In the beginning, the accusation against him was that he was “Puppy Adjacent.”
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Puppy love?
Coat-tail Rider Vox Day? He’s a bit more than that, princess.
… comic book conventions are supposed to be fun …”
ONLY … if you are celebrating comic heroes (better yet heroines, or ambiguously gendered) … ovvvvvv culllller.
Puppy adjacent? Is that a K9 member if the FBI?
Yeah, whatever.
I used to be a fairly regular congoer for a decade and a half, and I quit going entirely in 2002. Fifteen years ago the self-destructive (and occasionally criminal) dysfunction of the average – yes, average, not isolated exceptions – congoer became too much for me to handle. Marion Zimmer Bradley was only the tip of the iceberg, and it’s a shame Harlan Ellison won’t allow Xenogenesis to be reprinted, as it’s the most candid and honest expose of the kind of people that go to cons ever written.
For a few bright years the modern con culture wasn’t too bad, run as it was by professional event management companies in service of profit for entertainment and media conglomerates[1]. But there’s something about cons that attracts overgrown children and the socially irredeemable, because they’re right back to where they used to be, albeit with a younger and more sex-balanced crowd (note to all the young ladies out there: cosplaying is not a career. Find a husband and settle down, because you sure as hell don’t have any job skills).
TL;DR: complaining that congoers are messed up is like complaining that water is wet or that fire burns. They’ve always been like that.
[1] Yes, that’s a “pray for an asteroid” situation
OK you wacky lingo speak Ringo fans, I’ll buy one of his books and see what’s up.
Thanks Phantom and Kate.
Posleen wars, Rich baby. You will not be sorry.
Yeah, whatever.
I used to be a fairly regular congoer for a decade and a half, and I quit going entirely in 2002. Fifteen years ago the self-destructive (and occasionally criminal) dysfunction of the average – yes, average, not isolated exceptions – congoer became too much for me to handle. Marion Zimmer Bradley was only the tip of the iceberg, and it’s a shame Harlan Ellison won’t allow Xenogenesis to be reprinted, as it’s the most candid and honest expose of the kind of people that go to cons ever written.
For a few bright years the modern con culture wasn’t too bad, run as it was by professional event management companies in service of profit for entertainment and media conglomerates[1]. But there’s something about cons that attracts overgrown children and the socially irredeemable, because they’re right back to where they used to be, albeit with a younger and more sex-balanced crowd (note to all the young ladies out there: cosplaying is not a career. Find a husband and settle down, because you sure as hell don’t have any job skills).
TL;DR: complaining that congoers are messed up is like complaining that water is wet or that fire burns. They’ve always been like that.
Puppy adjacent? Is that a K9 member if the FBI?
No, it’s stupid con slang. To be “(name of publisher) adjacent” meant that a specific SF publisher was boosting a con and would send its authors there en masse, advertise the con in its material, etc. The Sad Puppies was a protest group initiated by Larry Correia a few years back, designed to demonstrate that the people who gave out SF literary awards would literally shut the whole system down rather than allow an author of conservative or libertarian bent to win an award, even though the awards are voted on by fans. This pissed off All The Right People (as well as proving the point) and so to be “Puppy Adjacent” means that you were one of the conservative/libertarian authors boosted by the Sad Puppies group. And therefore persona non grata.
[1] Yes, that’s a “pray for an asteroid” situation
Actually, Daniel, “puppy adjacent” applies to authors who were not part of Sad Puppies at all, but merely spoke with approval of them, were friends with them, or in some cases failed to sufficiently denounce them. Recently the loud puppy kickers at Rocket Stack Rank blog were deemed Puppy Adjacent by some of the usual suspects.
They’re all fricking wack out there on the Lefty side, basically. Burning witches, a new one every week. This week it’s Ringo’s turn at the stake. Apparently he’s fireproof and laughing his @$$ off at them all. His next book with Larry Correia is out soon, I’m buying it in hardcover on release day.
Fair enough. I can’t really be arsed to keep up on that community any more. I greatly respect Correia as a person, but the whole Sad Puppies thing made me eyeroll. Of course WorldCon was going to cut off its nose to spite its face; what was he expecting?
I’ve never been to a WorldCon myself, but I’ve read Larry Correia’s books, and found them to be extremely fun. The Hugo Awards, by contrast, are every year awarded to books that are extremely NOT fun, and that’s sometimes a best-case scenario.
Correia set out to prove there was a reason for that, and that the reason was political bias. Turns out he was wrong, mostly the reason was pure spite and hatefulness, the politics were mostly an excuse for the hate. Two years later, they Lefties are actually hate-ier now than they were at the time.
What has been useful about the Sad Puppies campaigns 1-5, is that so many of these supposedly good, tolerant, loving Left-leaning authors and publishers are now on record for all to see as frothing hateful freaks. Larry turned the kitchen light on and took a snap shot. The roaches and rats were all out there, revealed.
The Internet is forever, and that is a sword that cuts both ways. Maybe they can see who’s a Conservative and kick us out of conventions, but we can see them, too.
Turns out he was wrong, mostly the reason was pure spite and hatefulness, the politics were mostly an excuse for the hate.
Well, yes. Like I said, none of this came as a surprise to any normal person who’s ever been to more than one con.
Jesus, you people think the Pizzagate thread is bad. SF cons have been pedo havens for decades.
more high quality evidence leftism is a death cult.
