Canadians will be shocked by the true cost of the federal government’s ill-fated gun registry, says new Public Security Minister Stockwell Day.
Day told The Canadian Press that figures bureaucrats have shown him during briefings for his new portfolio are much higher than previously thought. He would not divulge what the tab is, but said it’s upsetting.
“Some of these numbers, when we get out all the numbers and when the auditor general releases them all very soon, eyebrows are going to go up,” he said Thursday.
“People are going to be upset and they’re going to have a right to be upset.”
I think this is on-topic as it relates to how the Libs could get away with this kind of criminally negligent (or deliberate… was it money laundering through a registry they had to know was completely worthless?) tax dollar wastage.
“The reason Liberals will never learn is because they think THEY are God’s gift to Canada.”
Yep… which is ironic since I don’t think the Liberals believe there’s a higher power than themselves, hence how, then, can they think anything other than they’re their own “gift” to Canada?
How else could they have the sheer chutzpah to decide, along with the SCOC and MSM, that abortion is good and a human right, as well as, with greased-lightning speed, unilaterally, undemocratically changing the definition of marriage from what it necessarily always was to something utterly meaningless and opening the door to calling pretty much any interpersonal relationship “marriage”, including polygamy?
The left fears referenda as it knows bloody well that if the people get to decide things democratically, then the left won’t get what it wants. They only like democracy if it’s certain they’re going to win. Otherwise, they say “You’d put human rights to a vote?” (note also that they themselves deem, wholly unwritten and without any consensus whatsoever, what are “human rights”).
Yep… the Liberals think THEY are God. That’s why they deem absolutely everything. How else can they say that the Charter says something it absolutely doesn’t at all yet have millions of people believe them, thanks largely to an apparatchik MSM who lets the Liberals get away with telling such brobdingnagian lies?
Or does the Supreme Court think it’s God? They have taken on God’s role, becoming the sole determinor of all that is and of all that is not.
Or does the MSM think it’s God? They have demonstrated their power to either keep the Liberals in power or make them lose, using their own power of public perception manipulation to influence elections. Just remember how quickly the MSM turned on the Liberals under Martin? They wanted a change; were bored with telling us that “Libs good and Tories bad”…
We don’t want the left to be allowed to play God. Remember what happened with Hitler, Stalin, Khomeini, Saddam, Castro, et al?
So stealing the peoples’ money is for the Liberals like taking candy from babies. That’s the reality of the unchecked power of the left. People are only just beginning to see this reality. And the internet must be utilized to the max by bloggers to help more folks see the truth…
An armed society is a polite society
Wait till (if) the AG does an audit on Bilingualism…everything pales in comparison to that white elephant.
Me thinks for every $1000 we see wasted on gun registry and other items that will be dug up, we should send a “thank you note” to those who live in Vancouver/Toronto/Montreal West.
cheers
tom
I like the timing of this news release. It kind of knocks the stuffing out of Graham’s bravado. The Gun Registry fiasco would be a nice little reminder during an election.
What Stock will find is that the cost overruns are caused by privatization and contracting out. As are all the current scandals as I have reported here: Canada’s Billion Dollar P3 Boondoggle
2006-02-16
Canadian Space Agency scandal linked to Lansdowne Technologies Inc.
…a subsidiary of Canada Steamship Lines (CSLI), the shipping empire owned by former Prime Minister Paul Martin and turned over to his three sons in 2003.
According to the Globe & Mail, business dealings between the former prime minister and Ottawa and his shipping empire total $161-million over the last 11 years. That total includes $10.3-million in grants and a $4.9-million government loan…
It is a matter of public record that during the past decade when Martin was Liberal Finance Minister, of $27.7-million in Canadian federal government contracts landed by CSLI–almost half of the dollar amount went to CSLI subsidiary, Lansdowne Technologies Inc.–the company not recorded on Martin�s public disclosure statement.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/cover021606h.htm
And how many contracts have been awarded to FirstMark & Auresco?
Lansdowne Technologies Inc
http://www.lansdowne.com/index.htm
CTV Whistleblower
Indian woman abandoned in Canada without support
She is without any means of support, despite the fact that her husband…signed a legally binding Immigration document, promising to be financially responsible for her for 10 years…
…The woman’s lawyer, Heidi Suter, who is paid by Legal Aid, has been writing letters to the Immigration department for months, trying to get them to take action. She has heard nothing back….
…The Immigration department processes some 60,000 applications every year, from Canadian citizens or permanent residents who want to sponsor a relative or spouse to come to Canada. Government figures obtained by CTV estimate up to 14 per cent of those sponsors abandon their responsiblities and default on the agreement. That’s some 8 thousand new immigrants each year, left without the financial support they are entitled to. Often, these people end up being assisted by Canadian taxpayers…
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060209/whistleblower_brides_060216/20060216/
To the Liberal bureaycratic lurkers and their paid anti-gun lobbyists: we’re about to stick a fork in this registry albatross. It’s histroy sweetheart get used to it Wendy. Wait till you see phase 2.
