CTV;
One man is dead following an explosion at a Tim Hortons restaurant in downtown Toronto.
The blast occurred in the washroom of the coffee shop located near the intersection of Yonge and Bloor Streets, just after 1 p.m.
Emergency crews responded to the scene and tried to help the victim. Fire department spokesman Daryl Fuglerud said the man had burns to his body. They do not know if he was a customer or an employee.
No details or speculation yet as to the cause, but all joking about “natural gas” aside, a washroom wouldn’t seem to be the likely place for an explosion.
Continuing updates – over radio: The man killed was wearing the explosives, his body is still at the scene. He is not an employee, but has not been identified … Another evacuation is underway at a different Tim Hortons, because of a suspicious package…
Commentor “BC Monkey” writes;
That Timmie’s is directly besides the subway entrance to Yonge/Bloor station, the busiest subway station in Toronto. […] Just watched the 6 o’clock news. There is another Timmie’s shut off for a suspicious package at Lawrence and Yonge, that’s about 8 km north of the first incident, yes, near another station. (Though I doubt this second Timmie’s will amount to much.)
Update II – CTV is now reporting the man carried a can of gasoline into the washroom.
According to police, another man smelled gasoline fumes and ran out, yelling. A few moments later the blast occurred.
Investigators do not know what ignited the gasoline or what the deceased man’s motives were. Suspicion is focusing on either suicide or arson. They say he was definitely not a terrorist.
“He’s not a strap-on al-Qaida bomber guy,” Toronto Police Staff Sgt. Don Cole said Sunday evening. “It sounds to me like a guy who either wanted to do a torch job or commit suicide.”
[…]
Toronto’s police chief, Bill Blair, declined to discuss the possibility of a bomb.
He described the blast as “a very hot and intense fire in an enclosed area within the washroom.”
The police bomb squad worked at the scene for much of the afternoon.
Bizarre.
New info on Tim’s blast:
http://thecanadiansentinel.blogspot.com/2006/04/police-not-telling-all-about-tims.html
Find the “red herring” in the Red Star headline; winner gets a free pass. +
Police cheer PM’s tough talk
But Harper draws some negative reaction for proposal to scrap long-gun registry
Apr. 3, 2006. 03:40 PM
JIM BROWN
CANADIAN PRESS +
http://www.paulding.net/bin/url.cgi/13241.13
Bomb squad would have been gone in 1 hour tops if someone set themselves on fire with gasoline. And why would gas make the roof collapse.
I think they are lying.
Speakin of blowed up!
Liberal/Mafia member Joe Morselli is dead finally.
He lived beyond his best blown up date.
Maybe it’s just liberals/mafia settling some things the way they usually do.
Mr. “X” is still Mr. “X”.
Mr. “X” is a “victim”. A victim of what?
Mr. “X” may have died accidentally or deliberately.
Mr. “X” is a male. +
Police said Monday that they believe the sudden, intense fire in the bathroom was fuelled by gasoline in a container that the victim brought into the restaurant shortly before the blaze, which some witnesses thought was preceded by an explosion.
Det. Sgt. Myron Demkiw said police were still working to identify the man killed in the fire, but still don’t know whether it was accidental or deliberate. +
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2006/04/02/1516824-cp.html
Blew himself to Timbits.
Here follows part of a news item that I just read today:
Three Killed in Istanbul Bus Attack
02 April, 2006
By BENJAMIN HARVEY
ISTANBUL, Turkey – A group of men stopped a passenger bus and tossed gasoline bombs at it, sending the vehicle careening into pedestrians and killing three in Turkey�s largest city on Sunday as pro-Kurdish riots continued to spread.
Dr. Wright, they ARE lying. They cannot just jump right up and say there’s no terrorism. Not with all the evidence they have.
They’re like Baghdad Bob: “Nothing to see. Nothing much going on. Don’t worry, be happy.”
It’s going to happen. So keep your eyes open. Be alert.
First rule for a media report–Ontario teachers of English are REQUIRED to teach this: Tell WHO, WHERE, WHY, WHAT, WHEN in the first paragraph and then provide further detail in the rest of the report.
Where’s the story, guys?
Guys? Miller, Blair, et al. You fail. Mark? Not even D-. How about R for Remedial? Or maybe L: what utter Losers.
But wait, it’s we, the working stiffs, who pay their overblown salaries, and all the innocents who suffer because of their PC idiocies, who are the real losers.
People of Canada, wake up!
Terrorism in Canada has already occurred, a number of times. Canadian Sentinel, were you so paranoid back when Litton Systems in Etobicoke had a bomb explosion?
How about during the FLQ “crisis?”
I worked at Litton Systems – and also lived in Northern Ireland. The paranoia is utterly amusing.
Quote: “It sounds to me like a guy who either wanted to do a torch job or commit suicide.”
Note that the police spokesman quoted said “It sounds to me…”
Meaning it’s his own personal opinion, not a formal statement from the police, therefore he’s not actually saying that it isn’t terrorism.
