“It was like no one was in charge.”

An Epic Failure;

“Public safety and preservation of life are the primary duties of any peace officer,” said a former high ranking RCMP executive officer who asked for anonymity out of fear of retaliation by current and former law enforcement officials who are vigilant about any criticism of policing by those in the field. “As far as I can tell, the RCMP did nothing in Nova Scotia to save a life. They weren’t ready. It is embarrassing to me. The entire thing was an epic failure.”
 
Based upon interviews with other current and former police officers, witnesses, and law enforcement, and on emergency services transcripts, it seems clear that there was a collapse of the policing function on that weekend.

Nothing to hide: The federal and provincial governments’ decision not to hold a public inquiry into the worst mass killing in Canadian history is fuelling a growing backlash in Nova Scotia and accusations of a cover-up.

h/t Exurban

67 Replies to ““It was like no one was in charge.””

  1. To put it bluntly, Nova Scotia has always wanted Liberal, they have always voted Liberal. I have sympathy for people who experience buyer’s remorse.

  2. October 2020: Nova Scotia elects 100% Liberal MP’s after Trudeau promises them $5 and a Tim Horton’s coupon each.

    5 Saskatchewan farmers and a couple Alberta derrick hands armed with walkie talkies and pipe wrenches could have stopped this killer sooner than the canadian keystone cops.

  3. Our entire system of government has not only failed us, it is now actively working against the citizens. In Canada, there is no institution that is not corrupt, at any level of government, from top to bottom.

    Supreme court
    RCMP
    privy council
    PMO
    elections Canada

    You cannot even get a pothole fixed on your street, unless a union leader lives there.

    Every union, every office, every appointment is simply a tool of the Liberal party of canada.

    1. Great list Kevin, and I totally agree, but I would add the CPC, and NDP to it. 🙂

      The only way we will ever get rid of widespread government corruption is not by electing another group of criminals, but by vastly shrinking the size, influence and power of government. As long as they have so much control over our lives and money it will always attract evil parasites who want a share of our blood, sweat and tears.

      Government needs to get back to the basics of defending our borders, jailing criminals, and maybe fixing potholes. Completely get rid of the income tax and any other “progressive” taxation.

      1. Brunswick News(Irving Empire) owns all the newspapers and radio stations in New Brunswick.
        There are no resident TV stations.
        Your choice is CTV, CBC, Global.
        No choice.

        Postmedia owns all the newspapers in NS,NFLD and PEI.

        Governments, particularly Liberal, bureaucrats,institutions, business, all held to account with all the ferocity of those cute little white kittens on the tissue commercial.
        The Fix is always in in Canada.
        Proudly brought to you by yet another corrupt element of Canadian Society, that infamous purveyor of Fake News, the Canadian Media!

    2. 1000% agree but I think mighta missed this biggy Kevin.

      The entire (expletive Deleted), population of the Public Service, and EVERY Political party in this country – they are ALL tainted by woke Liberalism (Communism IMO), and REEK of that Eastern Laurentien stench.

      WEXIT.

      1. 1000% Bull Puckey!

        Where are all these strident Western Conservative comrades?
        Knitting?
        Better yet, where are all the brilliant Western Conservative Messiahs to lead you to this Conservative Nirvana?

        Hmmmmm, correct me if I’m wrong, but Scheer, Harper, Day, Manning, Kenny, all from the West; seems us Eastern Conservatives got sold a Western bill of Conservative goods.

        Given your seemingly fragile grasp of political reality, I’m somewhat reticent to mention, yet again, that you seem to have forgotten a few things, ie, Notley, Nenshi, Redford, Clark, Ralphie, Douglas, Lotusland, Redmonton etc,.etc,etc. Need I go on?

        So I ask again, does this fantastic bastion of Conservatism begin at Peace River and extend North or just exist in your liquor-aided imagination?

        I will of course retract if you can show me evidence of massive Western rejection of all that socialist Liberal filthy lucre.

        1. “I will of course retract if you can show me evidence of massive Western rejection of all that socialist Liberal filthy lucre.”

