both dishonest and entirely despicable.
Go away, Jose.
September 11th, as horrible as it was, was a one time event. People need a constant reminder. If the terrorists had succeeded in attacking us a few more times in the months following 9/11, or sporadically over the last 5 years, the “war-on-terror” would enjoy much more widespread support. Sure, you’d still have the pro-appeasement lunatics on the far left, but they’re there in any conflict and tend to be a small minority.
As it is though, most people can’t accept the idea that “a bunch of guys in a cave” could actually hurt us. Ironically enough it’s a form of racism coming from the very people who LOVE to call conservatives racist. These people have convinced themselves that only us westerners can wreak havoc and destruction, and that little brown guys running around in a desert could never really hurt us. All the bickering about 9/11 centers on that assumption. There’s people insisting 9/11 was done BY the government, others insisting the government allowed it to happen, still others insisting it was due to Bush’s incompetence, and other factions bickering about who was responsible for “the massive screwup”. All these people assume that an event like 9/11 could only happen because of something that WE did, or failed to do. Now, give the terrorists a higher success rate, and that assumption is no longer so easy to accept. Have them succeeding once a month and people will start to think “wait a second…maybe these guys really ARE dangerous…”.
“Our kids”, despite being raised in our school system, have done a great job of killing any Taliban and al Quada types they’ve come across. We’ve losty 40 soldiers. the enemy has lost hundreds kiled by Canadians, and the Afghans have home field advantage. “Our kids” are better fighters and are better armed than the enemy in the field. In fact, the reason the Islamic fascists use terror tactics is precisely because they do not want to face “our kids” on the battlefield, and feel confident of victory when they use stealth and treachery to attack Western civilians.
In World War II, the Japanese resorted to suicide tactics precisely because our kids had whupped their ass in the Pacific Islands. I’m afraid Celestial Junk’s argument falls apart pretty fast.
As Jose said: NK soldiers have “lots of fun with guns”.
Moonguy, the only one in uniform, 2nd from the left, is Kim’s Stalinist Commissar.
The pic was smuggled out of NK by Tongsun Park, with the connivance of Maurice Kyoto Strong. …-
Caption the pic. (North Korean soldiers)
North Korean soldiers react to being photographed while exercising at an army installation on
the banks of the Yalu River at the North Korean town of Sinuiju, opposite the Chinese
border city of Dandong, October 10, 2006. …-
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1717083/posts
Alex,
The level of terrorism you’re talking about was seen in London within living memory but it didn’t turn the English off the Irish they still get along just fine.
And most of us were horrified by 9/11 and supported Afghanistan. You didn’t see massive worldwide protests denouncing that action did you? It’s mostly Iraq and torture that we don’t like but that might just be our utopian fantasies clouding our judgement.
Jose: Please post your evidence that Italians or the Irish cut of heads. Remember, the immans preach that to get to heaven a muslim must kill an infide. That is a non believer in the muslim faith. I think you take an infidel to be an abbreviation for someone who is cheating on his/her spouse. What would your reaction be if the Pope ordered all catholics to kill all non catholics if they want to get to heaven and all catholic teachers preached this day in and day out in class. Or if the Queen gave all Anglicans the same message. How about the Quaram of 12, in Utah, giving the order to all LDS. Imagine Billy Graham saying kill a muslim during one of his crusades. There would be universal outrage, but the muslims preach this killing and you all say, oh they don’t mean it. Muslims have killed more muslims than any western army. They all want to get to heaven, as death is the greatest, so lets nuke them all and give them their wish. Deport all of them from Canada, as they are supporters of what is going on, by their silence. And, if you were drinking and smoking with a muslim, that is against their faith, so watch it, they will be killed as infidels and you might be in the crossfire. Aren’t you ashamed of leading good muslims astray. Shame on you.
That is the reason I want the West to go hard now. Selfishly, I want the next 30-50 year period between major global conflicts to begin within 5 years. I have 1 child, a young son.
I will happily pay high taxes and offer daily prayers for our military who are, I believe, fighting more truly for our way of life than any before them. Contemplate your daughter in a burka.
Jack Layton, the Liberals and Quebec can go to hell for their shortsightedness.
Interesting points. Noted today a Taliban spokesman saying we can’t win this war, we will be defeated and driven out of Iraq, with the country left to them.
Doesn’t the NDP argue the same thing? Maybe that’s why they want to negotiate with the Taliban. It amazes me the NDP fight to worker rights, for womens’ rights, for the poor’s rights. In Canada that is, and certainly not in Afghanistan.
I have trouble with the notion that, if there had been more attacks post 9/11, the war on terror would have more support, and therefore more chance of success. HUH!! Britain was attacked, Indonesia, Spain and others were attacked. Where is their resolve on war on terror?
We have managed to fend of a large-scale attack on North America; so far. If we give the Islamic fascists another base for operations, count on a large, possibly, NBCW, attack.
We must use force now to defeat the terrorists (diffcult without Pakistani cooperation), before we can even think of reconstruction, hearts and minds, development or modernization. Islam must also reform itself to truly isolate, and defeat the Islamofascists, who have done far more harm to Musllim than anyone else.