48 Replies to “Alberta electrical grid in peril for the third time in 24 hours”

  1. Instead of asking to lower power consumption why do they not mandate it?

    They made em all wear masks and social distance and close down businesses.

    1. I’m sure they will start doing that with those lovely smart meters that they can shut off, at will, remotely

      1. They could but they aren’t built to be continually shut off and on.
        The contactors are only good for a few cycles.
        It’s more for those that don’t pay their bill and are behind by a lot.
        But I guess in pinch they could shut em down.

  2. So Alberta only has to wait about a decade before it can supplement its electricity system with some nuclear power.

  3. Freezing in the dark,our future.
    Could this be a spark?
    Could the good citizens get a clue?
    Our helpers want us to freeze and starve..
    By their actions you may judge them.

  4. Those that control access to energy control everything between modern prosperity and pre-industrial squalor. The Spawn-Fuhrer and his ilk, through ignorance or depravity, are opting for the later and the voting urban Eloi think he’s wonderful.

    1. the voting urban Eloi think he’s wonderful

      The problem isn’t so much that he gets votes, 32% popular vote makes him the LEAST popular PM in Canadian history, the problem is that in this type of government any PM apparently has the power to destroy Canadian productivity and honest livelihoods and the system will not stop him. True as well in the UK, Germany, Netherlands, and Idiocracy Central, the USA. Abraham Simpson once told young Homer: “there’s a whole system of checks and balances in this country to ensure morons like you NEVER become president.” That system has failed utterly.

      1. The voting Eloi include the NDP and combined under the Spawn-Fuhrer’s illiberal party, are a majority Eloi nation. The Bloc votes against the interests of the ROC so reinforces the Eloi further.

        1. John Chittick:

          Brad at CAP (Cultural Action Party) thinks we’ll never see a Conservative government again. Your frequent reference to the Eloi — which I finally DDG’d — supports this view.

  5. Ontario and Quebec electrical grid fine. Them “conservatives” in AB sure know how to run things.

      1. Ontario’s coal plants could be shut down because of the restart of six of Ontario’s nuclear power reactors.

        1. Ontario’s coal plants could also be shut down because the manufacturing sector fled the province during the McGuinty-Wynne years. I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure peak hydro demand in Ontario these days is still well short of what it was 20 years ago. They used to run announcements begging residents to ease off their air conditioning in the summertime. That never happens anymore.

          1. No, it’s been growing rather strongly. Ontario gets about 150,000 immigrants per year (about half of Canada’s total intake). Each person on average consumes bout 6 MWh/year. This is more than enough to balance off against the industrial losses thanks to NAFTA and WTO. In a decade, that’s enough electrical demand to need at least two more nuclear reactors. Instead, Ontario shut down its coal plants and burnt a lot more gas. We can thank the braindead duo of McGuinty and Wynne for this abortion of an energy program.

            As a result, the refurbishing and life extension of Pickering B is now utterly essential. We already know that the German/Albertan plan of lots of bird-killers doesn’t work

          2. Ontario absolutely needs nukes. But don’t underestimate just how much excess capacity Ontario was left with because industry was chased away (which makes the money dumped into stupid wind and solar all the more insane). Check out the historical demand numbers here: https://www.ieso.ca/en/Power-Data/Demand-Overview/Historical-Demand
            Ontario hit a record peak demand of 27,005 MW on Aug. 1, 2006 … sixteen years ago.

            Total power consumed by Ontarians in 2021 was 133.8 TWh. That’s less than what it was in 1997 (138) and every year up to 2016. (It was 157 TWh in 2005.) And the population was 2-3 million less! That’s how bad Ontario’s manufacturing sector has been degraded.

            Oh, and they should have refurbished Nanticoke to keep in reserve.

    1. Well no wonder. Quebec has hydro as its baseload and primary power source. Ontario gets 60% of its power from nuclear. Our baseload was inexpensive coal (24/365), and that has been chopped by ~90% and disgustingly replaced with wind and solar and gas. Gas is great but when one source is ~90% of your supply, then prices will (are) skyrocket. Monopolies not good.

