Just click.
April 2005 SDA flashback. In response, Goodale cites an audit that representatives from Ernst and Young can’t remember “watering down”.
UPDATE– Kevin Steele is reporting that “word started to go around the media bus that Scott Reid had emailed a reporter informing him that the Prime Minister will no longer answer any questions on income trusts.”
That’s so going to make them stop.
Suprisingly, you should read David Dingwall’s response. He rips him a new one,
As usual you and a few other stalwarts are way out in front of the MSM.
While waiting for them to catch up, you can read the latest CTV headline… or is it from the ’04 election?
“Liberals guarantee timely access to health care”
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060103/ELXN_martin_health_060104/20060104?s_name=election2006
Hmmm… yessss…. ah, the smell of fresh Librano blood every day. Makes one wish one were a vampire…
Paulie’s looking a tad paler each day…
It’s surreal. Each day there’s yet more news of Librano corruption and possible criminality…
If they weren’t politicians, they’d have surrendered unconditionally long ago. But since they continue to hang on despite incipient doom, it’s up to us to move in for the kill…
It’s too bad the Liberals never learned the lessons of the losers of WWII…
Martin/Goodale Watch: Bloggers are watching you; asking questions;demanding answers; demanding accountability.
RCMP Motto: Maintiens le Droit.>>>
Ask the RCMP, PM tells reporters
by Romeo St. Martin
[PoliticsWatch Updated 4:30 p.m. January 4, 2006]
Prime Minister Paul Martin
OTTAWA � Prime Minister Paul Martin signaled Wednesday that he is through with answering reporters’ questions about the RCMP criminal investigation of his government’s income trust announcement.
The timing of the investigation has landed smack dab in the middle of a close federal election campaign that now features the Conservatives pushing ahead of the governing Liberals in most daily tracking polls.
And the controversy has also derailed the PM’s message.
Reporters seem almost apologetic at each campaign stop after Martin makes a lengthy campaign announcement only to have the first questions be “off topic” and about the latest Liberal scandal.
“If you want to have the answers to these questions, I’m not going to basically get involved in what the RCMP is doing,” Martin said while campaigning in Victoria.
“I’m sure you can ask these questions of the RCMP. But I’m not going to be responding on a daily basis to an investigation and examinations being handled by the RCMP.
“I’m not in a position to tell you what the RCMP is going to do. All I can tell you is that to the best of my knowledge they have contacted no one in my office.”
Martin made the comments after being asked the names of the people in the Prime Minister’s Office and the cabinet ministers who had advance knowledge of Finance Minister Ralph Goodale’s November 23 announcement on income trusts.
…………………
“People will have real doubts about sharing information with government and I think the ramification will be widespread and serious and we’ve got to restore that kind of faith in the process.
“There’s got to be an understanding of a) confidentiality around any budget decision and b) some recommitment to the notion of ministerial responsibility.”
The NDP MP has also filed complaints with the Ontario Securities Commission and the U.S. Securities Exchange Commission.
She said the OSC will not confirm or deny if they are investigating the trading activity, but the SEC has responded.
“They did acknowledge that the letter has been registered. They’ve given me a file number, a person that is in charge and say they are having discussions with their international affairs office.”
But the SEC has a policy of not confirming an investigation until a case is filed in court and Wasylycia-Leis said they were pretty clear to her they would not divulge any other information regarding her complaint. >>>
http://www.politicswatch.com/itscam-jan4-2006.htm
http://www.rcmp.ca/factsheets/fact_badges_e.htm
Just got off the TV from flipping back and forth between Don Newman & Mike Duffy. Interesting news:
1. The CPC now puts the “loss to ordinary investors” at $15 billion, implying of course that the other side went to “those in the know”. Fair game in love and war.
2. Goodale is being supported by a lot of folks, with lines like, “He’s as honest as the day is long”, and “You couldn’t get the time of day out of him, that’s how tight he is …. compared to Martin’s reign in Finance which was worse than a leaky ship”.
