A retired major snapped digital pictures of several people relieving themselves on the [ National War Memorial] around 11 p.m. on Saturday, as thousands poured into the streets following the fireworks.
Most cheered and laughed when they were photographed using the memorial as a toilet on the nation’s birthday.
The Legion is again calling for a guard to be stationed at the memorial to prevent such occurances. That shouldn’t be necessary.
There was a time when a public assault on the memory of war dead would have been quickly addressed by witnesses taking the offender into the street for a discussion with closed fists.
Today they take digital photos. Mark up another victory for the left.
Via Nealenews.
As an aside – after reviewing the comments, I spotted this gem (among others like it);
“strike up another victory for the left”…so you are 100% sure they were ALL left leaning, huh? Your proof being? Or more right wing retoric?
Posted by: swingvoter at July 4, 2006 01:04 AM
To which I can only respond – and mark up another failure for the education system. My God, the inability of some of the lefties here to read and comprehend the written word is disheartening. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again – poor reading comprehension truly seems to be a critical underpinning of leftist “reasoning”.
You see it in comments like the one from “swingvoter”, the admission from “mary jane” that she did not understand what I wrote – and we see it each and every day from “steve d.” who appears completely incapable of reading and comprehending the most clearly explained concept (nevermind historical fact), even when it is offered with the best of intentions.
All of you – steve d, maryjane, swingvoter, agitfact – please stop commenting, or begin using your real names, so that there is a chance, however remote, that those who were responsible for your primary education will feel at least a little of the shame they deserve in having failed you.
The stupid prick in the picture looks like he needs a good caning to help him sober up.
Surprised they didn’t blame Bush or the “evil” Americans on this ‘youts’ disgusting behaviour.
They, the idiots, should be made to clean the monument – when they sober up.
I thought public urination was against the law?
Was the last time I lived in Ontario.
I’m becoming so jaded I expect this guy to file a human rights abuse claim…. sigh.
Would the war dead be resurrected; they would be showing the ‘pissants’ the pointy end of a bayonet or a bullet creasing their cranium.
Given the pissants have no self-respect; they only serve to disgrace themselves.
You show your thankfulness to those who die on behalf of their country, defending its freedoms, by pissing on their graves!?! All the while you have troops in the field, taking the occasional bullet, IED, or RPG in Afghanistan.
I’m glad these bastions of moral genius have got their priorities all worked out. Philistines one and all. Their bladders seem to be functioning, but the space between their ears indicates a profound vacuum.
This is utterly disgusting but not unexpected. After 13 years of decimating and denigrating the Military why should we expect anything else?
Sadly this will not be treated as a crime–but can you imagine what would have happened to him if he had pulled the same stunt at a Holacaust memorial or a Mosque? Only in Canada would this despicable person get away with this. After all, these soldiers fought and died for the freedom this ignoramus pi**es on.
I thought this was against the law–no matter the target–they have his picture–why is he still free?????
Draft the bastards and send em to Afghanistan.
I’m all for arresting or “otherwise dealing with” these yahoos…
This guy is just lucky he wasn’t photographed urinating on a mosque.
No Rick, our soldiers would never urinate on any war memorial, these scumbags wouldn’t ever qualify for the professionalism that our forces display.
I say send them to Saudi Arabia for a summer vacation give them a taste of ‘reality’ that no tv show would dare produce.
I say sick that Prime Minister of yours they call what? Captain Canada. Yeah, him.
He’ll tell these punks off.
Things like this are enough to make me rather misty-eyed and nostalgic for the days of public branding and floggings in the town square.
Post all the faces of the young men everywhere, on the front pages of all the national newspapers, on TV, online, and rewards for anyone who can identify them.
Then lock the jerks up for a week or two, and sign them up for “sensitivity training” with a couple of veterans for their parole.
I’d like to see the PMO step up to the plate on this one with funding for guard staff ASAP.
Rick said: “send em to Afghanistan”
Trouble is these hooligans can’t find their brains, can barely hold or find their members, and certainly couldn’t aim a rifle.
If you gave them a gun they might just shoot themselves, earning themselves instead of a medal of distinction a Darwin Award instead.
This would be genetic natural self selection.