          2019 federal election

          Here’s a pretty good breakdown: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/election2019/results/

          And yep…lots of commies in Alberta and Saskatchewan, especially in the government. No surprise. Edmonton was the only non-CPC seat in Alberta…NDP. Not that I hold the CPC out as a bastion of conservative values, but at least it wasn’t a Liberal vote in Alberta or Saskatchewan as was the case in Ontario and Atlantic Canada.

          Cheers.

          1. I was actually referring to all the free money flowing from Ottawa these days.

            Haven’t heard of one Westerner refusing their Socialist/Liberal cheque.

        2. yolo

          This is so typical of conservatives…to savage one another. We’re not conservative enough… or we westerners sold you a bill of goods.

          Bullshit. WTF have you you done to put you in a position to rip us? Lets hear it? Were not perfect. We’ve made plenty of mistakes but if you feel your in a spot to tear us a new asshole, as they say – lets hear it. Who are your conservative thinkers and dooers? Which one of you has refused the filthy lucre?

          Dial it down yolo. We’re all in this thing together. None of us like any of this but to come on this blog and throw around accusations like you have, suggesting we’re all drunks….

          C’mon – you can do better than that – and if you can’t perhaps this is not the place for you.

    1. Chris: I bet they are too, THAT is something they are good at. Glorified wally-mart greeters.

  4. Maybe they will think again about voting for the party that thinks it’s better to pick who becomes a police officer by checking genitals and skin color than by checking qualifications, temperament and experience.

    1. The RCMP, among other institutions, is now merely a laboratory for social engineering based on identity, not a law enforcement agency. The left is currently seeing to it that any other agencies that stand in the way of their grand plan decay in the same way, and lose any respect by society. And we are doing nothing to stop them.

  5. Not only is there no one in charge, the only objective of those who were elected to be in charge Is to destabilize Canada and reinvent it.

    1. Incorrect – the only objective of those who were elected, is to perpetuate their place at the trough for all eternity. So they’ll bribe us with our own money, and borrow money in our name to bribe us more, and tell us anything we want to hear – they won’t actually do any of it, but they’ll tell us all about it, ad nauseam.

      Why not? – it works.

  6. CBC has assured me there was nothing sinister about Wortman picking up $475,000 in cash. He was just stocking up for the pandemic.

  7. Still no explanation why TWO officers fired into a firehall with citizens hiding inside.
    Perhaps they were complicit in the attack.

    1. They thought the shooter mimicking an RCMP officer was hiding out in the firehall.
      After reading the article it turns out it was an RCMP officer mimicking an RCMP officer from when remember what REAL cops were like.

  8. Remember folks, our betters have told us that only the police should have guns.

    Just dial 911.

  9. My RCMP buddy since the G20 has confirmed so many of the faults, arrogance and ignorance of the RCMP.

    Still remember the ETF sergeant telling me the security people at the G20 were told to stand down and let the Black Bloc vandalize downtown Toronto. They were to accept collateral damage. What about the business owners. Too bad, too sad.

  10. It would appear that in order to truly fix the problems the RCMP and indeed the entire sniveling service needs to be de-unionized. Second, the RCMP training needs to include six weeks at the Combat Arms School so they can learn the basics of cover-from-view, cover-from-fire, command-and-control, SMESC orders, how to establish a defensive perimeter, how to establish a cordon and how to conduct basic fire and maneuver drills.
    And we all know that none of this is going to happen, ergo: when seconds count the cops are only minutes away. And the one couple that protected themselves from the killer were armed — surprise, surprise!

    1. Militarizing the RCMP? LOL
      A bunch of obese women in tight uniforms and a bunch of turban wearing dudes rehearsing offensive ops?

      LOL

      1. It might have a much needed filtering effect by getting rid of the weak of body and soul. A guy can dream can’t he?

    2. As an onetime insider, I can assure that there is no more Stalinist an organization than the Public Service Alliance of Canada.

  11. I just had a thought: why not call for a public inquiry into Murdered and Missing Nova Scotians? The money will flow in the millions.