3. Goodale is now pointing the finger at the PMO. Observers opine that since they (the PMO) aren’t standing up for him, so he isn’t going to be the captain and be the only one going down with the ship.
This one has real legs.
As an aside, I see that Roy McMurtry, Ontario’s Chief Justice, is about to rain on Martin’s own Charter cherry-picking. Interview tonight on CTV.
It’s a wonderful, wonderful election, isn’t it?
What the PM meant to say was he wasn’t going to answer questions until he’d told the RCMP how to play it. And I agree. He is looking pale and OLD. Watching him schmooze with all these elderly women is like watching granny porn. He’s soooooooo slimy.
You’ll find that the RCMP announcement came while the Prime Minister appointed commissioner was on vacation. This ship is sinking, brother, and it’s sinking fast. Looks like we’re at 36%. We hit 40%, baby, and we’re talking majority (OOPS, can’t SAY that.) Looks like the elite aren’t so elite anymore.
I wonder if Paul Martin is rereading Hamlet and renting the Mel Gibson version on DVD?
Sorry to go OT, but too good to pass up:
Bush Caused the Extinction of Dinoaurs!
Maz2 is correct regarding the SEC.
The SEC respond witha an email with a file number for one’s email.
Below is a portion of the email I recieved which states as follows-
SEC Response-File# (I have deleted my numbers))
“We will carefully consider your request for an investigation. But at this point, our office can do nothing further to help you. This is because the SEC generally conducts its investigations on a confidential basis and neither confirms nor denies the existence of an investigation until we bring charges against someone involved. We cannot provide you with updates on the status of your complaint or of any pending SEC investigation. We know this policy can be frustrating, but it protects the integrity and effectiveness of our investigative process and preserves the privacy of the individuals and entities involved. Our policy is more fully described below.”
I’m marvelling right now. Holy feck– the stinky brown matter keeps piling up in front of 24 Sussex Dr. so rapidly I’m having one helluva time keeping up with it all. Thank goodness I’m not the only blogger out there doing the good thing…
This is very nice work by Kate, Stephen Taylor, etc. Let’s keep up the bombardment!
The Liberal campaign is unravelling likely a poorly, loosely knit sweater. Just when you think you’ve seen it all, another thread comes loose & starts another chain reaction.
Bets on how long it is before Robert Fife actually cries on air?
Scott Reid still has a job? I’ll be damned…
Incidentally, a popcorn and beer party will be held at my place on January 23…
p.s Candice, I thought crying was all Fife has been doing the last month. Also, watching Mansbridge shed tears on the air Right after the government finally fell, did not get nearly enough attention, considering how much it so warmed my heart… Does anyone have video of it posted?
I don’t know about all this talk about Goodale being an honest man. I find him stiff and lacking personality and passion….
hmmmm… good argument, hey?
“I don’t know about all this talk about Goodale being an honest man. I find him stiff and lacking personality and passion….
hmmmm… good argument, hey?”
Haven’t you noticed he looks angry as well?
You know your not having a good campaign when you have to direct reporters to talk to the cops to find out about your goings on.
Oh yes Drained!
Ethics Schmethics. I don’t think I want someone that angry in government. Scary!
Drained, the Martin Liberals have been running on empty for the past year.
After the last election, they congratulated themselves claiming they are the greatest politicial strategists in the history of politics.
They governed like they had been elected for life.
They suckered some people, like the belindabeast who crawled away from dinner with her boyfriend to have political relations with Martin.
Now, they seek to sucker the media, all Canadians and the world.
The only problem is running on empty, they just missed the last gas station.
Why?
They were cheering at Paul again.
Tired.
Who appointed the current RCMP commissioner? Chretien did. Why was there no criminal investigation into the cocaine seized from one of PMPM’s CSL ships in Halifax Harbour? The crew said they knew nothing, good enough for the RCMP, no grounds for further review.
All government ministries, departments, branches, agencies, organizations, appointees, everything has to be gone over with a fine tooth comb to root out all of the graft, corruption, theft and prosecute those charged to the full extent of the law. All judicial appointments must be reviewed and terminations have to happen where warranted to restore the publics faith in the justice system.