An Utter Disgracefull & Disrespectfull Act:
Our countries continous lack of respect for those who served & those that gave the ultimate sacrifice goes right to our lack of education in how the men & women have served & still serve their country. Iam a firm believer that this education must start at the top & that is we should be reconizing the 11thday of the 11thmonth as a national day of mourning & NO STORES OPEN.(currently only a few provinces) Why is it that only government workers & some industry where as it was negotiated in the contract that it is a day off? I attend our local ceremony every year(I take it as a day off my holiday’s) & i watch every year the numbers of vets diminishing & the crowds are also diminishing.
If this direspectfull hooligan was ever cought he would only get a slap on the wrist anyways thanks to the liberals hug a thug theories.
I can only hope since the recent actions of PM Harper right from restoring the proper proticol of the flag to the spending announcements that we finaly have a PM that will change Canadians veiws of past & present Veteran’s.
Josef in Am. the Captain Canada Pm was the guy we just got rid of They also called him Mr.Dithers, the new PM is Mr.Decisive, gets things done.
Settle down. There is no indication that this was deliberately done in order to show disrespect. The downtown is completely choked during C-Day. There’s literally no place to go, in both senses of the word. It was some drunken yahoos looking for a place to pee, not people making political statements. Post Port-O-Potties, not police officers. Problem solved.
Why do they watch the fireworks if they don’t care about Canada? How could Canadians put on fireworks if it weren’t for the defense of Canada up until now?
Do they think once-a-year fireworks can take the place of all-year-every-year standing-on-guard firepower? If so, they have no idea how quickly they would be living bleak grey lives under a totalitarian state with no fireworks at all.
Maybe we should cancel fireworks until they can sober up and show some respect.
Kate,
you are letting your feelings for the left swap over a 63-year old retired major of the Dental Corps who took digital pictures instead of wading into a bunch of drunken yahoos and straightening them out with “closed fists.”
He could have done so and have gone out in a blaze of glory. But putting this picture on front pages was a far more effective way of solving this problem once and for all.
Do blame the left if you must, but change the “Today they take digital photos” part of your post.
I sincerely doubt that these guys are leftists. They’re drunken idiots. And while the Canadian military has mostly killed and died for, first, the British Empire and, now, the American Empire, it also fought the Nazis. And of course most of its members joined (and join) because they were (and are) desperate for some kind of job and most were (and are) vicitms of propaganda and knew (and know) no better. It’s sad and I don’t condone urinating on the monument.
Dr. Dawg. Your comment and solution does not suprise me. It is always esier to place the blame anywhere but on the asshole who does the crime.
I am not surprised,with all the emotional responses,no one has bothered to mention the real cause…rampant alcohol use by our youth.If these people were f*cked up on weed,ecstacy or cocaine instead,you’d be screeming about the evils of drugs.But no,we accept the untold suffering and carnage created by alcohol abuse,after all,we’ve been told it is acceptable,it is even advertised in our society.
Where are the anti-drug zealots when this drug DAILY raises it’s ugly head? Politically correct hypocrates….you don’t see sober youths pissing on our memorials.
A truly sad display but does it really surprise anyone? From pierre the pig’s values to pre Harper does that type of behavior really surprise you? Only recently have I started to spell Country with an o. Hopefully Harper will keep my spelling on track and give us all back a country and a country with values that can be respected.
Well, seeing as how we can’t draft them and send them into a war zone, I think the least we can do is beat them to a pulp and “relieve” ourselves on their person!!
What have we got to look forward to or how can we take solace in knowing that these punks will be the leaders of tomorrow?!
Nothing to do and all day to do it in makes for a rotted, twisted mind. The likes of which have been demonstrated by these irresponsible jerks !
A true shame and a direct reflection of how they were raised !
Booze or drug abuse is no justifcation for this kind of action. Why do people continuley to try to deflect the blame away from these clowns.
so if the police can’t find the manpower to protect this natinal monument on “party days” why don’t we sue the Grens & the GGFg troops who are in Ottawa all summer'”standing guard” over at the GG’s house.
Put a couple of platoons around the monument, put up some simpek fencingh and light the place up . . . then asshats like the one in the photo could be “educated” if they chose to desecrate such a national monument.
Wouldn’t cost a penney . . . no overtime for soldiers and the fencing lights are common military stores.
Someone in Ottawa should ID that moron so we can get his name and address published. Maybe he’d think twice if he found himslef being honored as the national dildo of the year.
I got a feeling this story is far from over.
somebody is going to make some phone calls and act behind the scenes. unbelieveable disrespect.
and the social engineering leftists excuse it all with the great mantra ‘they wuz drunks at the times sose they arentsk responsibles for dere actshuns’
RobC,nice,typically emotional rah,rah post.NOBODY is saying they should NOT be held accountable,I just pointed out the blatant hypocrasy of our current drug culture and the role it played here!
