(In the comments, Walter P. argues the caption should read “Meet the new editor, same as the old editor.”)
83 Replies to “For Those Who Still Don’t Get It”
Whats the difference, the Liberals running the media or a mullah. Both are social engineers, what are we afraid of. Lets just live in fear and let the muslims write our editorial policy on a national level.
Screw them.
I’m offended.
sad but true.
we have given up so easily.
ex-lib. Like Hell we’ve given up! Maybe the pc’s in TO& Van.(and MSM) have, but these guys are going to catch hell from the bloggers.
Saddle up my Clydesdale, let’s get the crusades started.
I agree with almost everything I read on SDA. On this issue I have the attitude that just because you CAN doesn’t mean you SHOULD.
I CAN hit myself on the thumb with a hammer but I don’t think I SHOULD do it. What’s the point.
Hah…brilliantly observed.
I think we will find that the new editors have much to say about the things we write about.
Enjoy.
mrtisaduffer..
if you have to ask,then you will never get”it”…
To be honest, I am not comfortable with Western Standard’s plan to publish the cartoons, but it is BECAUSE I am uncomfortable (fear of bringing the battle to my back door, as it were) that I support their right to do it. As a subscriber, they have my money already, but if I wasn’t, I’d buy a copy.
Looking at the video of the brave souls in France, can we do differently & live with ourselves?
mrtisaduffer: “…On this issue I have the attitude that just because you CAN doesn’t mean you SHOULD.”
Perhaps you’re right mrt. Perhaps we should start publishing the cartoons found in the Arab presses instead, and show the world how innocent they are. Not that those ‘toons would offend anyone, so we should be safe then, eh? From a human perspective, I found the Arab cartoons FAR more offensive, and it had nothing to do with my faith, or lack of it.
Yes, we just HAVE to go out of our way to offend people’s religious sensibilities, only THEN can we find out their offended.
My only question, when are we going to see the God-Jesus gay sex with expletives cartoons in the Western Standard? After all, it’s their freedom of the press, but then, I’ve never noticed many anti israel cartoons in the Standard either. Gee, could this just be a way to create publicity?
Toooo funny! A fanatic as an editor…hey…isn’t this what we have now? Theocrats, Ideocrats…not much difference? I know a fellow worker who was almost fired over having a picture of his trophy elk hunt. I’m sure there are lots of you out there that have been “cautioned” about putting up a cross or a pin up or a party logo or some thing that may “offend” the fanatic touch holes you may be working with who will cripple your boss with alesuits….it’s all about intolerance of diversity of opinion and of you give in to it you aid it.
Elmasry fumes; spouts about da canadian values; stuff it Elmasry.
Two words Islamist jihadists hate :
Mohammedans. Pork. >>>
Calgary magazine to reprint cartoons
Hate-crime charges could follow decision by Western Standard, Muslim warns
JEFF GRAY
From Monday’s Globe and Mail
The Western Standard, a political magazine based in Calgary, will today reprint eight of the 12 Danish cartoons depicting the Prophet Mohammed that have caused riots and controversy around the world, and one Canadian Muslim leader warns that hate-crime charges may follow.
Western Standard publisher Ezra Levant, a former Reform and Canadian Alliance activist, calls the cartoons “innocuous” and accused Canada’s “mainstream media,” including The Globe and Mail, of failing to stand up for free speech for refusing to print the images.
“I was prepared to see the most outrageous, depraved, blasphemous cartoons,” Mr. Levant said in an interview yesterday. “I was surprised by how tame they were.”
But the leader of the Canadian Islamic Congress, Mohamed Elmasry, warned yesterday that his organization will seek to have charges laid against the magazine under Canada’s laws against distributing hate literature.
“It’s unfortunate,” said Mr. Elmasry, who had urged Mr. Levant not to republish the images. “I think he really goes against the will and the values of Canadians by this provocative action.”
Mr. Levant said the magazine, which hits newsstands today, is publishing the “most illustrative” of the cartoons that have angered Muslims worldwide and that first appeared in the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten last year.
The cartoons will not be on the cover, Mr. Levant said, but will appear inside, spread across two pages with news and analysis of the controversy. While the magazine is reprinting the cartoon that depicts the Prophet Mohammed with a turban shaped like a bomb, Mr. Levant says not all the images have a “political edge.”
Others merely depict Mohammed and wouldn’t be out of place in a “children’s illustrated Bible,” he said.
Newspapers that have chosen not to print the images are hypocritical, Mr. Levant charged, for backing away from printing images offensive to Muslims after printing images that offend other religions, citing controversial works of art and cartoons that have upset Christian and Jewish groups in the past.
The Globe chose not to run the cartoons because senior editors deemed them “gratuitous and unnecessarily provocative,” editor-in-chief Edward Greenspon wrote. Most other major newspapers in North America, including The New York Times, also decided not to publish the images.
Mr. Levant also singled out the Canadian Civil Liberties Association and PEN Canada for what he called a lack of support for free speech over the issue. PEN, he said, is quick to fight “bureaucrats and customs officials” on censorship cases, but when speaking out could mean “a beheading or a bullet, where are they? >>> G&M
With an editor like that you certainly don’t want to do anything to make him blow up at you.
Strange choice for a cartoonist (Luckovich) who said on CNN (Reliable Sources Show) on Sunday that he agreed with editors not publishing the “controversial” cartoons. (Maybe his editor was standing behind him when he said it)
Caption should read:
Meet the new editor, same as the old editor.
The whole thing is just so fucking stupid. Both sides.
Come on Candace, gird thy loins and prepare to do battle. You are exemplifying the problem! Fear of reprisal! As someone said, I forget who, “I would rather die in the first ditch than the last.” They can’t kill us all! Everyone should be publishing the cartoons on their Blog, I did. As a further note they are the tamest “cartoons” you can imagine. Let’s not forget also that the definition of a moderate Muslim is one who doesn’t rock the boat and he will only speak up after we make it safe for him to do so. It is our duty to stand up for him because he cannot do it himself.
These Muslim fanatics are nothing more than puffed-up, insecure schoolyard bullies who need to be treated as such. The more you give in to them, the more power you give them. Good for Ezra Levant. It is unfortunate we do not have more editors with courage and balls to stand up for what is right.
Oh, for the days of Reagan and Thatcher.
