wrote Illinois University rampage killer, a social work major who also listed “peace” and “political violence” among his interests.
(Note that word “feel.”)
Ah yes, “social justice”: the forced application of unworkable solutions to imaginary problems.
So: answer as if you had to bet your life on it — did this guy vote Democrat or Republican?
Unpack to your hearts’ content in the comments.
If he had belonged to the Republicans on Campus club do you think the MSM would let us know? Perhaps I missed that segment on MSNBC.
What an irrational and ridiculous post, even by your standards.
Being of libertarian bent, I’ve always thought that either we have justice for the individual, or we have no justice at all.
Given this, where does that leave “social justice”? What the hell is it even supposed to mean?
Actually I believe the article said he was a grad student.
“”””Given this, where does that leave “social justice”? What the hell is it even supposed to mean?”””””
it’s a lieberal condition
just another way to deflect “responsibility” away from the individual and onto thee collective
…and nothing says “social justice” and “peace” like slaughtering numerous innocent and unarmed college students…
“social justice”: the forced application of unworkable solutions to imaginary problems.
That is a keeper – should be put on t-shirts.
So a wackjob socialist activist goes berserk and starts shooting… par for the course if you ask me…
“What an irrational and ridiculous post, even by your standards.”
Irrational being meant as “how dare you point out that it was a stupid leftard like me and not some White KKKhristian KKKonservative like I believed it was!”
I believe other leftards (daly, ringo) called on Kate to post something about this issue. Of course they were calling in race into the issue (as it was a “white guy”)
Well, the shooter is a leftard. Enjoy.
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hey, hey… I’ve got another one…
this guy says, “let’s get the religion out of politics”.
“I believe that most Ontarians, whether they profess religion
or follow no religion at all, would agree with me that the
Lord’s Prayer should be replaced, not by another prayer,
but with an inclusive and purposeful pledge-to-serve.”
Dr. Mohamed Elmasry, National President,
The Canadian Islamic Congress
sheesh… who needs comedy clubs?
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How the bloody hell someone can twist this tragedy into an indictment on the left is beyond me. I guess it helps if you’re of the mentality that the Holocaust can be used as a prank…God help you, McMillen.
Oops, it was Shaidle. Well, fivefeetofcrazy as author of this post makes a bit more sense.
Well, you leftards twist everything else into an indictment of the right, so what’s with the phony outrage?
Social justice, eh? How about allowing me to execute the scumbag who murdered my uncle. There would be some justice there, and I am a very social chap. Considering that the thug did less than 10 years for his first murder, and murdered my uncle upon release, I would think that he could be considered “anti-social”. No?
“Social Justice”. Right up there with “the cheque is in the mail”, and “I won’t ____ in yer mouth”
“How dare you twist the Oklahoma City bombing tragedy into an indictment of the Right?!?”
Oh wait…
Ringo,
Weren’t you the idiot who called for a post on the subject when you thought it was just some white guy?
Hypocrite.
John Daly:
“And I want to know why Kate has not provided a link to that horrible terrorist attack in the USA today. You know, the one committed by the white guy with the handguns and shotguns. No nanny state messing with his right to bear arms, eh? Yippee kay yay!!”
Ringo:
“Daly: you won’t hear Kate post anything on those shootings. Sorry. (Unless, of course, the guy was a Muslim. Then the SDA groupies will be calling to bring back internment camps, etc.)”
So turning a tragedy into an indictment of the right is f’ing peachy but not so much when the facts go the other way, eh?
This is why we mock you leftards.
“social justice”? What the hell is it even supposed to mean?”
rabbit at February 15, 2008 1:28 PM
Kathy’s definition in her post looks pretty good to me. Another one I have seen is:
“Placing the adjective “social” in front of any word changes its meaning to the exact opposite of what it originally meant.”
I smile inwardly whenever I encounter some do-gooder or activist group that claims a commitment to “social justice”.
Hey leftard. Last I heard, the Oklahoma bomber faced some severe “social justice”. The type of “social justice” that I would like to mete out to a few select scumbags. You make it sound like we think McVeigh is some kind of hero. He was an extremist who got was he deserved. Nice try, idiot moonbat.
what he deserved
Waiting to hear that his heroes were Che and Mao…
Reminds me of Jim Jones of the infamous “let’s all have a drink of kill-aid.” Jimmy boy there was one of the great leaders of the social justice movement.
I don’t know why you don’t hear the left speak about him much.
Thank you for the perfectly rational post, not at all ridiculous.
My, you do have an eye for irony.