Please,get your head out of the sand and THINK before you type!Alcohol abuse by our youth is indeed rampant,and causes far more damage and heartbreak in our society than wet monuments.Or are you the only Canadian left who has not had their life’touched’by a drunken driver?
Maybe you could consider some steps to keep these things from occurring in the first place,instead of pointlessly demanding blood after the fact,when you know damn well this society will NOT mete out adequate justice…
There is no exuse for public drunkeness, and never mind if there are no places to go have a leak, then either find a place or piss your damm pants it is still an act of disrespect to desicreat any memorial site.
Canandian Observer> As a recovering alcoholic I don’t need your “holier than thou” bullshit about how it affects everyone. Alcoholism is not an illness it is a weakness.Been there done that. I am still accepting the concequences of my stupidity.
This is the first time I have really looked at the comments on this site. I am taken aback by the sheer nastiness and the threats of violence. Who are you people??
This is the first time I have really looked at the comments on this site. I am taken aback by the sheer nastiness and the threats of violence. Who are you people??
We are the pissed off patiots who are sick of what the left has done to denigrate our society.
In short, we are your antithesis leftie!
A nauseating sense of entitlement has become entrenched in modern society. Just as these hooligans care nothing for the sacrifice of the servicemen whose lives protected their freedom, most beneficiaries of the welfare state care nothing for the financial burden imposed on taxpayers to support them. Those who decry subsidy of sloth, ignorance, and depravity are lambasted as greedy racist haters.
In short, we are your antithesis leftie!
Well, without getting all binary about it, I suppose you’re right. I for one want to prevent crime; others here simply want to punish it. Left versus Right sensibilities, in a nutshell.
RobC,I see with your personal experience,you should be the first to agree with the hypocracy of alcohol being readily available to our youth.
And,sorry,but being an alcoholic does not give YOU the’holier than thou’right to talk as if you are the ONLY one with a valid opinion on the evils of alcohol in our society.
Sincerely,I wish you the best and hope you ultimately prevail over your’weakness’!
The outrage is more than justified over this.
The leftie response is typically lame or loopy – ‘big deal’, ‘so what’, ‘where else were the drunks supposed to ‘relieve’ themselves, boo hoo’.
The police response was also typical – ‘what could we do?’, ‘crowd too big to handle’, ‘no can do’. In other words, useless.
Next time they should rope the memorial off as a ‘keep out’ zone and post a military contingent nearby to ‘enforce’ it.
DR.D: You want to prevent these acts ans i take it from what you have posted you live in the Ottawa area. So instead of talking, then walk the talk & support the groups that have been asking for several years for guards to be posted. The R.C.Legion has been asking for guards to be posted for several years now & we also state that it should not even be neccessary, and they also noted that hooligans had been observed last year pouring beer all over the Memorial. Acts of hooliganism, vandalism, desicretion or whatever should not be slugded off, this is a national Memorial site.
So therefor get off the horse if you want to prevent these actions in further & do something about it.
Dawg: “I for one want to prevent crime; others here simply want to punish it.”
You’re being sanctimonius as well as obtuse. It isn’t either/or – it’s both. We all want to prevent crime. When that fails crime should be punished. This was a crime.
Leftist said:
“I am taken aback by the sheer nastiness and the threats of violence. Who are you people??”
Frankly I found your referece to Canadians fighting and dying for the “American Empire” quite nasty. You also mentioned fighting and dying for the “British Empire”. That’s nasty too.
For “American Empire”? NO. Against, global expansionary islamofascism.
For “British Empire”? NO. Against, global expansionary naziism, then global expansionary communism.
Who are YOU, and why are YOU now figurately pissing on the graves of dead soldiers?
Your blog de plume is “Leftist”. You mustn’t lecture about “nastiness and threats of violence”. The left caused about 100,000,000 deaths in the 20th century seeking utopia — breaking eggs while making no omeletes.
I would describe your post as moral narcissism.
Crime is prevented in nearly all cases where the price is greater than the benefit of the crime.
crime and punishment, crime and punishment
goes together like a horse hand carriagement
you can’t have one with out the other.
Dawg would prefer we assign a social worker to each offender to shadow them like a guardian angel who can try to reason for them at each potential offence. This is called a job-creation opportunity in Ottawa.
