Newspapers across Europe have reprinted caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad to show support for a Danish paper whose cartoons have sparked Muslim outrage.
Seven publications in France, Germany, the Netherlands, Italy and Spain all carried some of the drawings.
Next: Porky Pig in a hajib!
A directory containing the offending cartoons is here
Of course, you’d never seen anything so offensive in the Arab world;
(post updated)
Most of the world’s troubles come from organized religion’s. If they were gone it would be better.
People seem to like to do evil while quoting God.
Billybob:
What do you do when you outlaw religions? You make atheism the state religion.
The French have tried that. It brings their ruling class into conflict with their Muslim and Christian population.
The right answer is found in the Maryland Act of Toleration of 1649, the British Toleration Act of 1689 and French Edicts of Toleration such as the Edict of St-Germain(1562), Edict of Nantes(1598) and the Edict of Toleration (1787) and there are many other examples internationally. These ones are the most germain in the Canadian context.
Toleration and Moderation in everything.
billy bob all the last centuries biggest atrocities were perpetuated by secualar types.
Whether Hitlers death camps, Stalins gulags and noodles, the killing fields of cambodia, lets not forget commie china and the biggest one of all the great abortion genocide. 3 million dead in Canada alone.
Even Muslims who I hold in low regard can’t hold a candle to the above.
If Israel gets nuked then muslims will join until then they aren’t even on the short list.
I’m guessing you watch a lot of TV, they lie like that a lot.
Are they just stupid? I don’t know….
So where are all the Leftie Moonbats that so value Freedom of Speech? Where are all the Judy Rebicks of the world who “fight” for women’s rights? Looking at that picture, shouldn’t the feminazi’s be protesting Islams treatment of women by forcing them to wear not just a veil, but complete black bodygear?
Why isn’t the Left supporting Freedom of Speech?I’m waiting…
I suppose I’ll be waiting a long time too!
As an aside, has anyone noticed how the women in that picture look just like KKK members in black? I think they’d approve of a burning cross too.
French Editor Fired for Mohammed Cartoons
The managing editor of France Soir, who published the Danish Mohammed cartoons as a gesture of support for free speech, has been fired, and the owner of the paper has issued a groveling apology. (Hat tip: LGF readers.)
France Soir originally said it had published the images in full to show �religious dogma� had no place in a secular society.
But late on Wednesday its owner, Raymond Lakah, said he had removed managing editor Jacques Lefranc �as a powerful sign of respect for the intimate beliefs and convictions of every individual�.
Mr Lakah said: �We express our regrets to the Muslim community and all people who were shocked by the publication.�
The president of the French Council of the Muslim Faith (CFCM), Dalil Boubakeur, had described France Soir�s publication as an act of �real provocation towards the millions of Muslims living in France�. >> via LGF
Edict Of Nantes Revoked:
The Revocation of The Edict of Nantes
… of Nantes was revoked and the protection of the Protestants went with it. …
The revocation of the edict of Nantes, was dictated by priests equally …
http://www.antipas.org/books/papacy_in_history/pap_part2_4.html – 7k –
Well said DrWright. This Month’s National Geographic has an interesting piece on the major genocides of the 20th century. The record of the secular collectivists is horrifying.
I would ban nothing. Religion is a private matter
and should remain so. People do not need a pope,
eman, archbishop or witchdoctor to tell them what to do. Any person acting in a preaching or teaching role in any religion who aspires to
rise to the leadership of that religion has started to move away from the basic precept of that religion and serves no useful purpose
Petunia Pig, surely?
Every single newspaper in the free world should publish these cartoons and more, front page, every day, for a month. Let them yell themselves hoarse in their futility.
my .02
People who blame religion for the world’s ills seem to have an almost religious fervor about it all. They also seem willing to criticize only the currently peaceful religions.
Great O’Sullivan article. It is unfortunate that Jimmy Carter for one, is saying we must accept Hamas and treat them the way we did Fatah; i.e. keep sending money. Fatah showed many signs of wanting to keep the “struggle” going and the current predicament is IMO primarily due to Western appeasement dating back decades.
Maz2 points out that the brave French editor has been fired and dear old Bill Clitnon has railed against the cartoons. The hypocrisy from the Muslim world on this is breathtaking but the lefties in the West keep encouraging it.