If the cartoon’s were grossly offensive and gave the Muslim people true reason for outrage I would possibly have some empathy. But none of this is true. The cartoons have some political undertones which I think Ahmadinejad used this as ammo to further the divide between the Muslim world and the west. As per the comments “because we can doesnt mean we should” By becoming scare of retaliation and not printing them you now prove that terrorism works in the western world. WE ARE NOT AFRAID OF THESE PEOPLE, WE NEED TO STAND UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT. Yes it has become a pissing contest but my one rule in life is “dont start shit you cant finish” and they have. Support Denmark, Support our troops in Afgan. and our allies, we will have to all stand together in unity if we are to survive the next ten years.
“Everyone should be publishing the cartoons on their Blog, I did.”
LOL, you’re a warrior.
“I was prepared to see the most outrageous, depraved, blasphemous cartoons,” Mr. Levant said in an interview yesterday. “I was surprised by how tame they were.”
Amen to that.
How ludicrous is it that the MSM provides commentary on the cartoons, but refuses to provide the context. Why are we not given the right to decide how offensive or not the cartoons are? Does the press not have an obligation to present the facts for us to decide in a free society?
Mohammed with the bomb turbin is such an apt metaphor. Thirty years of Islamic terrorism, 9/11, dead children in Beslan, the Moscow theatre, Madrid, London, the desecrated Bhuddist statues, the insane jihad rantings of mullahs, etc is pretty much on target in that cartoon.
The not so shocking outcome of this cartoon episode is that the US, Canadian and British MSM have again proven themselves to be agents of the leftist, pc, multi-culti, nanny state agenda.
The sniveling useless MSM can’t die fast enough.
Challenge to Globe & Mail, Toronto Star, CBC/CTV,/Global & the rest of the MSM:
Print/broadcast this:
Oriana Fallaci “beheaded”:
Fallaci Beheaded [Art Exhibit In Milan Italy. Liberals And Jihadists Working Together]
FrontPage Magazine ^ | Feb. 13, 2006 | Robert Spencer
Posted on 02/13/2006 5:54:24 AM PST by conservativecorner
A disgraceful art exhibit in Milan has illustrated once again the deep affinity between the Left and the forces of the global jihad. In these days of Muslims the world over calling for the deaths of those who have �insulted Islam,� anyone who wants to see Oriana Fallaci beheaded need look no further than the Galleria Luciano Inga-Pin in Milan, which is exhibiting Giuseppe Veneziano�s �American Beauty� from January 19 through March 18. This is a series of paintings designed to highlight the �weakness and perversity of the �American way of life.�� It accordingly features straightforward, if somewhat lurid, portraits of Michael Jackson and Ronald McDonald, along with the distinctly non-American Harry Potter. Then comes a bizarre depiction of a nude man having sexual intercourse with the Pink Panther, five artistic renditions of the Abu Ghraib prison photos (each with �American Beauty� scrawled across the top), and � Oriana Fallaci�s decapitated head.
Although I find the picture of Fallaci decapitated deeply offensive, I have no plans to attack the Italian embassy, boycott Italian wine, phone in a bomb threat to the Galleria Luciano Inga-Pin, kill innocent people who had nothing to with the painting, or threaten to kill those who are actually responsible for it. Veneziano�s painting is the sort of obnoxiousness that has become commonplace on the Left, and is one of the prices of freedom of speech.
Veneziano�s painting is doubly offensive, however, in light of the fact that Fallaci herself has been driven out of Italy by frivolous charges that she has �defamed Islam.� Giuseppe Veneziano is not on trial for depicting Fallaci decapitated, but Fallaci faces trial for making a series of heated but largely true statements about Islam and Muslims. Veneziano�s painting is triply offensive in that it depicts exactly what the Muslim exponents of cartoon rage around the world would like to see done to Fallaci � and thus manifests the ever-closer empathy between the Western Left and Islamic jihad. �Behead those who insult Islam,� read a sign at a recent demonstration in London protesting the Danish cartoons of the Islamic prophet Muhammad. If Fallaci has insulted Islam with her monumental post-9/11 cries of freedom and resistance, The Rage and the Pride and The Force of Reason, Giuseppe Veneziano is happy to oblige the mujahedin, at least on canvas.
In 2006 in Milan the prospect of Fallaci decapitata evokes not so much the iconic Leftist images of the Bastille, Robespierre, and the Terror, but Daniel Pearl, Nick Berg, and the Jihad � particularly in light of the subject matter that has earned the great lady so many enemies in Italy and around the world. This should come as no surprise. Both the Left and the mujahedin envision a totalitarian state that cleanses the world of evil by force, establishing a just society at the price of an unspecified number of dead. Both are advocates of a supremacist ideology that is immune to self-criticism and unable to tolerate criticism from others. And now as the European Union contemplates new laws that will, in the words of Franco Frattini, who bears the Orwellian designation of EU Commissioner for Justice, Freedom, and Security, �give the Muslim world the message: We are aware of the consequences of exercising the right of free expression,� the marriage of the European Left and Islamic jihad can proceed all the more speedily. Frattini has since denied that the EU has any such plans, but there can be no denying that voices all over the West have called for the media to exercise �responsible self-regulation� so as to avoid trampling upon Muslim sensibilities. But Muslim sensibilities only: those who depict Fallaci beheaded, or Jesus Christ with the face of Osama bin Laden, will continue to be subject to the same protections enunciated by Josh Wainwright, the producer of the art show that featured the Christ/Osama painting: �I don�t think it�s anyone�s job or vocation to limit the expression of artists.� Right. Except cartoon artists, of course. Or at least those who have the temerity to suggest that there might be some connection between violent actions done by Islamic jihadists and the Prophet who said that �Paradise is under the shades of swords.� >>> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1577497/posts
“The whole thing is just so fucking stupid. Both sides”
And thus the typical Canadian turns a blind eye again as Canada will be nibbled a wee bit smaller.
Annoyed that someone could be outraged at such a mild provocation as the cartoons appear the spinning Canadian brain reels because the MSM told us that the cartoons “portray Allah (kiss my ass) as a terrorist” and validified the gussied up Islamorage.
The drawings are so terrible that the MSM superiors can’t even show them to you or you will instantly become Islamophobicly corrupted we are told.
Upon seeing the drawings for himself the connection between the harmless evidence and the conditioning by the bleating cynical MSM interpretation are shockingly vast.
“How can anyone be offfended to the apparent levels that the Islamists seem to be?” the typical Candian thinks.
Tossing this conflicting duality around in a stew of Multi-culti-socialist half truths and not gaining any further connection the typical Canuck goes “Default Candian”, and throws his hands in the air and says “they’re all crooked” or “both sides are equally wrong” and therefore saves his fragile ego from admitting that he is a blind brainwashed lazy galoot that could’nt reason his way out of a soggy cardboard 2four, let alone come down with a decision based on good and evil, or right and wrong.