The time is near to let the Auditor General do the job she’s supposed to do for the people, with no road blocks put up in front of her by these organized criminals who call themselves Liberal’s
Lanny describes Ralphie G.:
“I don’t know about all this talk about Goodale being an honest man. I find him stiff and lacking personality and passion….”
What is Ralphie, a porn star? LOL
Seriously, Bruce, do you happen to have a link to a story on the cocaine on a CSL ship? I’d love to look into that, if possible…
BTW, I just posted some more Paulie humor at TCS…
CS, I think I can dig that up for you.
Get your paper shredders while there still available, closer to January 23 and if it looks like the Libs are going down paper shredders may become hard to get.
CARP, Income Trusts, Goodale, Martin, Valeri, Black,McCallum, & on, and , on, the list of suspects grows.>>>>
RCMP visited CARP prior to income trust probe
Updated Wed. Jan. 4 2006 6:47 PM ET
Canadian Press
OTTAWA � The RCMP interviewed an executive member of a seniors group shortly before launching a criminal probe into a possible federal leak about income trust changes.
Bill Gleberzon of the Canadian Association of Retired Persons said Wednesday that two Mounties from the force’s Milton, Ont., detachment visited in mid-December.
The RCMP officers were interested in what Gleberzon, the Toronto-based group’s associate executive director, may have been told in late November about imminent changes to tax policies which moved financial markets and created an election campaign scandal.
Gleberzon says he received a phone call from Finance Minister Ralph Goodale’s office indicating there would be an announcement on income trusts.
But he denies being told of the content or timing.
The RCMP officers told Gleberzon a separate team of Mounties was also asking questions in Ottawa.
The Mounties said late last month they would begin a criminal probe of the matter.
Gleberzon said he has not been contacted since by the force.
It was also revealed Wednesday that two federal cabinet colleagues were given a heads up by Goodale before he made the tax changes.
Opposition politicians have loudly complained that Liberal insiders must have leaked details to market players who made a great deal of money on the Toronto Stock Exchange in last-minute trading before Goodale’s Nov. 23 announcement related to income trusts.
But Revenue Minister John McCallum says neither he nor his staff leaked any information that could have caused dramatic spikes in trading that day and triggered the RCMP investigation.
“Naturally, I didn’t tell anyone else,” nor did two of his staff members who were also informed of Goodale’s plan, McCallum said in an interview Wednesday.
“I’m assured by both of them that they spoke to no one and certainly, I spoke to no one,” he added.>>more
http://www.rapp.org/url/?90HM816O
ctv.ca
Has anyone noticed that whenever Liberal candidates are shown at photo ops, there is always a red background reading “Paul Martin’s Liberals…”?
Since the Income Trust story broke, the background behind Ralph Goodale simply reads “Liberals”…
Coincidence?
Hey CS, here’s a couple of links to the
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http://www.orwelltoday.com/cocainecanadapm.shtml
http://canadafreepress.com/2004/main070904.htm
With my barehands….
Paul Martin today:
“Let me tell you, I am very proud of having started with a small Canadian company, uh, a small Canadian company, which today, uh, build, uh, most of it’s ships in Canada�.”
Hmmm.
I thought you were hired as Maurice Strong’s personal assistant – the family friend who was head of Power Corp – who owned CSL. You then were put on the board of CSL, then President, and then the next year, in a sweet-heart leveraged deal, bought the company for $190 million.
Your typical rags to riches story right. Right?
I still chuckle to myself when I read this post I wrote near the end of the last election – I quoted the following:
“I wanted to go the Third World and Maurice Strong was very actively involved in the Third World and I really wanted to get involved in environmental matters … and he was a leading environmentalist,” Martin says.
He met with Strong at his home near Geneva.
“And I said, `Look, I want to get a job in the Third World.’ And he said, `That’s all we need in the Third World, another lawyer. I can’t think of anything more useless. Go into business, learn a little bit about business, and then you can go.’
“I said, `That makes sense,’ so I went into business and I stayed.”