Puppy love?
Coat-tail Rider Vox Day? He’s a bit more than that, princess.
… comic book conventions are supposed to be fun …”
ONLY … if you are celebrating comic heroes (better yet heroines, or ambiguously gendered) … ovvvvvv culllller.
Puppy adjacent? Is that a K9 member if the FBI?
Yeah, whatever.
I used to be a fairly regular congoer for a decade and a half, and I quit going entirely in 2002. Fifteen years ago the self-destructive (and occasionally criminal) dysfunction of the average – yes, average, not isolated exceptions – congoer became too much for me to handle. Marion Zimmer Bradley was only the tip of the iceberg, and it’s a shame Harlan Ellison won’t allow Xenogenesis to be reprinted, as it’s the most candid and honest expose of the kind of people that go to cons ever written.
For a few bright years the modern con culture wasn’t too bad, run as it was by professional event management companies in service of profit for entertainment and media conglomerates[1]. But there’s something about cons that attracts overgrown children and the socially irredeemable, because they’re right back to where they used to be, albeit with a younger and more sex-balanced crowd (note to all the young ladies out there: cosplaying is not a career. Find a husband and settle down, because you sure as hell don’t have any job skills).
TL;DR: complaining that congoers are messed up is like complaining that water is wet or that fire burns. They’ve always been like that.
[1] Yes, that’s a “pray for an asteroid” situation
OK you wacky lingo speak Ringo fans, I’ll buy one of his books and see what’s up.
Thanks Phantom and Kate.
Posleen wars, Rich baby. You will not be sorry.
Yeah, whatever.
I used to be a fairly regular congoer for a decade and a half, and I quit going entirely in 2002. Fifteen years ago the self-destructive (and occasionally criminal) dysfunction of the average – yes, average, not isolated exceptions – congoer became too much for me to handle. Marion Zimmer Bradley was only the tip of the iceberg, and it’s a shame Harlan Ellison won’t allow Xenogenesis to be reprinted, as it’s the most candid and honest expose of the kind of people that go to cons ever written.
For a few bright years the modern con culture wasn’t too bad, run as it was by professional event management companies in service of profit for entertainment and media conglomerates[1]. But there’s something about cons that attracts overgrown children and the socially irredeemable, because they’re right back to where they used to be, albeit with a younger and more sex-balanced crowd (note to all the young ladies out there: cosplaying is not a career. Find a husband and settle down, because you sure as hell don’t have any job skills).
TL;DR: complaining that congoers are messed up is like complaining that water is wet or that fire burns. They’ve always been like that.
Puppy adjacent? Is that a K9 member if the FBI?
No, it’s stupid con slang. To be “(name of publisher) adjacent” meant that a specific SF publisher was boosting a con and would send its authors there en masse, advertise the con in its material, etc. The Sad Puppies was a protest group initiated by Larry Correia a few years back, designed to demonstrate that the people who gave out SF literary awards would literally shut the whole system down rather than allow an author of conservative or libertarian bent to win an award, even though the awards are voted on by fans. This pissed off All The Right People (as well as proving the point) and so to be “Puppy Adjacent” means that you were one of the conservative/libertarian authors boosted by the Sad Puppies group. And therefore persona non grata.
[1] Yes, that’s a “pray for an asteroid” situation
Actually, Daniel, “puppy adjacent” applies to authors who were not part of Sad Puppies at all, but merely spoke with approval of them, were friends with them, or in some cases failed to sufficiently denounce them. Recently the loud puppy kickers at Rocket Stack Rank blog were deemed Puppy Adjacent by some of the usual suspects.
They’re all fricking wack out there on the Lefty side, basically. Burning witches, a new one every week. This week it’s Ringo’s turn at the stake. Apparently he’s fireproof and laughing his @$$ off at them all. His next book with Larry Correia is out soon, I’m buying it in hardcover on release day.
Fair enough. I can’t really be arsed to keep up on that community any more. I greatly respect Correia as a person, but the whole Sad Puppies thing made me eyeroll. Of course WorldCon was going to cut off its nose to spite its face; what was he expecting?
I’ve never been to a WorldCon myself, but I’ve read Larry Correia’s books, and found them to be extremely fun. The Hugo Awards, by contrast, are every year awarded to books that are extremely NOT fun, and that’s sometimes a best-case scenario.
Correia set out to prove there was a reason for that, and that the reason was political bias. Turns out he was wrong, mostly the reason was pure spite and hatefulness, the politics were mostly an excuse for the hate. Two years later, they Lefties are actually hate-ier now than they were at the time.
What has been useful about the Sad Puppies campaigns 1-5, is that so many of these supposedly good, tolerant, loving Left-leaning authors and publishers are now on record for all to see as frothing hateful freaks. Larry turned the kitchen light on and took a snap shot. The roaches and rats were all out there, revealed.
The Internet is forever, and that is a sword that cuts both ways. Maybe they can see who’s a Conservative and kick us out of conventions, but we can see them, too.
Turns out he was wrong, mostly the reason was pure spite and hatefulness, the politics were mostly an excuse for the hate.
Well, yes. Like I said, none of this came as a surprise to any normal person who’s ever been to more than one con.
Jesus, you people think the Pizzagate thread is bad. SF cons have been pedo havens for decades.
more high quality evidence leftism is a death cult.
Thanks for the avalanche, Kate! Woohoo!