The Nannystate has destroyed the confidence in the typical Canadian to even choose a side in what could be the battle for civilization.
“If Eric Margolies says “these drawings are unacceptably offensive” and I don’t see it then it must be everybody elses fault,… everybody equally however because the blame pie is always divided in half… “because that’s fair”.
Both sides are wrong his ego is intact and he didn’t even break a sweat now it’s time to buy a 6/49 ticket, wonder over to Tim Hortons to spend some of his gubmint cheque and dis Waynes wife.
Ezra should publish stills taken from a dozen or so videos that the MSM surrenderers have locked away in censor of innocent infidels having their heads sawed off as they plead for mercy, along with those fucking useless cartoons.
People who think the cartoons shouldn’t be published just because they offend Muslims are missing the point. Just about anything can offend a significant fraction of this group … the sight of a Jew, a cross or an asterisk(*) on a printed page (I am not kidding). Thirty years ago when I was working on a project with IBM the company was forced to manufacture custom print chains for mainframe printers being exported to the Middle East. The reason? … the standard printed asterisk had the same number of points as the Jewish “star of David” and the customers said this was a grave insult to Islam. IBM employees would be risking their lives if the change wasn’t made. Anyone who thinks you can avoid offending these fanatics by not publishing a few innocuous cartoons is engaging in wishful thinking. Your very existence offends them because you are not a Muslim.
Recently a University of Toronto academic has been recommending we cease making movies wherein women are depicted having professional careers or otherwise acting as peers of men because this is “offensive to Muslims”. Just because we CAN show women as equals to men, SHOULD we? Just how far are we willing to roll over in attempting to placate the beast of Islamo-fascism?
k.
Damnit, you’re right Rich, it’s US against THEM. Saddle up my Clydesdale, let’s get the crusades started. Are you with me cowboy?
Richfisher
Dont really agree with your point of view on the issues but I have to say you did make my day with this line. “now it’s time to buy a 6/49 ticket, wonder over to Tim Hortons to spend some of his gubmint cheque and dis Waynes wife.” LMAO
“Just because we CAN show women as equals to men, SHOULD we? Just how far are we willing to roll over in attempting to placate the beast of Islamo-fascism?”
Ah, the slippery slope argument. Well done.
I’ll believe this is about free speech when I see cartoons making fun of same sex marriage.
I heard a rumour on the Internets that a Zhid in Canada published those cartoons?
I demand that every paper prints cartoons making fun of black people. If they choose not to they’re just cowards, and they’re letting THEM take away our free speech.
Seriously do you not see how absurd this whole thing is?
RE “I’ll believe this is about free speech when I see cartoons making fun of same sex marriage.”
If you have Svend or any of his gang burning down buildings or threatening some straight bashing etc. because of some cartoons then you will likely see them as a news story in the Western Standard. If they were to be published as a cartoon with the purpose and intent of making fun of Gay Marriage then and only then I guess will you be able to wrap your mind around anything to do with free speech.
Look at the issues and events that have taken us here “ol hoss” and come back and repost with something we can discuss indepth once you have gotten your head around the entire issue.
Hey
Moral Hubris Vallcillation
Seen the trailers to your cowboy movie …no thanks.
Take no personal offense, none was intended I don’t even know you but based upon your comments I expected no judgement and reprisal.
Lets just say “The whole thing is just so fucking stupid. Both sides”… OK?
Vacillation …sorry :0)
Hey girls and boys. Cartoons fartoons! Take care of the underlying problem and anyone can print any cartoon they wish without fear.
The focus on the cure is a focus on not feeding the the frenzy raised by the Mullahs and Emirs with the help of the Al-Jezeera network.
A focus on bringing in more troops and mopping up properly in Afghanistan and Iraq is the unfinshed job at hand.
This is the worst possible time for Bush and Blair to go limp in the wrist.
A job was started and it has to be completed properly. Iran, Syria, Libiya and others fouled peace and democracy in Lebanon for over 32 years… This is just the same programme being pushed in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Oil rich dictator Emirs fear nothing except for peace, democracy and enough time for the population to think about their enslavement. TG
If you have Svend or any of his gang burning down buildings or threatening some straight bashing etc…. Look at the issues and events that have taken us here…
Yeah, yeah, tell that to the victims of tainted blood.
I guess you’re saying free speech should only be free if someone burns down buildings.
With an editor like that you certainly don’t want to do anything to make him blow up at you.
LOL
When they take [how many?] hostages and behead them live for TV as they beg for their life from the religion of peace, or go to Beslan and blow up a school full of Christian school children to show them the blessings of Allah, Or riot next time someone has a swimsuit contest, use a machete on some one just for being Christian and tie the bodies up for all to see the peace and blessings of Islam, or blow up a bar that the infidels attend, or set fire to some government buildings or set thousands of cars on fire and blame french youths, or take a bunch of people foolish enough to go to the theater and kill them, failing that fly airplanes into some skyscrapers of the great Satan. Or one of the lesser Satan’s. Plus Rushdie and Van Gough were killed. The list never ends and the worst effects are often not that which is deemed newsworthy.
They have a record of atrocities that make Guantanamo look like a picnic and when do all the so called Muslim moderates speak out? When Allah is insulted?
They should look at how many rapes they cause in Denmark
To be or not to be that is the wests question.
“I demand that every paper prints cartoons making fun of black people. If they choose not to they’re just cowards, and they’re letting THEM take away our free speech.”
“Seriously do you not see how absurd this whole thing is?”
Deep, deep thinking there, MHV. If the black community behaved in the same fashion, you might have an argument. It’s not about who Muslims are, but rather how (some)Muslims behave. Unfortunetly, the ‘innocent’ Muslims because of their complicity of silence may become tarred with the same brush.
Islamofacism is a cancer within the body of Islam and either they must exorcise the cancer or the greater world will. Cancer cannot be allowed to spread.
Neville Chamberlain felt that the ‘body politic’ would heal itself of German/Italian fascism through dialogue, prior to 1939. Sadly he was wrong, and millions paid the price.
When you enemies say they are determined to either kill or subjugate you, you should really pay attention.
“Seen the trailers to your cowboy movie …no thanks.”
LOL, good one rich.
“Take no personal offense, none was intended I don’t even know you but based upon your comments I expected no judgement and reprisal.
Lets just say “The whole thing is just so fucking stupid. Both sides”… OK?”
I think you may be a little confused, but it’s hard to tell exactly what you’re trying to say here.