To all the responsible Canadian firearms owners out ther: before the year us out there will be legislation in place that will ensure that the gross abuse of regulatory regime will NEVER happen again. The feds have proven they can’t be trusted with the regulation of the legal uses of civilian fireams…they are about to lose it.
I have been saying it for a long time now, “This is only the tip of the iceberg”. Why do you think that no top liberal’s want the leadership & if they were in the know of the 2 prior men in charge, think about it. The liberals are going to try the premptive strikes to deflect any information, in fact they have already in the Emerson statement’s. Get the NDP riled up to do the dirty work & now just the other day with the statement out of Bill Graham,(will not support the government & will try to bring them down ASAP) they know that they have to get the msm changing the stories this is the only way to distract the public. All of the trust’s that AG Fraser was prevented from looking into should be opened for audits ASAP. If the liberals are sucessfull in bringing down the goverment in 6mon. say, we may never know the true extent of the waste that has occured in the last 12yrs(thats saying that the liberal & msm spin will tick off the public & turn them against the CPC, 3weeks in & they are trying there best now) Just my thought’s folks, stay warm & have a great weekend.
And how convenient, ( for somebody)-that the Auditor General’s report on the ‘Gun Registry’, comes out AFTER the election! For the very same reason- that the Gomery Report is released-AFTER the election! And David Dingwall gets his ‘severance package’- BEFORE the election, but it isn’t publically announced, until AFTER the election!
Coming up: Some very serious ‘housecleaning’?
Cheri: Came across this Adam Smith quote yesterday which I believe desribes the Librano Crime Family. They honestly think they are virtuous — they really do.
�Virtue is more to be feared than vice, because its excesses are not subject to the regulation of conscience.�
lakota:
The Captains Quarters today makes the point that the huge tie-up of RCMP with the gun registry combined with no increase in resources, prevented them from investigating the Librano Crime Family (even if they were so inclinded).
I’m NO conspiracy theorist, but always make an exception for the LCF.
in cory’s post above re the gun registry…
his last words hit the nail on the head. it was the first step to disarming the population. when it became law it was the first thing that came to my mind. i hope the CPC trashes it and quickly.
Go get’ em Stockwell. Go find the truth.
I hope it’s $5-$10 billion.. really rub it in the Liberal’s faces.
I would have thought all this stuff would have been shreded weeks ago….
Liberals lieing to us…..no there must be some kind of mistake here.
You must be making this up!?
Seriously though, does this surprise anyone? What I’m really wondering is if this will allow the Conservatives to FINALLY change the channel on Emerson’s floor-crossing, or if the MSM will continue to aid the Liberals is dragging this non-issue out for yet another day
Sheesh, you guys upset with the gun registry. Did it not employ a gazzilion people somewhere? Now they are going to be on the street or lined up at the soup kitchen. Have a bleeding heart.
Jack – there are 200 people in New Brunswick I think and they have been guaranteed their jobs. It is like a gun registry call center and data inputting center. .
I have heard they may make use of this for the Senior’s info. line and a few other call centre federal activities.
jack:
Maybe read some economics. You can’t get something for nothing. The government has no money of its own, only monies taken in taxes from individuals and corporations. Any money spent to “create jobs”, logically, must destroy (notice: not in quotes) jobs elsewhere — there is no getting around this economic fact. The thing is the destroyed jobs are dispersed across the economy and are therefore not seen. In the aggregate the government cannot create jobs; the very best they can do is “create” the same number of jobs as they’ve destroyed. Problem is: government is a massive overhead operation and the reality is that perhaps for every 1 job “created”, there’s a good chance that 1.2 jobs (at the very least) are destroyed.
I hope that was sarcasim from Jack.
Gary Britcritz (a MP from Sask) has been shouting out loud about the COST of the gun registry system for YEARS. He had the numbers and he asked questions – the MSM never asked him any questions about his numbers. Why? Because Gary had ‘all his ducks in a row’ and the MSM hate to interview anyone like that. If Canadians had listined to Gary and raised a big stink about this travesty of our right to bear arms and our right NOT to be robbed, we would have a few extra Billion dollars to disburse back to our own pocketbooks.
Corry, I think you are absolutly correct about the motivation. Gary and Stockwell Day have both ‘asked’ the Liberanos about the motive behind this and the liberanos spewed retoric about disarming criminals.
A data base, even an interactive data base can be created by a good programer in two weeks – the Liberanos spent our money somewhere else. My question is: how could any Canadian in his or her right mind vote for or defend the Liberanos and their Dipper allies?
BTW I haven’t seen much on the MSM about Mr. Day’s shocking findings, just vague references. Thank-you for posting it here Kate.
Jack; I doubt anyone will be on the soup line over the loss of the gun registry, unless it’s behind prison bars.
