Wuhan Flu: Lung Disease Or Blood Disease?

Wuhan Flu 31 Comments

A new paper out in the Lancet is getting attention.

Early medical reaction:

This is a huge breakthrough in my opinion. Could explain the myriad of symptoms patients are presenting with, and why hypertension is the most prevalent comorbidity

This suggests #SARSCoV2 is directly attacking the vasculature, and is much more than a respiratory virus. #COVID19

SARS-CoV-2 is not like an ordinary respiratory virus, unfortunately it acts as a ‘deep tissue virus’. It’s bad news for active immunization expectations.

31 Replies to “Wuhan Flu: Lung Disease Or Blood Disease?”

    1. You would think eh John…..not sure about you, but when I suggest that on my feeds, Im told to STFu with “conspiracy theories” etc etc… YUP.

      Yet everything I’ve seen since the end of Jan, leads me to believe this is a BUILT…not Evolved.

      1. ‘Conspiracy’ is the new ‘racist’. Use it to shut down the conversation. Patty Hajdu used it to shut down a reporters question about China’s accuracy in their reporting their numbers.

        “Your question is feeding into conspiracy theories that many people have been perpetuating on the internet,” said Hajdu.

        Has she been asked since? Seems to have worked with our tail wagging media.

        1. “Conspiracy Theorist” … is the new “deplorable”. You know … like all you “Deep State conspiracy theorists” who believe our noble, beloved, FBI would DARE to “spy” on a Presidential candidate … and then POTUS … on the basis of a FRAUDULENT dossier fabricated by HER!? You’d have to be a crazy conspiracy theorist who believes in Alien abduction.

  2. It was made for sure. They made it in that lab in Wuhan. And the Canada connection is that lab in Winnipeg had Chinese employees smuggling pathogens out of it for the Wuhan lab. This wasn’t some software IP they were stealing this time. They stole some serious shit this time and didn’t know what they were doing and it got away from them over in Wuhan.

  4. Get over it, we are going to do nothing and the damn thing will still kill no more people than the seasonal flu. I know the numbers will be inflated because every damn government on the planet is lying about it. The US liberal democrats are particularly bad, the only thing they know how to do is lie, much like Canadian liberals. For all those who think it is a manufactured virus then that means it is biological warfare, WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? How about we just surrender and walk to the gulag.

      1. tim, I have posted this number many times now. in 2018 …. 3,177,204 people died world wide from the seasonal flu. we have to stop this experiment in people control before it really does kill us.

  5. It’s doing exactly what it was made to do. And when it doesn’t kill millions we’ll go back to sleep. The next one will.

      2. Nah. Tony Soprano asked how Chinese, who use chopsticks, could invent something you need a fork to eat?

  7. A study by Stanford researchers has uncovered some interesting facts.
    https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-antibody-testing-finds-bay-area-infections-85-times-higher-reported-researchers

    COVID-19 Antibody Seroprevalence in Santa Clara County, California
    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.14.20062463v1

    This could have implications with respect to re-starting the economy. If studies in other jurisdictions confirm that the number of people with COVID-19 antibodies is 50-85 times higher than health official’s numbers then “herd immunity” is already taking place.

    Could this mean that re-starting the economy can begin with a good chance of success?

      1. Good Link Robert…

        Very interesting.
        Demonstrating the difference of testing protocals:
        1 – those that are actively ill with the virus (1-2 per hundred dies)
        2 – those that have antibodies but are not sick now (1-2 per Thousand Die), or never were.

        Gleaning death numbers that are light years apart.

    2. The false positive error rate of the tests, along with the use of Facebook to solicit volunteers has that Stanford report getting slammed.

    3. Or it could be an embarrassing misread of their own data.

      One type of base rate fallacy is the false positive paradox, where false positive tests are more probable than true positive tests, occurring when the overall population has a low incidence of a condition and the incidence rate is lower than the false positive rate. The probability of a positive test result is determined not only by the accuracy of the test but by the characteristics of the sampled population.[2] When the incidence, the proportion of those who have a given condition, is lower than the test’s false positive rate, even tests that have a very low chance of giving a false positive in an individual case will give more false than true positives overall.[3]. – Wiki

      They reported a false positive rate based on running their tests against known negative samples of about 1.5%

  8. Climate Cultists love science . . . when it suits their narrative. The rest of the time, they patently ignore it.

  9. It’s a good thing ‘Medium’ took down an early discussion of this discovery. I am so proud of our information gate-keepers. They’re always on the ball. Keeping all the “bad thoughts” from infecting “the narrative”.