Now good moose-limbs don’t drink Danish vodka or eat Danish pork products, right? So what do they consume that anyone would notice them stop?
That picture shows that the effect on Canadas potato sack industry is finished as a viable industry in Toronto. Does no one care?
Sorry – for those confused about the mention of the O’Sullivan article – I edited the post to concentrate on the cartoons, after writing the original version.
Billy Bob,
Jesus Himself appointed Peter as Pope and as such the institution of apostolic succession. Do tell how this is a “move away from basic precepts”. Your degree in theology is from…?
Democracy, if not dollars subverts ideology. Let’s see if it works again.
Kathy Shaidie
Apostolic sucession,your degree in theology is from…?
Ever hear of the dark ages, roman inquistion, Martin Luther and the 95 theses nailed to the door.
Get back to me after you read them,your behind the times.
“Toleration and Moderation in everything.”
An ideal concept, however, why is it that only overtly religious people have such difficulty grasping this concept?
Yesterday I wrote of letter of support for the Danish people and I e-mailed it to the Embassy of Denmark in Ottawa. Please let them know that you care.
http://www.ambottawa.um.dk/en
The protesters pointed out the basic Catholic misunderstanding that’s still debated to this day. Jesus didn’t appoint Peter pope. What he said was, “…on this rock I will build my church.” Despite the name Peter being synonomous with rock or stone, what he was referring to was the truth of Peter’s statement revealing Jesus as being the son of God. That is the ‘rock’ of Christian faith. Not some dude called the pope. You also have to ask yourself, if Jesus is the intercessor, isn’t the pope redundant in that regard?
Oh, and in my other post I was referring to Hamas. Sorry.
Answering a fool using their own foolishness is to become aa the fool.
Looks like peace is just around the corner:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/cpress/20060202/ca_pr_on_wo/prophet_drawings
Egads…
I used to have a lot of degrees … all from the Eddie Match company … or at least whatever school advertised on the back them. kidding.
We don’t need to ban organized religions, couldn’t do it if you tried. Consider that they mostly do about as much good as bad … so they are more or less innocuous.
BUT … Islam in it’s present form has to go. In case you don’t know for sure … it’s down to them or us. Believe it! They are all bad all the time.
Oh .. and maybe buy something Danish this week .. to show support .. it’s our war too infidels.
Despite the name Peter being synonomous with rock or stone, what he was referring to was the truth of Peter’s statement revealing Jesus as being the son of God. That is the ‘rock’ of Christian faith.
Not to mention the Greek doesn’t support Peter being referred to as the Rock.
It is a fundamental law in Greek grammar, without exception, that the Article, Pronoun, and Adjective must agree in gender with the Noun to which they refer.
In Matt. 16:18, the Pronoun “this” is Feminine, and thus agrees with petra, which is also Feminine, and not with petros (Peter) which is Masculine.
Billybob, I can see part of your argument, especially within the context of Muslim, for instance, being hijacked by extreme Islamofascism. No religion can call itself that if it supports, tacitly or otherwise, the intentional killing of individuals, groups or countries. That goes for Bin Laden and those who shoot abortion doctors. Not religious – just murderers, dangerous but common criminals. Having said that, the VAST majority of people who practice religion do so within the teachings of morality, peace and love. Read the sermon from the mount and you will see the standards Jesus set out for Christians – an extremely high standard of conduct indeed – love your God and love your brother as a start point only. Running around being offended and using that outrage as an excuse for violence does not advance one’s spirituality, whether they be Christian, Jewish, Muslim or any other religion.
Tonight I’ll raise a Tuborg in honour of the Danes…surprisingly, they and the Dutch are starting to show some gonads in their dealings with these koranimals.If only we would follow their lead….HA! Fat chance!
In order to combat the CREEPING FASCISM of the Islamists in the West and here in Canada, we need to harness the support of groups who have no love of Muslims; folks who may have come to this great land fleeing Muslim oppression: Sikhs, Hindus, Jews, Confucians, etc., ad nauseam.
Most members of these immigrant groups do not clamour, whine, snivel, complain or actively subvert the societies they have been so graciously accepted into? Quite the contrary: they are grateful and want to fit in. Most of them do not see an aggressive threat in liberal parliamentary democracy and in free society.