I’ve seen cartoons mocking gay marriage. It’s a controversial issue. So what. Are we going to allow the media and politicians to designate what’s sacred and above reproach?
Should I censor my reply “sorry, bud, I like whaleburgers” to some annoying zealot from Greenpeace seeking a donation? (I like whales. I don’t like zealots.) Can I mock Wiccams and their objections to Halloween? (You bet.)
Let’s not forget the pervasive MSM depiction of religious people offended by abortion as uptight right wing nazis. Those all-powerful evil Christian fundamentalists that don’t even have the clout to clean up children’s tv programs, restore a nativity creche to public buildings or herd the masses back into church are so feared and loathed by the MSM.
Ask yourself why the leftist MSM is bending over backwards to not offend Islam when there isn’t a day somewhere they haven’t offended everyone else? They and the elitist intellectuals have degraded the Christian religion so perversely in the US, Canada and Europe over the decades that their misplaced sensitivity to Islam is galling in its hypocrisy.
“Islamofacism is a cancer within the body of Islam and either they must exorcise the cancer or the greater world will. Cancer cannot be allowed to spread.”
Fundamentalism is a cancer within any religious body, I agree. But your entire post is geting off topic. My original point is that an editor looking at a cartoon and deciding not to publish it because it is offensive is exercising his or her free speech. I highly doubt anyone in Canada would choose not to publish the cartoons out of fear. But maybe some people did, I don’t know. I’m just saying that this toughguy attitude where anyone who doesn’t publish the cartoons is a coward, and that by publishing the cartoons “we’ll show them” is just stupid.
But back to your post, you say cancer cannot be allowed to spread. What then, do you propse we do? Wipe out the entire body because of cancer in the arm?
“Ask yourself why the leftist MSM is bending over backwards to not offend Islam when there isn’t a day somewhere they haven’t offended everyone else?”
It’s because they’re with THEM Penny. It’s a giant conspiracy to allow Islam to rule the world. In exchange the MSM will be granted an island where they’ll be allowed to exist, while the rest of us will be wiped out. They need to be stopped. Grab your six shooter and saddle up cowboy.
Recently a University of Toronto academic has been recommending we cease making movies wherein women are depicted having professional careers or otherwise acting as peers of men because this is “offensive to Muslims”.
Not that I find it unbelievable, but geez, is this serious? Got a link?
I highly doubt it’s true myself, but who knows? I also would like to see a link.
since when does one person (a editor of the media) determine for me and others what constitutes free speech ? dumb question on my part because it simply comes down to the bottom line $$$. no principals or values here just $$$.
Cowgirl.
So what’s your plan, big guy? Employ sarcasm until they surrender? I highly doubt anyone in Canada would choose not to publish the cartoons out of fear.
Besides a real possibilty of mayham from Muslim protestors, their offices being torched, running counter to the multi-culti pc fascists…. what would motivate an editor in a free society from publishing those insipid cartoons? Good taste? Please. Wrong answer, if you have been viewing the MSM over the decades with the rest of us. Did you cheat and view the cartoons on the internet or did you abide by the MSM rules? Come on, big guy, give us an answer. Fundamentalism is a cancer within any religious body
Hum. Wouldn’t it depend on the fundamentals of a particular religion. So if I’m, let’s say, a Bhuddist fundamentalist could you point out the pathology there? The fundamental cancer? We are waiting.
Penny, the debate we need to be having in the West is where is the line in the sand?
The militant fundamentalist muslims have what as their agenda? Is it limited to just eradicating Israel? Just a portion of Israel? World domination?
Does abandoning support for Israel end conflict between Islam and the West?
I, for one, believe that there is within Islam a faction that has the elimination of the West as its goal. That faction is well organized, enabled in its communications by the very product of the West, it has funds, it has a framework of logic that convinces young people to commit suicide, and probably has a well-ensconsed fifth column in place already. I do not believe it will be deterred in its mission any form of appeasement by the West. Like scaling a rockface, each appeasement is simply a better hand or foothold.
You may believe otherwise. But that is what I believe.
It is a pity that many devout and pious men and women within Islam have had their religion hijacked. I worked side by side with a muslim gentleman for over a decade in the US, and he was and remains one of my best friends. He would know that publishing these cartoons is not an insult to him – he would understand (because we could have a rational discussion about it) that publishing these cartoons is a line being drawn in the sand. It is a distinct message to that militant faction of Islam that would end our lives that we will fight back.
I will fight back. I have as much right to live on this planet in my own way as they do.
Oh the great hand-wringing over the insults to Islam. Let me be very clear: to those within Islam who let Allah, or God, or whatever, deal with the issues that are His to deal with, and conduct their lives in peace, and good will, I say we have no ill will in our hearts.
To the militant Islamic faction that would slit the throats of my children while they sleep, I say, you think these cartoons are harsh? We know we must defeat you, and we will, or die trying.
You may believe otherwise.
Step back. I’m in complete agreement and have never said a word otherwise in any comment I’ve written.
You’ve misconstrued my reply to the smarmy apologist MHV. I think you need to re-read the posts above.
My apologies Penny.
MHV, you shit disturber, the proof of the pudding about the fear factor is the disingenuous reasons of so many editors across the country. I just took to task the editor of The Telegram, St. John�s only dead tree MSM for his specious argument. Check it out here: (not my argument, the article) http://www.thetelegram.com/columnists.aspx?pname=Columns&PageType=Columnists&ColumnType=Column&ColumnistId=106
I am sure that most Publishers in Canada and elsewhere for that matter don’t have the guts to admit they are afraid. We have become a land of Lotus Eaters, we have become fat and complacent, we all of a sudden have been brought up short and the picture is not very scenic. Does the word “weak” ring a bell? So all these great defenders of free speech who over the last few generations have vociferously claimed free speech while vilifying those who they knew would only voice a weak protest. The Christian milieu, the Jewish folks et al. It must feel so good to be a left wingnut and put those wacko Christians in their place, “How dare they complain!” Then we have the Muslim hordes who almost took over Europe, (everyone is not a history buff) are pissed, they are a force to be reckoned with and have proved it and close to home too. The Western Standard has been reported to the police for posting the cartoons. Any of you out there who don’t believe there is intimidation here needs to see me about a seaside estate with tropical palms and pink powder sand on Bell Island, Conception Bay, Newfoundland.
The line has to be drawn in that pink sand and the MSM has shown nothing but cowardice. No wonder the circulation of the major papers continues to plummet, with insta info today most aware individuals are way ahead of the of these turds who rely on several hundred years of Fleet Street tradition unimpeded by progress.