From what I’ve seen and heard, and knowing the Liberals penchant for un-tendered contracts to their buddies (and MP’s disguising themselves); the un-employed will either have MP pensions or other ‘entitlements’ to fall back on. Or they will be well looked after in the penal system (Club Fed).
So could somebody please tell me the last time a drug pusher used a .308 or a 12 gauge to shoot some rival gang member??? Must be a bitch hiding that thing in your back pocket.
Justthinkin:
The only one I know of was an east indian drug dealer in Vancouver in the mid-’90’s. He was involved in an execution murder of a rival drug dealer in a back alley at Fraser and 33rd Ave. A few days later he showed up on the BCTV News stating he had nothing to do with it and challened his rivals to “come get him” if they thought otherwise. My immediat thought while watching that was “Dead Man Walking”.
Sure enough, a day or two later, he’s driving down Kingsway near Fraser and the rivals popped him in the head with a .308 from an AR-10 (big brother to the AR-15/M-16).
Bindy Johal, the rival most likely to have been involved in this shooting got it himself about 6 months later when someone walked up to him on the dance floor of a downtown club and put a .22 in his head.
I am so sure that the Librano$ gun registry would have stopped these guys – NOT!
The sooner we dump this registry the better.
Note to Stockwell: Be sure to destroy ALL records in the registry. Otherwise you will see the Librano$ rebuild it should they ever come to power again in the future.
Thanks Ken for the correction re Dr. D. R. Kamerschen. I’ve updated that entry in my database.
We’re gonna get your guns. Every last one of you will be completely unarmed, what will you do then?
And its because you’re all criminals, every one of you gun-owners are criminals! You can’t be trusted!
The Liberals said so, and I believe it because the Liberals are Gods!
… Please. The gun registry isn’t about you, it’s about knowing where the guns are. Similar to registering an automobile or requiring a passport to travel.
Maybe we should scrap those programs too…
Charles J.,
“The gun registry isn’t about you, it’s about knowing where the guns are. Similar to registering an automobile or requiring a passport to travel. Maybe we should scrap those programs too…”
Sorry, when any government can make a criminal out of a law-abiding citizen (actually millions of law-abiding citizens) for doing nothing wrong – it’s about me.
I can have an unregistered automobile – as far as I know it’s not a criminal offense to own an unregistered automobile.
I don’t need a passport unless I leave the country – as far as I know it’s not a criminal offense not to have one.
Can anyone explain how knowing that a law-abiding citizen has a gun – helps anything? Do the police act any different in a dangerous situation because some database says “they don’t have a gun”?
This may hard to believe – but there are lots of former law-abiding citizens that didn’t register their guns. The guns owned by Liberal created criminals and the natural criminals are not in any registry. This makes “knowing where the guns are” worse than meaningless.
The main problem with this registry is the way politicians, like lets say Paul Martin, can abuse it. I remember him saying that he was going to ban all handguns as one of his hundreds of election promises. So what handguns do you think would have to be surrendered? Which group would still have handguns? Which guns would be next?
The cost – bonus … as you have pointed out, there are registries already set up … this isn’t rocket science … why did this one cost in the billions?
Okay, I got my tongue out of my sarcastic cheek. There will be a few hundred unemployed in New Brunswick when Stock closes it down. The sooner the better.
The whole country would be better off if they were employed in jobs that create real wealth (like goods and services) and not just redistribute it (from the taxpayers to the taxtakers).
Also, I totally agree that Gary Breitkreuz has done a super job on this for years and I’m disappointed that he didn’t make cabinet. He’s a great guy.
Stock’s good too.
Any civil servant who kept copies instead of shredding all the evidence should get started and write a book.
They’ll make an Awfull lot of money.
I’d be first in line, when they go on sale.
…well the Liberals did a bang up job on the gun registry all right.
Those poor 200 New Brunswickers looking for work now…watch the lib-left milk that one to no end, whereas 500,000 Albertans loosing work over NEP is…chump change.
Do you really think Stockwell Day would have an idea what he’s even talking about, give me a break. Look at his record/
I think it is clear why NO ONE will step forward for the Liberano Leadership…They know there are many more skeletons in past governments closet to be uncovered in next few months/years.
Maurice Strong (Paul Martin’s mentor) along with Allen Rock were the initial instigators of C68.
Don’t you think its a coincedence that both men would end up at the U.N. Look for Paul Martin to be name to a high paid job at U.N. after he leaves as MP. No C68 is not about crime control but its main purpose was confiscation. Easy to gather all guns when you know where and who owns them. Unfortunately for the Liberals it didn’t work out because Canadians not being that stupid just didn’t comply (only about 50% of law abiding gun owners and 0% for criminals. Change of situation, Allen Rock is being replaced as UN ambassador and Maurice Strong is trying to dodge the US feds who are after him because of his implication in the Food for Oil scandal. Hope the new findings by Stockwell end up in the AG audit on the registry coming out now in April, then the polulation of this county will finally realize the reasons why the Liberals tried everything to stay in power. GO Stockwell/Gary GO.