    1. The dead Nova Scotians had the wrong skin colour.

      But don’t worry.
      The recently announced “review” in Nova Scotia will definitely save lives. The lives of Liberal politicians and the lives of the highest RCMP ranks.

  12. The day it happened it looked like the RCMP was protecting one of their own. Then comes the rumour that he may actually have had an affiliation with the RCMP. Nothing less than a public inquiry should be tolerated. And I mean one that seeks the truth unlike the ones preordained to blame white people for Indian social dysfunction, underachievement, and criminality.

  13. Such failures as documented in the article always start at the top. Thanks for posting the links is hardly the right words to describe a truly shocking sickening read.

  14. Well of course, it’s much easier to blame lawful gun owners than admit they failed so badly!

  15. Why have we heard NOTHING about the investigation into this horrific bungle of the RCMP?
    The Media in this country cannot or will not give you any real news. A headline today – gone tomorrow. Never any “finish to the #story” or any substance. They are not reporters they are just readers……with terrible English and sentence structure, giant FAIL!

  16. I sent this letter to the Halifax Chronicle Herald a couple of days prior to the announcement of the “inquiry”. It would seem my initial thoughts have been realized. This is a huge disservice to all Canadians!
    “A half-column piece on the April mass killings was buried deep in Thursday morning’s Calgary SUN. The AP article stated that some 280 people walked from a grocery store to the Bible Hill RCMP station. That three months have passed since this horrific act with no real answers – or questions – from the RCMP or the federal or provincial government is an insult to the victims.
    My heart goes out to the families, friends and the broader community in their grief and attempts to deal with this. I can’t help but feel (someone) wants this all to just go away.”

  17. One has to wonder and come to your own conclusion then. The killer worked for the Mounties and they paid him half a million to go out and do the jobs expected. The killer went off the plan and started killing everyone he encountered and not on his list. The Mounties gave him free reign overnight and had no roadblocks that would impinge on his travel plans. Mounties discover their operation has gone rather badly and decides no one needs to know anything. Nothing to see here. Oh, and turn in your guns.

  18. Will the next federal gov’t demand an inquiry into this event?

    Or is this the end of the road for justice in N.S. ?

    *Possibly too many people have seen the Macleans Magazine article on this event to expect much from the RCMP. I don’t know who can step in and ask the questions that need to be asked. Scotland Yard dropped the ball last decade regarding that “cluster of rapes” in England, and the FBI has its hands full covering up their current mess.

    What a shitshow.

  19. L-The failure of prairie governments to live up to their constitutional responsibility of a provincial police force; which they would be responsible for to the citizenry. Something the federal gov’t. rejects as a matter of “principle”, nor is a policy with which her loyal Opposition Parties disagree.

    Ottawa and Nova Scotia gov’ts decide not to hold a Public Inquiry into the largest mass murder (shooting/arson) in it’s history. They refuse to answer to the citizenry for the incompetence of all levels of command structure, from Corporal on up to serve and protect. This rejects the very concept of responsible government, responsible to the citizenry from which both their pay and legitimacy originates!

    In effect, by the sin of omission, Alberta and Saskatchewan governments signal, they have no objection to the same happening in their provinces.

    The meaning of Brett Wilson’s the only viable future is either: Independence or Separation for Alberta and Saskatchewan. Failure to exercise option A is endorsement of option B, by default.

    Failure to accept the responsibilities of life into adulthood leads to a meaningless personal existence notes Prof. Jordan Peterson. Similar failure by elected representative gov’t. leads to a meaningless government. Citizenship itself becomes a meaningless concept.

    The antidote to irresponsible government is responsible government.

    Are we still a self-governing people?

    Is such a massacre acceptable to citizens as it is to the institutions of Fed./N.S. government ?
    Is such a cover-up acceptable to citizens ?

    If the provincial Wexit Party policy campaign for having a provincial* police force, first of a longer list of reforms. One of higher standards than Ottawa is capable/willing to deliver. Stating this being the only way to prevent a Nova Scotia style massacre and cover-up in rural Saskatchewan or Alberta.