Whats the difference, the Liberals running the media or a mullah. Both are social engineers, what are we afraid of. Lets just live in fear and let the muslims write our editorial policy on a national level.
Screw them.
I’m offended.
sad but true.
we have given up so easily.
ex-lib. Like Hell we’ve given up! Maybe the pc’s in TO& Van.(and MSM) have, but these guys are going to catch hell from the bloggers.
Saddle up my Clydesdale, let’s get the crusades started.
I agree with almost everything I read on SDA. On this issue I have the attitude that just because you CAN doesn’t mean you SHOULD.
I CAN hit myself on the thumb with a hammer but I don’t think I SHOULD do it. What’s the point.
Hah…brilliantly observed.
I think we will find that the new editors have much to say about the things we write about.
Enjoy.
mrtisaduffer..
if you have to ask,then you will never get”it”…
To be honest, I am not comfortable with Western Standard’s plan to publish the cartoons, but it is BECAUSE I am uncomfortable (fear of bringing the battle to my back door, as it were) that I support their right to do it. As a subscriber, they have my money already, but if I wasn’t, I’d buy a copy.
Looking at the video of the brave souls in France, can we do differently & live with ourselves?
mrtisaduffer: “…On this issue I have the attitude that just because you CAN doesn’t mean you SHOULD.”
Perhaps you’re right mrt. Perhaps we should start publishing the cartoons found in the Arab presses instead, and show the world how innocent they are. Not that those ‘toons would offend anyone, so we should be safe then, eh? From a human perspective, I found the Arab cartoons FAR more offensive, and it had nothing to do with my faith, or lack of it.
Yes, we just HAVE to go out of our way to offend people’s religious sensibilities, only THEN can we find out their offended.
My only question, when are we going to see the God-Jesus gay sex with expletives cartoons in the Western Standard? After all, it’s their freedom of the press, but then, I’ve never noticed many anti israel cartoons in the Standard either. Gee, could this just be a way to create publicity?
Message re Western Standard publishing cartoons: left liberals have drunk the Kool-Aid. >>
http://www.voy.com/178771/133127.html
Toooo funny! A fanatic as an editor…hey…isn’t this what we have now? Theocrats, Ideocrats…not much difference? I know a fellow worker who was almost fired over having a picture of his trophy elk hunt. I’m sure there are lots of you out there that have been “cautioned” about putting up a cross or a pin up or a party logo or some thing that may “offend” the fanatic touch holes you may be working with who will cripple your boss with alesuits….it’s all about intolerance of diversity of opinion and of you give in to it you aid it.
Elmasry fumes; spouts about da canadian values; stuff it Elmasry.
Two words Islamist jihadists hate :
Mohammedans. Pork. >>>
Calgary magazine to reprint cartoons
Hate-crime charges could follow decision by Western Standard, Muslim warns
JEFF GRAY
From Monday’s Globe and Mail
The Western Standard, a political magazine based in Calgary, will today reprint eight of the 12 Danish cartoons depicting the Prophet Mohammed that have caused riots and controversy around the world, and one Canadian Muslim leader warns that hate-crime charges may follow.
Western Standard publisher Ezra Levant, a former Reform and Canadian Alliance activist, calls the cartoons “innocuous” and accused Canada’s “mainstream media,” including The Globe and Mail, of failing to stand up for free speech for refusing to print the images.
“I was prepared to see the most outrageous, depraved, blasphemous cartoons,” Mr. Levant said in an interview yesterday. “I was surprised by how tame they were.”
But the leader of the Canadian Islamic Congress, Mohamed Elmasry, warned yesterday that his organization will seek to have charges laid against the magazine under Canada’s laws against distributing hate literature.
“It’s unfortunate,” said Mr. Elmasry, who had urged Mr. Levant not to republish the images. “I think he really goes against the will and the values of Canadians by this provocative action.”
Mr. Levant said the magazine, which hits newsstands today, is publishing the “most illustrative” of the cartoons that have angered Muslims worldwide and that first appeared in the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten last year.
The cartoons will not be on the cover, Mr. Levant said, but will appear inside, spread across two pages with news and analysis of the controversy. While the magazine is reprinting the cartoon that depicts the Prophet Mohammed with a turban shaped like a bomb, Mr. Levant says not all the images have a “political edge.”
Others merely depict Mohammed and wouldn’t be out of place in a “children’s illustrated Bible,” he said.
Newspapers that have chosen not to print the images are hypocritical, Mr. Levant charged, for backing away from printing images offensive to Muslims after printing images that offend other religions, citing controversial works of art and cartoons that have upset Christian and Jewish groups in the past.
The Globe chose not to run the cartoons because senior editors deemed them “gratuitous and unnecessarily provocative,” editor-in-chief Edward Greenspon wrote. Most other major newspapers in North America, including The New York Times, also decided not to publish the images.
Mr. Levant also singled out the Canadian Civil Liberties Association and PEN Canada for what he called a lack of support for free speech over the issue. PEN, he said, is quick to fight “bureaucrats and customs officials” on censorship cases, but when speaking out could mean “a beheading or a bullet, where are they? >>> G&M
With an editor like that you certainly don’t want to do anything to make him blow up at you.
Strange choice for a cartoonist (Luckovich) who said on CNN (Reliable Sources Show) on Sunday that he agreed with editors not publishing the “controversial” cartoons. (Maybe his editor was standing behind him when he said it)
Caption should read:
Meet the new editor, same as the old editor.
The whole thing is just so fucking stupid. Both sides.
Come on Candace, gird thy loins and prepare to do battle. You are exemplifying the problem! Fear of reprisal! As someone said, I forget who, “I would rather die in the first ditch than the last.” They can’t kill us all! Everyone should be publishing the cartoons on their Blog, I did. As a further note they are the tamest “cartoons” you can imagine. Let’s not forget also that the definition of a moderate Muslim is one who doesn’t rock the boat and he will only speak up after we make it safe for him to do so. It is our duty to stand up for him because he cannot do it himself.
These Muslim fanatics are nothing more than puffed-up, insecure schoolyard bullies who need to be treated as such. The more you give in to them, the more power you give them. Good for Ezra Levant. It is unfortunate we do not have more editors with courage and balls to stand up for what is right.
Oh, for the days of Reagan and Thatcher.