It’s a story told so often, it is part of the Martin legend.
But Strong says “it is not quite true.” He says he didn’t suggest Martin go into business.
“He was interested in getting business experience and he came to ask me about business and about what would be good preparation for that,” says Strong in a telephone interview. “I did tell him that if he continued to be interested, I would be happy to see what I could do and be as helpful as I could.”
Which he did. In 1966, as president of Montreal-based Power Corp. of Canada, Strong hired Martin as his personal assistant.
Lots of Martin and CSL details on Wiki. I didn’t even know this piece of trivia:
His declaration of assets upon entering Parliament included ownership of dozens of companies around the world, thirty-three ships, office buildings, apartment blocks and movie theatres. In 2004 Forbes.com estimated Martin’s personal wealth at $225,000,000 (USD).
# posted @ 1/04/2006 04:20:00 PM>>>
video here:
http://talkcanada.blogspot.com/
If it’s so successful, presumably CSL has paid back the $160 million they borrowed from taxpayers, haven’t they? You remember the loan that was listed as $37,500, but oops, clerical error. It’s really 160 million (or maybe 16 million? 160 sounds a lot, even for Howard Dean Martin).
Where is the memo? Who has a copy? Does Warren have a copy? Does Martin have the original memo? Search: Martin’s Sponsorship Memo 1995. >>>
Opposition targets PM over sponsorship memo
by Allison Dunfield, Globe and Mail
Opposition MPs aggressively circled the Prime Minister Tuesday, saying that a 1995 memo shows he lobbied for one firm to win a federal contract despite his arguments that he knew nothing of the way sponsorship rules were being broken.
During Question Period, Opposition Leader Stephen Harper quoted from an internal memo from Warren Kinsella, an aide to then-public works minister David Dingwall, to Public Works bureaucrat Charles Guit�.
The July 24, 1995, document said that when Prime Minister Paul Martin was finance minister, his department awarded seven ad contracts, worth $525,900 to a pair of Liberal-friendly firms without following appropriate guidelines.
In the memo, Mr. Kinsella said that “none of these procurements were conducted through [Public Works] contrary to cabinet-approved guidelines. This is simply unacceptable.”
�I require an immediate explanation as to how the department in question [Finance] was permitted to breach the guidelines in this way, and what is being done to remedy the situation.�
In particular, the memo suggested that Mr. Martin lobbied for Earnscliffe Research and Communications, a firm where key supporters of the Prime Minister work, for advertising contracts.
“This damning memo exposes the Prime Minister as a rule breaker. How can Canadians possibly trust him after this?” asked Conservative MP Diane Ablonczy during Question Period.
But Mr. Martin and Public Works Minister Ralph Goodale argued that in fact, the Earnscliffe contract was inherited from the old Conservtive government and as soon as they took office, they asked to have open, tendered contracts and as many firms on the list as possible.
He said they wanted the tendering process to be as transparent as possible.”We followed the rules, Mr. Speaker,” Mr. Martin said.
Conservative MP James Moore called the memo a “smoking gun.”
Throughout Question Period Tuesday, Conservative MPs stood up one after another and repeatedly accused the Prime Minister of knowingly being involved in favouritism with Earnscliffe.
Mr. Martin did not take most of the questions on the issue at first, but seemed to grow increasingly frustrated until finally he lashed out and accused the opposition of being unable to ask questions about anything else besides the sponsorship problems. He accused them of making a “mockery” of the parliamentary process.
“The fact is, Mr. Speaker, this opposition is opposed to everything that is in the public interest.”
“We wouldn’t have to repeat our questions if we just got one, honest answer,” retorted Conservative MP Leon Ben�it. >>>
http://paulmartintime.ca/mediacoverage/000453.html
Knight of Good Mr Iron Man: Thanks for the laugh, we all must remember our sanity and take time to laugh. Great idea, we should plan a blog popcorn and beer night online election night! AND letter the kernels fall where they may! Amazing posts, glad there is alot of people out there with way more brain alert than I have lately. Thanks for all the good info. I feel like lately, all I have been doing is reading this stuff, lots to process through.