New York City got cleaned up and made to be a citizen friendly, safe, crime-free city by throwing all offenders in jail for a long stretch. It worked and everyone is happy except the offenders.
However, this is unacceptable on the Canadian left because they ‘feel’ that the offenders should be happy too.
Such caring …
“All things in moderation” No I don’t have the ONLY valid opinion I have MY opinion. In Calgary, the Center Street Bridge is available for jumpers but one would think that a responsible decision for a person would be not to use it for that purpose. Availablility, or unavailibility has nothing to do with accepting responsibility for ones personal choices or actions.
There is no record of them pissing on monuments of any sort when the Lieberals were in power. Now that the Conservatives are in…well the evidence is that…apparently anything goes.
Dr Dawg,do not despair,I for one noticed you at least offered a plausible partial solution…people here today seem mainly to want to vent and demand someone’s head(of course,the little pr*cks should be punished),but it is all hot air with our current(lack of)justice system.
You saw the reaction I got when I tried to expand the boundaries of the discussion…
If this is how a cross section of conservatives honestly feel about a Canada wide problem,well,now I’m depressed because it has been left to us(by liberalism)to solve this degeneration of responsibility in our society.
JR,I applaud you also for offering some plausible solutions,however,do we post guards across Canada to keep drunken youths from dessicrating our churches,monuments,graves,etc.?
I submit we MUST be more pro-active in instilling MORALS in our youth and make at least SOME effort to make alcohol difficult for them to get.
Again,alcohol is NOT an excuse for these little sh*ts actions,but it is certainly a MAJOR catalyst.
The utter lack of respect and empathy for others combined with alcohol abuse are what we should be working on solutions for today…
Steve,
By that logic, you are blaming Stephen Harper for the pissing??
That is perfect Lib-logic
CO, I certainly agree that more respect and better behaviour need to be instilled in our youth. But that’s a long term project and given that the ‘progressives’ have taken over most of the school system I don’t hold out much hope for its success – at least any time soon. Meanwhile…..
John
Just pointing out the obvious. Pissing was never a problem…until now. Probably just a coincidence. You know, Harper’s in power, people start pissing on monuments. Just a coincidence. Now if it were Lieberals in power we would know the cause.
steved–no one had to piss on a Monument to our soldiers while the Liberals were in power–the Liberals did that for them!
As for sending this creep to Afghanistan–I suggest instead that we register all penises in Canada–should only cost about $2M–then we wouldn’t need pictures of their faces to see who did it–we would have them by the –you know–if only one monument is saved it would be worth it!
“Lest we forget!”
It seems that the left have forgotten! Reading this thread as well as some history books we see the left were against Hitler’s expansionism then and are against our counter-attack on the terrorist plots that surround us now. In my personal opinion they are more going to war than thet are of becoming Nazi’s or having their religion changed at the barrel of a gun. They should thank their lucky stars there are Conservatives around that will save their sorry asses and allow them to continue to preach their fear of war(dying)!
“I sincerely doubt that these guys are leftists. They’re drunken idiots. And while the Canadian military has mostly killed and died for, first, the British Empire and, now, the American Empire, it also fought the Nazis. And of course most of its members joined (and join) because they were (and are) desperate for some kind of job and most were (and are) vicitms of propaganda and knew (and know) no better. It’s sad and I don’t condone urinating on the monument.”
This is an example of one that is afraid to die for his rights or the rights of his pathetic (future) family. We can only hope that this guys kids rebel against anything he stands for and they proudly state to their father “I do not agree with what you have to say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it!”
I sometimes wonder if these twits ever look up what happened to those in the former U.S.S.R. and the People’s Republic of China when they spoke out of turn or rebelled against the state.
steve d.
The drunken sots were how old? About 18? By your logic we should note that they learned most of their manners under a Liberal regime. Just a coincidence? You be the judge.
JR,..aha!..someone gets it!
We need to somehow,start cleaning this’moral mess’ASAP!In the meantime,how about we lobby for tougher sentences(based on ALREADY existing laws)from our’pussified’judges?
Even a 5 yr old will behave when they understand boundaries and swift consequences.
Also,we need to better control access to booze by our youth,I would be open to any constructive ideas as we have already dug ourselves a deep hole with this drug…
Oh,and John,don’t worry about trolls,ET will be along any minute to save the day!
Sorry my post should have read:
“Reading this thread as well as some history books we see the left were against our dealing with Hitler’s expansionism then and are against our counter-attack on the terrorist plots that surround us now.”