If the cartoon’s were grossly offensive and gave the Muslim people true reason for outrage I would possibly have some empathy. But none of this is true. The cartoons have some political undertones which I think Ahmadinejad used this as ammo to further the divide between the Muslim world and the west. As per the comments “because we can doesnt mean we should” By becoming scare of retaliation and not printing them you now prove that terrorism works in the western world. WE ARE NOT AFRAID OF THESE PEOPLE, WE NEED TO STAND UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT. Yes it has become a pissing contest but my one rule in life is “dont start shit you cant finish” and they have. Support Denmark, Support our troops in Afgan. and our allies, we will have to all stand together in unity if we are to survive the next ten years.
“Everyone should be publishing the cartoons on their Blog, I did.”
LOL, you’re a warrior.
“I was prepared to see the most outrageous, depraved, blasphemous cartoons,” Mr. Levant said in an interview yesterday. “I was surprised by how tame they were.”
Amen to that.
How ludicrous is it that the MSM provides commentary on the cartoons, but refuses to provide the context. Why are we not given the right to decide how offensive or not the cartoons are? Does the press not have an obligation to present the facts for us to decide in a free society?
Mohammed with the bomb turbin is such an apt metaphor. Thirty years of Islamic terrorism, 9/11, dead children in Beslan, the Moscow theatre, Madrid, London, the desecrated Bhuddist statues, the insane jihad rantings of mullahs, etc is pretty much on target in that cartoon.
The not so shocking outcome of this cartoon episode is that the US, Canadian and British MSM have again proven themselves to be agents of the leftist, pc, multi-culti, nanny state agenda.
The sniveling useless MSM can’t die fast enough.
Challenge to Globe & Mail, Toronto Star, CBC/CTV,/Global & the rest of the MSM:
Print/broadcast this:
Oriana Fallaci “beheaded”:
Fallaci Beheaded [Art Exhibit In Milan Italy. Liberals And Jihadists Working Together]
FrontPage Magazine ^ | Feb. 13, 2006 | Robert Spencer
Posted on 02/13/2006 5:54:24 AM PST by conservativecorner
A disgraceful art exhibit in Milan has illustrated once again the deep affinity between the Left and the forces of the global jihad. In these days of Muslims the world over calling for the deaths of those who have �insulted Islam,� anyone who wants to see Oriana Fallaci beheaded need look no further than the Galleria Luciano Inga-Pin in Milan, which is exhibiting Giuseppe Veneziano�s �American Beauty� from January 19 through March 18. This is a series of paintings designed to highlight the �weakness and perversity of the �American way of life.�� It accordingly features straightforward, if somewhat lurid, portraits of Michael Jackson and Ronald McDonald, along with the distinctly non-American Harry Potter. Then comes a bizarre depiction of a nude man having sexual intercourse with the Pink Panther, five artistic renditions of the Abu Ghraib prison photos (each with �American Beauty� scrawled across the top), and � Oriana Fallaci�s decapitated head.
Although I find the picture of Fallaci decapitated deeply offensive, I have no plans to attack the Italian embassy, boycott Italian wine, phone in a bomb threat to the Galleria Luciano Inga-Pin, kill innocent people who had nothing to with the painting, or threaten to kill those who are actually responsible for it. Veneziano�s painting is the sort of obnoxiousness that has become commonplace on the Left, and is one of the prices of freedom of speech.
Veneziano�s painting is doubly offensive, however, in light of the fact that Fallaci herself has been driven out of Italy by frivolous charges that she has �defamed Islam.� Giuseppe Veneziano is not on trial for depicting Fallaci decapitated, but Fallaci faces trial for making a series of heated but largely true statements about Islam and Muslims. Veneziano�s painting is triply offensive in that it depicts exactly what the Muslim exponents of cartoon rage around the world would like to see done to Fallaci � and thus manifests the ever-closer empathy between the Western Left and Islamic jihad. �Behead those who insult Islam,� read a sign at a recent demonstration in London protesting the Danish cartoons of the Islamic prophet Muhammad. If Fallaci has insulted Islam with her monumental post-9/11 cries of freedom and resistance, The Rage and the Pride and The Force of Reason, Giuseppe Veneziano is happy to oblige the mujahedin, at least on canvas.
In 2006 in Milan the prospect of Fallaci decapitata evokes not so much the iconic Leftist images of the Bastille, Robespierre, and the Terror, but Daniel Pearl, Nick Berg, and the Jihad � particularly in light of the subject matter that has earned the great lady so many enemies in Italy and around the world. This should come as no surprise. Both the Left and the mujahedin envision a totalitarian state that cleanses the world of evil by force, establishing a just society at the price of an unspecified number of dead. Both are advocates of a supremacist ideology that is immune to self-criticism and unable to tolerate criticism from others. And now as the European Union contemplates new laws that will, in the words of Franco Frattini, who bears the Orwellian designation of EU Commissioner for Justice, Freedom, and Security, �give the Muslim world the message: We are aware of the consequences of exercising the right of free expression,� the marriage of the European Left and Islamic jihad can proceed all the more speedily. Frattini has since denied that the EU has any such plans, but there can be no denying that voices all over the West have called for the media to exercise �responsible self-regulation� so as to avoid trampling upon Muslim sensibilities. But Muslim sensibilities only: those who depict Fallaci beheaded, or Jesus Christ with the face of Osama bin Laden, will continue to be subject to the same protections enunciated by Josh Wainwright, the producer of the art show that featured the Christ/Osama painting: �I don�t think it�s anyone�s job or vocation to limit the expression of artists.� Right. Except cartoon artists, of course. Or at least those who have the temerity to suggest that there might be some connection between violent actions done by Islamic jihadists and the Prophet who said that �Paradise is under the shades of swords.� >>>
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1577497/posts
“The whole thing is just so fucking stupid. Both sides”
And thus the typical Canadian turns a blind eye again as Canada will be nibbled a wee bit smaller.
Annoyed that someone could be outraged at such a mild provocation as the cartoons appear the spinning Canadian brain reels because the MSM told us that the cartoons “portray Allah (kiss my ass) as a terrorist” and validified the gussied up Islamorage.
The drawings are so terrible that the MSM superiors can’t even show them to you or you will instantly become Islamophobicly corrupted we are told.
Upon seeing the drawings for himself the connection between the harmless evidence and the conditioning by the bleating cynical MSM interpretation are shockingly vast.
“How can anyone be offfended to the apparent levels that the Islamists seem to be?” the typical Candian thinks.
Tossing this conflicting duality around in a stew of Multi-culti-socialist half truths and not gaining any further connection the typical Canuck goes “Default Candian”, and throws his hands in the air and says “they’re all crooked” or “both sides are equally wrong” and therefore saves his fragile ego from admitting that he is a blind brainwashed lazy galoot that could’nt reason his way out of a soggy cardboard 2four, let alone come down with a decision based on good and evil, or right and wrong.
