“Did you know that the Jews murdered 25 of the Prophets of Allah, and that their black history is full of crimes of murder and corruption?
“Did you know that the criminal Jews frequently revile and curse our Lord? Among the things they have said is ‘The hand of Allah is fettered [Koran 5:64].’ [But] Allah is above this.
“Did you know that the Jews made several attempts to murder our beloved Prophet [Muhammad], but that Allah the Omnipotent saved him from their plot?
“Did you know that the corruption and deviance widespread in the world today are the result of activity and planning by the Jews, who are interested in leading people astray, away from the path of Allah?
Another antisemitic posting, in the “Members Participation” section, headlined “Murdering Children – Part of the Jewish Religion” by “Mahmoud Nabil,” claims that it is possible “to collect evidence from the Torah about the Jewish concept of annihilating [others], which has reached the level of ritual.”
More translation of the Muslim Brotherhood Children’s Website* up at Memri.
Too bad the authors of trash like this can’t be brought up on hate crime charges or some form of human rights violations. But I suppose the countries they reside in have no concept of human decency, let alone human rights legislation.
What a bunch of sick minds, run amok to poison the minds and souls of their own children.
oooOOOooh…I love nursery rhymes…
A Christian is defined as “…of Christ or his teaching; believing in, professing, or belonging to the religion of Christ…” (Oxford English Dictionary). According to this definition, anyone who “belongs” to a religion that follows Christ would be recorded as a Christian. This does NOT mean that everyone who belongs to such a religion is “Christ-like”.
Protestants and Catholics have been battling in Great Britain for centuries…they self-profess to be Christians, but I would not say they are “Christ-like”. I don’t know anything about Hitler’s choice in religion, but if he belonged to such a Christian religion, then by definition he would be a Christian…but he wasn’t “Christ-like”.
I would be happy if someone were to change the definition of Christian to mean “one who patterns his life and behaviour after that of Christ”…then we could say with certainty that no Christians hate or have ever hated Jews (or anyone else for that matter). However, until you can successfully change the definition of Christian (similar to how the homosexual community has changed the definition of the word tolerance), then we have to accept that some “Christians” have hated others and done horrible, horrible things and that the rest of the world will be able to point to that as a “truth”.
Some contributers here seem to be suggesting that Christians are innocent and pure, to which I would respond that “TRUE Christians” strive mightily for innocence and purity, but that other “self-professing Christians” are just pagans like the rest of the world and subject to their same faults.
Sorry about this long post. Hitler may have been raised as a Christian, but he wanted to get rid of Christians in the same way he wanted to get rid of Jews – because they had a moral conscience, which in Hitler’s view made them “weak”. Maybe he could be called a Christian-hating Christian. Believe me there have been many, and I know some personally –
Jew-hating Jews.
http://www.nationalreview.com/shiflett/shiflett012102.shtml
“You mean Hitler wasn’t a priest?”
“Hitler was indeed a baptized Catholic, but his rejection of the faith was profound. “My pedagogy is strict,” he once explained. “I want a powerful, masterly, cruel and fearless youth… There must be nothing weak or tender about them. The freedom and dignity of the wild beast must shine from their eyes… That is how I will root out a thousand years of human domestication.”
http://www.aish.com/literacy/jewishhistory/Crash_Course_in_Jewish_History_Part_61_-_The_Final_Solution.asp
Hitler believed that before monotheism and the Jewish ethical vision came along, the world operated according to the laws of nature and evolution: survival of the fittest. The strong survived and the weak perished. But in a world operating according to a Divinely-dictated ethical system — where a God-given standard applies and not anyone’s might — the weak did not need to fear the strong. As Hitler saw it, the strong were emasculated and he blamed the Jews for this.
His plan was to take over the world and set up a barbarian master race – a plan that he came very close to executing. But to do so, he had to get rid of the Jews first. As he said:
“The Ten Commandments have lost their validity… Conscience is a Jewish invention. It is a blemish like circumcision … The struggle for world domination is fought entirely between us, between the Germans and the Jews.”
(See Hermann Rauschning, Hitler Speaks, pp. 220, 242.)
We might recall (see Part 53) that it was one of Germany’s biggest thinkers of the 19th century — Wilhelm Marr — who coined the term “anti-Semitism.” In so doing he wanted to distinguish hatred of the Jews as members of a religion (anti-Judaism) from hatred of the Jews as members of a race/nation (anti-Semitism). In 1879, he wrote a book called The Victory of Judaism over Germandom, a runaway best-seller; in it Marr warned:
“There is no stopping them [the Jews]. Are there no clear signs that the twilight of the Jews is setting in? No. Jewry’s control of society and politics as well as its domination of religious and ecclesiastical thought is still in the prime of its development. Yes, through the Jewish nation Germany will become a world power, a western new Palestine. And this will happen not through violent revolution but through the compliance of the people. We should not reproach the Jewish nation. It fought against the western world for 1,800 years and finally conquered it. We were vanquished. The Jews were late in their assault on Germany but once started there was no stopping them …
“I am marshalling my last remaining strength in order to die peacefully as one who will not surrender and who will not ask for forgiveness. The historical fact that Israel became the leading social political superpower in the 19th century lies before us. We have amongst us a flexible, tenacious, intelligent foreign tribe that knows how to bring abstract reality into play in many different ways. Not individual Jews but the Jewish spirit and Jewish consciousness have overpowered the world. All this is the consequence of a cultural history so unique in its way, so grand that every day polemic can achieve nothing against it. With the entire force of its armies the proud Roman Empire did not achieve that which Semitism has achieved in the West and particularly in Germany.”