    Related … this is going to be the most “curated” election news cycle in the history of “journalism” – Kenji

    1. I was just thinking exactly the same thing. I seem to recall it was met with some skepticism here too.

    1. Yup, not that Trudope or Tam would advocate the HCQ/ZPAC/ZINC treatment, there’s still thousands more Canadians ye that must die, millions to financially destroy, and make them dependent on food banks and gubmint subsistence.
      How long will it take Moronto and it’s millenials to wake up to their destruction? TruDOPE is the airhead, the backroom gang are the evil ones.
      I only see propaganda, far and wide, using this overhyped crisis, for a yet to be defined outcome.
      New World Order anyone? Soros’ wetdreams come to fruition?

  12. Finally some one is publishing total deaths by country.

    https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/04/16/tracking-covid-19-excess-deaths-across-countries

    Couple problems:
    – they show an average of previous years as the base rate. Better would be to show the average as well as both a good and bad flu year.
    – the scarcity of data is appalling. Apparently very few countries have up to date total death figures

    But it is a start.

    What will be really interesting is if the total death number drops below the yearly average say in a couple of months time. This would suggfest that a majority of elderly deaths were hastened by the virus (i.e. they probably would have died anyway from their other ailments, but say 3 to 12 months later).

    Yes it doesn’t help decision making today, but it might help us better deal with a second wave which is likely to come this autumn.

  13. No need to wipe down food packaging during coronavirus pandemic, FDA says

    https://nypost.com/2020/04/17/no-need-to-wipe-down-food-packaging-during-coronavirus-pandemic-fda-says/amp/

    The problem with our COVID “experts” and politicians? They want to make evidenced based decisions. What is wrong with that? Well in today’s environment there is often a lack of evidence.

    I will remind readers that absence of evidence does not imply evidence of absence.

    In a statement posted to its website on Thursday, the FDA said: “We want to reassure consumers that there is currently no evidence of human or animal food or food packaging being associated with transmission of the coronavirus that causes COVID-19.”

    WTF? Because the FDA can find no cases of COVID transmission via touching food containers (absence of evidence), they imply that it cannot be transmitted by touching food containers. They might be right, they might not. It may be we haven’t collected enough data to properly answer the question. It is dangerous to say that there is evidence of absence (i.e. no transmission from food containers is proven).

    Transmission from food containers may be unlikely, but the consequence could be death for elderly and persons with pre-existing conditions. So what do I do? I wear disposable gloves while shopping. I wash my hands after bringing the bags into my house. I put away the groceries. I wash my hands again. When I put the groceries away they go to the back of the queue so they are not consumed for at least 5 to 7 days. For exceptions, meat, veggies, fruit, etc, I wash my hands after taking them out of their packaging. Excessive? Perhaps, but its cheap insurance.

  14. Not sure if it is related or not but there seems to be a higher incidents of covid in meat packing plants. Yes it could be the workers work close together or it could be that the virus thrives in blood.

  15. This is a very important article. Let me explain:

    From Wikipedia: “The Black Death, also known as the Pestilence and the Plague, was the most fatal pandemic recorded in human history, resulting in the deaths of up to 75-200 million people in Eurasia and North Africa, peaking in Europe from 1347 to 1351. Plague, the disease caused by the bacterium Yersinia pestis, is believed to have been the cause; Y. pestis infection can cause “septicaemic” and “pneumonic” plagues but most commonly results in bubonic plague.

    Basically the Black Death plague started out being transmitted from fleas to humans and caused a “septicaemic” plague… sores on the outside of one’s body resulting in deadly blood infections.

    At some point humans inhaled infected blood into their lungs, and the Black Death plague also became a “pneumonic” plague. It found a way of transmission from human to human.

    So, this Black Death Plague started out with an animal-to-human transmission path, and then it also found a human-to-human transmission path… thus making it even more deadly.

    The Black Plague found 2 ways to kill humans… “septicaemic” (blood) and pneumonic (lungs). Right now the COVID virus is believed to be only pneumonic (lungs).

    COVID-19 started out as bat to human and rapidly became a human to human virus. However this article points to evidence of CODIV also being a septicaemic (blood) disease, not just a “pneumonic” disease…. thus potentially much more deadly.

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