The Nannystate has destroyed the confidence in the typical Canadian to even choose a side in what could be the battle for civilization.
“If Eric Margolies says “these drawings are unacceptably offensive” and I don’t see it then it must be everybody elses fault,… everybody equally however because the blame pie is always divided in half… “because that’s fair”.
Both sides are wrong his ego is intact and he didn’t even break a sweat now it’s time to buy a 6/49 ticket, wonder over to Tim Hortons to spend some of his gubmint cheque and dis Waynes wife.
Ezra should publish stills taken from a dozen or so videos that the MSM surrenderers have locked away in censor of innocent infidels having their heads sawed off as they plead for mercy, along with those fucking useless cartoons.
People who think the cartoons shouldn’t be published just because they offend Muslims are missing the point. Just about anything can offend a significant fraction of this group … the sight of a Jew, a cross or an asterisk(*) on a printed page (I am not kidding). Thirty years ago when I was working on a project with IBM the company was forced to manufacture custom print chains for mainframe printers being exported to the Middle East. The reason? … the standard printed asterisk had the same number of points as the Jewish “star of David” and the customers said this was a grave insult to Islam. IBM employees would be risking their lives if the change wasn’t made. Anyone who thinks you can avoid offending these fanatics by not publishing a few innocuous cartoons is engaging in wishful thinking. Your very existence offends them because you are not a Muslim.
Recently a University of Toronto academic has been recommending we cease making movies wherein women are depicted having professional careers or otherwise acting as peers of men because this is “offensive to Muslims”. Just because we CAN show women as equals to men, SHOULD we? Just how far are we willing to roll over in attempting to placate the beast of Islamo-fascism?
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Damnit, you’re right Rich, it’s US against THEM. Saddle up my Clydesdale, let’s get the crusades started. Are you with me cowboy?
Richfisher
Dont really agree with your point of view on the issues but I have to say you did make my day with this line. “now it’s time to buy a 6/49 ticket, wonder over to Tim Hortons to spend some of his gubmint cheque and dis Waynes wife.” LMAO
“Just because we CAN show women as equals to men, SHOULD we? Just how far are we willing to roll over in attempting to placate the beast of Islamo-fascism?”
Ah, the slippery slope argument. Well done.
I’ll believe this is about free speech when I see cartoons making fun of same sex marriage.
I heard a rumour on the Internets that a Zhid in Canada published those cartoons?
I demand that every paper prints cartoons making fun of black people. If they choose not to they’re just cowards, and they’re letting THEM take away our free speech.
Seriously do you not see how absurd this whole thing is?
RE “I’ll believe this is about free speech when I see cartoons making fun of same sex marriage.”
If you have Svend or any of his gang burning down buildings or threatening some straight bashing etc. because of some cartoons then you will likely see them as a news story in the Western Standard. If they were to be published as a cartoon with the purpose and intent of making fun of Gay Marriage then and only then I guess will you be able to wrap your mind around anything to do with free speech.
Look at the issues and events that have taken us here “ol hoss” and come back and repost with something we can discuss indepth once you have gotten your head around the entire issue.
Hey
Moral Hubris Vallcillation
Seen the trailers to your cowboy movie …no thanks.
Take no personal offense, none was intended I don’t even know you but based upon your comments I expected no judgement and reprisal.
Lets just say “The whole thing is just so fucking stupid. Both sides”… OK?
Vacillation …sorry :0)
Hey girls and boys. Cartoons fartoons! Take care of the underlying problem and anyone can print any cartoon they wish without fear.
The focus on the cure is a focus on not feeding the the frenzy raised by the Mullahs and Emirs with the help of the Al-Jezeera network.
A focus on bringing in more troops and mopping up properly in Afghanistan and Iraq is the unfinshed job at hand.
This is the worst possible time for Bush and Blair to go limp in the wrist.
A job was started and it has to be completed properly. Iran, Syria, Libiya and others fouled peace and democracy in Lebanon for over 32 years… This is just the same programme being pushed in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Oil rich dictator Emirs fear nothing except for peace, democracy and enough time for the population to think about their enslavement. TG
If you have Svend or any of his gang burning down buildings or threatening some straight bashing etc….
Look at the issues and events that have taken us here…
Yeah, yeah, tell that to the victims of tainted blood.
I guess you’re saying free speech should only be free if someone burns down buildings.
With an editor like that you certainly don’t want to do anything to make him blow up at you.
LOL
When they take [how many?] hostages and behead them live for TV as they beg for their life from the religion of peace, or go to Beslan and blow up a school full of Christian school children to show them the blessings of Allah, Or riot next time someone has a swimsuit contest, use a machete on some one just for being Christian and tie the bodies up for all to see the peace and blessings of Islam, or blow up a bar that the infidels attend, or set fire to some government buildings or set thousands of cars on fire and blame french youths, or take a bunch of people foolish enough to go to the theater and kill them, failing that fly airplanes into some skyscrapers of the great Satan. Or one of the lesser Satan’s. Plus Rushdie and Van Gough were killed. The list never ends and the worst effects are often not that which is deemed newsworthy.
They have a record of atrocities that make Guantanamo look like a picnic and when do all the so called Muslim moderates speak out? When Allah is insulted?
They should look at how many rapes they cause in Denmark
To be or not to be that is the wests question.
“I demand that every paper prints cartoons making fun of black people. If they choose not to they’re just cowards, and they’re letting THEM take away our free speech.”
“Seriously do you not see how absurd this whole thing is?”
Deep, deep thinking there, MHV. If the black community behaved in the same fashion, you might have an argument. It’s not about who Muslims are, but rather how (some)Muslims behave. Unfortunetly, the ‘innocent’ Muslims because of their complicity of silence may become tarred with the same brush.
Islamofacism is a cancer within the body of Islam and either they must exorcise the cancer or the greater world will. Cancer cannot be allowed to spread.
Neville Chamberlain felt that the ‘body politic’ would heal itself of German/Italian fascism through dialogue, prior to 1939. Sadly he was wrong, and millions paid the price.
When you enemies say they are determined to either kill or subjugate you, you should really pay attention.
“Seen the trailers to your cowboy movie …no thanks.”
LOL, good one rich.
“Take no personal offense, none was intended I don’t even know you but based upon your comments I expected no judgement and reprisal.
Lets just say “The whole thing is just so fucking stupid. Both sides”… OK?”
I think you may be a little confused, but it’s hard to tell exactly what you’re trying to say here.