Lack of sunshine or something!
Ironlady, thanks for the granny porn too!
Well folks, I do think there is some reason for optimism. That does not mean we should be celebrating the end of a corrupt regime. The big guys in the Canadian media are not going to let thier buddies go down without one hell of a fight.
If only all of this information could go out to all Canadians without clever media spin. My big worry is that so many important people have been feeding at the trough that the kill and smear Steven campaign will win the day. Of course, I’m just a very old worrier. A special thanks to Kate and all the folks who are trying so very hard to get the truth out to us all.
Scott Reid Shits the Bed Again!!
CTV New’s flash “Robert Fife tells us about how the Liberals have leaked the big announcement for up to $3000 for students per year towards schooling, regardless of income. Fife had much more to say about the fact that they were paying $10,000 per day to get what could have been had by sitting at home and waiting for the Liberal leaks… very pissed off reporters”
Way to go Scott Reid, you just alienated the entire campaign press core… that’ll help.
That picture of the flat tire?
The plane that wouldn’t fly?
You say there is no God?
Ha!
Thanks, Bruce. I’ll be looking at these links.
And, Candace, I betcha Paulie’ll also lose his luggage…
More corruption from AdScam Income Trust Martin & the Liberal gang: Former Martin aide, Erik Bornman, aka “Spiderman” (break & enter charge) now is Crown witness in trial resuming in Vancouver. Organized crime, grow-ops, & more. Watch for this.>>>
The Hill Times, January 19th, 2004
NEWS STORY
By Paco Francoli
‘Cashless’ system answer to phony memberships: Cunningham
Bill Cunningham, president of the B.C. federal Liberal Party, says the only way to guard against phony memberships may be a “cashless” system where potential members pay to join the party by cheque or with their credit card.
“There are some people suggesting that taking cash for memberships is something that we shouldn’t do at all anymore. Those are the kinds of things we will be examining,” he told The Hill Times.
Mr. Cunningham, who plans to run for the Liberal nomination in Svend Robinson’s riding of Burnaby-Douglas, B.C., has been on the defensive since revelations of widespread irregularities in the way members have been signed up. These surfaced in the wake of an RCMP criminal investigation that has caught up several party volunteers with connections to Prime Minister Paul Martin’s leadership campaign.
The nation’s media have been fixated on the emerging scandal though the RCMP has said little beyond the fact that it is focused on organized crime but not directly linked to any politicians or political party. Still, there has been much speculation the RCMP is focused on the origins of money used to pay for the memberships of the swelling ranks of the federal Liberal B.C. wing.
In the space of just one year, the B.C. wing grew from an estimated 4,000 to over 40,000 members. While some of those members were signed up without their knowledge, others were embarrassingly made out on behalf of dogs. … more >>
http://www.hilltimes.com/html/index.php?display=story&full_path=/2004/january/19/francoli/&c=1
More here: Spiderman In A Web Of Intrigue:
http://thetyee.ca/News/2005/05/10/Spiderman/print.html
BC Bud and Paul Martin:
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=2976
Black is Income Trust: Duceppe compared Goodale to Gagliano? Gwan… to Alfonso Gagliano? Why, Mr. Black? Tell us why Duceppe made this statement. What does Duceppe know but has not revealed yet? Will Duceppe have more to say later? Perhaps, in the debates? >>>
Goodale defended
Don Black — CEO of Greystone Management, an investment company — told CTV Newsnet’s Countdown that he was furious over the effect of the controversy on Goodale, his friend of 20 years.
“The most outrageous thing in this whole campaign is (Bloc Quebecois Leader Gilles) Duceppe comparing Goodale to Gagliano,” he said.
Former Liberal cabinet minister Alfonso Gagliano was one of the principals in the sponsorship scandal.
“Mr. Goodale’s got more integrity and commitment to this country in his little finger than Mr. Duceppe, who is trying to tear this country apart, his entire being,” he said.
Black, whose company administers about $20 billion to $25 billion in assets, described the controversy as a “tempest in a teapot,” and expressed disappointment in the institutions managing the capital markets.