There’s something peculiarly incompatible between the Muslim mind-set and freedom…other people’s freedom, that is! I suggest a complete moratorium on Muslim immgration until this changes…of course, the bastards in charge won’t take steps until a WMD suicide-device is set off in the heart of Tranna or Montreal by a member of our oh-so-beloved Muslim community.
And therefore I second the Dukester’s comments!
PS – Lakah…sounds like a Muslim name to me! Anyone know?
Off we go again – running around chasing our tails. What the heck does all this outpouring of religious rhetoric have to do with the main issue?
This is a Muslim vs Jew hatred that isn’t going away anytime soon. Now the Danes as well as the French have to fall over themselves apologizing for offending the Muslim sensibilities. We’ll all be grovelling before this over.
A Danish woman who has Muslim friends writing on the Religion Policeman blog:
“..being held responsible for the actions of “my” government) that the Danish success in saving its Jewish population during WWII is now being linked with us being “Jew lovers” (because *of course* there’s a Jewish conspiracy behind this)…
Christianity is a faith in which God sends his son to die for you, [while Islam is] a religion in which God requires you to send your son to die for him. – John Ashcroft
Unlike Mohammed, I don’t believe Christ proselytized with a sword in his hand.
Many people operate their agendas in the NAME of religion. If you go to the roots of the religion they operate outside of it’s true teachings. I’m a Christian and I try to operate under Jesus’s teachings. My choice of political party is based on what fits my values the most. ie conservatives Jesus didn’t promote prostitution but he supported the woman trapped in that life. On abortion i’m sure he wouldn’t support it, but he would probably be most concerned about the woman caught in that situation, ecpecting others to help. I personally know women who had abortions when younger and were effected by the system that pushed them to make the decision without getting all the facts, help, and counciling they needed at the time. All of them regret their decision, and one now councils from a christian point of view, but she WON’T condemn anyone who decides to go through with it. In fact she supports the woman no matter what the decision. ei It’s between them and God.
On the cartoons I don’t like ones that insult Jesus but I do find humour in others. It’s a balancing act. I feel that Jesus does have a sence of humour and he’s not the kid hugging/ sheep petting guy most non-christians see him as. Most of his rebukes of the church leaders of the time used sarcasm. When I see cartoons that “attack the church, I also look at why the cartoonist feels that way. Many times there is a valid reason that points out a hypocracy.
Muslims need to look at themselves to see why these images are striking a nerve with the rest of the world. Many Westerners feel that remaining silent in acts of terrorism, is silently approving it. The Muslim community right or not must LEAD the renouncment of terrorism or it WILL be linked to it.
“Unlike Mohammed, I don’t believe Christ proselytized with a sword in his hand. ”
Tell that to the Finns.
Cal2: Christianity is a faith in which God sends his son to die for you, [while Islam is] a religion in which God requires you to send your son to die for him. – John Ashcroft
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Right on.
Unlike Mohammed, I don’t believe Christ proselytized with a sword in his hand.
Posted by Cal at February 2, 2006 01:06 PM
“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law-�a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.”
Matthew 10:34-36
“[Jesus] said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
Luke 22:36
We have gone from propounding political propaganda to trading tenets of religious faith. Obviously sex is next. Let’s keep it clean – and rational.
Nine days after 9/11, when G.W. Bush addressed Congress he stated: “They hate our freedoms — our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other.”
Ever since he has been derided by those who said he is far too simplistic. Mention Bush and “they hate our freedoms” and you get a rolling of the eyes and a smirk from those enlightened folks who want to address the “root causes.”
Try this exercise. Google: Bush, “they hate our freedoms”, and watch what comes up. Most of it is either from the left or from moonbat conspiracy theorists. How much longer are these people going to keep apologizing for the Islamofascists?
Doug, that millions of Protestant heretics foolishly decided to rebel against the authority of Christ the Lord is beyond my control.
Behind the Curtain,
I am not a Christian, but I think that historically, in 300 years, Christianity grew from a few Jewish followers of Jesus to becoming the religion of the Roman Empire. Christianity grew not by forcing people to convert, but by the power of its ideas. Islam came out of the Arabian peninsula and spread by giving people a choice: convert or die. Those called “people of the Book” (Jews and Christians) had to live in Islamic lands, as “dhimmis”/people who have no rights.