I’ve seen cartoons mocking gay marriage. It’s a controversial issue. So what. Are we going to allow the media and politicians to designate what’s sacred and above reproach?
Should I censor my reply “sorry, bud, I like whaleburgers” to some annoying zealot from Greenpeace seeking a donation? (I like whales. I don’t like zealots.) Can I mock Wiccams and their objections to Halloween? (You bet.)
Let’s not forget the pervasive MSM depiction of religious people offended by abortion as uptight right wing nazis. Those all-powerful evil Christian fundamentalists that don’t even have the clout to clean up children’s tv programs, restore a nativity creche to public buildings or herd the masses back into church are so feared and loathed by the MSM.
Ask yourself why the leftist MSM is bending over backwards to not offend Islam when there isn’t a day somewhere they haven’t offended everyone else? They and the elitist intellectuals have degraded the Christian religion so perversely in the US, Canada and Europe over the decades that their misplaced sensitivity to Islam is galling in its hypocrisy.
“Islamofacism is a cancer within the body of Islam and either they must exorcise the cancer or the greater world will. Cancer cannot be allowed to spread.”
Fundamentalism is a cancer within any religious body, I agree. But your entire post is geting off topic. My original point is that an editor looking at a cartoon and deciding not to publish it because it is offensive is exercising his or her free speech. I highly doubt anyone in Canada would choose not to publish the cartoons out of fear. But maybe some people did, I don’t know. I’m just saying that this toughguy attitude where anyone who doesn’t publish the cartoons is a coward, and that by publishing the cartoons “we’ll show them” is just stupid.
But back to your post, you say cancer cannot be allowed to spread. What then, do you propse we do? Wipe out the entire body because of cancer in the arm?
“Ask yourself why the leftist MSM is bending over backwards to not offend Islam when there isn’t a day somewhere they haven’t offended everyone else?”
It’s because they’re with THEM Penny. It’s a giant conspiracy to allow Islam to rule the world. In exchange the MSM will be granted an island where they’ll be allowed to exist, while the rest of us will be wiped out. They need to be stopped. Grab your six shooter and saddle up cowboy.
Recently a University of Toronto academic has been recommending we cease making movies wherein women are depicted having professional careers or otherwise acting as peers of men because this is “offensive to Muslims”.
Not that I find it unbelievable, but geez, is this serious? Got a link?
I highly doubt it’s true myself, but who knows? I also would like to see a link.
since when does one person (a editor of the media) determine for me and others what constitutes free speech ? dumb question on my part because it simply comes down to the bottom line $$$. no principals or values here just $$$.
Cowgirl.
So what’s your plan, big guy? Employ sarcasm until they surrender?
I highly doubt anyone in Canada would choose not to publish the cartoons out of fear.
Besides a real possibilty of mayham from Muslim protestors, their offices being torched, running counter to the multi-culti pc fascists…. what would motivate an editor in a free society from publishing those insipid cartoons? Good taste? Please. Wrong answer, if you have been viewing the MSM over the decades with the rest of us. Did you cheat and view the cartoons on the internet or did you abide by the MSM rules? Come on, big guy, give us an answer.
Fundamentalism is a cancer within any religious body
Hum. Wouldn’t it depend on the fundamentals of a particular religion. So if I’m, let’s say, a Bhuddist fundamentalist could you point out the pathology there? The fundamental cancer? We are waiting.
Penny, the debate we need to be having in the West is where is the line in the sand?
The militant fundamentalist muslims have what as their agenda? Is it limited to just eradicating Israel? Just a portion of Israel? World domination?
Does abandoning support for Israel end conflict between Islam and the West?
I, for one, believe that there is within Islam a faction that has the elimination of the West as its goal. That faction is well organized, enabled in its communications by the very product of the West, it has funds, it has a framework of logic that convinces young people to commit suicide, and probably has a well-ensconsed fifth column in place already. I do not believe it will be deterred in its mission any form of appeasement by the West. Like scaling a rockface, each appeasement is simply a better hand or foothold.
You may believe otherwise. But that is what I believe.
It is a pity that many devout and pious men and women within Islam have had their religion hijacked. I worked side by side with a muslim gentleman for over a decade in the US, and he was and remains one of my best friends. He would know that publishing these cartoons is not an insult to him – he would understand (because we could have a rational discussion about it) that publishing these cartoons is a line being drawn in the sand. It is a distinct message to that militant faction of Islam that would end our lives that we will fight back.
I will fight back. I have as much right to live on this planet in my own way as they do.
Oh the great hand-wringing over the insults to Islam. Let me be very clear: to those within Islam who let Allah, or God, or whatever, deal with the issues that are His to deal with, and conduct their lives in peace, and good will, I say we have no ill will in our hearts.
To the militant Islamic faction that would slit the throats of my children while they sleep, I say, you think these cartoons are harsh? We know we must defeat you, and we will, or die trying.
You may believe otherwise.
Step back. I’m in complete agreement and have never said a word otherwise in any comment I’ve written.
You’ve misconstrued my reply to the smarmy apologist MHV. I think you need to re-read the posts above.
My apologies Penny.
MHV, you shit disturber, the proof of the pudding about the fear factor is the disingenuous reasons of so many editors across the country. I just took to task the editor of The Telegram, St. John�s only dead tree MSM for his specious argument. Check it out here: (not my argument, the article)
http://www.thetelegram.com/columnists.aspx?pname=Columns&PageType=Columnists&ColumnType=Column&ColumnistId=106
I am sure that most Publishers in Canada and elsewhere for that matter don’t have the guts to admit they are afraid. We have become a land of Lotus Eaters, we have become fat and complacent, we all of a sudden have been brought up short and the picture is not very scenic. Does the word “weak” ring a bell? So all these great defenders of free speech who over the last few generations have vociferously claimed free speech while vilifying those who they knew would only voice a weak protest. The Christian milieu, the Jewish folks et al. It must feel so good to be a left wingnut and put those wacko Christians in their place, “How dare they complain!” Then we have the Muslim hordes who almost took over Europe, (everyone is not a history buff) are pissed, they are a force to be reckoned with and have proved it and close to home too. The Western Standard has been reported to the police for posting the cartoons. Any of you out there who don’t believe there is intimidation here needs to see me about a seaside estate with tropical palms and pink powder sand on Bell Island, Conception Bay, Newfoundland.
The line has to be drawn in that pink sand and the MSM has shown nothing but cowardice. No wonder the circulation of the major papers continues to plummet, with insta info today most aware individuals are way ahead of the of these turds who rely on several hundred years of Fleet Street tradition unimpeded by progress.