For now on, I’m putting a wrist-rocket in my backpack to take to classes.
I put end tags on that ^^^.
Shooting people in a rage besides the narcissism involved is a pretty primative coping skill. You’ve got to wonder how much of this guy’s infantile emotional make-up got nourished indirectly, certainly not helped, by the lefty academics that are so pervasive in sociology. When you are part of an ideology that is feelings based and you aren’t wrapped that tight yourself it’s not helpful. It adds to the permissions to act badly. It retards developing critical thinking skills to keep harmful emotions in check.
In lots of college departments there aren’t any adults in charge, instead emotionally laden failure-to-mature lefties stoking the kids emotionally. Look no further than the Group of 88’s predatory behavior in the Duke case as an example of lefty academics egging on bad behavior in kids.
There are families grieving for loved ones, and young lives snuffed out. I’m afraid I don’t have much room for gloating over left/right on this.
That being said, I am curious about the phenomenon of suicides that take down innocents with them. Why not just pop yourself and be done with it? Where is the logic, or the emotional payoff in taking others with you?
Simplistic as it may seem, I cannot help but think the culture of entitlement, victimization and denial of personal responsibility manifests itself in these horrors. It is as if “I am not to blame for being a failure – it is your fault – so we’re both going to die”.
Blame anyone but yourself – it’s a consistent message from popular culture. If the perpetrator cannot be identified – make one up. The Illuminati, UFOs, repressed memories, past lives, Crusaders – who cares, just as long as the finger points outward.
Did the prophet Suzuki or the great Goracle speak at that school?
I know the glowtards are trying to get the message out to the youngin’s that the world will be ending soon, because of evil capitalism and… their parents.
Maybe he thought he was doing the other students a favour, saving them from the inevitable death caused by global warming. Maybe he thought it was his duty to thin out the population to save the planet for other more worthy glowtards, like the Goracle and prophet Suzuki.
…or maybe he was just nuts.
In my life I have met and known a few Social Work grads and even a couple with post grad and doctoral honours.
To a person they were disturbed to the point of obviously being in need of some kind of counselling themselves. My observation is that they were hoping to fix themselves by learning how to fix others.
It does not work…. at least for this type of character.
Sad but true!
NYT:
One of the London tube train bombers worked as a Social Worker – is there a developing pattern here?
‘Social justice’ is PC-speak for communism.
Good thing he was a Lefty. If he was a Right winger he’d have been able to hit the side of a barn. Might have known to use a rifle too.
And now to unload on a few idiots. You boys are begging for it, here it comes.
Bour3:”For now on, I’m putting a wrist-rocket in my backpack to take to classes.”
Yes, a slingshot is what a Lefty would bring to a gun fight. Just to enlighten you O Artistic One, you have no right to self defense in this country. If this happened in Toronto and you put the shooter down with a well throw textbook, there’s a good chance you’d find yourself charged. Nice, eh? Your tax dollars at work, kid. Laugh it up.
Johnnyringo: “How the bloody hell someone can twist this tragedy into an indictment on the left is beyond me.”
Well Johnny, there’s a whole industry of anti-gun media whores (DemocRats and Liberals) out there with faxes and talking points all primed to go whenever one of these shootings happens. Their effect is to make it possible for more shootings to happen by keeping gun control alive as a policy idea.
Term “gun free zone” ring a bell, Johnny? You wanna shoot down a bunch of people and get on TV, where you gonna go? Where you know nobody can shoot back, obviously.
This stuff is dirt simple. These shootings happen because there’s nobody there who can stop them. When that changes, these shootings will stop. Not before.
You can be part of the solution or keep perpetuating the problem along with all the other bleeding heart Liberal socialists you hang out with. Up to you, monkey boys.
Good point Phantom, if you are itching to kill people, people who can’t fight back, you go somewhere you know they don’t have guns. Same as robbing people, thieves tend to pick on elderly people, or women living alone. They would get a wicked surprise they ever met up with my granny. I don’t like guns, they make me nervous, but I am glad I know how to use one if I had to.
It’s tragic that the perpetrator knows full well that he will meet no armed resistance when he goes into the school.
In this respect, he is no different from any other criminal. If he knows that he can commit his deeds with no possibility of aggressive action being taken against him, it makes his decision a lot easier.
yes, all the liberal social justice people just love to feel. trouble is they don’t think.
“In this respect, he is no different from any other criminal. If he knows that he can commit his deeds with no possibility of aggressive action being taken against him, it makes his decision a lot easier.”
Yes, because clearly, he was afraid of dying. He was so afraid of getting shot to death that he shot himself to death.