When Jesus talks about coming with a sword, I think that he was talking about the rising rebellion of Jews against the Roman Empire
Oh boy, now Catholic popery vs. Protestant ‘heretics’. Kathy, It’s amazing how you misconstrue the misconstrued and further misconstrue that into rebelling against Christ. Protestants, if anything, removed a man, the Pope, from the chain of command, thus giving Christ his rightful and singular place. Rebelling against Christ? No. Rebelling against Catholic dogma and the abusive sale of ‘relics’? Yes.
Kathy Shaidle, Which of of Luthers’ 95 theses can you prove to be at odds with scripture? To put it more simply, which do you believe to have greater authority – the vatican or scripture?
We’ll the Bible has got something for everybody if they want to take a snippet and use it out of context.
I believe that the “sword” was not to be taken literally although many people have.
I feel at a disadvantage in a battle of scripture quoting but oh well:
Luke
22:49 When they which were about him saw what would follow, they said unto him, Lord, shall we smite with the sword?
22:50 And one of them smote the servant of the high priest, and cut off his right ear.
22:51 And Jesus answered and said, Suffer ye thus far. And he touched his ear, and healed him.
Posted by Johan i Kanada ,
“Tell that to the Finns.”
I didn’t know that Christ had visited Finland or did they go to see him?
I have a Mormon friend that said Christ spent some time in Utah, though. Maybe that’s how the legend of Zorro got started..
And maybe I’m just a big picture guy. His message was summed up nicely in The Lord’s Prayer.
And people wonder why secularism is on the rise around the world. We can only hope it continues, along with a little rationalism.
Soon the world will realize that this so called war on terror is really a war on civilizations. It is sad that political correctness prevents politicians and the media from saying this. To those supporting all the muslims in Canada, do you really want to live and dress that way. And remember, Toronto has just elected a muslim who says Islam is now in the Cdn govt. Wonder if he plans to blow it up, or if Bill Graham will ban him from caucus. And who did he replace, Parrish. What is with the voters in that riding. They should all be investigated, and are probably on Bush’s NSA list. I agree that immigration from all countries supporting Islam as a religion should be banned for 20 yrs. No money should be allowed to be sent to those countries by individuals or organizations. No support of any kind for the Hamas.
Michelle Malkin has posted the 12 disciples, er cartoons here, as she says , for the sake of posterity and in solidarity : via freerepublic.com >>
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004413.htm
“Here, for posterity and in solidarity with the paper’s free speech rights, are the 12 forbidden cartoons:”
And people wonder why secularism is on the rise around the world. We can only hope it continues, along with a little rationalism.
Oh, you mean like the rise of socialism and it’s daddy communism? 100 million murdered from that little experiment in secular rationalism.
It would be interesting to see the reaction in the Western World if similar cartoons were published mocking Catholic/Christian/Jewish beliefs.
“100 million murdered from that little experiment in secular rationalism. ”
Of course I believe that…without any facts or numbers to back it up. Typical.
I hope this wakes the Christian west out of their slumber!
Actually, Lew, Christianity is on the rise around the world. Which means other faiths are in decline. Guess what that includes.
Pop quiz, Dead Critter Gang:
Hillary Clinton and First Lady Bush are alone in the same room when in bursts a radical Islamofascist yelling “Allahu Akhbar! with his thumb on the red button connected to the plastic explosive on his belt.
Question: Which gal would be more likely to want to sit down with the “demonstrator” and discuss “root causes”, “why do you hate us, Ahmed?” and “where can I find a burkha so that I may quickly convert and save my sorry ass….And which gal is more likely to quickly scan the room for a suitable weapon, or simply use her bare hands and fingernails to kill the mother@ucker?
I recall an interview with former American folk singer “Cat Stevens”, now converted to Islam claiming of his new found faith something along the lines of “you guys in the west better watch what you say about us. What you say makes some of us want to kill you”. Now THAT’S freakin’ scary.
No point in defending the Danes publishing cartoons. The National Post, [ better than average btw], could publish one or two small examples or just say nothing.
Not publishing any Muslem cartoons in these dangerous times is my preference, and here is my reason why.
It plays directly into the hands of Iranians, Syrians and Jihadists.
This friction helps to keep things off balance for the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. It slows the progress of democracy.
That is all these countries who enjoy iron- fisted absolute rule want. To hold off the advance of democracy.
No wonder they are printing more counterfeit cartoons to add to the madness.
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