And, Mr. Scott, I wouldn’t mouth off about paranoia if I were you… I recall a little profanity-laden spat you once had herein which made you sound a little paranoid yourself… I recall also that you declared you wouldn’t return here… yet here you are again. I therefore have no lessons to take from you.
And terrorism isn’t amusing. Not at all.
And it’s better to err on the side of security than to err on the side of death. You leftists are free to pursue your gamble of having it every way you want it at the risk of being wrong about the threat environment surrounding us…
Excuse me if I prefer to keep my eyes open rather than to have a latent wish to have some zombie intrude into my home and chop off my head… or to be blown up in a Tim’s or the subway…
It’s the job of our leaders (sic) to report facts to the citizenry without fear or prejudice in a timely fashion. So, at this point, whether the dead person’s name is Jack, Pierre, or Mohammed, it’s clear that the powers that be have failed miserably.
Lookout gets it. Canadian Sentinel gets it. I like to think that I get it.
Ian Scott doesn’t.
Wake up, Mr. Scott. With some vigilance, it could be your own life you save… 🙂
Is Mr. “X” still Mr. “X”?
Is his name white, brown, green, yellow, blue, red…… Just love speculation in the absence of information from the “oddtoriteis”.
More speculation:
Where is Mr. “X”‘s family? Did he have a family? Maybe he was a seal hunter?
Speaking of explosions, Jack’s head exploded:
Gendercide Watch: The Montreal Massacre
“Until Montr�al, most of the discussion was introspective,” Layton recalled in … My head exploded that year. ‘What must it be like for women?’ I thought. …
http://www.gendercide.org/case_montreal.html – 23k –
“People of Canada,wake up.” Now what does that remind me of? Got it, “Deutschland erwache!”
I’d like to know what Chicken Little, sorry, Canadian Sentinel, Lookout and the New Kid on the Block are getting. It sure isn’t facts, but then those are not required for preaching to the converted on this blog.
how to get the ave. canuks atention blow up a tim hortons. Give it is Canada they used a small explosive. No need to waste a good one.
last time i was in tim’s i ask for a large coffee they gave me something that was 8oz so i had to go back and order 2 more.
You got that, Vochanan. As soon as Tim’s was sold south, they went “conservative” and into “cost-cutting improvements,” such as smaller portions.
Was this “car” registered in the name of Mr. “X”?
Stolen? Rented? Is the VIN valid?
Next-of-kin?
Who is/was Mr. “X”? About 48 hours after this bang; Mr. “X” has no name?
Should you care? +
A car found in the area of the Tim Hortons outlet in which a man died in a flash fire on Sunday is being examined by forensic experts.
“A vehicle found at a nearby parking garage has been taken to the Centre for Forensic Sciences for investigation and we are examining video evidence,” Det.-Sgt. Myron Demkiw said yesterday outside the Yonge and Cumberland Sts. coffee shop. +
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2006/04/04/1519347-sun.html
Voch
Try
“Extra” large next time.
That’s a “fact” gadgetfart.
I’ll just let “Agitfact” believe what he/she wishes. I’d, in the meantime, recommend going over to my blog to see what facts/information I’ve offered so far prior to mouthing off like some moonbat.
So, Agitfact, you’d prefer to live in a fantasy world in which Canada is somehow impervious to terrorism and other attacks by evildoers due to a force field of niceness and political correctness? Why not get Svend Robinson as PM and everything will be perfect, eh?
You do what you want. Go play and ignore the real world. Nothing’s stopping you. Enjoy your blissful ignorance with your noggin up your hiney… 🙂
“Canadian Sentinel,” take off one from the count of hits on your blog to-day. That was me checking for the facts you advertised, but I couldn’t find any.
Have you considered a career in pulp fiction?
large at dunkin don’ts is 20 oz x large is 24 oz
but the baked goods are better at tim’s.
if you really need a caffine fix get an x large and make it a turbo.
54 oz at 7/11
Well, Agitfact, you speak pretty pompously for one who him/herself has offered no facts…
You also didn’t point to anything specific to take issue with it. So how do I know you’re not just yanking my chain?
Feel free to bring anything up in my comments section. What do you dispute? Nothing’s stopping you.
The latest non-fiction from the UK: Islamist terrorists plotting to pulp/shred/dice/kaboom & kill the infidels.
Islam: The religion of the sword and the pulpers. +
“No Terrorist-Free Zones in the UK”
The United Kingdom has a BIG problem: Bomb investigator says UK threat still high.
BERLIN (Reuters) – Investigations into last July�s London suicide bombings are proceeding with no let-up but the terrorist threat to Britain has not declined, the country�s top anti-terrorism investigator said on Tuesday.
�Since July, the pace of investigation, the scale of the threat has not diminished in any way whatsoever,� Peter Clarke, the national coordinator of terrorism investigations, told a security conference in Germany.
He added: �There are no terrorist-free zones in the United Kingdom. The footprint of international terrorism is in every part of the country.� +
via LGF
You must all remember that the universe is a dangerous place and everything and everyone in it is out to get you and me, including you and me.