      Alberta has less dispatchable capacity today than 6 years ago so when unreliables are not producing there’s barely enough gas (and some hydro) to keep the lights on. Thus the Level 3 alerts today!! And that blame lies with both the NDP and conservatives because they don’t have the gonads and/or intelligence to stop this green suicide.

      We need to bring back coal or get 2 or 3 nuclear plants within 10 years. As if. The goddamn Net Zero weenies hate nuclear. Alberta’s grid is a disgrace brought about by Trudeau’s renewable push and Alberta not fighting back. Bah.

  6. This will be mild compared to an Alberta run by Rachel Notley if you folks are dumb enough to elect them next year.

    Do as Dr. Suzuki says: keep your house temperature at 15c, 12 at night, don’t cook unless absolutely necessary, baloney sandwiches are very healthy. Don’t drive,take public transit or walk, and yes bicycles can be used in Winter,even in -40 weather, though the tires may get a bit stiff.
    Freezing to death for a noble cause such as saving the planet guarantees martyrdom. Maybe even an unspecified number of virgins in the after life.

  7. How’s this for a knife edge? At 6:25, Alberta’s internal load is running right at record levels. It’s currently getting 608 megawatts from wind. of that, 203 megawatts is from Blackspring Ridge, near Lethbridge, where it is currently -29 C. The forecast is to go down to -36 C tonight. A further 237 megawatts are coming from Whitla 1 and 2, near Bow Island. But it’s already -33 there and is forecast to fall to -36. Wind turbines usually shut down at -30 C, so at any moment, these three wind power facilities could go offline, taking with them 440 megawatts.
    And at this very moment, Alberta only has 456 megawatts of dispatched contingency reserve available.

    1. forecast to go down to -40 here in the southern foothills tonight. if i have to, i’ve got turd jr and nurse ratchet notley campaign literature i can burn to keep me warm.

  8. I seem to recall so many Albertans on this site wanting to shut down fuel for the east, and cheering Gretchen Whitmer on to cut off the east from US fuel.
    Where is all your coal and oil now, eh, biatches? Karma’s a biatch, eh?
    Bwahahahaaaa!

    1. Line 5 carries Canadian product, not US. It’s owned by Enbridge, a Canadian company. And, yes, I still want it shut down, so that the bastards who voted for this shit can reap the rewards, good and GD hard.

      1. To paraphrase a well known now dead Albertan, let the western bastards freeze in the dark.

        Living the warm life in nuclear and hydro rich Ontario.

    2. The western edge of the province is full of coal. It’s bursting at the coal seams, so to speak. Even the Macdonald Hotel in Edmonton is sitting on old abandoned mine shafts. I knew someone who used to mine there. Watcher’s an old Albertan, he knows. The mines were all shut down after the easterners started to buy the cheaper West Virginian coal in the 50s. All’s fair in love and war I suppose. But when turdo the first wanted cheap oil so we could subsidize unprofitable and uncompetitive eastern industry, well, the shoe pinches on the other foot, doesn’t it, eastern creepos. This country was established as an empire to be run for the benefit of the toronto-montreal-ottawa axis of evil.

    1. Kate’s site eats messages all the time, for no reason. There are trigger words that have nothing to do with obscenity or web links. But, no one seems to know what those fcking words are, or what obscure logic/algorithm nukes comments randomly.

      1. S c r a t c h i n g is one. Found that out list night. Had 2 or 3 other posts sent to moderation in the last 24 hours, didn’t bother sussing out the offensive word.

  9. Who’s on the receiving end of these alerts? If they’re being tweeted out, there won’t be many folk getting the message to consume less electricity.

  10. my comment was one thousand bucks a MW-Hr was ridiculous.

    I remember the good ole days before the experts and consumer advocates got involved. They kept telling us $23 MW was way too high, and we should shut down a nuclear power plant with a 92% capacity factor. The plant got upgraded, added a couple hundred million dollars in capital costs, and a 20 yr license extension. They shut that “Carbon Neutral” power plant down anyway.

    Nuclear and coal are the only reliable baseload power plants.

  11. Don’t shut down the coal plants shut down the wind and solar farms that are screwing up the grid. Maybe when a few NDP babies have cold baths for a few weeks the reality of wokeness will hit them square in the face.

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