    Then those for whom that massacre and political cover up is acceptable and for those it isn’t, will have a clear ballot choice.

    *(Current competent and conscientious RCMP patrol officers have indicated how attractive such an employer would be. Those officers restrained from trying to hunt down the mass murder and stop him will have life long angst to deal with. )
    **( RCMP Security/Commercial Crime/Organized Crime is overwhelmed and deliberately under-resourced/restricted from doing their duty. This another scandal, the Opposition parties
    won’t touch.)

  20. “As far as I can tell, the RCMP did nothing in Nova Scotia to save a life. ”

    Yes, but did they confiscate enough guns? Priorities people, priorities!

  21. What is that famous quote,as to how searching for evidence that will put you out of your comfortable job..is mighty hard?
    The mass murder has the stench of RCMP all over it.
    Well we will see,however I expect most Nova Scotians will be just fine with whatever lame ass explanations the cover up provides.
    Good Enough for Government.
    If we want a lawless nation with institutionalized Incompetence as our highest standard,why we need only stick with our Eastern Comrades.
    If you really demand better,you have choices.
    Convince your Eastern Comrades that these foundational values of civil society are important.
    Or
    Create an independent nation where these values are respected.

    We have wasted an awful lot of time attempting the first,how is that working out for you?

  22. There will not be a public inquiry for the same reason they killed Gabriel Wortman as soon as he had finished the job of murdering as many innocent people as his supply of ammo would allow.

    If allowed to live, Wortman would have sung like a canary, and exposed how mass shootings are periodically staged to make sure only Chinese intelligence agents and members of ethnic gangs allied with the Líbranos are allowed to pack heat.

    Do you really think the Líbranos want It known that they murdered 26 people just as an excuse to grab white people’s guns?

  23. 50 years of affirmative action in recruiting, training and promotion and this is what you get. Non functional public services.

  24. Err….actually, police have no legal obligation to save your life or protect you.
    Better remember that.

  25. People continue missing a point here.

    The purpose of the RCMP isn’t to protect you.

    The purpose of the RCMP is to make sure you are denied the means to protect yourself.

    They are perfectly happy to draw a chalk outline around your body.

    In NS the system worked exactly as designed. All victims were defenseless and the the mercy of the executioner. The rampage gave Trudeau an excuse to take people’s guns. RCMP is itching to do just that.

    Why would they want to fix anything here?

    Because white people died?

    Bitch please. As if their lives ever mattered.

  26. I haven’t heard anything from Peter McKay, who wants to be Canada’s next Prime Minister. Curious.

    1. I haven’t heard a single phrase – “vote of non-confidence” – from ANY CPC’er, including any of the leadership candidates.

      Funny, that.

      1. To have a vote of non-confidence requires a sitting of the House of Parliament. No such sitting will be allowed until October 2020, thanks to the NDP siding with the Liberals. What you have been seeing on TV the last few months is called the “Committee of the Whole.” It can only deal with subjects that the government wants to talk about, like COVID. Last week there actually was a rare and very brief House sitting, but only after all parties agreed that they would only pass one piece of legislation (something about aid for disabled people) and then immediately shut down again.

        The CPC had to agree to this, otherwise they would have been branded as enemies of disabled people by the Ottawa “media.” You have to pick your battles and which hill to die on. Anyone who forces an election in the time of COVID will be decimated.

  27. I note a suitable group of LPC troughers has been appointed to run the inquiry, which according to CBC, is expected to take at least a year. All at suitably entitled per diem rates, of course.

  28. “The RCMP has claimed it did its best … events …. strongly suggests that the police force made no attempt to save lives by confronting the gunman or stopping his spree at any point.”

    The two premises above, excerpted from the Halifax Examiner article, are not irreconcilable. That shambles was their best.

    There are still officers in the RCMP, and people applying to get into the force, who have the best intentions and try to do a good job, but as in many occupations (education, health service), the worst sort try to escape the hard work and stress of working at the “front line” by politicking their way into management.