To think the universe isn’t violent and trying to eliminate you is foolish and frankly just stupid.
I quote Agitfact: “I’d like to know what Chicken Little, sorry, Canadian Sentinel, Lookout and the New Kid on the Block are getting. It sure isn’t facts”.
Thanks, Agit-fact (sic), for making my point again: We’re certainly NOT getting facts. Could you perhaps fill us in about the particulars here? Unless you’re clairvoyant, I doubt it.
If this is a straightforward investigation, why the coyness on the part of the police and politicians? That’s my point.
Sintinel:
“And, Mr. Scott, I wouldn’t mouth off about paranoia if I were you… I recall a little profanity-laden spat you once had herein which made you sound a little paranoid yourself”
What does the use of precise, simple language have to do with “paranoia? Your mind projects upon language?
“… I recall also that you declared you wouldn’t return here… yet here you are again.”
Yes. I changed my mind. I find it humorous here at times.
“I therefore have no lessons to take from you.”
Written like someone who is unteachable.
“And terrorism isn’t amusing. Not at all.”
No, but your projections upon this event are amusing.
“And it’s better to err on the side of security than to err on the side of death.”
Give me liberty, or give me death.
“They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security” ~ Benjamin Franklin
“You leftists”
Your insane projection, as well as fallacy of generalization and ad hominem. I am no “leftist.”
“are free to pursue your gamble of having it every way you want it at the risk of being wrong about the threat environment surrounding us…”
You “feel” threatened? I don’t.
“Excuse me if I prefer to keep my eyes open”
Except that you are not keeping them open. You’ve already determined that “they are lying.”
“rather than to have a latent wish to have some zombie intrude into my home and chop off my head… or to be blown up in a Tim’s or the subway…”
Your fantastical projections at work, once again.
New Kid:
“Wake up, Mr. Scott. With some vigilance, it could be your own life you save…”
With some vigilance, I’ve already saved my own life a number of times, as well as other lives besides my own.
Sintenel:
“If this is a straightforward investigation, why the coyness on the part of the police and politicians?”
What “coyness?” You watch too much CSI. Do you have any clue about officially identifying a person after they are found dead? Do you have any clue about the protocol involved?
The police have already said what it is not. It is not “terrorism.” It’s not P.I. Rockford working on the case, you know.
Sorry, Lookout (and Sentinel,) just got back from a dinner party, and it’s too late to write much tonight.
I suspect that there are few facts to be gotten from any reliable source. If all the police have to work with is a badly burned body, it’s going to take time to get an ID, and, should no one file a missing person’s, it may take a long time indeed. Let the police do their job. Unlike bloggers, they carry responsibility and can’t jump to conclusions.
You, in turn, suspect that police and officialdom are holding back. Would a single individual trying to do dirt with a can of gas cause enough alarm and terror in the population to warrant a cover-up? As long as we are only trading in suspicions, let me raise another one: don’t you think that tangible evidence that terrorism has surfaced would be used by police forces and governments as justification for security measures and additional resources?
There is no way to tip the balance of probability either way right now, so let’s wait for it.
Will have to get back to y’all later. Must run… work to do!
BTW, I didn’t write: “If this is a straightforward investigation, why the coyness on the part of the police and politicians?”
Someone else wrote that. So address them.
In the meantime, check my blog.
The “MSM” (Toronto and Ottawa papers)report to-day that the “Horton Bomber” (my phrase) was a suicide who incinerated himself.
His identity is known but has not been released because the man’s immediate family has not yet been notified. The man’s wife and child left him recently and returned to South Asia. He was known to be suffering from depression.
Those seem to be the facts for now.
So, agitfact, where did you get your info on the guy who exploded at Tim Horton’s on Sunday? All I could find at the Globe and Mail was that it wasn’t an accident. They didn’t mention anything about the man’s family or his nationality. How did you find out he’d been depressed and that his wife and child had left him and gone back to South Asia?
Your information seems to be more than the Toronto police and its mayor are telling us…
PS: agitfact: I know you didn’t mention the man’s nationality, but by implication, the wife’s if she went “back to South Asia.”
Sentinel… looking for all this information and “facts” you apparently have on your website – but all I’m seeing there is blackness and a link to a site owned by someone named Kellen Westman and Daniel Yakiwchuk.
Has your site been hacked?? May I jump to that conclusion?
New Kid, the most details are from the print-edition of the Ottawa Citizen, citing police sources. There was no indication of nationality, although there obviously could be a south Asian angle. No doubt more will be coming out soon.
His name will be “Gamil Garbi”-ish and the thought police are trying to translate it to Bob Smith, for the shiny happy people.
Police will NOT release his name, because family asked them not to. http://www.680news.com/news/local/article.jsp?content=20060406_163855_5256
Let me get it straight:
A guy wants to (presumably without anyone else).
So the easiest way to do that is to take a can of gasoline to a Tim Hortons in downtown Toronto (near the subway and other places of interest)?
Right?
Man, I can think of a few less complicated ways of committing .
It’s really bizarre.