Right on, Phantom, this always happens in schools, malls and churches, gun free zones. These losers never pick a police station nor a rodeo or Nascar event where there are gun racks on trucks in the parking lot. It doesn’t happen at major sporting events where there are armed cops either.
On a similar note, jihadi carbecues, now nightly in Denmark, would end real fast if neighbors fired a few warning shots out a window at those punks. But, then, you’ve got to have a gun to do that.
Yes, further irony to the story is that Northern’s campus is a ‘gun free zone’. Well…for law abiding citizens I guess, but not nutbars hellbent on destroying themselves and others.
Favourite quote of the week: ‘Blaming guns for killing people is like blaming pencils for spelling mistakes’
I happen to be a graduate of NIU – breaks my heart to see my alma mater splashed on CNN like Virginia Tech and Columbine. It’s a great university in a nice small farm town.
What makes it so odd is this guy drove all the way from U of I in Champaign (over 175 miles away thru cornfields) just to come back to DeKalb to kill people. Bizarre. He was obviously pretty motivated and I would think that if he couldn’t have gotten hold of the guns he would have found another way to inflict mass casualties.
It is weird how the left believe that people should be lining up to be victims of crime. If someone had a gun at that school, perhaps a couple of those students would still be alive.
“Guns kill people, like spoons made Rosie O’Donnell fat”
Halloooo Ringo.
Halloooo Daly.
Are you there?
Let’s pretend for a moment, gentle reader, that you’re a right wing conservative blogger named Kathy Shaidle. Don’t look at me like that, I said we’re just pretending.
You come across an online story in which the killer of several college students the previous day was reported as once making comment in which he claimed he was interested in “social justice.” He was also a sociology major.
Quiz time!
Do you: a) stop and ask yourself if, realistically, it makes an bit of sense to even remotely suggest his interest in “social justice,” or the fact he was a sociology major, has any connection with his crime, or, indeed, engage of any type of research to somehow quantify said bizzare claim; or b) post a link on SDA implying that any left wing, progressive minded person is capable, nay, likely, to commit such an atrocity, for nothing more than some sick and ever-so-subtle political statement?
I know which option I’d go with, gentle reader. Unfortunately – surprise, surprise – the blogger in question chose differently.
Warwick’s post at 2:16 pm seems to have stopped those 2 trolls in their tracks.
Well, one of them, at least…
Honey Pot, if somebody other than the shooter had been armed, chances ate they’d ALL be alive. Funny thing happens when you screw a gun into somebody’s ear, they usually stop what they are doing and stand really still. If they don’t you shoot ’em and -then- they stop. That’s why we like guns.
Honey Pot, the trouble with the Left in this regard is twofold. First and most important, socialists believe people only behave properly when somebody makes them. If there were no laws and cops, we would all kill each other.
Second, if people can’t resist it is easier to mold and shape them into the Utopian idea you want. Currently the Utopian ideal is humble peasants living ecologically sound lives with minimum impact on Mother Gaia.
Which is all wonderful and great, but you keep having these pesky unintended consequences. Like gun free zone equals shooting gallery.
That’s what irritates me about Lefties. Ten seconds of real thought would tell you that cops and laws can’t be what keeps people peaceful. For one thing, there’s never a cop around when you need one.
Kathy, The guy went on a rampage because he was severely mentally ill, not because he may or may not have been a liberal. Why did you post this?
I see Johnny is pretending the Left didn’t cause this problem in the first place. Hands over the ears everyone, and sing Kumbaya real loud until the bad men go away!
Kumbaya, you dork, kumbayaaaaa!
Trust the right wing losers like Shaidle and Phantom to turn this into a partisan issue. There are only two things worthy of consideration here: this person had mental problems and he had access to a gun.
Even though it seems that a recurring fantasy of right wingers is to wish for a return to the days of the “wild west”, where everyone is armed, the fact is that most of you people would piss your pants if a shooter came after you.
Carry on telling each other how tough you are…
I’m with Dante on this. The guy was mentally ill. This is a tragedy, in which 5 innocent victims lost their lives, in addition to the shooter. Many others were injured. We don’t know all of the details. They haven’t even had the funerals yet. Using a tragedy like this to score fake political points against the left is just sad, and makes anyone who does so look petty and ridiculous, at best.
“…the fact is that most of you people would piss your pants if a shooter came after you.”
Damn right I would. Because I live in CanaDUH, where only gangbangers and Mohawk Warriors are authorized to have guns.
Carry on telling yourself how progressive you are.