He noted that if there are unusual trading patterns, officials at the Toronto Stock Exchange “have the ability to shut down trading immediately.
“They have the ability, within 24 hours, to track trading right back to its source, interview people as to why they were trading. That was over a month ago, and yet we’ve seen nothing,” he said.
“We’ve seen the RCMP announce publicly they’re doing this investigation. I find that very interesting. I hope if they’re ever investigating me, that they announce that publicly, so I can cover my tracks.”
Black said Goodale met with him and other members of the Investment Dealers Association the morning of Nov. 23. Asked what he told them, Black said, “Absolutely nothing.”
On Countdown, Wasylycia-Leis said this wasn’t about Goodale’s integrity, “this is about a much bigger issue, where in fact it appears there may have been an illegal transfer of information on the income trust file from somewhere within the government.”
For that reason, it needs to be pursued, she said.
Conservative finance critic Monte Solberg described Black as a Liberal insider, so “I don’t think he’s the right guy to be defending Ralph Goodale on this.” >>> via bourque
http://www.rapp.org/url/?34KP81AW
ctv.ca
Is it just me or does anyone else get a headache trying to figure out just where our tax dollars went under Liberano$ rule?
The vultures are circling, the heart is barely beating, soon the beast will die, then the ugly birds will tear at the rotting flesh.
Hey Iron Lady sounds like you have first hand experience voyeuring granny porn. Maybe you can supply the web links so other conservatives can share your fantasies.
If I said “trust me I’m a Liberal” would you hand me your wallet?
Could someone please point out the 30% or so of Canadians who would hand over their wallet? I’d like to get my mother out of this line up and simply get health care in the States rather than empty Liberal promises of health care here.
The liberals are stumbling so much that they are stealing Harper’s platform. I think the media is slowly favoring Harper, just look at the scrums. The media is fighting each other to ask question’s. Reids announcement no more trust questions smells like rats running from hold of a sinking ship, the media has every right to keep canadians informed on this issue. Harper’s platform on safety in the streets, borders, harbours should make the undecided sit up & listen.
My question is who’s behind Stockhouse – apparently they want to protect a couple of people responsible for insider trading. Article’s on Telus so the link may die a quick death. http://www.mytelus.com/news/article.do?pageID=canada_home&articleID=2135623
StockHouse web portal pledges anonymity for income trust policy comments
Thu Jan 5, 11:01 AM ET
TORONTO (CP) – Stockgroup Information Systems Inc. said Thursday it will protect the anonymity of contributors to its online bulletin board while the RCMP investigate a possible leak of income trust policy.
The company noted that two postings on its StockHouse.ca BullBoards appeared on Nov. 23 saying that Finance Minister Ralph Goodale would “soon announce a reduction on dividend taxation to ‘even the playing field’ ” with income trusts.
Those postings appeared before Goodale announced after the close of financial markets that income trusts would remain free of corporate tax and that taxes on corporate dividends would be cut.
Stockgroup (TSXV:SWB), which describes the StockHouse.ca portal as Canada’s largest online community of active investors, said it has yet to be contacted by the RCMP.
However, Bruce Nunn, the company’s vice-president of marketing, stated: “Protecting the interests of the StockHouse BullBoards community is vitally important to our company. Both professional traders and non-professional investors frequent our BullBoards to candidly share their insights and opinions.
“They expect privacy and anonymity. Stockgroup will not release the identities of the persons that posted the BullBoards messages.”>>>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/cpress/20060105/ca_pr_on_na/income_trust_probe
via nealenews
I noticed that Mike Duffy has an 8-year old on his program who interviewed Stephen Harper. Why should I care what an 8-year old thinks. If I did, I would just ask Belinda!!
If you go to the “offending poster”s other posts , you will find out that he is a professional stock broker raising money for various companies.
sounds like this was announced at a meeting somewhere.especially since the words”level playing feild” appeared twice in different posts the same day.
Ralph Goodale —honest as the day is long.—was that said on Dec 21 ???