    The anecdote of two officers who wanted to go do what they knew they should but stayed put when told ““If you go down there this will be your last shift in the RCMP” by “an unknown supervisor” should have made it their last shift, or his. The golden handcuffs of job security, pension, and group identity worked their magic. The RCMP is a corrupt and dissolute bureaucracy. Sam Steele is puking in his grave, not just over the Mounties, but what all of us have devolved to.

    1. From what I’ve read of Sam Steele, had he been alive and present for the event, he would have single-handedly wrapped it up within the hour — union rules be damned.

  29. From the Globe and Mail article linked: “… said Mary Coyle, who is among a group of more than 30 Canadian senators calling for a full, public inquiry into the massacre. … ‘We don’t need any more secrets around this, there’s already been enough erosion of public trust. … This is not the best we can do. It’s pretty clear the voices of the families of those victims have not been respected.’ ”

    She thinks secrecy is eroding the public trust? Wait ’til the public discovers the truth.

  30. “Public safety and preservation of life are the primary duties of any peace officer,”

    What a crock.

  31. The article mentions difficulty acquiring helicopter resources. The RCMP has had an Astar helicopter stationed at Moncton for years. It was used during the Moncton shootings. Is this no longer the case? Also, DFO/Coast Guard has a small fleet stationed at Shearwater. Both are minutes away from the locales involved and are federal resources. Why weren’t these aircraft deployed?

    One can only assume gross incompetence, or they really didn’t want to locate GW.

    1. It took several bureaucrats, RCMP “communications” staffers, and telecom technicians more than 13 hours to try and send out a public alert. That is, A TEXT MESSAGE. You think they could muster a helicopter? The RCMP brass didn’t even call out any local municipal police. Half the mounties called out for this didn’t even know the area road network. If they could have thought to find a helicopter, manage to get it out of maintenance and into the air, they wouldn’t have known where to send the damn thing.

      The sheer amount of incompetence leads one to believe that maybe it was all on purpose.

      1. The simple explanation is the most likely to be true. It’s a lot easier to let an organization decay into that level of actual incompetence than to organize a conspiracy complex enough to look like that and carry it through.

        Remember Mayerthorpe? Four Mounties caught flat-footed by someone they arguably should have been more wary of than Wortmann. They really aren’t very good.

        1. “they arguably should have been more wary of than Wortmann”

          Unless the James Roszko, whose property they were invading/occupying, was not the heinous fellow the police claimed to the media that he was after they murdered him.
          You know, just to get the public to accept that the shooting death of James Roszko was somehow more justified than the arrest of James Roszko.

  32. You have no Second Amendment in Canada so what are you planning to do about your tyrannical rulers, pelt them with your participation trophies?

  33. The RCMP aren’t the RCMP of the musical ride type us older people remember. They changed in the mid late 70’s from a friendly group that you could talk to and trust to what we have today. And, it was a Liberal Gov’t that started the decline with the introduction of the FAC card system. I had a friend in the late 70’s that I used to fish with who was also a staff Sergeant. He retired and told me that there was definitely a shift in the RCMP policy and not for the better that came in 1977, the year of the FAC. The RCMP became the back room protection crew for the Liberal gov’t that we see today. Pushing the Liberal vote grabbing policy of by assisting the ILLEGAL BORDER CROSSERS to enter Canada. Even carrying their luggage FFSake. How is this not illegal. It is definitely not ethical.
    If the RCMP Supt. doesn’t allow a public, thorough investigation into Canada’s biggest mass murder, she should be forced to resign. The work of policing the streets and country side should be removed from RCMP jurisdiction and given to Provincial Police. The RCMP obviously aren’t very good at it.

  34. “The RCMP obviously aren’t very good at it.”

    It’s all rude lesbians that bark louder than a mean Doberman I used to own. We owned a retail store and called the RCMP many times and had zero satisfaction. In every case but one the investigation ended when they walked out the door. In the one case, we knew who robbed us, but it took 2 weeks to arrest her with no recovery of goods. From experience, I rate them as absolute fools. They love handing out chickenshit tickets but hate real police work.

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