Keep in mind that when Marr wrote these words, the State of Israel did not exist, nor was there even a hint in the geo-political situation that it might come into being anytime soon. Marr, in speaking of the Jewish national threat, was speaking about the great ideological struggle of Jewish worldview versus paganism, which had been playing out throughout Jewish history. We saw it between the Greeks and the Jews (Part 27) and between the Romans and the Jews (Part 33).
Hitler saw it as continuing between the Germans and the Jews.
maz2,
All I can say is you were wrong about nuclear energy and your snake analogy is way of the mark.
I’m seeking answers and solutions to stop hatred. If you have any let us know apart from that don’t make uninformed accusations.
Why the Jewish hate? It seems that the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood , wined and dined with high level Nazis in Gremany , including Hitler during WW2 , and at the end of the war more than a few Nazis found their way to places like Syria … so just connect the dots.
Wow! Talk about a button being pushed, I’m almost afraid to write anything lest it be analyzed word by word.
As a Catholic, albeit not a good one in the traditional sense, I have had the pleasure of working and being friends with people of many religious persuasions. Most if not all of them lived by some very fundamental values such as generosity, tolerance, kindness, forgiveness honesty, you get the idea. None of them wanted each other’s head on a stick probably because they and their religion had evolved.
I believe, and this is only my opinion here, that the fundamentalist beliefs that didn’t tolerate others can be traced back to when religion and politics were one in the same. It was when the entire village, town, country or even ethnic group believed in the same thing(deity) and anyone who didn’t was an outsider and therefore a possible enemy. It is unfortunate that today some people/religions still carry that feeling and/or attitude.
BTW, the Muslims I’ve had the pleasure to know did not wear burkas, didn’t try to blow themselves up and the one who was the most devout for a lack of a better term, prayed the five times daily and fasted at ramadon but was still able to discus different beliefs and religion without trying to slice off my head or that of our Hindu coworker.
ex-liberal says….
Fundamentalist Atheists find common cause with Islam because they both want to put an end to Christians and Jews?
since when were atheists allied with islam ?
Ima
“Again, in every lie is a grain of truth”
That absolute is a lie without a grain of truth!
Good one ET, Maz2 and Scott Merrithew
Bogswallop
“It’s almost like Jewish people want to be persecuted/hated and feel guilty.”
Which is the way the Jews want it ,.. they want to be hated/ persecuted /gassed / nuked
Unf*@$inghinged.
“It’s almost like Jewish people want to be persecuted/hated and feel guilty”
Trodwell,
Your mirror is not reflecting anymore it’s projecting, you selfloathing flake!
“It’s almost like” the lefty contrarian defeatist relativists want to be nuked.
richfisher,
Great comment. It’s always a treat when the know it all says nothing.
Your lips are moving but no one can hear you speak.
I’m typing you idiot.
Spike,
I guess by Fundamentalist Atheist I mean the loony left, LLL, Bush=Hitler crowd
sorry, I didn’t mean to offend non-liberal atheists
I will not lower myself to your level of crudeness and disrespect, richfisher. It would be just swell if you could raise yourself up just a smidge from the muck and try to contain your venom a bit. I had taken it from earlier postings on other threads that you were a Christian…your language of late does not support that, so I must have been mistaken.
Regardless, I will close off my participation on this thread (you’re welcome, richfisher and penny) by 1) admitting that my quote may have been a bit MISquoted…I believe the more correct quote is “Every good lie is the STRONGER for a grain of truth”; 2) my use of that quote was not meant to suggest that it is an irrefutable truth…so give it a rest; and 3) you haven’t offered any facts to counter my input…just an outright dismissal (much as we claim leftists do).
So, enjoy your ranting and have your last word…I hope it makes you feel better…you seem to be so full of bitterness in your postings lately. Try to have a nice day.
What is “balance”, Ima?
Are we allowed to be judgemental, does every blame pie need to be divided in half?
Takin the high road, yes please don’t lower yourself.
“Hey we’re only supporting Nazi propaganda, man cool out, take a chill pill.
What’s the harm!”
“The real focus of our discusion of teaching Hitlers word to children should be the emotional condition of the offended.
That will add balance!”
Is it OK to be offended more by antisemitism then a fake swear word, or must we remain forever relativists?
Sorry, I will respond…but seriously, this is it. I have no idea how you managed to connect anything I said to supporting Hitler or advancing Nazi propaganda in any way, shape or form…I vehemently deny any such intent. If my words were so sloppy as to suggest this, I profusely apologize to any and all who’ve inferred anything of the sort.
I believe that an objective reading of my posts would exonerate me in this regard…but words are so easy to misinterpret, particularly when read in conjunction with other independent posts. Therefore, I humbly request everyone’s forgiveness for any unintentional pain or consternation my sloppy words may have incurred.
If, as it turns out, my words were misinterpreted by you, then you have my unqualified forgiveness, richfisher (if you should choose to accept it).
PS: It’s not just been your faux cursing, richfisher, it’s also the tone of your recent postings…seemingly very venomous.
I just assumed that because Christians were inciting anti-semitism by blaming Jews for Jesus’ crucifixion for hundreds of years before Islam existed and Islam holds Jesus as a great prohet(we know how they love their prophets)it seems a reasonable assumption that Islam would merely be following our lead.
If course we like focusing the new Jews, the Muslim.
I hope I am not making anyone a little uneasy.
Of course, we are just focusing our hate on terrorist Muslims not the good kind. Just like we never hated all Jews just the world conspiracy Jews. In real life we can’t tell the difference between the good ones and the bad ones so you may as well hate’em all.
steve d:
assume less, read more
Ryan
I have,two College Diplomas, three University degrees one of which is a Master of Theology, and you have…I know, judging from your remark, an abbreviated education.